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Previous >>18566841

Poopa Pooemura fucking suuuuucks

Kill Gedo
Shittiest booker on the planet

Kek what a dead fucking company

It's a beautiful thing watching a triply contracted wrestler win the G1. NJPW is a land of opportunity that does not discriminate.

>>18579016 (OP)
This thread needs to stop with the seething. Takeshita is gonna win and then a young lion like Tsuji defeats him at WK and we move on to the new generation. Just bear through it, it's not that bad.

>a young lion like Tsuji
lol, lmao.

>>18579047
>Tsuji
Fuck you bitch, it's gonna be Uemura.

>>18579016 (OP)
GRIM. I doubt the humble wolf and yuto-ice can save njpw

>>18579047
Tsuji failed. Its time to move on.

>>18579053
Holy shit you faggot, I don't fucking care who it is. It could be Oiwa. They could move Fujita to the Heavyweight division for all I care. Just push someone from the new generation that isn't signed to AEW.

>>18579047
We said the exact same shit of Zack's reign, then of Goto's reign. The "young lion" is totally next, bro!

>>18579070
Nah, it will be Uemura because I said so.

>>18579070
What's that? You want Shingo Takagi and Taichi to be the next IWGP World Heavyweight champions?

Highlight moment of the G1 Climax tournament was seeing the former Ace pass the mantle of Shin Ace to the next generation on August 1st.

Highlight match was Oiwa vs Uemura proving who the Kings of Reiwa are.

>>18579070
MJF will be the next IWGP champion. The title will change hands on an AEW show.

>>18579086
Nah, Oiwa did it better. Oh and then Tanahashi big leagued Tsuji the following night. Kek.

>>18579016 (OP)
oh my god, that forbidden door card....it's fucking terrible. this is what happens when you take two shitty bookers and put them together. you get this mess.

At this point EVIL will be a champ again before any of the new guys get it lol
Gedo wants them to wash more old socks first

I like Takeshita I don't care what you guys say.

>>18579072
It was going to be Shota last year but then they got cold feet about it because it would've been a disaster and the crowd would've hated it and ruined his coronation moment, so this is the second take

The Uemurafag fucking pisses me off. Stop being so fucking cocky.

>>18579097
When they had Tsuji getting all cocky at the press conference and telling Tanahashi, "Leave Shin Nihon to me" I knew Tsuji was getting kwab'd by Tanahashi.

The PLAP poster got under his skin so bad. I bet nobody even dislikes Uemura in this thread but it is so funny watching him seethe, kek.

>>18579113
What's this? A poster who actually watches NJPW instead of just shitposting his fantasy booking nonsense? Get the fuck outta here.

>>18579099
forbidden door is completely booked by tony and rocky romero. that is why house of torture never gets booked. if gedo had any say in the matter then evil would be wrestling on forbidden door every year.

She's right, you know

>>18579086
based uemurachad

why is shotageek turning on uemura now btw? i thought tsuji was the one he hated

The Dojo system is hurting new Japan.
The Junior division is bullshit too. Time to let it go. Fujita, Despy and Hiromu should be competing in the G1.

I understand the principle of not liking a part timer winning the G1… but it’s fucking Konosuke Takeshita, one of the best wrestlers we’ve ever seen in his prime. He’s the exception you make.

I will win the G1 Climax 36.

>>18579140
ok fair enough, that one isn't on gedo i guess

>>18579142
I don't remember Shota Umino defeating Shota Umino in the G1.

>>18579151
This. They need to get rid of the Junior division at this point. There is so much good, loyal New Japan talent there that just gets wasted and does nothing during the G1 season. What's the point anyways? Twinks like Darby Allin are beating heavyweights like Powerhouse Hobbs over in AEW. Nobody believes in weight classes anymore in pro wrestling.

>>18579142
>wow look guys
>just hear me out now
>shota won some matches this year
>but he lost some matches this year too!!
>can you fucking believe this guys?
>gedo is such a shit booker

Why didn't they listen to him?

This is the real Forbidden Door.

*dinga dinga dinga dinga*
E!
*dinga dinga dinga dinga*
L!
*dinga dinga dinga dinga*
P!
*dinga dinga dinga dinga*
CMON HEADBANGA

>>18579202
>Michinosuke Takashita

>>18579194
He knew what was coming. Harold. i'm sorry

Shota should jusht win all the matshesh. Then everyone will love him and want to kish him. Shin nihon ashe, baby.

