Thread 18551603

Welp, that explains why WWE suddenly got so aggressive.

>>18551603 (OP)
Netflix got swindled. That's the real heist of the century right there lol

>>18551603 (OP)
E-NIGGERS on suicide watch

>>18551603 (OP)
Oh no no no no no pfffff bwahahahahaha

>>18551603 (OP)
>Dave said

>>18551603 (OP)
Basically Dynamite is beating Raw and NXT every week when HBO MAX numbers are included in the ratings. Damn

>>18551603 (OP)
>Cockdrainer

Wow a program that's 80 percent commercials and entrances isn't doing well on Netflix?

Dave is getting desperate lol

is dave trolling aew fans? serious question

>>18551603 (OP)
in all honestly not even console warring, this checks out given how WWE has been acting these past few months when it comes to suddenly counter programming everything AEW does

>>18551653
he thinks being aggressively obnoxious on social media is going to bring in new people to pay 15 bucks a month

Drones not gonna like this thread

>>18551603 (OP)
Raw went from 3.2 mill to 900k in 8 months and that's global views which includes the US and everything else

You gotta be retarded to think Netflix is opting to extend wwe contract. But who knows wwe has a couple of years left to turn the ship around but I doubt it since wrestling predominantly made up of millenials who are aging out. There are no new wrestling fans

>>18551603 (OP)
This is flat out mental illness at this point. If the NBA averages 50k viewers on HBO Max, there's no way AEW is drawing over 4 times as many viewers. This is just made up nonsense and coping because AEW still can't turn a profit after 6 years.

>>18551603 (OP)
>based on numbers we are not providing

NOOOOOO HELP ME DRONIES

NO MILLY???

>>18551680
How many NBA games draw what dynamite does on TV?

>>18551680
AEW is going to be profitable next year that not me even memeing. Coupled with the business they've been doing this year and the tv rights deal money, they are good

I am just wondering how you arrive at these numbers in any logical way when RAW seems to be doing ok with 10k or so tickets every show and dynamite is doing somewhere around 2k?

>>18551694
They’re profitable now, Tony already confirmed this

>>18551699
>I don’t understand how WWE works as a live event and not a streaming weekly show.
Do you have autism?

>>18551603 (OP)
what are the variety of places?

>>18551680
people that want to watch the NBA aren't doing it on MAX, i know you're an e-drone that has zero knowledge of how real sports work but just thought i would help you out

>>18551701
He didn't. And they're not going to be profitable next year either.

>>18551693
every single one of them

>>18551610
no fucking shit, you see now why wwe is throwing everything but the kitchen sink at aew

>>18551711
What you basing that on then? Headcanon?

>>18551707
How is viewership plummeting but attendance isn't? explain it

>>18551694
>Coupled with the business they've been doing this year

where?

>>18551603 (OP)
>based on headcanon, last week's Raw did 920k viewers live and same day
Kek. Raw's doing over 2 milly and charting on the Netflix top 10 every week. The alternate reality AEWtists have invented for themselves is wild.
>a figure it almost surely beats
Daily reminder that AEW does way under 47k on Max.

>>18551711
He literally did in an interview yesterday. Do I trust the owner of the company, or a retarded edrone, who is more than likely a paid bot, on 4chan? Hmm tough choice there kek

>>18551719
Reality.

>>18551710
And yet we assume AEW viewers are on the grounds of?

>>18551720
Show sucks, people don’t want to watch 3 hours of slop every Monday on Netflix. Don’t be mad at numbers.

>>18551729
Post the video you morbidly obese tranny

>>18551729
>TONY SAID SO!

>>18551603 (OP)
>jew presented to you by jeet

>>18551694
>AEW is going to be profitable next year
AEW was supposed to be profitable in 2025. What happened there?

>>18551743
I don't believe dave's numbers. seems nonsensical

>>18551729
Tony has never said AEW is profitable. Try again.

>>18551756
What do you believe then? Why not go do the math yourself come back and show us how it’s not true.

>>18551603 (OP)
AEW wins again!

listen, obviously AEW is doing good business because then explain why WWE is chimping out

like genuinely

>>18551603 (OP)
If WWE wants to pop a milly rating they need to call The complete Matt Cardona.

>>18551744
https://bsky.app/profile/geebeefly.bsky.social/post/3lwfa4jvwms2y

Thurston already shut down Dave back in May.

https://x.com/BrandonThurston/status/1927540018069090814

>>18551761
>What do you believe then?
NTA but I believe the numbers released by Netflix. I don't believe outlandish numbers invented by AEW shill and compulsive liar David R. Meltzer that completely contradict the official numbers.

>>18551773
>I trust this guy when he says things I like
Absolutely spineless

>>18551781
Are you talking about you with Dave? The guy who is always wrong?

