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Anonymous No.18540955 >>18540959 >>18540970 >>18541184 >>18541283 >>18541328 >>18541441 >>18541679 >>18541945
Due to Naomi being pregnant Asuka is quickly being bumped up as the next top heel for the women's division. How are we feeling about this bros?
Anonymous No.18540959 >>18540971 >>18540972 >>18541416 >>18542580
>>18540955 (OP)
Oinko Sty will never be world champion again after her failure of a reign
Anonymous No.18540967
Great, want Asuka / Vaquer every monday
Anonymous No.18540970 >>18540974 >>18541027 >>18541290
>>18540955 (OP)
Beyond the segment from this past Monday she has zero heat right now. Crowds love her and I don't think her going after Iyo is going to be enough to make people want to boo her. Iyo's a strong face so they'll cheer her over Asuka, but say you put Asuka against a lesser face like Maxxine or god forbid Lyra. The crowd is picking Asuka. So it doesn't do much as far as helping babyfaces out
Anonymous No.18540971 >>18541133
>>18540959
>Iyo not getting booked at all is her fault
?????
Anonymous No.18540972 >>18540979 >>18542590
>>18540959
Theyโ€™re literally gonna put the title right back on her if Naomi is pregnant
Anonymous No.18540974 >>18540998
>>18540970
Asuka is gonna work with the big names lol not Maxxine or Lyra
Anonymous No.18540979 >>18542444 >>18542590
>>18540972
they're putting the belt on Vaquer
Anonymous No.18540984 >>18540990 >>18541031 >>18541307 >>18541413 >>18541763
WWE desperately needs a draft the Smackdowns women's division is dire meanwhile RAW has fucking Iyo, Rhea, Asuka and Steph that will be at the top and that's not counting Liv who's out.
Anonymous No.18540988 >>18541094 >>18541666
I will get Asuka pregnant
Anonymous No.18540990
>>18540984
The two shows aren't treated as equal anymore since Netflix has Raw which automatically makes it the most watched and they likely demand all the best talent.
Anonymous No.18540998 >>18541003 >>18541018 >>18541040 >>18541672 >>18542387 >>18542451 >>18544373
>>18540974
Surely. That's not my point though. What I was getting at is as it stands the crowd has very little reason to boo Asuka. And since so many people already love her you're going to end up with 50/50 crowds if you put her against even someone like Vaquer. If they want Asuka to take the role as Raw's top women's heel then they need to work overtime on giving people a reason to hate her. Not to say they can't or won't. This is all only just happening. But there's a lot of goodwill she has to undo if they want her booed
Anonymous No.18541003
>>18540998
If she fucks with Iyo a lot that'll get boos very quickly
Anonymous No.18541007 >>18541022
E chads getting a top tier rivalry meanwhile that other company has Sasha feuding with some bitch that literally just showed up KEK
Anonymous No.18541018 >>18541413
>>18540998
I think you floor it on the plans of having what's left of Damage Control implode. Have Asuka turn on Iyo and even have her take out Kairi. Whether you want to make it a jealousy thing, a paranoia thing, a her feeling held back by them thing, whatever the case. Isolate her from them entirely and let her stand on her own. She doesn't have to change her look up but I would like a different demeanor. She's essentially done the same entrance since NXT. Keep the theme but mix up the actual entrance
Anonymous No.18541022 >>18542360
>>18541007
>WINZA! WINZA!
Anonymous No.18541027
>>18540970
Womeme never generate heat.
Anonymous No.18541031
>>18540984
WWE desperately needs to keep Iyo, Rhea, Asuka and Steph on the same show, because there's objectively zero reason for any of them to not work with the others
Like what the fuck is the smackdown division gonna bring to the table
Fuck all, that's what, fire half of them
Anonymous No.18541040 >>18541051 >>18542561 >>18542652
>>18540998
There are no real heels in 2025 lol even fucking Seth gets cheered, Naomi gets chants, yeah Asuka is still gonna be mega over, and yeah the crowds are gonna be half behind her. But Rhea, Vaq and Iyo are all slightly more over than her now, and she can do an amazing job at putting at least one of them over the top.