>>18579212
based elp fanboy
all this talk of new gen this, young lions that
meanwhile our tv champ elp had a based g1

>>18579175
You just provided the perfect example for why weight divisions SHOULD be enforced. Why would anyone want to see a 90 pound twink beat a 300 pound powerhouse? A fluke win out of nowhere is fine but making it a regular event just cheapens the event.

If a junior wants to compete with the heavyweights they just need to graduate. Plenty of NJ juniors stepped up... Hase, Takada, Otani, Omega, Ibushi, and Ospreay did it. Ishimori and Hiromu can't, and that's fine.

>>18579221
I'll remember this and post the same kind of shit when Yuya gets the same booking as Shota because it's their idea of getting a babyface over.

>>18579232
I love it when he interacts with dumb little Japanese kids in the crowd. They look so confused everytime he interacts with him. They always happen to be little girls too. Why is that?

>>18579233
90 pound twinks shouldn't be wrestlers. But as it stands right now, guys like Naito and Narita could easily pass off as Junior Heavyweights while guys like Fujita can easily pass off as Heavyweights. They are not real weight divisions, it's a gimmick. Wouldn't you rather have Fujita or Hiromu compete in the G1 over shitters like Newman? It's a waste of loyal, hard-working, dimes New Japan talent. This is why the open weight division exists. They can transition Juniors to heavyweights anytime they wish. And they did so too in this tournament....with Drilla Moloney. So they are basically doing what I want them to do but they are doing it with dimless shitters like Drilla instead of based panty droppers like Fujita.

Drilla is good but he wrestled in NXT UK half a decade ago, I literally can't forgive him.

>>18579274
No, fuck off retard. I would rather take AEW shitters in my G1 than have my precious Junior division be disturbed. Hase, Takada, Otani. I know these names. You don't. You know nothing. Fuck off. Why are you even here?

>>18579287
This is why everyone calls you mentally ill and then you cry about samefagging. Fuck off then. Enjoy when Kevin Knight gets to compete in the G1 instead of Fujita.

>>18579295
We don't want the likes of you in our thread.

>>18579241
Tsuji lost to Kidd, Taichi, Tanahashi and Finlay. And he lost to EVIL three times this year,

Still far more over than Shota, the bitch.

>>18579308
Shota has a motherfuckin bike and he is badass. His mentor is Jon DEATHRIDER Moxley.

>>18579295
Kevin Knight is based and I hope he wins the G1 in 2027.

C-Can Tony-sama please lend us Okada senshu for one night in the Tokyo Dome? I was told that I should be happy that Okada chose AEW over WWE because that means he will still get to compete in New Japan...

>>18579150
Uemura's existence is an existential threat to Shota's success

>>18579355
Who told you that? We signed Okada. He's ours now. What makes you think that we will just give him to you for free? We gave you Takeshita. You should be thanking us. Instead, you and your Nujamals are crying about it. No, you are not getting Okada back, you ungrateful little fucks.

Shota and Narita have scored pinfall victories over Zack. They are ahead in the official rankings.

Few things truly are BADASS. There's me, the Shotataker.

>>18579274
I'm the guy you asked the question of, don't pay any attention to the resident schizo that responded to your post with gibberish.

I can see the logic of dissolving weight divisions when you lay it out like that... but the fact that the division has become less a rule, and more a gimmick is more of a problem in my eyes than "wasted" talent in the juniors. Newman is a little twink, he shouldn't be in the G1 period. Would I rather Despy or Fujita compete over Newman? Yes, absolutely but even better keep Newman out and invite a heavyweight from NOAH or AJPW or something. Just a guest heavyweight that can spice things up like they did in past.

Despy is the only junior right now that I could see competing in the heavyweight division... and that's more to do with his style, versatility and age.

Plus, if you do away with weight divisions you lose the Best of the Super Juniors tournament, which has proven to be an evergreen event for NJPW.

>>18579393
Yep. Right now the official ranking are
1. Tsuji
2. Shota
3. Narita
4. Uemura
5. Boltin
Both Tsuji and Shota made the playoffs so they are ahead. Tsuji beat Shota so he is ahead of him. Narita beat Shota but Shota was protected in his loss and Narita failed to make the playoffs. But he is ahead of Uemura because he beat Zack.

>>18579420
Makes sense. That's a good ranking list. You made decent arguments too.

>>18579370
Uemura has been booked far worse than the Reiwa Three and he's getting over despite it. He's an existential threat to Shota fags, Tsuji schizos, and Narita... fan(?). What's even funnier is that Oiwa is rocketing past them as well but they don't even know it yet.

