Thread 18554735

>>18554735 (OP)
Dimeless

>>18554735 (OP)
> Reads an entire article at the speed of an auctioneer only to ask something like "So what do you think of the Hurt Syndicate?"

Last Dutch episode was especially annoying. Just give the context for the question. Not every question needs an article to be read beforehand to give context. Twelve pages of "format" isn't something to tout when half of that is articles pasted from other sites.

Dutch is just a boring ass dude on top of being low IQ on top of CTE on top of senile dementia. How anyone watches that shit is beyond me.

>>18554735 (OP)
Genuinely can't stand whenever I hear some europoor accent on Youtube.

>>18555025
That's just Dutch's show though.
All that show is, is "hey here's news, what do you think about it".
Stevie's show is way different, he's taking charge all the time and interrupts James left right and centre.

I hate how every wrestling youtube videos has someone with a gay british accent

>>18554735 (OP)
>>18556743
yeah I hate bongs so much

>>18554735 (OP)
James is fucking based

Wrestling podcasts hosts need to follow these two rules
>1. The host needs to be more informed about the current headlines and general stuff outside of wrestling than the star.
>2. Don't make your own opinion the headline over the actual star of the show's thoughts.

James is as much of a shut-in as Dutch and Stevie, and half the time he's clueless about anything outside of the wrestling bubble as the actual stars of the show. Like when Dutch confused Kratom with Fentanyl, or when James kept insisting he never heard of Travis Scott and was like >If I, a 30-something britbong, never heard of this Travis Scott guy with 15 billions streams, a McDonalds meal and the man responsible for one of the worst crowd crushing disasters in recent memory, how would little DeQuavious in America know of him?

Last week he was bawling about Bruce Prichard "bullying" Abyss and how Abyss looked so nervous on Unreal. Stevie had a ptsd episode over it, but when James brought it up to Dutch, he shut it down by saying "Bruce is just ribbing him" and "Abyss always acts nervous." I mean Dutch would know, he's the one that discovered him and gave him the gimmick, yet the title of the video is still >Bruce Prichard BULLIES Abyss - Dutch Mantell reacts

Kek

>>18556879
You might have noticed by the way they produce every Vince segment that the default is that he's a rapist based on nothing but 63 pages of hearsay, a screencap of a text (not proven by telecom provider) and a lawyer insisting it's so serious that it must be true.
That's not objective neutral behaviour.
Nor is the behaviour where Brock Lesnar, just because he's implied and has in part been exonerated by the claimant but was implied, he must be a sex molesting wifebeating hardcore poopshoveling rapist. That attitude is shared by James and needs to stop before the "coloured journalism" approach gets him in legal trouble.
Jim Cornette of all people was the voice of reason in this and devoted 10 minutes to explaining why Reddit is wrong about Brock.

>tries to make a big stink about Pritchard making abyss uncomfortable
>stevie uses it to vent about Bruce rightfully seeing him as an expendable shitter
>Dutch just laughs and talks about how anxiety ridden Abyss gets and knows Bruce was ribbing him and making a show for the camera.

>>18554735 (OP)
>>18554876
>>18555370
>>18556743
>>18556775
Americans are speaking simplified and dumbed down version of the English language.

>>18559198
we speak American, not bonglish

>>18559211
You speak monkeyfied English, made simple because you're manchild fat low IQ retards.

>>18559198
sure

>>18559226
the US went to the moon, the bongs eat eels covered in jello and haven't invented the dentist yet.

>>18556593
I thought I've seen him do it in Stevie's show too but I could be wrong. The thing is he reads an article where it's not really needed. He read the whole press release for the ESPN deal instead of saying "ESPN bought PPVs for x dollars and the ESPN subscription costs y dollars".

>>18558401
>Dutch just laughs and talks about how anxiety ridden Abyss gets and knows Bruce was ribbing him and making a show for the camera.
Cornette said the same thing, where Bruce was working him up for the show. Idk how James and Stevie are smug about "WWE unreal is actually reality TV with scripted stuff" and then miss obvious shit like that.