It's gonna work just fine if they don't dilute it with random shit nobody gives a fuck about, like trying to shoehorn anybody else in the mix
Anonymous No.18541051 >>18541070
>>18541040
>even fucking Seth gets cheered
Don't get me started on that group. They should be babyfaces. They're a babyface faction. Everyone wants to sing Rollins' theme. Everyone wants to pop for Bronson's splash. Everyone wants to cheer Breakker spear a motherfucker. That's why every week ends with the crowd chanting 'one more time' while they beat down whatever babyface they're after. They're a face group being forced as heels and I think that's a big part of why they aren't clicking
Anonymous No.18541070
>>18541051
Yeah they should, but cool heels gotta start as cool heels, then they get the crowds to turn
Hopefully the goal is gonna be to turn Bron and Bronson and have them collect everybody's shoes
The real problem is that they don't want to risk actual heat with the audience. I mean, I can get it, their heels are over too and they don't want to fuck it up. The crowds just love guys doing whatever they want, and cool heels are just antiheroes.
At the core, the problem is that WWE is still a heel promotion, and they can't turn the promotion babyface no matter what they try
So everytime they're making a faction run amok, people cheer, because yeah, fuck corporations bro
Anonymous No.18541094 >>18541147
>>18540988
but enough about what I will do.
Anonymous No.18541133 >>18541137 >>18541153 >>18541158 >>18541416
>>18540971
It is. She didn't learn English during her entire time in the US and I came back to bite her in the ass when it mattered most - since she can't develop a character she was relegated to the background during her Mania feud. It's evident they soured on her by the way they kept her off multiple PLEs as well as SNME.
Anonymous No.18541137 >>18541145
>>18541133
You're retarded 0RG0X
Anonymous No.18541145
>>18541137
I accept your concession. Also, no need to type your captcha in your post, it goes in the captcha field.
Anonymous No.18541147
>>18541094
no, me
Anonymous No.18541153
>>18541133
Yeah it makes total sense that they're so disappointed in her they're keeping her in the main event sphere. What a fucking moron.
Anonymous No.18541158 >>18541173
>>18541133
>here, have a belt at our biggest event, oh no, I just remembered that you can't speak English and that our shitty writers can't work with anything involving body language, now I've soured on ya, so now you're not booked LOL
what actually happened is that they gave a massive failed push to somebody else and it took all the screentime of the women division
This shit is so fucking weird, because they've got literally one thing to do to get the women main event scene going, and it's giving them matches
Instead we get Iyo jobbing to midcarders and Maxxine vs Becky while Rhea is on a diet and Steph is MIA
I'll never say this enough, but fuck Lyra
Anonymous No.18541173 >>18541181 >>18541182 >>18541190 >>18541311 >>18541318 >>18541422
>>18541158
Fuck Lyra too, but it's clear that Iyo's biggest feud of her career was spent as the third wheel. She literally may as well not have been there and it would have changed nothing in the build up. Obviously, that's on the writers but there is only so much you can do with someone who can't speak English in an American promotion. Multiple PLEs passed with mid matches that she could have been slotted in for, but nothing happened. Why is that? Because they thought of her as transitional.
Anonymous No.18541181
>>18541173
The issue is they hardly had her defend her title or featured her at all. The English doesn't matter much when the majority of the women are awful on the mic anyhow and she sounfs fine.
Anonymous No.18541182
>>18541173
Iyo is over though. Lyra isn't
Anonymous No.18541184 >>18541194
>>18540955 (OP)
>Something bad happens
>Use Asuka to stabilise the division
How many times has this happened? She's essentially the women's division equivalent to Tony using Mox whenever shit hits the fan
Anonymous No.18541190
>>18541173
>Multiple PLEs passed with mid matches that she could have been slotted in for, but nothing happened. Why is that?