>>18574348
Let's see the English NJPW fans reaction to takesoup

https://x.com/njpwworld/status/1957095070341152805

>Congratulations is posted 5x
>King of the world
>well deserved
>This guy is on fire
>Savior :flamingemoji:
>Let's go, here comes the next IWGP World Champion
>G1 Climax? Looks more like Continental Classic Japan
>I have mixed feelings about this but maybe next year somebody like Tsuji , Umino, Uemura, Kidd or somebody like this wins
>RIP #NJPW... AEW stole all your wrestler and they dont let you push anyone new.

>>18579432
Tsujichad here, I'm one of the people that have been called a "Tsujischizo" by Shotageeks and I agree with you.
Yuya has been consistently great for over a year now and he only keeps getting more over. He's the real deal and could very well overtake Tsuji.
No ill will between us, Uemurabro. We may have different favorites, but at the end of the day, we should unite over making fun of Shotageeks and their flop of a geek instead of arguing over our differences. May the best man win.

>>18579420
>invite a heavyweight from NOAH or AJPW or something. Just a guest heavyweight that can spice things up like they did in past.
Not a fan of this after what they did to Kaito Kiyomiya. They had freakin Hikuleo advance over Kaito. It maybe a different story if they get someone freelancer who wrestles for multiple companies. You are also missing my original point. Talented wrestlers like Fujita shouldn't be confined to the Junior division and be wasted doing nothing during the G1 tour. In that case, they could even have one of the G1 qualifier matches be full of Junior Heavyweight division every year. All I'm saying is that they have some really good talent on their roster that they are not using in the G1 and they are not in a position where they can afford to do that anymore.

>>18579464
Meant for >>18579405

>>18579448
>>Congratulations is posted 5x
>>King of the world
>>well deserved
>>This guy is on fire
>>Savior :flamingemoji:
>>Let's go, here comes the next IWGP World Champion
So they fucking love him? They are happy about Takeshita winning the G1? Thought so.

>>18579484
Japanese fans are not happy.

>>18579493
They were cheering for Takeshita. They were going crazy when he beat EVIL. Stop lying. I know you didn't even watch the match.

>>18579451
Nice, I wouldn't expect anyone to recognize my posts but, despite the harsh label for Tsuji fans in my previous post, I don't he's a failure like Shota.

I just think he's been the victim of inconsistent booking and saddled with a seemingly dormant faction. When it became apparent that Naito and BUSHI were leaving they should have done... something with Tsuji. Have him "jump the line" and take over LiJ or have him forced into a second-in-command role under Shingo. Create tension and build to the obvious betrayal. Instead Gedo did... nothing, and now LiJ is not really a thing and Tsuji has no real faction. In a lot of ways Narita is in a similar, albeit worse, situation. His faction is active but he's just an underling with no purpose in a faction led by a weak leader.

The Reiwa Muskateers were selected poorly. Shota was given every chance to succeed, even a main even at the dome but the response from fans domestic and abroad has been abysmal.

It might sound heretical but NJPW needs Four Pillars: Tsuji, Uemura, Oiwa, and Narita.

Gonna buy myself the special 1 million yen seats. Fuck you poorfags. Keep bickering about your retarded schizo nonsense while I enjoy New Japan Pro Wrestling like a gigachad.

>18579505
>hide post and replies
Lmao Oiwa ain't even getting a singles match at the dome.

>EVIL isn't actually evil, The House is, and the match with Takeshita basically outright told Gedo - there is massive money in HOT kicking him out and turning EVIL face. When EVIL gets going and becomes just a head-knocking strike/powerhouse hybrid, he is ridiculously fun to watch. If executed properly, this could be one of those well-remembered moments/turns that legit makes the crowd upset, especially if HOT go out of their way to really beat the shit out of EVIL, maybe even make him bleed or break his leg, idk.

>EVIL has a Crow Sting-esque run just waiting to happen, and if anyone in the company should be a loner tweener without any allegiances it's him. "5 years as a Young Lion, 5 years in LIJ, 5 years in The House - now I wanna finally be on my own", and you're off to the races. Periodically, the announcers have mentioned EVIL's real name on commentary, so I don't know if he'd go back to that, but I imagine not since he's been EVIL for a decade now and the name is iconic.

>The man is about to be 39 in a few months, so he is basically in his prime years. Invest into him wisely, and turn him soon-ish, so that we can get 4-5 years of still physically capable but even more over than he was before EVIL putting on hoss bangers in the upper card/main event!