>>18559198
>>18559237

>>18554735 (OP)
It do be that way

>>18559198
kek based

bawdle of wodder

>>18556879
>Stevie had a ptsd episode over it,

I don’t think Stevie has ever described a situation where he didn’t come across as the ultimate pussy. It’s easy to gather why he was never given anything close to a push.

>>18556879
So basically only listen to JC and Maven, gotcha

>>18559265
He does that there too yeah, and usually gets interrupted by Stevie.

How did Brits get such a monopoly on wrestling Youtube?

>>18561904
Brits can actually analyse things. Americans are just manchildren making numale faces, crying, screaming and shitting themselves, just like they do with Capeshit.

>>18561944
I hate Brits, but this is true

>>18561904
Brits arent able to leave their house without being stabbed or having acid thrown on them by an immigrant. So they spend all day inside making videos.

>>18561965
Americans literally get shot by niggers daily.

>>18561904
The spirit of enterprise left America a long time ago.
The British marks simply did what American marks never thought of doing: mainstream news videos focusing entirely on wrestling.
American marks got deep into the shoot interviews but the guys who do those would only sell through DVD.
And when those guys like Sean Oliver did that, Youtube didn't make enough money by comparison. It does now with all the sponsor deals you can get, and it's way less hassle than shipping DVDs or Blu-rays.
Not the case in 2010.
Add to that the fact that 2010s wrestling post-Punk was the absolute shits for a lot of fans, and the incentive to make summary content wasn't there... except in Britain where due to the dead scene, there was nothing else but the WWE to consume except New Japan.
Did lead to embarrassments though. They kayfabed outrage about Ellsworth winning the women's first MITB match for Carmella so the story wasn't going to continue, and the WWE pulled back and acted like it never happened.
That means we never got to see Nia Jax sit on Ellsworth or have any kind of fun like that happen. The marks were too upset with the heat it generated and got worked proper fucking hard, to let the story develop into Ellsworth being squashed by women, which was the goal.
Can't have a babyface cheer without a heel getting heat. They fucking failed basic wrestling consumption. Still, the only ones doing that kind of mark journo content on YouTube.

>>18555365
Yeah I just don't get why anyone would be interested in or even seek out Dutch's opinion on the latest wrestling news and happenings when it goes something like:
>Who's that?
>And what did they do again?
>And uhhh which one's that again?
>And what did you say he said?
>And he said that to who?
Like he clearly doesn't keep up in modern wrestling, know who these people are, or even care, so why would anyone care for his opinion? He just touts what his bong host says, as does Stevie.

>>18554735 (OP)
I like how he never future episodes Dutch because Dutch just says whatever he wants

>>18555365
Dutch is Jim Cornette without the gimmick. I enjoy him but yea the health issues make it hard to watch sometimes

>>18558379
This is just how Brits are. They are all woketards that by into sensation. James was talking about coming to the US but said he is terrified of being detained by TSA and locked up like this is a normal occurrence here

There's way too many of these "podcasts" these days where its some over the hill wrestler who can't go anymore so they need an income, so they see everyone else is making money on podcasts so they further oversaturate the market by doing their own podcast. Except they have no idea how to do a podcast so they get some mark to do all the technical stuff and be their "co-host" and the mark is someone who tried a podcast before and failed so they attach themselves to the wrestlers podcast to get views and act like its their podcast and hog all the attention with their opnions and essentially hijack the show. Usually its also because the wrestler does not keep up with the modern product at all and has no idea whats going on or who people are so they can't really share their opinions.

Once everyone hears their backstage stories, they have nothing.

>>18562180
The thing that annoys me is that they all seem to be too busy and too high and mighty to watch 5 hours of wrestling a week and an occasional PPV. It's almost always too much work for them. When you are doing a fucking podcast you make time. I refuse to believe Cornette has a busy life where he needs to fast forward every PPV

>>18562201
kek not even the people reporting on it can bare to sit through modern wrestling slop

The worst one is the Wrestling Bios Irish guy

>>18562234
I was told he is Indian

>>18559230
Americans say “Bahddle ahv wahddor”

>turn on a wrestling video
>hear a european accent
>click off the video

>>18562201
Its also that their opinions are usually misinformed because rather than watching the show or taking ten minutes of their time to watch a clip all their news comes from their co-host which sometimes has inherent bias.

