Thread 18510572

Based Dave : "WWE's emphasis on moments and surprises over long term storytelling is not sustainable"

>>18510572 (OP)
wasn't that the main criticism of aew

>>18510572 (OP)
WWE has always had stars return after the main events of PPVs. Dave is being disingenuous because he wants to manifest the failure of WWE into reality. Unfortunately, they're still playing to packed houses while AEW is doing residencies in Mexican restaurants.

>>18510572 (OP)
But enough about AEW

He's right. They book for tiktok/insta and it's fucking garbage.

>>18510613
What specifically from SummerSlam was specifically for tiktok/insta and would not have happened otherwise?

>>18510621
Jelly Roll

>>18510666
what was the main event of wrestlemania 1

>>18510674
Idk but it wasn't Travis Scott

>>18510666
It's true, celebrities were never a part of wrestling until TikTok

>>18510677
When did this air on WWE television
>>18510674
>comparing one of the biggest stars in America at the time who actually had history with Hogan to some fat cunt nobody has ever heard of

>>18510572 (OP)
Reminder that this nigga missed the Cena heel turn moment because he was sucking off Tony backstage in Oakland at a show that drew 2000 people

nothing to back up the claim that its not sustainable
not liking it isn't enough

That's a fucking retarded take. Everything in WWE has always been hype moments and aura.

>>18510728
Do you realize what a giant fucking mark this makes you sound like?

>>18510584
AEW has moments?

What is he even bitching about? There's not a single wrestling promotion that does long term storytelling and no, Tony Khan forgetting feuds and finishing them a year later is not long term storytelling.

>>18510725
Who are you quoting?

>>18510728
Oh no he missed a moment that 4 months later nobody everybody is calling the fumble of the millennium. You know maybe if Paul could book they'd have had something substantial, but instead it's just another 'moment'

>>18510804
Swerve and Hangman and Toni and Mariah not count huh?

>>18510572 (OP)
>WWE has existed for over 40 years
>not sustainable
LMAO. Dave is absolutely shitting himself about WWE's white hot success while AEW slides into oblivion. And it's hilarious for him to say this about WWE when AEW, the company he shills for, has no long term storytelling to speak of.

>>18510831
Toni/Mariah is a legit example but Swerve/Hangman sucked and was the start and stop bullshit that Tony does.

>>18510572 (OP)
>hogan/andre no stars
>flippy midget one/flippy midget heatless collision match 5 stars

magoo has no fucking idea what people want to see

>>18510572 (OP)
>WWE needs long term storytelling!
ok here you go mft vs bloodline
>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT

>>18510821
Everybody who witnessed Cena's heel turn is going to remember it for the rest of their lives. Nobody remembers what happened in AEW last week. There are levels to this.

>>18510831
Tony thinks long term storytelling is "these people briefly have a forgettable feud, then it gets dropped for months, then they have another brief forgettable feud, then it gets dropped again" or "oh my god! this guy did a pose that's a visual callback to something!".

Dave is right. How many of these moments are going to be remembered and looked back on fondly like Austin and Tyson for example. In ten years do you think people are going to remember Cena's heel turn? It led to nothing but garbage as was dropped in less than 4 momths. Do you think Jelly Roll or Bad Bunny are going to be relevant in 5-10 years?
>REMEMBER WHEN JELLY ROLL WRESTLED AT SUMMERSLAM?
Bruh who tf is Jelly Roll?
>HE'S THIS FAT DUDE WHO HAD A FEW FAIRLY POPULAR SONGS IN 2020!
OK? And he wrestled at Summerslam?
>Yeah!
Was it good?
>Yeah dude it was totally epic awesome sauce! It totally brought eyes to the product and in no way was it embarrassing to see a 6'5 monster veteran of 20 years sell for a guy with zero athletic ability who is made up of cheeseburgers!

>>18510998
>In ten years do you think people are going to remember Cena's heel turn?

yes

So CM Punk and Seth Rollins working this angle seemingly before Punk ever returned to WWE is bad for WWE? Pivoting away from the Cena heel turn by moving towards Brock, finally ending their years long engagement... It's a bad thing??