>>18579534
The entirety of r/njpw seems to be celebrating Takeshita's victory. They are even praising EVIL. Only this one mentally ill faggot in our threads cannot shut the fuck up about Takeshita.

>>18579517
>1 million yen
are they really that expensive?

>>18579594
Expensive? That is just chump change to me. NJPW is great. It is the best wrestling on the planet and it is so much cheaper than WWE and gAyEW.

>>18579464
Fujita might not be doing much during the G1 Climax but he was the star of the BOSJ tournament... and all the heavyweights were sitting on the sidelines. That's the way it's always been. Wouldn't you rather see Fujita headline the BOSJ tournament rather than eat 12 losses in the G1 finishing at the bottom of his division? That's what usually happens when juniors competed in the past, Takaiwa was BOSJ champ and he finished his G1 with 1 point. Minoru Tanaka went winless in 2001. Even Liger had a pathetic showing in 2006.

What they did to Kaito was cruel and unprecedented. Nobody wants that. If you look further back in the history of the G1 you'll find much better showings from Japanese outsiders like Tenryu, Akiyama, Kawada, Sugiura, Shiozaki, Marufuji, Nakajima, etc.

I know it annoys the resident schizo when I mention names from the past but there's a solid history of Japanese outsiders "invading" and spicing up the G1... without being absolutely gaped like Kiyomiya or, worse, this year with an outsider winning.

>>18579567
Are you suggesting we follow the whims and fancies of Reddit?

>>18579672
nah you are

>>18579672
I'm EffingKENTA, the PLAP PLAP PLAP poster.

>>18579644
Keep following tradition and keep looking to the past. You will get swept up the changes in this new wrestling world. "That's the way it always has been" is the most dangerous way of thinking in the current New Japan system. Change is needed. You don't get it.

>>18579567
reddit lives don't matter and neither do their opinions.

>>18579672
Rocky Romero reads r/njpw to gauge what the western fanbase of New Japan is saying. I'm not even shitposting btw. I'm the only insider who reads these threads on 4chan.

>>18579725
Really? Anyone would think that they read Twitter and Youtube comments.

>>18579725
that explains a lot lol

>>18579567
it's one schizo in here. i thought the match and result was fucking great

>>18579725
If you are an insider then tell me what is the Wrestle Kingdom main event this year?

>>18579769
As of right now, Takeshita vs Umino. That is the plan. I don't know when they are planning to have Zack drop the belt to Takeshita. That partly depends on AEW's schedule too so I believe even NJPW doesn't know when it will happen right now. But the current plan is to have Takeshita walk in with the IWGP at Wrestle Kingdom and have Shota challenge him like he did this year.

>>18579769
Gedo & Tony Khan vs The Fans

>>18579786
screencapping this

>>18579796
Honestly I hope the plan changes. Maybe when they have Takeshita and Umino face off against each other and the audience boos them both, then they will reconsider.

>>18579786
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>18579786
Umino flopped in the main event this year, so it sounds plausible that the geniuses at NJPW would try the same stupid shit a second time.

>>18579786
What is the plan for Uemura?

>>18579819
There is no plan for Uemura (that I know of). Just multiple ideas being thrown against the wall like spaghetti.

>>18579833
holy kek

>>18579833
Damn... very plausible.

If I had to guess it'll be some heatless tag match with Sanada.

>>18579786
will they have takeshita defend the title in "eliminator matches" on dynamite and collision again?

>>18579886
I don't work for AEW so I would not know this. Before you ask, no. Tony Khan did not consult New Japan before booking his eliminator matches during the Moxley IWGP reign. He is free to book whatever on his show, including hot-potatoing the title if he wants to. New Japan just needs Takeshita walking in as the IWGP heavyweight champion at the Tokyo Dome.

>>18579911
holy fucking grim

>>18579911
Lmfao yeah right

>Book Take as a heel for the tournament
>Turn him face for the finals
>Turn him back to heel for WK
Gedo has gone insane

>>18579786
So they think this will get Shota over by beating the AEW outsider Takeshita?

>>18579911
You took the larp just a step too far. Next time just omit the nonsense about "hot-potatoing" the title.

>>18579202
>that trio on the right
>for a show in the Osaka version of Shinkiba
Kinda depressing

>>18580004
https://youtu.be/gmRiHoPbw58?t=33
Why are you acting like this is something unbelievable?
>>18580018
Obviously that was a hyperbole because I was pissed at the question about AEW's booking. I don't know why anyone would think that AEW wouldn't book the IWGP title in eliminator matches against their midcard talent. You don't need an insider to tell you that.