>>18551781
Edrones aren’t exactly smart

>>18551772
>bluesky
YOUR OWN SOURCE TONY KHAN SAYS "Hopefully profitability" ANDDDD STILLLL YOUR DUAL KWABOTY! TONY AND ROVERT!

>>18551776
Ok, do the maths. Show how it works. Then you can discredit him. Don’t just suck the jew cock because you think this billion dollar corpo is your friend

>>18551766
funny that they're completely ignoring this, because there's no answer that fits their narrative

DADDY?

>>18551794
You replying to yourself doesn't change AEW losing to NXT and selling 500 tickets in a bingo hall.

>>18551603 (OP)
I don't know where Drainmaker finds the energy to promote this bullshit company and how can he be so stupid he'll compare ON DEMAND streaming service to tv and then boast with ON DEMAND service of AEW adding some magic number he made up being better.

>>18551603 (OP)
>Almost surely beats
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>18551772
>Hopefully
Anon you had one job.

>>18551766
WWE is killing AEW for completely fucking up the pay structure in the pro wrestling business. Tony giving big money contracts to dimeless shitters is something that hurts every promotion(including AEW).

>>18551766
This
WWE is doing some insane propaganda with a completely different company to try and pretend that it’s bigger than AEW to potentially hurt a tv deal.
Why are they dedicating all these resources if there’s not something major happening.

>>18551797
3% ownership = David Meltzer

>Alex Windsor is a bigger draw than Iyo Sky

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18551603 (OP)
If there were a million people watching aew they would have still been watching aew all this time. Where are you just magically deciding that there's 200,000 extra people who only are going to be able to watch it on Max. Like are you fucking kidding me? It's just like the level of fucking like mental gymnastics these faggots have to do

>>18551806
Gotta be Tony, right?

>>18551789
>Ok, do the maths.
What math? Netflix says a number and I believe it because they're legally obligated to report truthful numbers. Do you expect me to be like Dave and start doing nonsensical math to arrive at some kind of deranged headcanon conclusion? That's not happening I'm afraid.

>>18551659
The worst part is is that it actually might. Leaning into grifter (even more so) ragebait shit isn't at all an uncommon or unsuccessful business model. Just look at Cornette. He's been running the phony aggressive hate bullshit for how many years? His audience eats it up and love it. If Dave goes full hardcore in favor of AEW instead of pretending to play both sides like he does then he'd probably get more AEWtists giving him money to tell them what they want to hear

>>18551810
>tony paying money to people they don’t want to hire is hurting WWE
What does this even mean? Do they want these wrestlers? Do they not? If they don’t want them why does it matter what AEW pays? If they do want them why don’t they just pay more money and then use them to make even more money?

>>18551815
Wait, so Hoggers here really is the retard who spams in the joshi threads?
Lol. You sad fat cunt.

>>18551827
>Netflix is legally obligated to report truthful numbers
KEK

>>18551830
Where did he say they don't want to hire them you fucking retard? Triple H hires shitters all the time. He brought back Flop Dolla.

>>18551603 (OP)
>A figure it almost surely beats

kek

KEK

>>18551812
You're so fucking scared of TNA lmao

>Tony Khan lied about MAX viewership and Meltz defended him because he owns 3%
nigga...you dead

>>18551610
I think me paying for this shit is the real crime.

>>18551841
So what’s the point? You don’t like AEW because you want a bunch of Jews to get a hundred million dollars each instead of ninety million dollars each

209,000>920,000????
I dont get it. Am I retarded? How would aew having 200k viewers means it beats RAWs 900k views?

>>18551825
Well, there aren't a lot of people in the IWC that could be that retarded, so probably

>>18551647
Dobt forget celebrities in the crowd or the attendence numbers! Or the sing alomgs.

>>18551857
Are you changing your argument because you're a retard? he said the point was they want AEW to die so they don't have to overpay for talent

>>18551864
>Dobt
Wheels is wasted again

>>18551864
>Dobt
>alomgs

>>18551828
>The worst part is is that it actually might.

it won't, his video views are pathetic and no one is paying 15 bucks a month for

>this thing could happen
>this thing might not happen
>see I was right

I love how desperate meltzer is. Hope he lives long enough to see his dreams crushed .

>>18551680
who the fuck watches basketball on Max?

>>18551869
Why do you personally give a fuck if WWE has to pay talent more money or not?

>Based on figures Netflix reported from a variety of places
meaning?

>>18551603 (OP)
KWABOTY

Meltzer praises AEW constantly because he needs to. If AEW fails, it just proves that Meltzer is wrong about what pro-wrestling has to be. It shows that he knows nothing about what it takes to be a success and what people want to see.
That's why he does this aggressive sucking off of AEW. That's why he oversells the match quality.