Because they were pushing Lyra and had 30 women to put in the remaining spot on each card
Anonymous No.18541194
>>18541184
>She's essentially the women's division equivalent to Tony using Mox whenever shit hits the fan
lol
no
wtf
Anonymous No.18541283
>>18540955 (OP)
Did Asuka even ever turn face? IYO, Kairi and Dakota all turned when Asuka was hurt, then Asuka came back and started subtly shit talking IYO like her first or second week back
Anonymous No.18541290
>>18540970
Asuka isn't going to work with the mid carders. Asuka was always cheered no matter if she was a face or heel, that's that one joke image everyone posts of her and Kairi saying all the bullshit they do and get cheered. it's like how Dom and Liv get cheered for doing bad stuff
if they really want heat, have her beat down kairi
Anonymous No.18541307 >>18542590
>>18540984
Keeping the title on Tiffany instead of Charlotte was the wrong move
I have no idea what their plan is now besides Bianca maybe coming back soon
Anonymous No.18541311 >>18541332
>>18541173
She was even the third wheel in the WM40 feud
You would've thought it was Bayley vs Dakota with the way the story developed
Anonymous No.18541318 >>18541325 >>18541339
>>18541173
>Iyo's biggest feud of her career
has barely started and is gonna be great
Anonymous No.18541325 >>18541360 >>18541429
>>18541318
>two women rambling in broken english or their own languages is gonna be great
Pass
Anonymous No.18541328 >>18541431
>>18540955 (OP)
if this leads to asuka somehow getting the belt again no complaints from me
it is funny to me how asuka is the top heel again only after they had to replace their first top heel (liv) with naomi who now also needs to be replaced - it's a good thing that HHH's hand was forced though, because with his usual "slow burn" heel turns, it wouldn't happen until next year
more likely what i think is going to happen is they'll set up vaq/iyo for paris and asuka will interfere and cost iyo and then they'll run that
there is also a larger point that there are not enough women's heels, particularly at the top level, and the rosters between the two shows at that level need some shuffling around; they really need to start the draft
Anonymous No.18541332 >>18541427 >>18542472
>>18541311
Why the fuck did they get rid of Dakota again? She would be perfect right now with the Damage CTRL story going on and a lack of heels.
Anonymous No.18541339 >>18541371 >>18541975
>>18541318
>eeee escuso mio, I wantu win la championshipa
>Stebbanie Vakea yuuu wirr rose to ME
Anonymous No.18541360
>>18541325
yeah cause the feuds in english are riveting and well written lol
They sound better and more real than 95% of the whole roster, Vaquer is getting decent at english and she seems to have a knack for good lines
If they have to keep it simple without endless scripted segments it even has a chance of a really being good, imagine that
And thankfully most people can understand wrestling feuds through wrestling matches
they can have subtitled promo package, etc. nobody cares about grammar in a good feud honestly
Anonymous No.18541371 >>18541388
>>18541339
you're right it's never gonna get over, it should go something like this
>BECAUSE YOU SEE, IN THIS BUSINESS, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS......
20 minutes later
>AND THAT IS WHY I'M GONNA BEAT YOU THIS SUNDAY ON PLE AND WIN THE TITLE BACK, BECAUSE THE FANS......
20 more minutes later
>WELL THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT YOU SEE, YOU FORGOT ONE THING, AND IT IS THAT, IN THIS BUSINESS.....
Anonymous No.18541388 >>18541417
>>18541371
No English speakers promo like this. The one who comes closest is Cody and look at where he's now. Hell, even that shit segment between Becky and Bella was saved by bants which is something Vaquer and Iyo would never be able to do.
Anonymous No.18541399
>bitchtits frantically blaming everyone else for Iyo failing
ACKSHULLY Pisces was 0.0012 degrees to the west of Aquarius during the summer solstice, nobody could draw because it influenced the magnetic field and repelled all the dimes!