>>18580018
kek cant wait for them to hot-potato the iwgp title on dynamite so that you have something else to complain about in these threads
thats the next goal after you said that there is no way takeshita wont be winning the g1

>>18580090
True. I posted that Takeshita was winning the G1 in these threads before the tournament started but this guy mocked me saying there is no way that would happen and then he started mocking me even further by pretending to be the insider himself. I just talk Japanese wrestling on this board occassionally so I don't know how to check the old threads but you guys can probably go and check them if you want.

>>18580108
Ignore him, he has mental issues. We appreciate your insight in these threads.

What's the Japs saying about this final? Are they mad about the Korean winning?

>>18580142
They're not pleased. Attendance numbers compared to last year reflect this as well.

IT'S OSKAR LEUBE

>>18580142
Nothing but positive comments and positive reaction in the Youtube comments.
https://youtu.be/MzVpu1vufsw
But you are free to meme and shitpost about the non-existent negative reaction all you want.

>>18580166
kek. Bet they're shitting on Tiny Tony even though Gedo and Bushiroad have greenlit the whole thing.

>>18580142
See
>>18574348
>>18574646
>>18574723

>>18580190
That's typical Jap behavior though, isn't it? Not say anything nasty on any place where they're not being hidden. As soon as they have a bit of anonymity or are behind closed doors, the nice face comes off.

Final was so weird. Felt like they almost had a disaster on their hands early on, crowd was reaction all over the place throughout but they got cooking halfway and I got sucked in on the home stretch.

>>18580108
i remember
our schizo hates you because you work for njpw and he doesnt
he wants to be the booker of njpw so bad

>>18580209
>go to NOAH.
Wait till they find out that it's just as shitty now.

>>18580172
kek

>>18580190
The top comment with the most replies and most thumbs up translates to "I wish EVIL had won."

The rest of the comments are indeed generally more positive than the comments on 5ch

>>18580218
He is very obnoxious. But an internet fan who obsesses over New Japan's booking to this degree has got to be this kind of person. This is why wrestling companies should not trust internet fans.

>>18580253
that is not a negative reaction

>>18580004
>>18580057
even if some fans boo takeshita for being an outsider, they will just use that as a part of the storyline to work the fans

Oskar and Nakashima got no reaction at all. What a dimeless debut. No one knew who they were. Grimola.

>>18580190
>so desperate for positivity for his narrative he goes to Youtube comments

>>18580328
I'll have you know Reddit also adored the G1 Climax final!

>>18580328
You are mocking Youtube comments but then you post 5ch reactions?

>>18579194
SAVE US MEIJ SAMA

>>18580371
nonononono
you see
those 5ch anons are our BROTHERS
its totally not me shitposting and spamming in those threads too

>>18580383
What stupidity...I don't need any narrative. Obviously Youtube and Twitter comments matter more to a company that 4ch or 5ch. It's common sense.

>>18580371
Twitter is more indicative than youtube. 5ch is funny

>>18580383
Holy cope

>>18580371
I don't post them but no fucking retard takes Youtube comments seriously.

>>18580400
5ch are our brothers tho

>the only way to put shota over is giving the G1 to an AEW midcarder
Gedo is a genius.

>>18580412
>>18580406
>>18580405
When your hikikomori brothers in imageboards buy tickets to our shows, then you can let us know about it. Until then Twitter and Youtube are more important platforms.

>>18580412
They would gladly see us all dead lmao they hate westerners

Guys, just ignore the declining attendance and fan disinterest. This is a GOLDEN AGE of NJPW. Wrestling has NEVER been better and that's the bottom line because Stone Cold Meltz said so!

Business is down everywhere, not just NJPW.

If theyre retarded enough to lean on Youtube comments to cope about their decisions then no wonder they're sinking. Maybe they should've listened to those people when they unified the belts 4 years ago lol

>>18580446
Every single other notable group's business is either stable or going up. You people can't even lie convincingly.

how do I get into Rizin

>>18580446
Stardom is up despite losing its stars lol
Cause they actually push their people, something Gedo is too incompetent to do

Shota doesn't count cause he's a bitch

>>18580469
They have a streaming service. I'm a subscriber and I like it. They have English commentary too.

>>18580292
they waited to long to debut them
also they should have oskar compete in singles
tag team is dimeless
tag team scene should be used for old shitters like taichi sanada tanahashi ishii and bishamon

guys i need help quick
bret hart just asked me who the best wrestlers are in current new japan
he wants to watch their matches
what do i tell him

>>18580473
Okada wouldn't let Willow Nightingale or Atgena in the 5 star much less book one of them to win it

>>18580541
Show him Takeshita vs Shingo with the English commentary.