And then it also becomes why would I want to hear the opinion of someone who's just hearing something through the grapevine and probably doesn't even know who the wrestlers in question are?

>>18562201
They're not really in it to share wrestling fandom or for insights they're there because they heard its a good money making opportunity and hopped onto that train.

Wrestlers will always be carnies by nature and absolute whores who will do anything for money its why they've all moved on from podcasts to trying to copy Maven because they saw how much bank he was making.

>>18562129
Well he is part Spanish, at least there's that fueling his fear.

>>18562492
I get it that they are in it for the money but they need to try. I don't think watching RAW every week and Smackdown and a PPV then talking about it for 2 hours is a lot of work. This averages out to about 10 hours of work a week. If it's enough to get a paycheck thats $3k a month or more that's a nice side gig or if they are old enough like Dootch enough along with social security

>>18562201
Could be that the wrestling show's just sort of, kind of, I dunno, shit.
The majority of the audience doesn't have time for it either.
People are talking about Raw having anywhere between 0,9m and 2m viewers, while a social media highlight from the same show gets over 30m views.
It's not that people don't have time either, they're doomscrolling when that shit pops up. It's that they don't wanna make time for what's basically 3 hours of slow, boring, seemingly endless, uninteresting slop, regardless of what brand's producing it.
Not a single wrestling show is captivating the audience that follows it anymore. Not for 3 hours.

>>18562578
>People are talking about Raw having anywhere between 0,9m
one guy posted a fake article that multiple journalists have asked him to verify and he has gone silent about it. Stop pretending there is any authenticity to that claim

>>18554876
As all Brits are

>>18562201
>I refuse to believe Cornette has a busy life where he needs to fast forward every PPV
He does that because he's stubborn and he doesn't wanna be proven wrong, especially by Brian. So he fast forwards things that might challenge his narrative. For example he doesn't like Asuka and plays up to it because Brian loves Asuka. And Brian keeps telling him to actually watch an Asuka match and don't judge her and Jim just fast forwards them all.

The British are the only westerners lower than Indians

>>18558401
Thats why James likes Stevie more because he aligns with his overdramatic views more also cause James can boss around Stevie easier who has lots of ideas for videos but James just tells him to save it for another video.

It's kind of frightening how often Dutch forgets a question in the middle of him answering it

>>18562663
Stevie also understands the game is all about gossip and making marks feel like they understand anything going on. Stevie is also a dimeless shitter however, Dutch has more credentials and it's obvious.

>>18556879
James is just a clickbait drama grifter. Every video he does on wrestling is negative and overdramatic. He's basically hijacked the other podcasts that he's on to promote his own shit and talks more than them. He's using Dutch and Stevie to prop himself and specifically his takes up. Then when he's posted his own Youtube video he then tries to get Stevie and Dutch to say the same thing as him (See the Bruce Prichard incident where he failed with getting Dutch to side with him) all so he can say actual wrestling figures agree with him and side with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7q_N6MirQ
Please watch this video. This guy who has never even met Bruce Prichard is trying so hard to to convnce Dutch Mantell, a man who knows Bruce personally, that Bruce is SUCH a bully and Dutch is just having none of it. The massive stink face James has because he realizes his narrative isn't working and he can't run with the "Bruce is a bully" storyline. Also general narcissistic injury of being proven wrong.

Also the way James explains it is heavily skewered and not like how the show portrays it at all:
>Bruce was staring DAGGERS at Abyss, with such contempt
>Bruce told him to his face he ruined the show.

I've noticed with James that he'll try and run with a narrative even though no other wrestling media is running that narrative, but he'll run it under all the channel that he owns to make it seem like lots of people are talking about it or its a big story.

For example nobody is talking about Bruce Prichard being a bully, except on James owned channels.

>>18556593
Stevie would be better without James. His original channel was much better before Aubrey got butthurt over him criticising AEW.

>>18562866
>>18562920
British people are hysterical twats obsessed with not thinking for themselves. When you see #metoo listen and belive male feminists it's majority British. All of them have to keep reminding you about Hogan's "troubled past". They are pathetic and just deflect to America when called out

>>18560103
I think the last Stevie video I saw was him crying for like half an hour over Ric Flair saying to AJ Styles who was hanging with Stevie "Hey AJ, stop hanging with that jobber and come hang with us!" and it was like 15 years ago or something and he still remembers it as if it was yesterday.