Anonymous No.18541413 >>18545335
>>18541018
damage ctrl has already broken up
>>18540984
just send some of the nxt girls to slopdown. netflix paid a ton for RAW so they want Rhea, Steph, IYO and Asuka, especially since they want to market it overseas
Anonymous No.18541416 >>18541982
>>18541133
>>18540959
GMS!!!
God you are fucking retarded, they just had a whole episode revolving around IYO. She's way over. the worst thing you can say about her is that she's better chasing the title than holding it, but that's true for a lot of wrestlers. like fucking Cawdy sucks dick holding the title
Anonymous No.18541417
>>18541388
I'm exaggerating of course. but even though Gaytch was convinced by his writers to let go of his worst instincts as far as verbiage goes, the structure is basically that and always the same.
never gets interrupted when those people should be getting in a fight because of that last line, and it's too fucking long, waaaaay too fucking long
ngl my secret hope with them having to book feuds with ESLs, if they want to push internationally, is that they rediscover the lost art to keep it simple and short and to the point.
Vaquer and Iyo can also improvise cause they're both relatively quick and very experienced, not by quipping in that way, but they should make this like a classic wrestling program, short promo time, maybe short classic interviews, no full scripts, let it sound real then have them fight
The problem is the overwhelming influence of the writers room who want their grubby hands on every piece of word uttered on the program
not often understanding that they have one of the greatest cast of physical performers ever and that they should let them do this shit more often with more freedom
That's the kind of shit they could learn from ESL feuds
Anonymous No.18541422
>>18541173
they skipped over her for multiple ppvs because they only had 5 matches per ppv and becko demanded the ppv slot for her dimeless matches. Like the IYO and Rhea v Roxy and Giulia match should have been on a ppv and her last 3 PPV matches, mania, evo and summer slam were great and the match that should have been part of EC that was on RAW where she took the belt off Rhea was great
Anonymous No.18541427
>>18541332
her contract was coming up anyway, she's old and they saw no value in jobbing her out
Anonymous No.18541429
>>18541325
gunna be better than potato or coconut theater
Anonymous No.18541431 >>18541448 >>18541498
>>18541328
I don't think they are wasting IYO v steph on a ppv in a third world country. it might be roxy v steph
Anonymous No.18541441 >>18541447
>>18540955 (OP)
>Was planned to be a slow burn
Like everyhing Paul does, he slows down a 2 week storylime over the course of 6 months until nobody gives a shit. Fuck you Paul.
Regarding the turn itself, I hope it concludes in a triple joshi threat with Kairi wining the belt.
Anonymous No.18541447
>>18541441
custody of kairi ladder match
Anonymous No.18541448 >>18541491
>>18541431
Not him but I've seen you post this like 10 times lmao
So that "PPV in a third world country" is in a brand new 60k seats arena in the most famous city in the world and one of the most expensive to run, in a market that they had never ever been to before last year, where the crowd was absolutely berserk for the entire thing
I'm pretty sure that even if it isn't one of the major yearly PPV, it's not exactly a filler show either and they want to see just how much they can juice this country
Anonymous No.18541491 >>18541518 >>18541530 >>18541540
>>18541448
it's a third world country filled with poor retards who can't read and can't afford AC or water. Last year they had bayley v piper and drew vs gay undertaker and bash in berlin had lame shit like cawdy vs ko or a pair of tag matches.
Why would they run it in a third world country and not at survivor series or in saudi arabia?
