Thread 18455425

How will she fare without Becky carrying her in a feud? She wasn't over with Becky so its going to be hard to imagine her getting any form of reaction without her.

>>18455425 (OP)
Piggo Sty lost her belt kek

>>18455438
Kek that’s true.

>>18455425 (OP)
She's over as fuck so the sky's the limit

>>18455479
>she's over as fuck
Lmao

>>18455479
Damn I can't believe fucking stopped being over

>>18455438
>>18455472
How many belts does Lyra have?

>>18455567
Same amount iyo has.

>>18455425 (OP)
She might be the ugliest womens wrestler I've ever seen.

>>18455425 (OP)
I hope she gets off of everyone's screens for a while and thinks long and hard about what she can do to drastically alter her presentation and get better matches
Literally the only thing she can do is wrestling moves, she had no psychology, no expression, can't sell, can't promo, can't pace a match, can't improvise. Bitch needs to take a few weeks to watch wrestling and then start again from the bottom while putting some people over if she can even do that, she was thrown into a spot she had no business being in. She did her best and it sucked.

I'm very afraid they're gonna try shoving her into the main event scene and that shit is gonna be brutal. If they do that and she stays on raw it will be particularly bad. There's a bit more leeway on smackdown because the top women over there kinda suck, but still, it's gonna be brutal, and deafening silence.
But what else can they do except sending her back to NXT. They don't make their pet projects job

Kek look at him seethe.

>>18455629
Sup tranny

>>18455623
Kek imagine Lyra trying to be on the same level as Steph, Rhea and Iyo. Absolutely laughable. Shes Zoey Stark except less talented and friends with one of the biggest backstage politicians of the generation.

>>18455479
She's not over
The WOOO from her walk-on, and only that, is over.

>>18455680
How did she even get the "wooo"? Is that some desperate attempt to give the crowd something to play along with and even then they do it to get themselves over if they even do it at all.

>>18455692
pat mcafee
glad he's gone

>>18455650
>imagine Lyra trying to be on the same level as Steph, Rhea and Iyo
Yeah....
I hope for everybody's sake they're not thinking of trying that. But even on smackdown, who can she work with, except lower/midcarders nobody wants to watch either. They can use her to put over the girls that are actually getting over but what would a win over Lyra bring them?

>>18455425 (OP)
becky tailored everything around their feud to try to get her over, and it didn't work. and that was a woman actively trying to help her protégé.
whoever she works with next is unlikely to hold her hand and desperately try to put her over like becky did. the only way it might happen is by pairing her with a wrestler that has go away heat like nia or charlotte.
many people think she'll be moved to smackdown. i can't see the crowd getting behind her vs any of the girls they might pair her with there. they'll cheer chelsea or tiffany over her. lyra vs giulia would achieve new levels of crowd silence never seen before.

>>18455650
Zoey Stark always had ZERO talent and always injured people on purpose, Sashit and Zelina Vega too.

>>18455765
>Zoey Stark always had ZERO talent
She seemed like she had some potential at one point but that might've just been Trish's work getting her over
Regardless yeah there's countless other women between the main roster and NXT could can and should easily take her place. No one's going to be excited about a Zoey Stark return

>>18455692
>How did she even get the "wooo"?
She didn't. No one ever actually does it kek

>>18455425 (OP)
>Put her in zip ties and have her get beat down in hopes of making her a sympathetic figure
>Crowd doesn't care at all
KWAB

She's not attractive, can't talk and is medicore in the ring. Why does she get so many posts about her on this board? Why does she have a general?

>>18455425 (OP)
Becky buried her. She would work as a midcard enhancement talent who isn't allowed to get near a mic, whose role it is to have good matches with actual stars then lose to them- basically the female Cesaro.

>>18455615
Zelina Vega is uglier, as is Zoey Starkes

>>18455836
>Becky buried her
No one single person, including Lyra herself, has done more to try and get Lyra over than Becky Lynch. She turned herself heel just to step in and do it herself after just being her friend and giving her the rub that way wasn't doing the job. Becky has created moment after moment where Lyra could've shined if she wasn't so shit and wasn't so rejected by the crowd

>>18455623
Get ready for a two month feud with Bayley and 20 minute Lyra promos and matches every week.