>>18551830
>What does this even mean?
Tony radically overpays wrestlers. Now many wrestlers expect to make an unrealistic amount of money from any promotion they work for. Promotions not backed by billionaire dads can't pay these unrealistic and irresponsible salaries. This hurts everyone. If Tony was paying appropriate salaries then AEW probably would've been turning a profit since 2019.

>>18551881
who the fuck watches wrestling on max?

AEW trannies really are the most delusional people on Earth lmao

>>18551743
So they would rather pay hundreds for tickets and 4+ hours in a stadium instead of just watching at home?
Its the same fucking slop whether you are there or at home. If attending a shitty show live made all the diffrence then why wont more people go to an aew show?

>>18551839
Netflix will get sued by shareholders and the SEC if they don't report truthful numbers. I know this clashes with the insane fantasy AEWtists have hallucinated that Netflix lies about its numbers, but your hallucinations lose and reality wins I'm afraid.

>>18551603 (OP)
TNA causing Dave’s gay lover’s promotion to lose their TV deal will be so poetic after Dave and Bryan spent years shitting on it.

>>18551884
Where did I say I cared retard?

>>18551895
Nobody. It's a safety net and cope for AEW cultists.
Just like the magical key demo that didn't matter until AEW came along.

Do Netflix and MAX ever release numbers or is everyone just talking out their ass ?

>>18551895
Nobody watches anything on Max. It’s a zombie streaming service at this point which is why they’re are breaking it up.

>>18551861
Is anyone going to explain how 200 is a bigger number than 900?

>>18551917
Netflix does. Max doesn't because the numbers are bad.

>>18551874
>>18551877
Suck a dick. I hit the wrong key and this is all youve got to reply with?

>>18551892
>an unrealistic amount of money
What the fuck are you talking about. WWE is a massively profitable company. They could give ever wrestler on the roster a 1 million dollar raise and STILL be making record profits. Why are you acting like it’s some mom and pop bakery that can barely make ends meet.

>>18551603 (OP)
This is complete bullshit because if it was true, Tony wouldn't hide it. He would demand MAX to release the numbers in order to brag about it publicly, and Warner wouldn't oppose because what better way to show youmade a good business decision than to show you're beating the competition.

BUT

None of that is happening, therefore these numbers are not real

>>18551917
Netflix releases some numbers, but they're not precise. HBO Max doesn't release any. Anyone that claims to know AEW's viewership numbers on streaming is simply talking out of their ass or making things up.

>209,000 people on MAX
This just isn't happening. They can barely get those kind of numbers for free on YouTube.

>>18551930
>tony brags about getting 700k
>doesn't say anything about the supposed 500k watching on Max that would give him over a milly

that is the proof the numbers are bullshit

>>18551907
Jesus Christ you are dumb. Companies do this literally all the time. WWE just said 100,000 people came to summerslam even though it’s the same 50,000 people twice.

>>18551603 (OP)
Really feels like Dave is flooding the zone in anticipation of bad news for AEW. First the moving the SNME to counter program and the constant citing of imaginary numbers. Recently he has started to allude to AEW not getting renewed and this is his way to spin it into fed bad, WBD bad, not tony’s fault.

>>18551930
>this is not true because of my headcanon
Deranged

>>18551603 (OP)
Why are AEWtists such pathological liars?

>>18551917
Netflix stated Raw does over 2 milly. It also ranks on the top 10 every week. Max numbers have never been released but TNT Sports accidentally let slip that a huge NBA game did somewhere under 48k on Max. This NBA game was a much bigger draw than Dynamite so it's safe to deduce that Dynamite does significantly less than 48k on Max. Zaslav also said that live streaming sports on Max are basically insignificant.

>>18551939
but that's not a lie if people were charged for two tickets

>>18551895
I do. I only had cable for wrestling and hockey, and then my home team moved to a free streaming service and AEW moved to a much cheaper option so I canceled my cable.

>>18551938
Exactly. If live TV viewers plus streaming viewers was actually giving Dynamite better ratings than Raw, AEW would be bragging about it nonstop. The fact they literally NEVER talk about the streaming numbers proves this is just dirt sheet nonsense.

>>18551956
You don't have Max.

>>18551939
New cope just dropped. No wonder AEW trademarked it.

>>18551939
They sold over 100,000 tickets. Why are you upset? When they do the turnstile count do you think they will count them as the same person?

>>18551960
Yes I do.

>>18551955
It’s not technically a lie but it makes retards like you think they can draw 100,000 individual people and convince you to give them shitloads of money.
Like how they say they have a billion viewers on Twitter by adding up all the followers of every single Twitter account from the company and performers and pretending they are all individual people and not the same people multiple times.
Or how they say they have views on Twitter or TikTok without mentioning how much of the clip people watched. It’s all just bullshit to fleece the marks

it's funny watching the desperation of triple fumble and TKO start to affect the piggiEs. Its like watching birds start to lose their shit right before a bad storm.

