Thread 18421240

WTF? Did they actually turn Cena back face with no build?

netflix already exposed the business, why bother keep playing the character

>Rock left
>Travis Scott left

Might as well I guess since the heel run didn't make much sense and was just used for shock value than an actual new character

no build lmao
he literally showed repentance during the fight with r truth

Wow, I imagined it being worse than Austin's 2001 heel turn, but not this fucking grim.

>>18421240 (OP)
Lmao Triple H is a hack

it's actually insane how bad his heel run was if so

>Generational heel turn ruined because Dwayne couldn't show up to work
I don't even blame Travis, he was barley doing anything in the story and it is now clear that he was brought in for publicity. This is all on The Rock

>turned cena heel to get a cheap pop
fuck you paul

>>18421330
maybe blame the booker?

>>18421240 (OP)
Hulk Hogan

>>18421330
Maybe blame the guy who has had 8 months to write something good? Dumb pig.

>>18421330
Why does a heel John Cena need the Rock at all? Shouldn't the very idea be able to carry itself?

>>18421571
Can't criticise Papa now can we?

WWE IS FUCKING DOGSHIT LMAO AT ANYONE WHO WATCHES THIS SLOP

It’s fair to say there have been Summerslams with better builds. They know they can get away with literally anything at this point and still sell out two nights though. Literal definition of slop. Summerslop

Soul lovers.... what do we do now?

>>18421240 (OP)
They have to
Since Hogan died and was ignored by 99% of the fans, they can't use Austin (wife beater), Undertaker (cop supporter) so they need a 'face' that can do shit in retirement

That's the only reason Cena turned so early is that when he retires, he can be the 'legendary face' that does no wrong

i would also hate to retire as a heel after seeing the treatment hulk hogan had after his death.

>>18421330
>This is all on The Rock
Yes, Rock fucked everything up, sure.
But why couldn't Hunter write anything good to salvage it after all this time? Why couldn't Cena do it as a performer?
There's plenty of blame to go around and if anything Rock is less to blame than they are.

>>18421240 (OP)
I swear you are all fucking retarded marks. What you just saw was basically Austin on Monday Night Raw before the Invasion PPV. Cena isn't going to be a babyface. He's staying a heel. Listen to the announcers. Listen to how hard they're leaning into this. I thought you guys knew how this shit works?

>>18421330
Blaming this on Dwayne is a cop out. Even if he big leagued everyone you could have done a thousand things to make it interesting. Cena has been doing the most generic day one heel shit and it's so far beneath him that the whole time you felt that it was going to swerve into something else. Nope. It's all fixed now. I hate this semen slurping evil fucking company. Paul is a hack. Pritchard is a hack. A bunch of dimeless fucking shitters run the place now. The company used to be run by the greatest heel of all time and now it's run by the Janetty of the Kliq.

Best segment of the go home show, Cena has outdone himself again.

That's it, that's the whole fucking thing
>I DiDiT for the Rock
and also some nigger who shat on the main event

>>18422235
rovert is not only physically disabled but also mentally

I'm so happy I stopped watching after WM40.

>>18421330
You think Vince would let The Rock no showing the plans stop him from booking something? Anything? Cena and Triple Gay have no excuse as to why we got complete dogshit for the last 6 months.

the streets are saying that cody and roman are leaving earlier than expected to do street fighter so they need face john back now

>>18421330
Rock was clearly pissed they went with Cody and Roman at mania and didn't even bother wanting to give HHH more ratings so he dipped out to go star in another green screen movie for Chinese audiences

Cena's promo on Cody here was great and a good reason to turn heel
https://youtu.be/a__cXH1gxlc

But the run has fumbled since then

>this was rocks idea and he's not here >:(
>they JUST released a behind the scenes slop showing it was HHHs idea

When will he ever get the blame he deserves as a bad booker?

>>18421330
Why even get Travis Scott involved at all?

I feel like there's a swerve coming. This seems far too simple if Cena's just a good guy again, especially since we don't know exactly how Rock plays into this.

>>18422908
it is kinda obvious that the whole unreal tv show and triple nose appearing at the white house (even tho wwe swears they're apolitical) is just a vehicle for him to position himself as the 'dana white' of wwe, it's the whole "without me none of this runs!!" concept being thrown to tko shareholders

I'm not mad, I'm just disappointing.