>>18455731
>has go away heat like nia or charlotte.

Charlotte is a beloved babyface who gets massive pops ever since she started her odd couple tag team with Alexa Bliss

>>18455860
Lyra isnt coming back, after this humiliation ritual, she is taking a break.
Maybe return as she was originally was, full in black as as a Heel, since being a face was becky's retarded idea.

>>18455425 (OP)
they really fucked up this match. they had the perfect way to resolve the zip tie thing with the toolbox, just have her grab wire cutters and it makes perfect sense, the heel being her undoing since she was the one that introduced the toolbox. also actually wiretie her hands. also dont have her do moonsaults and shit with her hands tied, no one is ever impressed by that and its dumb and takes away from whats supposed to be the heat

>>18455859
Lyra forced to put the belt on Becky, give the Becky stompers promo and making Lyra lose in the lesbian bdsm ryona match last night buried Lyra hard. I don't see how she can come back from this. I think even Lyra knows she's done.

>>18455890
Who booked the entire match was Becky and her "creative control"
Blame her for this, but again no one will do because she is a fucking saint for no reason.

Now we are getting 2 months of zero pops over her vs bailey with no lyra in sight, til hunter has it enough and sends Naomi to screwjob her and get the IC belt to put on Vaquer, which is bound to happen.

>>18455897
The entire match was a humiliation ritual towards Lyra and Bailey, backstage after Tiffany and the Triple Threat mood was obviously grim, Becky sucked the goodwill of the division in one match while burying 2 wrestlers at once to stay on top.

>>18455922
Does Becky actually have creative control now? Is this speculated on or confirmed?

>>18456097
She is now one of the bookers at RAW and it is obvious since she returned how every match has a been played in her favor

>>18455897
>I don't see how she can come back from this. I think even Lyra knows she's done.
The fact that this wasn't even a world title story and feud makes it even worse. Because it's not like they can just drop her down to the midcard. She's already in the midcard. And now she can't even challenge for that. God willing she wouldn't get moved up but seeing as Naomi is a heel champion who knows. She has no business being pushed up the card after that match and the entire past few months though

>>18456118
Holy shit that's grim.

>>18456133
they will probably move her to smackdown and have her challenge giulia. there main event on both shows is completely stacked and there’s no way they can put her in either of them.

>>18456171
I hope they have the good sense to not do that lol
poor Giulia, she doesn't deserve such shitty erratic booking and she's still slowly managing to get through despite that, the last thing she needs is a feud with Lyra

>>18456209
Lyra isn't going nowhere, but she was a victim of >>18456118 on which is quite obvious.
If she is smart she is asking Haitch to keep her off after all of this and do dark matches and house shows off screen for a while, and let Becky's reign of terror continue til Naomi humbles her and gets the belt.

>>18456209
A feud with Lyra now would end Giulia's hope at having a successful WWE career

>>18456276
Lyra/Bayley will dominate the next months of RAW, with Becky inadvertently burying them both with her terrible booking while claiming she's doing her best to get them over.

>>18456436
honestly would piss me off because imo one of the main reasons Giulia's arrival on the main roster was botched so badly is that there was no screentime to explain who she is and why she's a heel because of the neverending lyraverse.
What a mess. They spent months wasting all the women segments screentime on this soulless Lyra bullshit when they could have done something completely different by focusing on Giulia or Vaquer and trying new things narratively to get foreigners with great backstories over.
BUT I think Giulia could actually make it work if she clearly goes over in the feud.
Lyra would be buried but she already is and if they ever want her to get over she needs to go to the bottom of the card and work her way up anyway

>>18456604
Giulia would have to completely destroy Lyra to the point where the crowd starts feeling bad for Lyra and booing Giulia for going too far- but even then the crowd would probably just cheer Giulia on as she beats Lyra down.