Anonymous No.18541498 >>18541526
>>18541431
you keep saying this nigga but it's gonna happen, they are going to want to put this high profile match in front of a loud crowd
Anonymous No.18541518 >>18541526
>>18541491
Yeah I had guessed that you were completely braindead
Anonymous No.18541526 >>18541546
>>18541498
it's a third world country, they will save it for a place with dimes
>>18541518
nah, that's you, no AC having faggot
Anonymous No.18541530 >>18541566
>>18541491
>it's a third world country filled with poor retards who can't read and can't afford AC or water
sounds like america
Anonymous No.18541540 >>18541566
>>18541491
Yeah no lol pretty sure everybody on the roster who watched even 30 seconds of the Lyon PPV has been politicking for a spot on the card, cause they may never see another crowd that hot in their lives
Anonymous No.18541546 >>18541572
>>18541526
lol they're fleecing this crowd with tickets starting at 150 dollars in one of the richest cities on the planet, but sure, they're gonna keep it for a 12k random RAW in New Jersey or a dead Saudi crowd of 20k
Anonymous No.18541566 >>18541581 >>18541720
>>18541530
America is the only first world country. it's why we have the dimes to support multiple wrestling feds and yurop has no feds
>>18541540
doubt it. poorfag country full of retards
Anonymous No.18541572 >>18541581
>>18541546
saving it for a ppv in a good country like the US or saudi arabia
Anonymous No.18541581 >>18541600
>>18541566
>>18541572
You know what, your reasoning is completely retarded, but since WWE is retarded too your conclusion might be correct
Congratulations
Anonymous No.18541600
>>18541581
my reasoning is correct. yurop is a third world country and it's going to be sold out anyway
Anonymous No.18541666
>>18540988
>She turns 44 next month
Terrible idea Anon
Anonymous No.18541672
>>18540998
When Asuka beats up Kairi after convincing her to betray her best friend Iyo, she'll get booed plenty.
Anonymous No.18541679 >>18541771
>>18540955 (OP)
Except Becky is the top heel on Raw
Anonymous No.18541720 >>18541747 >>18541771
>>18541566
>America is the only first world country
full of niggers fucking your women while you cry online
Anonymous No.18541747 >>18541771
>>18541720
at least Iyo is having sex with EVIL
Anonymous No.18541763
>>18540984
can we please just end the brand split
it would be better for everybody
Anonymous No.18541771 >>18541775 >>18541990 >>18542625
>>18541679
becko is a mid carder in a mid card feud and literally right after mania Liv got cheered over her
>>18541720
>>18541747
GMS!!!
Anonymous No.18541775 >>18541802
>>18541771
american girls worship bbc while you cope post on 4chan lol
Anonymous No.18541802 >>18541821
>>18541775
lmao, nice fanfic, yuro.
Anonymous No.18541821 >>18541868
>>18541802
>nooooooo it's not real nooooooo
lol every girl in america craves bbc while you cry on 4chan about bullvert and 4/10 ringrats (who have also been blacked) to cope
Anonymous No.18541868 >>18541875
>>18541821
lmao, you are one desperate for attention yuro today
Anonymous No.18541875 >>18541881
>>18541868
lol maybe if you seethe harder the bbc takeover of your nation will stop?
Anonymous No.18541877 >>18541930 >>18541939 >>18545271
Have Asuka beat down Kairi. Easy heat. Everyone thinks of Kairi as super sweet and adorable
Anonymous No.18541881
>>18541875
I know thatโ€™s right
Anonymous No.18541930 >>18545271
>>18541877
This. It'd be the ultimate betrayal from Asuka. Kairi is a sympy goldmine. Asuka can be a nasty vicious bitch when she wants to. Nuclear heat
Anonymous No.18541939 >>18545271
>>18541877
on one hand this would work, but on the other hand there's never really going to be a situation where asuka would do that in the first place, ever.
Anonymous No.18541945
>>18540955 (OP)
Asuka pushing Iyo after 2 months of being passive aggressive was not a slow burn?
Anonymous No.18541975 >>18541979 >>18541984
>>18541339
Iyo and Vaquer segments are better than many native English speaker segments.

The simple "I am the best and I like to fight" or "you will never beat me" lines are more entertaining and relatable that retarded shit like Becky stompers.
Anonymous No.18541979
>>18541975
put down the crack pipe and start exercising bitchtits
Anonymous No.18541982
>>18541416
Kek Iyofag now crying about Cody. Ya just gotta love him!