>>18422941
>how Rock plays into this
Dude he is out of this. In classic Rock fashion he just came for 5 minutes and then left. Don't expect them to acknowledge him at all lol

>>18421258
You drones are the biggest cult I've seen. Holy shit.

Why does heel Cena need Dwayne?

>>18421401
He did

>>18422995
Idk man, there's people out there defending Tony putting the belt on hangman

>>18422927
He's a wrestlin fan, they were trying to find a way to debut him, and his song was the anthem for this year's Wrestlemania that they played for months into the ground

You're all getting worked, see you Sunday
A.W.

>>18422560
OK but Dwayne thinks he knows how to get superstars over, in hindsight he has track record as a bad manager. What is the point if all the Rock wants to do is raise their hand?

>>18423012
The sweet heat baby

>I'm a good guy now trust me!
>we're still doing a street fight with no dq tho
Its obvious he's gonna pull some shit

>>18421330
I'm widely considered as a wrestling scholar and this is exactly what went wrong
Dwayne inserted himself in the story, but had awful pullout game

>>18421330
how is it dwayne's fault the papa h is a shitty booker with an army of shitty writers behind him?

Swerve

>>18422954
we don't post our parent's evaluation of us here

>>18423185
cause Rock also has a shitty writer and made many of the suggestions of what to do day of Elimination

>>18423185
Who do think the next mark headed wrestler will be that will beg the Rock for a rub?

>>18423205
and? he suggested cody turns heel, everyone went against him, so he settled for cena. the heel turn was fine. the FOLOW UP, which is down to the booker and writer, was SHIT. it has zero to do with the rock, who i can't stand btw so i'm hardly a fan sticking up for him. i'm just calling it like it is.

if you need the rock to make the angle good and interesting, what's that say about everyone else involved?

>>18423383
Wwe being shit for years and only being good when rock shows up, proves that... Triple h is a genius and rock sucks. Flawless logic as you can tell

>>18421240 (OP)
'aid so

Cawdy turns heel tomorrow

>>18421240 (OP)
Cool

>>18421330
travis was brought in so he coud siphon a relevancy boost before he drops his new album, Ari Emmanuel is his direct agent

Ari brings travis in to get a rub from wwe not the other way around

>>18423383
Why can't he be like Paul heyman for a year and sell us as a manager

>>18421240 (OP)
Kek he made Austin's heel run look like early NWO Hogan

>>18423383
>>18423412
What's up dwayne

>>18421330
Rock wanted Cody turn not Cena. Why? He knew Cody will get boo'd the fuck out the building against Cena at WM41 and everyone fucking sick of him as babyface.

>jk guys I don't want to ruin wrestling anymore

You e-pigs actually consume this slop?

>>18421240 (OP)
kek WWE is for shoot retards

If you can't see Cody's heel turn coming a mile away then you are the biggest mark that ever marked

>>18423659
worked

i just watched the segment
you can say wrestling now on a WWE show?
is this a thing since Vince was booted?

>>18423659
I don't see it. Doesn't make any sense to turn cody heel after how much the cena heel turn failed. My advice to you, don't become a wwe writer. You are shoot retard.

>>18423659
/pw/ posters have the lowest IQ

>thinking they're actually doing a face vs. face street fight in the main event of a 2-night Summerslam
Stop and think for just a second.

>ooh cena is lying
>ooh cody is turning heel
>ooh I'm enjoying the show

y'all finna get ding-dong diddly worked

>>18421240 (OP)
Because HHH is a bald fraud. Randomly turned Cena into a heel and tarnished his entire retirement run.

>>18421753
You think Hogan's death personally affected his decision to turn face all of a sudden?

He probably had an existential crisis about his legacy when he thought about Hogan's last appearance.

>>18423012
Because Triple H wanted to make a Hollywood heel team with Cena as champ, Rock as support, and Scott as jester. But Rock left because WWE isnt a priority to him. Scott left because he have more fans to kill in his concerts. And you are just left with Cena and his lackluster heel run.

>>18423956
one of these things is false

Genuinely why couldn't they do a new NWO type style with Heel Cena

Remember when retards thought Seth's injury was a work and he'd cash in at summerslam

Rock either shows up at Summerslam to fuck Cody or cody turns and joins Rock which sets up Cena vs Rock for SNME on Dec as Cena’s last match

>>18424147
Nope, Cena stay as a heel and goes over Cody.

I want R Truth to interfere.