>>18456447
After this, i hope Lyra went straight to Paul and tell him that she wants time off to work on house and dark matches.
it was obvious that Becky's retarded booking and creative control hurt her

Seriously though, where does she go from here? The women's division is stacked and I don't see her getting moved up the card after failing to get over in a 3 month blood feud with Becky. Her not winning the belt back is a bad omen. Do you move her to NXT or TNA to work on a new persona? Feuding with Bayley isn't really a good thing.

>>18456930
She will be moved to the main event after winning her 3 month long no-dimes feud with Bayley.

In my fantasy booking I'd give Lyra 2 months off TV then bring her back for October as a heel who wears black like a crow and leans in to her Morrigan/Irish witch gimmick. If they want to still push her have her start destroying every top baby face backstage using underhanded and cheating methods. She can't talk or act so they'd have to give her a good manager as a mouth piece to pull it off. Atleast let her use her Morrigan worshiper gimmick is what im suggesting. She can't work as a face, maybe being a cunt heel could save her.

>>18456973
if she goes into it with her current mindset it will feel even faker and more forced than what she's doing now
A few months off and getting her in a tag team with a heel and a manager could help her get somewhere, she can do the moves in the ring and learn to sell, while the other two generate the heat

>>18456973
oh yeah and involving her with top babyfaces is literally the worst thing to do

>>18455425 (OP)
Looks like a dude

>>18455885
So like Flair, teaming with Alexa is the only way Lyra could get over

>>18457109
Probably. People here hate Alexa but she understands psychology and knows how to get people over. She's like the antithesis of Becko

>>18457255
Alexa works perfectly with Flair because she can be the manic pixie dream girl to Charles' cold, aloof, arrogant demeanor, it's basically a romcom except they're both girls so it's hot too
I don't think all the yuri fanfic in the world could get Lyra over

>>18457284
Becky's BDSM lezdom match basically was a tumblr fanfic but Lyra fucked it all up. Turning her in to a comedy gimmick clown and making her the butt of every joke would eventually get her over. First the audience would laugh at her, eventually they'd feel sympathy for her, then they'd start to cheer her as the plucky underdog. Basically give her the Dirty Dom booking. He was universally hated and now gets pops like a Rockstar god and tiktok thots see him as a sex symbol and gush for him like a Kpop idol.

>>18457377
She isn't as long as Becky Jarett is the booker with creative freedom at RAW.

>>18457377
lol yeah that's how it works on paper but Dom has the confidence and personality to pull it off
Lyra though... humiliation rituals work on heels and guys who can ultimately laugh it off
But the crowd already kinda pities her, that's why she doesn't get strong pushback, any dude in her position would have been boo'ed out of the building long ago
she would need to show off something to turn that pity into actual sympathy and I just don't see it

>>18457377
this is actually how maxxine went from booed out of the building to giga over in not even a year kek

>>18457689
Yeh it's possible it could work, it would be easier if Lyra was hot instead of mid though.

>>18457468
I thought Naomi was incapable of giving good promos or character work, yet here we are. If Naomi can become decent, even Lyra Velcro might be capable. I thought Roman Reigns had no talent and would never get over during his Sufferin Sucotash Son face days, yet here we are, they let him be his own character and now he's cool and capable of great promos. I don't think Lyra has talent but seeing Roman Reigns and Dom get over taught me anything is possible and also that I'm not a good judge at seeing a wrestler's true potential

>>18457730
The problem with Lyra is literally being tied with fucking Becky.
And Becky used her like a used condom alongside her new position at RAW to get the IC belt.
This is as evil as Misawa being perma champion and using his power to do so.

>>18457759
Why does Becko pretend she was elevating Lyra when actually she was burying her? Lyra was Becko's competition as a younger Irish wrestler lass who can't promo, so Big Match Bex sabotaged her and prevented Lyra from ever getting over again. Is the rest of creative afraid to tell Becko no? How is she so good at politicking backstage when she's as fucking stupid as she is?

>>18457795
Becky has an ego like Punk. She thinks someone being in a program with her will elevate them regardless of the outcome. But Becky ain't Punk so it doesn't work at all

>>18457795
Because she is married to Seth Rollins, and Seth is Trip's crossdressing golden boy and he gets what he pleases.
This much backstage power in the hands of someone like her always backfires badly for those involved.
Just look at WCW Under Flair+Nash as bookers, HHH's Reign of Terror where steph was booking to satisfy Trips and burying a ton of people in process, and TNA's Reign of Terror where JJ did the same.

