Thread 18575961

> that number isn’t good because people are just rewatching the stream over and over again so it’s fake
> YouTube lies
> unfortunately that number is really disappointing for AAA

AUDIO https://youtu.be/SCjgAqOxscM?si=krlKksNnsuc9CFcW

Starts at 1:02:48

WWE lies, Google lies, TKO lies, Netflix lies but WBD tells the truth .

>>18575961 (OP)
>WWE lies
that's true, we've known this for years
>Google lies
probably
>TKO lies
definitely true
>Netflix lies
Dave has proven several times how their numbers don't make sense
>WBD tells the truth
don't think he's ever said that, they lie too

>>18575971
>Dave has proven
Dave's a liar

>>18575971
Hi Garrett , lose weight yet?

>>18575961 (OP)
>I mean, uh, y'know, uh, uh, I mean, t-that, y'know, uh, w-whatever

>>18575961 (OP)
>WBD tells the truth
LOL

>>18575961 (OP)
We need to start calling dirtsheet writers shillsheet writers. When was the last time Dave delivered any worthwhile gossip?

>>18575961 (OP)
Dave is correct, as per usual.

>>18575961 (OP)
The court case has sent him off the rails. He used to at least pretend he was being impartial, but now he's an unashamed propagandist.

>>18575971
>Dave has proven several times how their numbers don't make sense
when the fuck did he do that

>>18575961 (OP)
Dave now has proof that WWE is spamming YouTube views according to this clip. Just out of nowhere Dave just blurts this out and it sounds like pure cope. He has no proof of this and can’t prove it but damn it hes going to push it . What an absolute fucking mad man KEK

Hes really just a propagandist at this point. Anything fed related cannot possibly be successful

>>18576058
Only schizo anons who can piece together info from inference are reliable dirt dishers now.

Dave is always right.

Does Dave have dementia? Hes gotten really out there with his takes and facts the last year or so.

>>18575961 (OP)
Dave's dumb moment of the week, he doesn't even realize AAA runs the Spanish announcer version in the same numbers. Stupid ass motherfucker.
Dave fears the flutes.

>>18575961 (OP)
give the timestamp for this, I ain't gonna listen to a fucking hour of "you know, uhm , well aaa"

>>18575961 (OP)
kek his desperation has really ratcheted up the last few months

>>18575961 (OP)
The show started at 9 and ended at midnight how is that bad lmao

>>18576280
I think he’s doing his best “ I gotta stand up for the little guy” gimmick and it’s gotten out of hand . He’s literally standing up for a billionaire.

>>18576386
ITS IN THE FUCKING POST JFC

>>18575971
Go spam some more threads where you can talk to yourself and feel smart. Don't get exposed as usual in real discussions ok?

>>18576028
pure (((coincidence))) I'm sure

Can he come out and just say he works for AEW? Stop the charade of being unbiased.

I wish I wanted anything as much as e-drones want the approval of Dave Meltzer

>>18575961 (OP)
Dave hates WWE because they've exposed and made him look like the weird basement uber fan he's always been. He's never been, or will be a, "journalist". He's an autistic fan with a long, extremely long, running fan site that he turned into a full time job. Good on him for being able to do that. It doesn't mean he is a journalist. Yu can't have journalist in something like wrestling because it is a carny business, that centered on lying to its audience at its core. Dave has no sources within WWE that are of any merit or dependability. The only sources he has are in AEW because Tony talks to him about everything. He even admitted Tony discusses booking with him. Think how far away from journalism you have to be to admit that. It’s like if a guy covering UFC told you he not only hung out with Dana White but Dana also asked him for insight into making matchcards. How could you ever think that person would be unbiased towards UFC in anything they ever wrote? But Dave is so happy to finally have a seat at a table in wrestling he doesn’t care. He flaunts it and thinks it validates him.

>>18575961 (OP)
lmao fucking btfo'd

>>18575971
>there's literally no evidence to suggest Netflix is lying but their numbers deeply upset Dave so he pretends they're lying based on nothing
ftfy

>>18575961 (OP)
It's a well known fact that you have to watch a certain amount of a Youtube video for it to be counted as a view.
You can't refresh and give it a view, it doesn't work that way.
What a lying faggot lol.

>>18575961 (OP)
Does Dave know they also broadcast it on the AAA youtube channel, and had a separate spanish language broadcast on the WWE channel, and all of those views combined add up to over 2.5 milly?

>>18575961 (OP)
did he mention this was a complete sell out and and outsold grand slam? he used to go on and on about lagging indicators and everything being fine if you're selling tickets but now he's VERY concerned about youtube views at midnight ona. saturday night?