Ive only seen clips but that appears to be the case

>>18423659
why would they turn their #1 main eventer babyface heel
.

>>18421240 (OP)
he was never going to retire as a heel. the heel turn was always going to be temporary.

>>18423920
But a face vs face street fight Main event with a clean ending is best scenario.

>>18424157
Nobody cares about serious R-Truth.

>>18424256
He's not going back to comedy truth. You can have serious truth or you can have no truth at all.

>>18421296
Do you think wrestling fans will look back fondly on this heel run? I think it could happen if wrestling as a whole gets much worse

>>18424290
no

>>18421240 (OP)
He mentioned war I hope it’s a swerve and he’s still heel atleast until war games. I don’t think they’d use the word war otherwise

>>18423072
Not to mention another one of his songs is the theme for RAW on Netflix

>>18421240 (OP)
Its really Cena refusing to be a corporate champion and instead trying to "kill" wrestling or whatever his goal was.

It was right there.
>Cody refuses to be Rock's champion
>Cena attacks Cody in a "so to you think your better than me? The ultimate TKO/WWE company man" way
Like when Taker turned heel on JR
>Cena goes full Hollywood champion heel.
Its simple and it works and doesn't even need the Rock to show up but they clearly wanted to go for something deeper so Cena can flex his acting chops.

>>18421240 (OP)
Fire Triple faggot.Awful booking

Frankly, it's the right call.

>>18424744
so you're saying Vince must be back then.

>>18424714
Vince was 1000% right to never turn Cena. He doesn't work as a heel.

>>18421240 (OP)
It's the most obvious fucking swerve I've ever seen. Cena just came out and literally said exactly what Cody wanted him to say, you were right, I've changed my ways, now you get to fight the real Cena just like you wanted, all with the most insincere delivery he could muster. He's luring Cody into a trap by convincing him he's going to get a fair fight before he pulls some shit to fuck him over. This is not even a hot take, it's such an obvious "swerve" that I hate to even use the term, I assumed it was a plainly obvious part of the story and had no idea people had taken it literally until I read it here.

>>18421240 (OP)
It might be a ruse. He said he doesn't want to ruin wrestling that he loves it. He also said Cody has challenged him to a fight. Which means not a normal pro wrestling match. Maybe we might even see Travis Scott and Rock come back to help beat down on Cody? If not they might still keep him heel without them anyways.

Or it could be true and he did go face. Which is for the best anyways since this heel turn has been absolute garbage and there is nothing they can do to make the fans truly hate Cena. Just have him throw around the N word like he is Hogan. That is the only way Cena is going to get heat.

>>18423430
This right here. It only devalues the experience when you have someone there that doesn't respect it. His long walk to the ring shattered the kayfabe of the match & made Cody look like shit.

>>18424810
>there is nothing they can do to make the fans truly hate Cena
Make him wrestle matches instead of talking, that ought to do it

>>18422842
If this fag wanted in the main event so damn bad then why didn't he just book himself to win the Rumble like most were predicting would likely happen anyways? Instead he agrees that Cody should win and then be a little cuck bitch and hand Rock his spot at Mania? That is retarded and people rightfully bitched about it because its obvious corporate politics was at play.

>>18421240 (OP)
WWE is slopshit. Vince would never do a big angle like this without a payoff.

>>18421240 (OP)
>People thinking it's not another swerve
How many times you have to be taught this same lesson?

>>18424873
They had no idea what to do beyond Cena turning heel being a big moment.

>>18422927
I assume because he was sucking Rock's dick, or Rock was sucking his dick, or they was sucking each others dicks. Regardless it was Rock's fault. But now they're both gone. Thank Christ. We can have some good WWE for once. Until they both come back that is.

Cena is going to be a superhero on TV soon. Gotta make him a good guy again.

>>18424883
This. Cena cuts a 5 minute promo before SS how he's now a face and all the retarded marks of /pw/ just go along with it.

>>18421240 (OP)
I'm sure whatever plan they had for him and rock went kaput when rock's heart disease became apparent

Triple H lasted 6 months, he makes senile era Vince look like the greatest booker ever.

>>18421240 (OP)
It's a slow double turn. Cena turns face, Cody turns heel by lowblowing Cena, hitting him with the title and winning. It's all allowed under street fight rules, of course. After the match he beats Cena down, puts a chair around his throat and stomps it, Cena's coughing blood, gets stretchered out. This preserves the roughly 10 appearances Cena has left for the last two months of the year.
On RAW Cody comes out getting booed out of the building. That first "so what do you you guys wanna talk about" generates nuclear heat.