>>18580541
Yuya vs Oiwa obviously

>>18580541
Show him Oiwa vs Uemura with the Japanese commentary.

>>18580541
Show him SANADA vs EVIL with no commentary.

>>18580541
Show him Nakajima vs Endo and tell him it's a New Japan match

>>18580541
Show him Okada vs Kenny from All In Texas

>>18579016 (OP)
Okada was IWGP champion 4 times at age 29

Yota Tsuji is 31.

>>18580615
Tsuji started late. Age is irrelevant. Tsuji is 31 and Narita is what, 27 or 28? They are on the same level.

>>18580541
Show him any Takeshita match and tell him that Takeshita is the reincarnation of his dead brother, Owen.

>>18580626
Tsuji is almost a 10 year wrestling veteran, bro. He's kind of past being a "young prospect"

>>18580642
I am just saying that he was in the same class as Narita and Umino and they haven't won the world title either. No point in comparing them to Okada who was the handpicked golden boy of NJPW.

>>18580541
He'll love it!

>>18580437
a lot of redditors say this

I WANT MORE TOYS
GIVE ME MORE TOYS
LET MY TOYS BEAT YOUR TOYS
MY TOYS ARE STRONGER
BOW DOWN BITCH
I'M SAVING WRESTLING BITCH

>>18580676
>buries New Japan while looking at a 6k house in Tokyo Dome
>Liger half-shoot buries his promo for not knowing how to promo for a massive venue like that, he takes hit to heart and works on it
Based Kenoh

Tony is going to kill NJPW before he kills Ring Of Honor

Inoki died
Tana lied
Jamals cried

shota umino fucking sucks

shota umino fucking rules

>>18580845
Finally somebody makes sense in this thread! Shota Umino is a little nep bitch.

Is it safe to say Tana's retirement run is worse than Cena's now? At least Cena attempted a heel turn, Tana's just wrestling his homegrown no-names

>>18580867
He's going to main event the Tokyo Dome, have a banger with Takeshita and you will cry about it.

JEONG MOSQUE LI

>>18580879
Why would I be bothered by that? I don't care about Takeshita either, so I'll just shut off WK before the main event. Do you actually cry about wrestling matches?

>>18579016 (OP)
>Forbidden Door
>barely any NJPW talent
What did Tony mean by this?

>>18580874
both are bad.

>>18580874
People actually know who John Cena is. Even in Japan, more Japanese people know of John Cena than they do about TanaWHOhashi.

>>18581249
It's hard to get fresh NJPW talent when you gut and steal most of them for yourself

KonoSUGOI Takeshita

>>18581249
still not booking ebiru the clown of darkness

they took coughlin's black tank top and gave it to oskar

>>18579517
>1 million yen seats
What's that, like $159 USD?

>>18579150
??? I'm "Shotageek" and I love Uemura. It's Tsujischizo that is sperging out ya fucking retard

>>18581454
Shut up. I know you are the PLAP poster.

>>18581466
I'm not the PLAP poster ya fucking retard but I thought he was funny and I loved how he got ya bubblin' and seethin'

>>18581466
kek
the plap poster mindraped ya so bad
you are gonna see the plap poster on this board everywhere now

>>18581466
You're getting trolled hard, pal. By the way, no idea why some guy just replied to you pretending to be me, kek.

My Reiwa list is basically Uemura > Gabe = Oiwa > Tsuji > Shota > Narita

>>18581485
Careful, next he is gonna say that you're my samefag.

>>18581466
AEW, Tony Khan and Rocky Romero PLAP PLAP PLAP'd New Japan. What's wrong with speaking out the truth? You got PLAP'd by AEW.

cant wait for aew grand slam japan

>>18580489
Am I safe there from fighters getting poached?

>>18581655
kek hell no, real fighters chase the money and aren't retarded

>>18579016 (OP)
I can't think
Bad TV and other people's lives
On the Instagram and Facebook feeds
Got me
Fatigued
Another night holed up inside
So we hit the streets
And walked around
Routes we've run in
To the ground
A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE

>Boooooooooo we want EVIL
Kinda funny how this isn't a meme and actually happened

>>18580437
>Imagine thinking that Meltzer has actually watched NJPW in the past 3 years

>Only guy from the younger generation with a win over of Takeshita this year in you're path
Shota "Back-to-back Dome main events" Umino