>>18551929
This doesn't effect just WWE. It effects everyone. Nobody wants to grossly overpay for talent. WWE could technically pay millions of dollars for shitters but they don't want to and smaller promotions can't pay that much even if they did want to. Tony has even fucked over his own promotion by overpaying. Like I said, AEW would've been profitable long ago if he paid people what they're actually worth.

edrones are too poor and retarded to pay for Netflix

>>18551978
> Pretending they are multiple people
The irony of Hogwheels posting this.

>>18551984
You don’t work for WWE. You are not paying these wrestlers.

>>18551982
You and Dave are stressing because TNA is going to wipe the floor with AEW on Wednesdays.

>>18551992
>1992
e-sisters....

>>18551982
>it's funny watching the desperation of triple fumble and TKO start to affect the piggiEs. Its like watching birds start to lose their shit right before a bad storm.
There's a lot of desperation but it isn't coming from WWE's side.

>>18551946
The MAX number is a headcanon dude.

If it's not, then please, direct me to the official statement where these MAX numbers were presented.

>>18551903
Kek hogwheels dodged this

>>18552005
obsessing with counter booking shows months away is clearly desperation.

If netflix dropped WWE they’d get another billion dollar + deal by the end of the week. See: ESPN.

>>18551992
kek what a bitch

>>18551992
I like how you keep deflecting to WWE specifically even though I'm talking about how Tony's overpaying hurts literally every wrestling promotion.

>>18552007
I know you are very stupid but just go and read the original post then come back ok. You might need to look up what the phrase ‘almost surely beats’ means

He won.
He is the promised prince who saved wrestling.

>>18552017
funny that wwe and the e-drone defense force are the only ones that cry about it though

>>18552017
Because you’re a drone. You don’t actually care if NJPW loses wrestlers to American companies so why bother addressing it.

>>18551878
It's not about accuracy at that point though. Look to the world outside of wrestling. It's clearly not hard to amass a following from a bunch of retards by parroting to them what they want to hear and fueling hate against who they think is the enemy. That shit sadly works all too well and if Dave changed his business model to appeal entirely to the AEW crowd and go full WWE hate then he would have a new audience in his pocket

>>18552011
>IGNORE AEW'S PLUNGING METRICS
>AND ALSO THE FACT THAT WWE IS DOING RECORD BUSINESS
>WWE IS THE DESPERATE ONE
m i n d b r o k e n

>>18552025
based tonedog

>>18552025
>He won.
He can't beat the wrestling school

>>18552028
>>18552031
I'll say it again for the retarded seething AEWtist. Tony's overpaying of talent hurts every wrestling promotion including his own.

>>18552037
damn cuz you mad as fuck

>>18551986
But they can buy thousand dollar tickets every week

>>18551766
Occam's razor. But WWE fans will continue to stick their heads in the sand. A real good example of cognitive dissonance and of human behavior

>>18551603 (OP)
Neither of those numbers sounds remotely plausible.

>>18552052
and yet only wwe and the e-drones cry about it

curious

>>18551892
>Tony radically overpays wrestlers.
and?

>>18552052
Are you going to say the same thing when WWE starts offering more money to CMLL wrestlers to jump. Bear in mind that Mexican wrestlers are not paid much now (I know you don’t know this). Or is it just when poor lil WWE has to not give all its record profits to its Jewish overlords and actually has to pay the wrestlers.

Are AEWtists still trying to say that being in the top ten shows on Netflix 32 weeks in a row is a bad thing?

>>18551603 (OP)
AEW is clearly the biggest company in the wrestling world now. Normies basically don’t even remember WWE existed and MJF is more mainstream than the Rock or Austin were in the attitude era because he is in Happy Gilmore 2. My mother has never watched wrestling in her life but when she saw my son do some impressive aerobics on the jungle gym she mentioned how he was “a regular Hangman Page”. I don’t even watch wrestling, just here to comment on how much mainstream appeal AEW has

>>18551929
tko bought wwe for billions and just because they're insanely profitable right now doesn't mean they will be forever. They got pretty close to going out of business not that long ago and the other major entity tko own is ufc which is not profitable, being irresponsible would fuck them over in a matter of a couple years.

>>18552067
This is an ironic post because historically CMLL is famous for underpaying wrestlers and cutting them once they want more money which AAA pays them. I know you just started to pretend to follow CMLL like a month ago but important context!

>>18552042
He already buried them far away on another channel on a different day

>>18552052
No it only hurts WWE who now face competitive offers for talent they would otherwise tap up for cheap
Hurting WWE is good btw

>>18551939
does wwe get paid in some limited edition money if they get 100k different people you fucking knuckle dragger?