>>18510998
i swear you retards don't even watch what you go on rants about. jelly roll was 100% presented as out of his depth and only got offense as a fluke and by surprise. and jelly roll took the fucking pin kek

>>18510998
Hulk Hogan was selling for Jey Leno at the peak of WCW's popularity, now sit down.

>>18511009
>Oh yeah I remember!... man that turned out to be a complete waste of time and one of the worst things they've ever done
But yeah cool they'll remember it I guess

>>18511034
i think you have the bad kind of autism

>>18511014
Yeah and everyone knew that was fucking stupid. Christ you pigs can't admit anything is shit can you? Are you worried Paul is gonna revoke your edrone card or something?

>>18510992
AEW used to have celebrities on all the time. Shaq, Rick Ross, Action bronson, Giannis etc. They never said shit before, it's only because AEW is too irrelevant to get anyone but youtube celebs now that they are complaining about WWE doing it.

>>18511013
Nigga shut the fuck up. He got put through a table and got the hot tag lmaooooo

>>18510572 (OP)
celebrities are a part of American wrestling and always have been. Dave’s autism and enmity against it is irrelevant just as he himself is irrelevant. He doesn’t even know what he wants. He’s obsessed with wrestling being oresent as real and his favorite fed is AEW which is the same brand of sports entertainment.

>>18511066
him taking a move and selling it like death buries his opponents? this is a weird argument

>>18511055
>but AEW!
There's nothing wrong with celebs coming in. Just don't have them hold their own against former world champions who have wrestled for decades after 6 weeks rehearsing a match at the performance centre

>>18511093
good thing this has literally never happened.

>but bad bunny
he has every puerto rican wrestler + the lwo assisting him
>but pat macafee
he got in 2 moves total in the match, one only because michael cole cheated to help him
>but johnny knoxville
he had the entire cast of jackass helping him.

please shut the fuck up about topics you are too stupid to understand

>>18511093
This never happened? Even cornette was fine with the jelly roll match other than him selling forever after the table spot, only disingenous smark faggots like you are complaining

>AEW
>around for 5 years
>only memorable moment was the sparklers during the DEAN match

KWAB

SKINNER!

>>18510998
>How many of these moments are going to be remembered and looked back on fondly like Austin and Tyson for example
All of them.
>In ten years do you think people are going to remember Cena's heel turn?
Yes.
>Do you think Jelly Roll or Bad Bunny are going to be relevant in 5-10 years?
Yes.

>>18511115
So anyway here's your next main event

>>18511253
>the main event is ultra-dimes
Oh no?

>>18511115
>Bad Bunny
Went 30 minutes with Damien Priest
>Pat
Went 15 minutes with "the ring general"
>No Knoxville
Comedy match. No issues with that.

>>18511264
maybe on planet retard

>>18511041
I think you slurp up slop like a good piggie for 7 hours a week, 52 weeks a year and you take criticism of WWE personal for some reason.

>>18511270
>thinking Cena isn't dimes
>thinking Logan isn't dimes
>thinking Cena vs Logan isn't dimes
The retard is you I'm afraid and let me tell you, your retardation is SEVERE

>>18510821
Tony fumbled the biggest babyface in the industry to his competition. Then he fumbled his biggest draw to his competition. A weak 6 month heel run that was bookended by the biggest turn since Hogan and a 5 star match doesn’t even compare

>>18510589
Correct

>>18511283
I think you're a gay retard who seethes about WWE non-stop and is extremely angry that AEW loses to it in every metric

>>18511283
piggiEs do be slurping up that slop and getting mad at anyone who doesn't online 24/7

>>18511313
GMS

>>18510800
It used to. The height of AEW's popularity is when they were announcing the debut of a new ex WWE guy or gal every few weeks.
>TONY KHAN HAS A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT

>>18511253
>the main event is two guys who look like wrestlers instead of a couple of midgets
Wow. How awful.

>>18511287
>but AEW!
Man I'm actually glad AEW is around so you guys can just point to that when someone criticises your slop. You'd probably end up strangling kittens or something if there was no AEW to use as a deflection lol

>>18510584
Yeah. Tina and Trips are very similar in how shitty their booking really is.

>>18511410
I think that, Tony shouldnt have made the Dynamite into song "you wanted war" if hes just going complain about WWE fighting a war against them with counter programming and stuff it makes no sense to do that he should change the song if he doesnt want war