>>18577082
>did he mention this was a complete sell out and and outsold grand slam?
Of course not. Dave is an AEW shill who owns a stake in the company. He'll always say AEW is doing great when they're actually doing poorly, and claim WWE and its affiliated promotions are doing poorly when they're actually doing great.

>>18577072
Dave probably doesn't know that because he does only the bare minimum of research for what he publishes/says on his official platform, and if he did know he wouldn't care because it's more important to fed bad

>>18576028
The amount of propaganda and circular logic Dave has made up for AEW is hilarious.
>Dave did Meltzer math on a financial report from ESPN about Shad Khan and the Jaguars. He decided that AEW was valued at over 2 billion dollars. A random Forbes article quoted Dave as the source of the 2 billion claim, and now Dave claims the Forbes article is proof of AEWs valuation, even though its literally just circiling back to what he said.
>Claims 500k+ viewers in the US alone watch the live broadcast of Dynamite on Max, when Netflix's own numbers report barely 800k people across the rest of the entire world watch Smackdown over the course of a week
>Claims WWE somehow posts a fake Netflix number for Raw every week. Does his own Meltzer match again to determine the real rating. Arrives at a rating even he admits makes absolutely no sense, and cannot possibly be correct. Uses this number to prove that Raw is watched the same amount of people as Collision.
>Uses Google trend results to Meltzer math AEW PPV buys to an absurd level that even WCW and WWF at their absolute peaks in a much less volatile media environment could not even approach, with at minimum 1/3rd of all AEW viewers buying every PPV.
If anyone actually cared about wrestling, or wrestling "journalism" this dude would be mocked and ostracized to a point he wouldn't even have media credentials.

>>18577190
That first one is how wikipedia works too. It's a frustrating system.

>>18576943
F4W’s survival hinges on appealing to AEW’s fan base because it’s the only subscribers they have left. That’s why Dave so violently defends Tony Khan from even the slightest criticism.

>>18577369
I get that but it’s insane to see this level of gaslighting . These “subs” are indoctrinated into thinking that AEW is on the same level as mainstream WWE. Dave does his best to act as if he’s the “truth” into pro wrestling when in reality he does as much lying as WWE does when reporting attendance figures . For what? To cope?

>>18576954
How am I supposed to look at Dave's freakishly disgusting jew face with even more hideous mouth open and read all that shit you wrote there? Work on your presentation

>>18576019
He can't. He doesn't have any sources left in WWE. He literally just guesses about what's going on there.

>>18575961 (OP)
He's lost it

>>18575961 (OP)
this being the most watched triplemania ever is bad actually

>>18577403
Look up his youtube comments
Half of it are bots, half of it are delusional AEW trannies

>>18578650
you are coping

>>18577403
>These “subs” are indoctrinated into thinking that AEW is on the same level as mainstream WWE
AEW is better than WWE. Don't bother replying to me, because you're wrong.

>>18578659
>>18578666

yeah bro 1.3 million english speakers were totally watching AAA shows the day of before the WWE deal
AAA is finished

>>18578675
fat schizo headcanon, please go shower

>>18578742
2 millys actually

>>18578775
800k with just spics

>>18578789
Uncle Dave's cope meanwhile at 3,000

>>18575961 (OP)
damn they want this gone fuck the cult of kikeltzer and fuck woodditards BUMP

>>18578666
Kamala lost
Two genders
Smark wrestling doenst draw

>>18576029
It was real in their mind

>>18575961 (OP)
>but WBD tells the truth
They don't even tell anything! Dave just created an imaginary number and has been running with it for nearly a year

>>18578804
>I didn't watch the show
>it was very much a wwe show

the fuck is this retard talking about

>>18578813
That part.

>>18577072
Actually it's now 4 million.
WWE stream has 2 million, spanish has 1.3. That's 3.3.
Then the official AAA stream has 877K. Literally 4.17 million views. On youtube. For FREE btw.

>>18579032
Tony told dave he wasn’t allowed to watch it because konaan was mean to him

>>18579032
his way of saying he doesn't watch wwe shows

>>18575961 (OP)
Did he even bring up the HBO Mex numbers?

bitchtits samefagging as usual

>>18576019
Insider tip. These dweebs really hate it when you compare them to Apter mag writers. Maybe start calling him Dave Apter instead.

>>18579531
i've suspected the last chunks of the newsletter which are the rundowns, play by play and results of Raw and Smackdown (and other weekly shows), aren't actually written by him but by an assistant or helper

>>18579556
>18 times

>>18579569
I was right though wasn't I?