>>18552076
And what's the weather like on Planet Retard?

>>18552081
>historically this company underpays wrestlers and cuts them when they want more money
Yes this is the comparison with WWE which also does this until Tony came along. So are you going to say the same when WWE does this to CMLL and forces them pay more money or are you going to do nothing like the drone that you are?

>>18552090
>money and miles ya mark
>NO NOT LIKE THAT

>>18552020
And where this 'almost surely' comes from exactly? What is the metric that supports the confidence on the number being high enough to surpass RAW.

Because if there's no such thing then that means the only certainty about those numbers is your headcanon

>>18551861
The tweet is saying they 'would need' 200,000+ viewers from HBO Max to beat Raw's live viewer count

The Raw netflix numbers check out. I've been in the grim Raw gamethreads before and even the epiggies think Seth as the top guy isn't a draw. But the downtrend started way before Seth got to the spot he is now.

Truth is WWE has no stars except for Roman and Cena who is about to retire

>>18552102
Because if we assume that Raw on Netflix is doing in the millions as you insist it is it’s not a stretch at all to assume dynamite on max is doing 209,000 which is the point of the original post.

>>18552098
CMLL won’t pay more money. This already happened with AAA taking their guys over time. They just plug in other guys they train.

>>18551766
The real talk that no one wants to admit, or simply doesn't understand because wrestling fans are almost all retards, and dirtsheet writers are even dumber, is that all of this blatant head to head dick measuring WWE is trying now is a sign that AEW is actually doing very poorly and trending downward.
You do not, as a business, try to compete head to head with an established entity if they're on an upswing, or gaining momentum. You see if it passes as a "fad" and then if it maintains you begin to counter with a different niche or different strategy. AEW has been around for 7 years now, they are not some upstart indie company, and WWE already tried to stomp they out before anything ever started and got their ass kicked, which resulted in a complete overhaul of NXT, and moving it to another night. WWE then laid low, and tried to ignore them both on and off air.
The fact they're now directly trying again to stomp on them is a sign they feel the company is in a weak state and vulnerable. TKO did the exact same thing with Bellator and other MMA organizations.

holy shit man. e drones are going to go fuckjng BALLISTIC all weekend now.

boards going to become unusable.

thank god collision was on earlier in the week

>>18552115
So you are saying it will be fine for WWE to raid their talents for more money than CMLL wants to pay but it’s not fine for Tony to pay more money for talent WWE wants to hire for cheap?
Was it a problem when Vince gave big money contracts to Hogan, piper et al to jump ship to his company or was that fine as well?

>>18552111
they have wrestlers that can pass as stars, but their storylines have been garbage since they ran out of stuff Vince had created. Id say the solution is kicking hhh out but TKO would likely install an even worse dipshit yes man, so who knows.

If you think the Seth Riders are a draw, I got some ocean side property I wanna sell ya in Nevada

>>18551766
WWE has been trying to counter program AEW since the company started. This isn't something new. If they're more aggressive recently, it's because WWE itself is lowering their business due to their retarded decisions. However claiming that AEW is beating WWE is ludicrous. If such a thing was happening, the alarm would be in the deep red in WWE. What's more, heads would be rolling by now, starting with HHH.

>>18552140
bro, like 95% of this board are turnover fans, you tell them anything before 2019 and they'll give you a blank stare

That account blocked me because I made fun of Daniel Garcia.

>>18552152
>it's because WWE itself is lowering their business due to their retarded decisions
They just signed a deal with ESPN that's three times bigger than their previous deal that includes less stuff than their previous deal. Their arenas are still full.

>>18552152
> WWE itself is lowering their business
made a billion dollar rights deal last week btw

>>18552162
Garcia has momentum when he was conflicted between being a wrestler with Bryan Danielson or being a sports entertainer with the Jericho Appreciation Society. He just needs a good story that'll elevate him, and maybe get new gear, and get ON gear. He's still young

>>18551610
deal with swine get swindled

>>18551603 (OP)
yup, AEW won

>>18552178
sad but true

This is why everyone hates AEW and their fans. It just makes the comedown and shit ratings and attendance that much sweeter.

>>18552174
>signed a billion dollar rights deal
>can’t afford Okada
Ari needs another plane

>>18552162
you get what you fucking deserve

>>18552177
>sports entertainer
AEW IS sports entertainment.

Dynamite finally beating Raw. Chris Jericho VINDICATED

Sorry my Le Champion

>>18552184
>This is why everyone hates AEW and their fans
being as fat as several people combined doesn't make you "everybody"

>>18551656
If the fed gets rid of the trannies they have no reason to give us a better product and Netflix would not have a real comparison to know they got fucked it is in the best interest of WWE to make sure AEW fails, sorry for the younger fans if that happens they don't know what a monopoly looks like in wrestling

>>18552202
cooked that pig

>a variety of places
many people are saying this

>>18552184
I agree. I hate AEW fans way more than I hate AEW.