>[New Japan] Konosuke Takeshita wins his first G1 title. Mentor Shinsuke Nakamura testifies to his boundless talent: "He still has room to grow."
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/356298

> A "top of the top" Japanese wrestler who responded to an interview praised Takeshita, saying, "He has plenty of skill, and he has physical strength that others don't have. But even so, he's still stretching himself, so I think he still has room to grow."
>He particularly praises Takeshita's aggressive attitude. "I really feel that she has her antenna up everywhere, jumping on new topics that come up in life and making them her own. She's complaining about being busy with three organizations, but she might not be able to do what she wants later even if she wants to, so she should be happy that she's in a position where she's expected to do it. She's still young and full of energy, so I think she should keep going until she overheats," he said.

cucked and cooked company

ZEE ARUPHA
KONOSUKEEEEEEE TAKEEEEESHITAAAA
*crowd cheers*

>>18582509
>She

Takeshita is a troon?

>>18582927
It's google translate, retard

>>18582927
Afraid so
>>18582954
Shut the fuck up transphobe

>>18582450
Trusht the plan

You don't like the stories Tio Rocky is writing for you?

https://www.njpw1972.com/594933
I dont feel like linking the other URLs.
All 3 Unaffiliated/WD singles matches, KOB vs Ishii/Taichi and Tanahashi vs O-Khan in Kobe.
Both Jr titles kept off yet another big show and put on the last show of the Hokkaido tour: Depsy vs YOH and TMDK vs HoT with Tanahashi vs Wato.
Tanahashi vs Nagata on the 7th.

anyway japanese njpw fans already changed the subject of their complain to the price ticket for WK they already forgot about Takeshita

Of course you have to pay for the only interesting match in a month's worth of touring

>>18583396
Fuck you, nigga

>>18583430
what a dimeless gimmick
grim

>>18583640
what a dimes gimmick*

sorry guys i had a typo

Japanese fans are not happy

>le outsider winning bad
Remember when they made Ziggler an Riddle champs?
That was actually bad

>>18583728
What a bunch of retards. They would fit in well here

>>18583816
Concidentially Tanahashi did the job to both

>>18583816
Also bad*

They cant go with Zack vs Take at the dome can they they just ran it in the semifinal? I mean its a rubber match but…who cares? One of them is losing either the belt or the briefcase right? Right????

>>18583430
>Spends one year in England
>Becomes a wigger
amazing gimmick

>>18583918
Takeshita said he wants to go into WK as champ. So it's probably ZSJ vs Takeshita at King of Pro Wrestling (or a random episode of Collision)

I would have gone with ZSJ winning again, because they have nothing else credible on the roster.
Takeshita was the second best option

>>18583959
>at King of Pro Wrestling
Kek. He thinks Takeshita won't win it at an AEW PPV

Do you think Gabe's new anti-NJPW gimmick will get over as much as his anti-AEW one did?

>>18580489
Nice. I'm going to look into that.

>>18584111
Funny how he can't even do his bullshit about Takeshita winning the G1 like he did Moxley because A. Takeshita beat and injured him, B. He's doing AEW shit now and C. He's Moxley's 2nd Yuta

If you like Kidd and you post in this thread, you're a fag.
Completely ruined his gimmick.

Do you think they're going to turn EVIL face before 2030?

>>18584531
He was shit and cringe from the beginning but njpwschizos glazed him relentlessly until he trooned out
I'M A MADMAN UNO shut the fuck up

>>18583430
njpwschizos hyped up this mongrel and the school shooter as being saviors?

Oiwa should've won the g1

>>18584716
I have not seen a single post ITT or in any NJPW thread about Oskar Leube saving anything

kek

Interessant

>>18584716
They ain't saviors but they're funny lol
The Babytaker and Guy Fieri
I hope they win the belts

Did You Know?: Zack Sabre Jr. is IWGP World Heavyweight Champion

>>18584763
The only way you could remember this post is if you made it yourself

you probably did

>>18584951
the rats...

