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Anonymous No.18533636 >>18533645 >>18533662 >>18533672 >>18536086 >>18536174 >>18536209 >>18536213 >>18536473 >>18536543 >>18538627 >>18538666 >>18539452 >>18539463 >>18540795
Why did wrestling as a whole drop from the highs of 2022-2023? Was Roman that much more of a draw than Cody?
Anonymous No.18533641 >>18538388
Honeymoon period first ended for AEW and now it's ending for Triple H's booking after Vince is gone
Anonymous No.18533645
>>18533636 (OP)
Every time Phil gets hired somewhere there's a honeymoon period that's immediately followed by a downside in business. He's sort of like the canary in the coal mine. You only hire him because you've run out of idea and you now have to rely on a nostalgia act to keep things going but it doesn't last long
Anonymous No.18533662
>>18533636 (OP)
Gaytch is a bad booker, aew's fall off has lead to the wwe hardcores feeling less like they have to defend everything, true hot periods only last so long for any company, yes Roman is a much bigger draw than Cody
With all that their still hot and have a few more years until things get anywhere close to resembling bad
Anonymous No.18533672 >>18535736 >>18535744 >>18536274
>>18533636 (OP)
cawdy was better in the chase with the story than as the guy
Anonymous No.18535143
Grim
Anonymous No.18535736
>>18533672
Yup pretty much this. It's also gonna be his second title reign and he's been fed every believable competitor already so who knows what's next
Anonymous No.18535744
>>18533672
Unfortunately many such cases
Anonymous No.18535755
Anonymous No.18536086 >>18536226 >>18536436
>>18533636 (OP)
Cody is a substantially bigger draw than romanetty, evidenced by business spiking when he returned from injury and spiking even more in the period after he won the belt at mania
It's dropping off because gaytch put the belt on cenetty and strategically defocused cody
Anonymous No.18536174
>>18533636 (OP)
It’s all NOBODIES!
Anonymous No.18536209
>>18533636 (OP)
The fans got in the ring
Anonymous No.18536213
>>18533636 (OP)
Yes, but Triple H was still ripping off Vince storylines.
Anonymous No.18536226
>>18536086
Codyfags actually believe this
Anonymous No.18536274 >>18536490 >>18538273
>>18533672
Genuinely, who wasn't? Like, what babyfaces had a good title chase, then got even more over after getting the belt? My first thought is 80's Hogan, but I don't really remember the chase, so I don't know if that counts. Good face champs are just tough all around. Even Austin and Rock were much more over chasing the belt than holding it.
Anonymous No.18536436
>>18536086
truke
Anonymous No.18536473 >>18537517
>>18533636 (OP)
Covid. Or more specifically, the end of the covid lockdowns. The masses were chomping at the bit to go out and see shows again. And that same energy was felt by viewers at home too. Cunter squandered all those eyeballs and butts in the seats. And now the post-lockdown vibe is fading. Romanjeets are too retarded to analyze anything outside the wrestling bubble (or should I say bobble?)
Anonymous No.18536490 >>18538273
>>18536274
Hogan got more over with the belt. But he never had to chase it. There wasn't a feud with Iron Sheik. That said, Austin did have a lengthy chase for the WWF title and he did get even more over after he won it too.
Anonymous No.18536543 >>18537517
>>18533636 (OP)
It's very simple and I'll lay it out for you.

2019.
People had money.
People saved money up for a rainy day, and to go somewhere they wanna go "maybe next year".
2020.
Lockdowns.
People couldn't go wherever they wanted anymore. Nothing was open. No more maybe next year.
It persisted through 2021.
In 2022 most people got access to the live events again as tyrannical measures were cooling down.
People HAD money. People SPENT all the money.
They weren't going to wait. There won't be a next year. Gotta go now.
2023.
Some folks still had money. Most didn't. Stimulus checks were spent, savings were spent, and credit is maxed out on fuel and other required expenses.
2024.
The people who still had some money ran out of money.

And that's why wrestling has dropped as a whole.
Those insane ticket prices in the WWE?
The punters in the front row and 30 rows back all around?
Corporate tickets.
Businesses buy those up and forward them through lotteries and inside-company games at their own in-house events.
A lot of those tickets are sponsored as well, for example a charity case here and there.
Most of the seats you see on the hard cam are paid for with tax deductions and favours from megacorporations, not your hard labour or a normal bank account.

The wrestling boom marks talked about was literally just Cody's story.
There was nothing else of interest at WM40.
WM41 had CM Punk. Besides that, not really any interest since Travis Scott, the Rock and Cena did well to sour the event with that debacle at EC. That's still just 2 majorly hyped storylines in an 8 hour event spread across 2 days.
It's UFC style booking where the main event is the only event, and everything else is secondary. 3 hours of secondary with a shitload of commercials and VTR hype pieces is too much.

TL;DR: The bubble popped. Nothing new.
Anonymous No.18536563
Anonymous No.18537039
Gaytch could only last so long on the merit of not being Vince and Dwayne appearing once every six months.
Anonymous No.18537517
>>18536473
>>18536543
These
Anonymous No.18537557
I like how when we discuss the fall of modern wrestling AEW doesn't factor in this at all since they aren't even a bleep on the wrestling radar
Anonymous No.18538273 >>18539093
>>18536274
>>18536490
hogan had the belt back when people thought wrestling was real and only saw hogan wrestle on tv a handful of times a year
Anonymous No.18538388
>>18533641
fpbp
Anonymous No.18538627
>>18533636 (OP)
CM Punk was never a draw.
Just his inflated ego and his retarded fandom thinks he is.
Anonymous No.18538666
>>18533636 (OP)
Honeymoon was over and ticket prices shot through the roof when they sold.
Anonymous No.18538675
Anonymous No.18539093
>>18538273
>when people thought wrestling was real
Kek. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we knew it was a performance back then too. Only little kids thought it was real in the 80s.
Anonymous No.18539452
>>18533636 (OP)
You have to mortgage your house to afford tickets to a WWE event now.
Anonymous No.18539463
>>18533636 (OP)
Hot periods are inevitably followed up by cold periods. Wrestling has always been cyclical like that.
Anonymous No.18540795
>>18533636 (OP)
Who wants to pay $250 for raw tickets for those seats? TKO got too greedy. In 2022 i had floor seats for $150. And lvl 100 was like $70.
They can get away with 70% filled venues when the lowest ticket is still $50 for nose bleeds behind a pillar in Iowa