>>18552198
never doubt The Learning Tree

They WON

>>18551603 (OP)
That's why the PedoDrones have been squealing so hard. Fraid so

>>18552202
AEW fans are hated among every group. NJPW's real fans, Stardom's real fans, the puro crowd who know how damaging they are.

should I buy some of the bubbly!?

>>18552203
Actually it’s not in their best issues that AEW fails. That’s because at any moment a lawsuit based on the Kung Lee lawsuit can appear which TKO just lost and they need AEW to exist so they can prove they are not monopolizing wrestling. (Which they have been for years and are still trying to do)

>>18552220
>muh no true Scotsman fallacy
lose weight E-drone

>>18552214
I'm in the same boat. Their fans are the most rabid, tribalistic superautists I've ever encountered online. They're the Disney adults of pro-wrestling.

>>18551603 (OP)
Yeap. Dynamite totally did twice as many viewers than RAW. That is why Netflix signed AEW to a....oh wait. Well that is why ESPN signed AEW's PPV's...oh wait. Well that is why CW signed AEW's....oh wait. Well that is why Rampage is still on the a....oh wait.

>>18552229
>lose weight
Aren't you the obese neckbeard who shoves action figures into his own ass?

>>18552123
>the fact AEW are a big enough threat to WWE to warrant WWE going after them is proof that AEW is dying and don't need to be killed
Do you retards ever listen to the shit you type?

>>18552220
Kek you don’t know shit about wrestling ya dronie. You’re gonna have to do better than coming into generals to fail at trolling every now and again.

>>18552220
Attending an AEW show is the only place you can theoretically bag a wrestling gf since the crowd skewers more to 20-34 year olds. You go to a WWE show and it's just a bunch of boomers with their kids.

>>18551810
Wrestlers should get a fair pay compared to the suits in the back, WWE fucking us all with this insane prices and the amount of ads is not good for anyone other than their shareholders.
AEW would put the entire Summerslam/ Wrestlemania card on a single night for a single ticket price

>>18552242
no, that's just your fat schizo headcanon lol

>>18552247
Pfft go to an indie. There will be a bunch of women. Now they will all be hideous but they are there.

>>18552245
sad but true

>>18552245
You and your beloved brand are a cancer to pro-wrestling. Go out of your bubble and read the room.
>>18552247
>bag a wrestling gf since the crowd skewers more to 20-34 year olds.
With a cock?

>>18551869
overpay? fuck you, aren't they overcharging and making record profits, fuck those greedy cunts

>>18552244
Can you simply not read, or are you so brain melted that you subconsciously twist statements into thinking someone is attacking your favorite megacorp just to have something to be mad about?

>>18552217
Based Bucks poster

>>18551892
no wonder you guys are called drones

Isn't it funny how all traffic across the board has slowed to a crawl while the resident schizo sits in here samefagging?
Lol what a fat overstuffed sweaty TART.

having seen the drones melting down this bad since 664k Day

>>18551924
you're stupid beyond belief

>>18552217
>>18552270
we love and respect our ex-EVP's here

>>18551603 (OP)
>Only same day views count because...umm THEY JUST DO, OK?

>>18552288
founding fathers board

>>18551766
>Obviously Trump is winning bigly because everyone is attacking us and laughing at us!

>>18552304
Rovert is going to cry just wait for it.

>>18551610
With Jews you lose

>>18552306
>Trump outta absolutely finna nowhere
damn, you just can't help but seethe huh

>>18552230
There's no other wrestling company with a fanbase like this. Sure you can find some hardcore WWE fans who are comparable, but they are the minority of WWE fans. The toxic nature of AEW fans is core to the identity of the brand. It's what AEW is.

>>18552323
>he said, crying about AEW
lose weight lol

>>18552323
nigga drones have been like this and worse for literal decades. especially on shitholes like twitter.

>>18552323
The only other fanbase that rivals AEW's in pure autism and retardation is the Nintendo crowd.

>>18551603 (OP)
>WON
Meltzer's own fanfic

E-pigs in the mud, where they belong.

>>18552335
The average WWE show is families and couples and kids who don't even know what AEW is. Autistic tribalists are a small fraction. AEW on the other hand was built on tribalism.

>Gets called Hogwheels
>Is so fat, stupid and unoriginal that he replies with "No u a pig."
It would be funny if it wasn't a clean indicator of retardation.