>>18579563
Garret and his fatherless friends help out

>>18579577
You’re right that you’re a shoot schizophrenic that has to defend aew and smarks at all costs

>>18579593
ok kid

>>18575961 (OP)
>*felt like* it was WAY WAY way lower than Worlds Collide
KEK
what is this guy, psychic?

>>18575961 (OP)
>i-i-i... whatever.. whatever that means.. i mean... it's not like... it's not like....it's not really, it's not necessarily...

>>18579598
Only a shoot faggot knows what the fuck that is

>>18579558
79 year old Bill Apter still speaks in complete sentences and is coherent despite being significantly older than Dave.

thread hidden. another thread where you just talk to yourself for hours.

>>18579577
Nah

>>18578813
I voted for Trump twice. I'm watching All-In Texas again right now. AEW is a better wrestling show.

>>18575961 (OP)
E-niggers in complete shambles ITT. Gotta love seeing it.

>>18578804
It’s always nice to be reminded how irrelevant dave really is

hogwheels only defense left is projection lmao

>>18579760
>160 times

>>18577050
He doesn't understand anything. His "numbers" that he gives for Netflix and HBO Max are so obviously ridiculous I don't know how he doesn't feel embarrassed.

>>18575961 (OP)
hey cult
get fucked bitches
woodditards get the fuck out of this board

>>18577190
>>18577190
>If anyone actually cared about wrestling, or wrestling "journalism" this dude would be mocked and ostracized to a point he wouldn't even have media credentials.

His career would have been done once he wrote Shibata's brain had to be removed during surgery. All of the other shit you named is literally inconsequential compared to that. How anyone ever listened to him again I have no idea. But yeah, good summary on what a joke he has become.

>>18575961 (OP)
This show was a master class. Neither of them watched it and then Dave was saying the views were botted and disappointingly low.

>>18575961 (OP)
makes sense

>>18575961 (OP)
He's right

interesting

>>18575961 (OP)
sad old man

>>18579504
Those are uh bad numbers

>>18575961 (OP)
He's right, though.

Adam Copeland's AEW YT are always doing really well and then he tanks the quarter hours in the ratings every time.

The $15 you get from these YT views aren't real.

>>18583787
show was sold out and made huge waves. stop coping and being a contrarian for once in your life.

>>18583811
>huge waves
Literally the only thing anyone is posting is le tall man and le small man

>>18583811
you know it killed dave to see AAA go into mexico city and and outdraw grand slam.

>>18583819
Oh you wanted me to post it?
Here you go, ask nicer next time

>>18575961 (OP)
Lyin' Dave

>>18575961 (OP)
>we didn’t have a pull the ref spot which I was surprised

he's such a fucking clown

>>18579558
Based

>>18579813
Your gimmick is over with me anon

>>18575961 (OP)
>that's people being counted over and over again
He's such a slimey fuck

https://twitter.com/wwe/status/1957451176603013500
>#TripleManía XXXIII, @luchalibreaaa's largest annual event, became the most-viewed and highest-grossing TripleManía in event history!
>Streamed globally on WWE and AAA’s YouTube channels in Spanish and English, the broadcast has been watched by more than 4.3 million viewers in the first 24 hours and hit a peak live concurrent audience of 614,000!
Meltzer math bros…let’s break out the pocket calculators

>>18585242
BUT BUT BUT DAVE SAID!!!

>>18577190
Based effort post

>>18577369
Well also the 3% of AEW he owns

>>18575961 (OP)
True

Dave WON

>>18585242
let me guess, "viewers" is actually the view count
the live viewership is also down from world's collide
overall, NXT Mexico was a failure, i'm afraid
>>18585532
>blindly regurgitates WWE press releases
lmao low iq jeets man

>>18577190
>He decided that AEW was valued at over 2 billion dollars. A random Forbes article quoted Dave as the source of the 2 billion claim
Stopped reading here because anyone who isn't a drooling retard knows Mike Ozanian came up with the 2 billion minimum evaluation for AEW.
The fact that this common knowledge escapes you makes it clear you won't write anything worth reading.

Study and get back to me.

He made them oink

>magoo just reviewed a show he didn't watch
>said there wasn't a ref pull out spot during AAAmania

he's lost it

>>18587788
based

>>18575961 (OP)
Big Daddy Dave

>>18575961 (OP)
Kek

>>18575961 (OP)
what an idiot

>>18575961 (OP)
everything meltzer says the opposite is true so kurt angle has the most 5 star matches

he got sources

>>18593641
yeah, ANONYMOUS SOURCES LMAAAOOOOO

Dave Meltzer is facing some legal issues from what I'm hearing.

>wwe numbers posted by Netflix
>AAA numbers back up by Google
>AEW numbers... we got mathematicians Chico!