Anonymous No.18541984
>>18541975
GMS!!!
Anonymous No.18541990 >>18542004
>>18541771
>getting more screen than the actual women's champs are getting
joshifags really are the most delusional
Anonymous No.18542004
>>18541990
seff gets a lot of screen time and he is dimeless as shit too. sami gets screen time and I'd rather watch gayew than watch sami
Anonymous No.18542360 >>18545320
>>18541022
Is her gimmick insisting that Americans say her surname like britbongs do or what?
Anonymous No.18542387
>>18540998
Easy. Hype a match for the vacant title where everyone thinks Iyo will win or Rhea. Then have Asuka win clean in a squash. People will feel cheated and start hating her. The Charlotte way always works
Anonymous No.18542444
>>18540979
Vaqeur is mainly being used as a 5 second face off against people backstage. She isn't ready to cut promos or carry feuds.
Anonymous No.18542451
>>18540998
Hurting Iyos feelings will get her booed. Iyo was so over that Rhea was being booed at Summerslam.
Anonymous No.18542472
>>18541332
she would most likely be injured right now
Anonymous No.18542561 >>18542608 >>18542652
>>18541040
Seff only gets cheered because of his song. Literally take away his song and no one gives a shit about him
Anonymous No.18542580
>>18540959
>Blaming Iyo for Becky Lynch's retarded booking and Creative Control
Anonymous No.18542590
>>18540979
>>18540972
You both wrong, Becky Gimore is stealing all of the female divison's belts because she is the Female booker now.
Naomi getting preggo pretty much put her on heel spot

>>18541307
The Plan was to Bianca to return and take the belt off Naomi at Wargames
Anonymous No.18542608 >>18542652
>>18542561
He's a heel metrosexual gimmick that constantly gets treated as a babyface.
Between heel booking and face reactions, the guy's in fucking limbo.
He's not even a bad worker, the creative just doesn't know how to handle a faggot (gimmick), which is ironic because it's full of faggots (shoot).
Anonymous No.18542625 >>18542662
>>18541771
Becky is the Booker now retard, she put herself on the main event to copy Seff, HER HUSBAND.
Anonymous No.18542652
>>18541040
>>18542561
>>18542608
this, no one likes seff. they literally cheered and sang his song when sneed was raping him. he's a song merchant. notice how becko got a worse reaction with her new song too
Anonymous No.18542662 >>18542678
>>18542625
I literally turn raw off before the main event every week and start raw late every week just to avoid seff sloppa, homo
Anonymous No.18542678 >>18542732
>>18542662
Yah and she is doing this now.
her new gimmick is that no one belongs in the ring besides her, and she will put herself to get all belts.
Triple H needs to fire the writers and stop giving creative freedom to his nepobabies.
Anonymous No.18542732
>>18542678
oh I wouldn't know. I've not watched a becko segment or heard her or the hog speak since she dropped the tag belts to Liv
Anonymous No.18544300
bump
Anonymous No.18544373
>>18540998
that's because every single female wrestler is booked to be friends with each other just look at iyo and rhea KEK especially when they always take photos and break kayfabe
Anonymous No.18545271
>>18541877
>>18541930
>>18541939
This would be the only thing that could get me to buy into another Asuka heel run. It would work everyone into a shoot. I can see all the mouths hanging open in shock as Asuka beats up Kairi. Nuclear heat. Just typing the sentence โ€œAsuka beats up Kairiโ€ and imagining it feels so vile. Because ANYONE harming Kairi feels wrong. Let alone Asuka
Anonymous No.18545320
>>18542360
Her gimmick is that she's a pokemon who can only say her own name
Anonymous No.18545335
>>18541413
>damage ctrl has already broken up
Yeah but they've still had Asuka and Kairi acting like Iyo's buttbuddies ever since. It was a soft break up mostly just because they dumped Dakota and Iyo got pushed on her own. They never actually had a breakup. Yet