>>18552323
>look at this screenshot of this literal who
>posting on a board which has consolewars every day about every topic in a thread of drones losing their absolute fucking minds about the possibility of AEW drawing 209,000 people on max
I genuinely think these people are slow minded

dronies trying to slide this smdh

>>18552340
Both are filled with transexuals

>>18552347
hate to break it to you but the average adult watching wwe at this point in time is an autistic manbaby that also loves disney and marvel and has a thousand funkopops. aka you

>>18552323
>dude posted a tweet with 31 views
>he was probably 20 of them
Grim

>>18552084
>On a different day
So even if Dynamite was actually getting viewers on Max then AEW couldn't beat Raw anyway because they don't run a show on Mondays right? This is going by your own logic

>>18551603 (OP)
>WON
>A figure it almost surely beats.
Lmfao

>>18552357
>possibility
The problem is you retarded cunts aren't acting like it's a possibility, you're forcing it as fact.
If AEW drew good numbers and is popular, why is their attendance so fucking bad? It's not even half-full arenas, they're quarter-full.
Why hasn't HBO revealed official numbers?

>>18552374
>hate to break it to you but the average adult watching wwe at this point in time is an autistic manbaby that also loves disney and marvel and has a thousand funkopops. aka you

>>18552383
Why are you so mad?

>>18552383
>if this is true then why is this not true
Nice shifting of the goalposts. I tell you what if you accept that there is a good possibility that dynamite does above 200,000 on max then we can discuss those topics.

>>18551603 (OP)
>WON
Lmao

>>18552390
Nobody is mad. Stop deflecting and answer the questions.
I know you've got no life and spend all day ragebaiting and fishing for the attention you don't get in real life, but at least answer.

>>18552396
Zarian already called BS on that number obese tranny bro

>>18552304
But with the real math it's actually 900k

>>18552396
>a good possibility
There isn't. You honestly think that hundreds of thousands of people suddenly developed an interest in a dog shit brand with no mainstream presence, appeal, or draws suddenly started watching when it went on MAX?

>>18552405
You mean Meltzer math.

>>18552401
>buzzzzzzzzwords
Nice so you don’t actually want to discuss. You’re just having a melty

>>18552374
I've been to multiple WWE shows and if you look around, you see a ton of kids. Tons of adults by themselves, and tons of families. WWE is for everyone and runs the whole gamut.

>>18552408
Then you should probably be more worried about why Raw has fallen off a fucking cliff since January shouldn’t you.

>>18552411
There isn't a discussion, Raw draws 1.8 million live in the USA and Dynamite loses to NXT every week.

>>18551729
Tony is cooking these Dronies on a spit roast.

Damn it feels good to be ALL ELITE

Alexa, play HH by YE

>>18552357
>the possibility of AEW drawing 209,000 people on max
There is a 0% possibility of that.

>>18552217
*bows the fuck down*

>>18552185
Did you catch Okada's promo on Dynamite? If they risk it and put Okada in bad segments than its done, let Okada be for the indie smarks.

>>18552416
It's a PG show for kids, no shit there are kids there. The adults (like you) that still watch are what is being discussed.

I am a piece of shit e-drone but I guess I'll have to kneel...

>>18552418
I don't care about WWE's ratings. Even though they're solid.
I just can't be fucked with you shitting all over the board.

>>18551603 (OP)
numbers dont lie

>>18552438
AEW numbers always lie

>>18552408
>people that pirated it previously no longer had to pirate once it became available on a streaming app they had
can drones not do they bare minimum amount of critical thinking?

>>18552436
>I don’t care
>even though
Couldn’t even get through your own post without revealing the LARP

>>18552438
>500M
I think they must've also included the bugs and vermin and microscopic life on the sweatlords in attendance.

>>18552450
>pirate
Lol. Cope.
Do you ever get tired of making excuses for your dog shit brand? If it was popular, why is attendance so fucking low?
>>18552451
I don't care about the ratings. Why should I?

I need MAX to just release the numbers once and it will be the end of this board, no matter which side is correct.

https://www.adweek.com/convergent-tv/netflix-doubled-tv-upfront-commitments/

>Regarding its offerings, the streamer’s ads leader said clients were looking forward to live programming, including WWE Raw, with Netflix partnering with DoorDash as the presenting sponsor for the new season

>>18552462
Damn surely Max is doing the same thing with AEW right?

>>18552459
You seem very much to care about the ratings my dude. You seem to be incredibly mad about the picture in the OP.

>>18552408
I watch on Max haven't had cable in years so I used to watch on Triller with a VPN, one of my friends still does for the PPV discount

>>18552416
>pEdo scans the crowd for children
typical MIGApEdo

When is going to hit the 4 singular WWE fans on here that it's not 2023 anymore and they aren't the cool kids anymore

Get no milly on Netflix is fucking insane kek

>>18552462
>door dash yourself some dude wipes you fucking goy

>>18552465
Sick of tribalistic retards.
Now, if AEW is so popular, why is attendance so low? Why do they have no mainstream presence, appeal or draws?