>>18422842
Uh, No? Rock and Gaytch clearly wanted Cody as the next top guy. The thing that pissed him off was Cena's farewell run, he wanted face Cena vs heel Cody while HHH want heel Cena vs face Cody which is equally retard, btw. It should be classic face Cena vs face Cody passing the torch feud.

>>18424912
>a superhero
>Peacemaker

>>18425035
>passing the torch

CODY RHODES IS 40 FUCKING YEARS OLD

>>18425076
He's DC's Deadpool. That makes him a superhero.

Do we really have retards in this thread that think Cena wanted to turn face against because... *checks notes*... Hogan got booed before he died and Cena doesn't want to get booed after he retires? Is this board full of children? Is there a single person that unironically believes Cena will get booed after he retires because he briefly played a heel character at the end of his career? You're more of a mark than 10 year old children.

>>18425087
I know but he will be at the top for 1-2 years before the younger generation ready. A reminder that Roman can no longer work at that spot anymore physically the dude is crumbling and it shows thus HHH has to crowned Cody as the new top guy.

>>18421240 (OP)
You would think a man as shit in the ring as Cena could turn heel easy.

>>18421330
What a load of shit. If a group of writers can't make JOHN CENA turning heel after 20 years interesting, that's on them.

>>18424919
Cena's going to go out there and cripple Cody's dog or something on that level of evil to retain. From heel to superheel.

should have just won the tag titles with randy and turned on him when they lost the belts to miz and mark henry

>>18425035
The torch doesn't need to be passed because Cody is already the top guy.

lazy face turns are so in right now.

>>18421330
You triggered him HARD with that TRVKE

>>18425006
>Cody turns heel by lowblowing Cena, hitting him with the title and winning
How would that be a heel turn

Cena said all his people left him. I think he joins Heyman and the brons help him beat Cody and that’s the new faction with Seth out

>>18425809
>Bron Cena
so bad it's probably going happen

>>18421835
>why couldn't Hunter write anything
Because as Dwayne himself.put it in the post-EC media scrum, Dwayne has his own creative team that he brings to the WWE and they clash with HHH's team.
The ship has two captains and they're fighting for control.
>but Unreal doesn't show this
Unreal is a work.

If you still watch american wrestling in 2025 you are lobotomized.

Everything in wwe is built for viral clips on twitter and tiktok, only retards still watch the show weekly.

I will admit right here in the middle of this board that this was the worst heel run in pro wrestling history and will probably be the worst ever experienced in our lifetime.

I will never go back on this statement

If it'd a swerve and Cena stays heel it's gonna be boring, I want an actual Cena heel run but triple h has shit the bed, make an new new world order you dumb fuck or even make a bullet diddly club with Cena and balor

>>18425006
>Another boring lowblow
But the first so what do you gays wanna kvetch about being booed is gonna be so good

>>18423659
Cody is a massive self mark and won't do it

>>18425101
>*checks notes*
Never call anyone else a retard again.

>>18425818
Basically, Dwayne want to kick Paul out and put his team in control instead, right? Quite frankly, it will probably make a better show than Paul and Shawn stuff, it's very clear at this point that they are fucking worse than senile Vince. The worst part, they now bring in Carder into creative team, lmao.

>>18421571
Yeah but you can't just add a major variable to a storyline and then ignore it. People are just going to be wondering week after week "where does the Rock fit into this?".

>>18422842
>>18425035
Rock wasn't pissed off at anything. He was simply called in for a movie and dropped wrestling again like the minor league passtime it is.

>>18421240 (OP)
You people are literally fucking marks. He will show that it was a trick by beating Cody dirty at Summerslam. This is obvious booking shit.

>>18425955
>>18425984

>>18426000
>Paulfags seething
Every fucking times.

>>18426006
Still mad?

>>18426014
Nope, it's just funny HHHfags actually exist.

>>18426028
Retarded kid was too young to ever be a real Cena fan

>>18426028
This little fucker had one job to play along with it and he didn't

>>18426028
Looks like he's Dunnheir

>>18425121
Based

>>18426032
How does someone that young even get into Cena? He's probably too young even for the And His Name is John Cena meme. It's gotta be a work right? Because people associated Cena with wrestling for children for so long.