>>18457810
Exactly and both CP Phil and Becky are also insecure shitstains who gets envy when someone is getting more props with the crowd than them.
The difference is that CP Phil was humbled by UFC and Trips when he came back crawling to WWE after what he did at AEW, and Becky never got her ass kicked hard into a shoot from Ronda, which people would side with Rousey for once for that just to humble her, but unfortunately this opportunity is long gone since WWE will never put her into a shoot thanks to Seth's Backstage influence.

>Lyra threads are all discussion about how she's terrible
>anti threads for Iyo are just the same guy replying "kek", "jej", "[insert name]cord is seething"

>>18458340
funny thing is, Lyra threads when she's not getting dogpiled for being absolutely terrible are just the same guy replying "kek", "jej", "[insert name]cord is seething"

>>18455479
>t.

>>18455860
>and 20 minute Lyra promos every week.
This would be the funniest thing. I'm all for it

Shes uglier than bayley.

No. Sliding.

>>18459464
Can't argue with that.

>>18455680
The first woos are canned

>>18455425 (OP)
Shes already been dropped. The experiment has failed.

>>18462548
Agreed and good riddance. Now they should try the Maxxine experiment

>>18455680
That isn't over either.

>5:30 AM in New Jersey
Looks like Schlomo is up till 5 in the morning crying again. YouTube analytics for last month must have been really bad.

>>18455425 (OP)
So trash Lyra is.

>>18464948
Kek this.

>>18455425 (OP)
FUGLY

>>18455425 (OP)
Damn this nigga ugly

>>18455425 (OP)
Lmao

Shes been replaced by a Bella twin and immediately Becky is way more over.

>>18467614
Really?

>>18455425 (OP)
Not well

>>18455425 (OP)
Not sure he liked this one.

>>18455425 (OP)
She needs to get slimed.

>>18468023
Becky sucks solo, and she booked Nikki and the other former divas against her now, Nia being a NXT is probably to stay away from Lynch's retarded booking that also cost Iyo of her belt defenses as her feud with Rhea earlier on.
Literal Triple H reign of terror on RAW's women's division and in part Smackdown thanks to Becky Gilmore.

>>18458340
Iyo is terrible too you know.

>>18455479
kek

>>18455680
the woos are canned in

>>18470731
>the woos are canned in
'fraid so

no fucking sliding

>>18455425 (OP)
She's turning heel and joining Becky soon

>>18455623
I am genuinely convinced that she really was a Becky nepo push baby. I joked about it, but why else is she getting so much screen time when she doesn't connect with the crowd and doesn't do anything worth watching. She just comes down, does her match and then leaves. She doesn't make any effort to connect with the audience. She's just "Create-a-Diva" in walking form.

I feel like she knew she wasn't getting fucking over and wanted to relate closer to Becky that she asked Lynch to pull strings and make her "Lyra Two Belts" just so she could brag about how she's like her mentor (which i think they even referenced in mania) and then called becky asking she took time away from her own daughter to put her over.

Probably just schizo shit coming from me, but the way these fuckers think, I wouldn't be surprised.

>>18455832
Because it's lyra trying to put herself over

>>18455425 (OP)
idk

Grim

>>18455425 (OP)
You can give almost any woman in NXT her spot and it would be an improvement.

>>18474930
She is a very pretty lady

>>18455694
It's twat mcafee actually gone for good? Please tell me it's not just him covering football for a while and he's actually fucked off forever

>>18474944
he said the gunther match was too overwhelming and he has to take a break, something ridiculous like that
unfortunately i'm sure he'll be back eventually

>>18475058
Well, hopefully it's a long time.

>>18455425 (OP)
Trash ass wrestler.

>>18455425 (OP)
She might be the worst wrestler WWE has pushed this hard on the women's side of things. Even Jade could get a reaction

>>18476340
Many said this.

>>18455425 (OP)
Shes just a side character in Beckys story.