>>18552474
>>door dash yourself some dude wipes you fucking goy

I will say seth rollins and grandpa cm punk < hangman, sweve, ospreay, mjf, fletcher. AEW does seem to have a more exciting young group of male wrestlers.

>>18552459
>how could these numbers be possible
>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
it must be hard being this obsessed with ratings and constantly having to read things that upset you

>>18552471
WWE peaked at WM39

>>18552438
Spectacularly untied from reality. Did we ever figure out how he got such a blatantly impossible number?

>>18552480
Must be why AEW loses to NXT every week

>>18552462
IT BACKFIRED AGAIN

Someone make a new gamethread for this

>>18552482
>still can't answer or counter
Oh dear.
Answer the questions. Or will you deflect again?

>>18552476
Oh no we’ve establish that you don’t want to talk about those topics because you can’t rationally think about max without flipping your lid. The topic you should go and have a think about is what the fuck has happened to Raw since January and why doesn’t it work as a streaming show. How the fuck is it likely doing the same views as dynamite when it’s such a bigger show?

>>18552462
Just like that all the samefagging from wheels shutdown lmao

>>18552502
>deflects
Already told you that I'm not interested in WWE's ratings, schizo.
Now, why can't you answer my questions?

>>18552497
attendance being correlated to television ratings is a problem that exists in your brain because you listen to too many smark podcasts and have convinced yourself you're in the business, as such there's no answer anyone could give you that would be satisfying

the reality is that people aren't tuning into Netflix to watch Raw because accounts on Twitter just post everything as soon as it happens. It's becoming the new way to consume media, with 15 second clips on X. You dont need to watch Raw or Smackdown live anymore

>>18552511
Is that why the AEW ratings are such dogshit?

>>18551603 (OP)
so dave says that netflix says that some sources say that raw did some number that he pulled out of his ass? good to know

>>18552510
It's an indicator of demand and popularity.
If AEW's ratings are low and their attendance is low and fans have to reach for bizarro what ifs and made up stories, then dude, your yummy wummy favourite brand isn't popular. It's shit.

>>18552506
209,000 on max is not a big number my dude. It’s not being suggested that it’s doing the same streaming number as Raw at 900,000. However seems a plausible number don’t you think? Or can you only doompost and say no one is watching on max because of headcanon.

>>18552525
It's also a number that they aren't getting.
Where's the proof of it? Got any official sources?

>>18551603 (OP)
Big ups to the WWE for swindling Netflix like they did lol

new bread?

>>18552524
So attendance is up, that means Raw and Smackdown must be doing better television ratings that they were in 2005, right? 2014? 2018?

>>18552525
>Seems plausible
>Sports on Max are not a primary driver
Damn this tranny knows more than Zaslsv

>>18552525
isn't nxt doing like 100k on netflix? I doubt dynamite is doing more than double that.

MAKE A SECOND GAMETHREAD

>>18552532
TV is dead, but WWE remains massively popular and a mainstream icon.
What is AEW?

>>18552527
Do you understand what the word plausible means? Maybe go look it up and come back to us.

>>18552536
>AEWtists are reduced to making gamethreads about twitter posts involving made up numbers

>>18552532
Attendance isn't up.

>>18552543
You sound scared. Def gonna make a gamethread for this now. Give me a second

>>18552538
Again, you're forcing what ifs and hypotheticals as fact.
Where's the proof? Where's the indicator?

>>18552547
>>18552547
NEXT THREAD

>>18552547
>>18552547

>>18552537
Not going to answer the question? Or just going to change the argument now? You fucking drones are such disingenuous scum LMAO

>>18552553
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>18552552
If you are gonna stick your head in the sand and go lalalala at the concept of 209,000 being plausible because it upsets you then what are you even doing here?

>>18552554
Did you ask a question or were you just crying? AEW is dead. Is that the answer you were looking for?

>>18552562
>plausible
How many times has an AEW show made the top 10, I can go on the Max app right now and confirm if it made the top 10 this week.

>>18552568
no milly, pEdo?

>>18552378
I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about you greasy little piggy

>>18552577
>how many times has this thing that’s simulcast beaten things that are streaming only
Cmon lil dude what are we doing here.

>>18552587
So that's your new cope? I thought you would have a little more fight in ya but then I remembered you're diabetic and fat lmao

>>18552578
Yeah AEW hasn't drawn a milly in years, and AEW is the pedo fed. You're not mad are you?

>>18552601
Wow Tony sure does like hanging out with pedophiles

>>18552562
Show receipts. Show an indicator of this.
Can you do that or will you keep engagement farming and being pathetic?

>>18552487
Best quip they can't compete kek

>>18552535
>nxt on netflix
lmao