>>18562866
>James is just a clickbait drama grifter. Every video he does on wrestling is negative
why the fuck would it be positive

>>18562287
>>18555370
>>18556743
They all have that same dry sarcastic "IT crowd" style humor too. Just gimme my fun facts fuck the jokes.

>>18562638
if you say so ranjeet

>>18562935
All of Stevie's stories are about how wrestlers or promoters bullied him and how right to censor and BWO were the greatest factions ever and Stevie Night Heat was groundbreaking. I watched WWE when he was there and I still had no idea who he was when he started his show

>>18562944
WHO IS THE RANJEET BLOODY I FUCK YOU SIR

>>18562578
Its cause both company's rosters are overfilled with people who offer nothing other than being "good wrestlers" but don't have an entertaining gimmick or connect with a crowd but if they aren't featured on the show they get pissy on twitter. So to make room for them the shows now have to be 3+ hours so they can be on the show and have a "good match"

>>18562920
Why are you simping for bruce?

>>18562776
Yeah Stevie learned the hard way nobody cares about insight or learning or analytical videos, they care about gossip and sensationalism. Clickbait gets people to watch videos, nothing more.

>>18562948
>All of Stevie's stories are about how wrestlers or promoters bullied him
And its always a single off handed comment in jest back in 2002 or something.

It's funny Stevie is the worst person to base a show around BUT Stevie would probably be better in the James position interviewing a wrestling personality with higher cred than him. I want to see Stevie interview Dutch I bet Dutch was one of the many producers that bullied him and thought he was shit

>>18562866
He did it again this week. He tried to make it seem like WWE and the young wrestlers shit on Dutch and the other older gen. He asked Dutch if the younger wrestlers came to him for advice and Dutch said no and he framed it as younger wrestlers being jaded and Dutch corrected him that every wrestler has a producer and it's counter productive for them to talk to him and get advice when they are working with another older talent who may have a completely different plan. Dutch is great a nice guy but also doesn't tolerate bullshit and lies. He could easily play victim for clout but refuses to

Imagine getting bullied by charles robinson

>>18562935
>>18562948
>>18562984
With the Ric Flair thing, he even says in his Flair videos that Flair was perfectly nice with him every other time, except this one time Flair jokingly called him a jobber while he was probably pretty drunk. So now Flair is scorned for life by Stevie.

I don't get why Stevie didn't say something like "Oh yeah? Well this jobber can drink you under the table" and then Flair could have gotten drinks in and everything would be cool. Instead Stevie took an off handed remark too seriously.

>>18562944
Yes that’s me the mayor of London saar

>>18563003
Its cause Dutch is set money wise, so its all fun for him. James and Stevie need the views.

>>18563069
>Its cause Dutch is set money wise
I doubt this is true. He needed a go fund me when him and his wife were dying. Speaking of which that was really sus that him and his wife went to the hospital for the very same thing and they treat it like a coincidence

>>18562964
But anon, there are only 6 matches in a 3 hour show, sometimes fewer.
There may be an abundance of talent, but there's a shortage of matches.
The WWE have gotten it in their head that every match has to be a 5 star cinematic masterpiece, and needs 20 minutes and 3 false finishes to tell a 5-minute story.
It's okay to have a throwaway match while other stories are being told through commentary, most of the Attitude Era was produced that way, but no they wanna be the fucking Spielberg of sports entertainment.

>>18563556
Thats just the Triple H way, all of his matches were overly long trash.

>>18559302
bongolise die of no AC. they aren't very smart.
>>18561904
>>18561944
>>18561977
bongs have no culture and no dicks and can't read so they need to try to steal American culture because bongs just aren't smart

>>18561975
nah, that's your mom
>>18561948
bong hands typed this post

>>18564889
BBC porn, goyslop McFatfuckdonald, cuckoldry and being obese and whiney isn't culture.

>>18565163
all that shit was invented in yurop, you gay tranny retard

>>18565173
Denial as usual