>>18426028
>dumb retard exposes the business
never been more over

>>18425938
>self mark
The guy who was apart of Evolution? The guy who was a mid carder most of his career? The guy who was Stardust? He has more experience about getting over or garnering heat than almost all the wrestlers backstage of Summerslam.
You're mad that he's partly self aware?

>>18421330
>Generational heel turn
Lmao. This shit has been awful.

>>18425938
Hes said multiple times now he will turn heel when the crowd get sick of him

>>18426178
His parents you retard

>>18421240 (OP)
cena was right
you retards are so easy to manuipulate

>>18426028
>IT WAS NEVER REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!

>>18422927
Because generation z worships “urban culture” and they’re trying to get zoomers into rasslin.

Cena said on Smackdown that he was going to be the only “platinum” selling rapper at SummerSlam. Truth is going to interfere to protect Cena. thinking Cena has turned face after a beat down from Cody. Truth said on Cody’s podcast that the best way for Cody to turn heel would be attacking Truth. Cody is going to turn heel attacking truth for costing him the match.

Thoughts?

>>18421240 (OP)
You guys are getting worked by this?

>>18425809
>Cena joining a faction when he's got 10 dates left

>>18427763
If it was a work cody would look like a complete retard for trusting cena

>>18428007
>cody would look like a complete retard
wouldn't be the first time

>>18421240 (OP)
Obviously this is a swerve.

>>18428022
which makes it worse

Was just a big failure from the beginning.
He should've probably turned after the whole AJ styles feud. The crowd was fully on AJ's side and it was such a great feud between 2 guys who were coming from different highs. He should've been a heel years ago, and this "last run" should've been him being a heel but slowly returning to a face persona. Especially since he went part-time after the AJ feud.

>>18428133
Yeah. Who the fuck wants to boo a generational babyface after he announces that he's retiring?

>>18428133
>Cena's last year booking should have just been the "happy to be here" guy
Damn you're boring as fuck

>>18427840
Enough time for Cena to help get some guys over before Rollins comes back and cashes in on Cena which will turn Cena back face

>>18425809
This could be dimes. I hope he gives the faction a name so they aren't just Cena's Seth Riders.

>>18426024
What's funnier is your broken English and pretending Dwayne is anything other than a blowhard
Shawn Michaels is the best booker in the world btw

>>18421330
Rock is the only one who give us Kino at this point. Quit your bitching.

>>18428151
No, it should've been a heel cena coming in, wiping the floor with Cody and then being slowly realizing that "oh shit, this is the last time I'm here, I'm actually going to miss all of this".
Have him for the first month just go back to being super cena as a heel, bury the talent. Then you can drop little doubts, then you can have him turn face and the people will actually like it.
Don't have him turn heel from the get-go of his final year, that's fucking stupid, you'll only create smarky bullshit.

Why did this give metalfags an aneurism?

>>18429669
damn wrong board sorry goys

>>18429669
>dimes
>everyone pretends to hate it

Hulk Hogan of albums?

>>18421240 (OP)
how does anyone think that was a real turn? are wrestling fans that stupid?
Did we need Cena to literally wink into the camera to understand how phoney he was being? Btw the segment was still dogshit and meandering like every heel Cena segment. If Cody bought any of it for even a second then HHH is truly a dogshit booker turning his babyface into an idiot dweeb.

>>18421258
That's like someone from game of thrones winking at the camera because everyone knows dragons and magic aren't real.

>>18421330
Why would they need the Rock for a fucking heel turn? Did Hogan's heel turn fail because Larry Zybysko didn't return?

I'm old enough to remember when /pw/ called Cena's heel turn bigger than Hogan's. You retards are just that, retarded.

>>18431544
Finna be honest I don't remember anyone saying that

>>18431544
now post the follow up of the booking

>>18427734
Anything that involves Cody turning heel is fucking stupid. He is the face of the company.

>>18431067
If Hogan came out and fellated Larry Zbyszko in the middle of the ring and said "I'm turning heel for you, brother! I have no will of my own, and I will follow your every command!" then Larry Zbyszko never showed up again then yeah, I can see the potential problem.

>>18421240 (OP)
This should be a bait face turn, right? He didn't actually turn face, right? The whole explanation for him turning face is so fucking cheezy it must be a bait from heel Cena to pop up the marks.

>>18424778
How the fuck is a street fight a "fair" match?