>>18579016 (OP)
>9/28 Destruction in Kobe @ Kobe World Memorial Hall (4:00pm)
>IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship: Gabe Kidd (c) vs Shingo Takagi [5th champion, 2nd defense]
>IWGP Tag Team Championship: Taichi & Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs OSKAR & Yuto-Ice [110th champions, 1st defense]
>Yota Tsuji vs David Finlay
>Hiromu Takahashi vs Taiji Ishimori
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Great-O-Khan

>>18579016 (OP)
everything post-Forbidden Door announced so far:

9/7 Blue Justice XVI @ Togane Arena (4:00pm)
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Kinship~: Yuji Nagata vs Hiroshi Tanahashi

>Road to DESTRUCTION
9/9 Fujisanmesse (6:30pm)
9/10 Mainichi Kogyo Arena Kuki (6:30pm)

9/12 Shinnichi-Champion presents @ Korakuen Hall (6:30pm)
>Generation Crash: Ryusuke Taguchi, Taichi, Tomohiro Ishii, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs Kosei Fujita, Ryohei Oiwa, Yuya Uemura, & Shota Umino

9/13 Korakuen Hall (6:30pm)
>NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Championship: Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano (c) vs Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi [31st champions, 1st defense]

>Battle Line Hokkaido
9/15 Nippon Engineering College Hokkaido College Gymnasium Arena (4:00pm)
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Kinship~ 2/3 Falls Trio/Tag/Singles Match: Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Tomoaki Honma, Togi Makabe, & Toru Yano

9/17 Recruit Staffing RICK&SUE Asahikawa Gymnasium (6:30pm)
9/18 Kitami-city Sport Center (6:30pm)
9/20 Yakumo-city General Gymnasium (3:00pm)
9/21 Kuriyama Town Sports Center (4:00pm)
9/22 Yotsuba Arena Tokachi (6:30pm)

9/24 Kitagas Arena Sapporo 46 (6:30pm)
>IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: El Desperado (c) vs YOH [98th champion, 8th defense]
>IWGP Junior Tag Team Championship: DOUKI & SHO (c) vs Kosei Fujita & Robbie Eagles [79th champions, 2nd defense]
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Master Wato

9/28 Destruction in Kobe @ Kobe World Memorial Hall (4:00pm)
>IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship: Gabe Kidd (c) vs Shingo Takagi [5th champion, 2nd defense]
>IWGP Tag Team Championship: Taichi & Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs OSKAR & Yuto-Ice [110th champions, 1st defense]
>Yota Tsuji vs David Finlay
>Hiromu Takahashi vs Taiji Ishimori
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Great-O-Khan

>>18584758
wasn't expecting Taiga Saejima and Guy Fieri as the newest War Dog members

Tony is pissed that Takeshita had to face EVIL in the finals, ZSJ vs Takeshita was originally going to happen on the Destruction in Kobe show but now it's going to happen on the post Forbidden Door Collision.

>>18585499
When is the date for King of Pro Wrestling gonna be announced? Im in Japan in Mid Oct and want to attend if I can

kek nujamal is a raped slave promotion

I'm a AEW fan first and foremost so I support this decision 100%. Tony knows what's best for wrestling.

Who is Yota Tsuji jobbing to at Forbidden Door?

>>18586033
Probably Jerry Garcia or Maxwell Jewstein.

>>18585592
Should be any day now. All the dates for the following tour have been announced so I'm not sure what the hold up is.

>>18586013
An already cursed shirt now has even more value as a weird relic

This company is so pathetic I don't know really know what else to say anymore, so uhh...yeah...Trannyhashi, Gaped Klitt, grim, all that...

>>18586868
Perhaps you'd like to leave and never come back?

>>18586887
I'll stay just for you.

>>18586916
You'll stay because you have nowhere else to go. Even a community that relentlessly bullies you is better than none at all.

You're a whipped, buck-broken faggot and /njpw/'s official bitch.
Now get on your knees, you fucking slug, and act as a footrest for superior Shin Nihon appreciators.

Y’all are working some weird gimmicks in this thread, forgive me I do not understand your culture

>>18586959
They're just mentally ill

>>18582312
What do you mean? He's an international superstars and Japanese fans are grateful to have him in their promotion.

>>18586941
kek say that without crying now ya AEW ass penetrated bitch, you'll see Shin Nihon die slowly and I'll be here laughing at you all bunch a weak geeks

>>18586989
Oh? But as a true Shin Nihon supporter, I appreciate the AEW partnership and support the designs of my president, the 1 in 100 Generation Ace of the Universe Tanahashi Hiroshi.

I root for AEW wrestlers in NJPW and am happy to support them. I trust the plan, like a true fan.
Gambare, AEW wrestlers!

>>18585430
if they lose to these dorks on their first defense i’m going to rip that old fucker gedo’s beard off his face
>>18586959
i don’t think half of the people who post here know the culture either

>>18587004
THIS!

>>18584951
Uh oh

>Yuto Ice
more like
>Yuto Diners, Drive-Ins, & Dives

errthing do be grim yall

>>18587878
fuck you doomer schizo bitch. I love AEW and New Japan. It's good that they're working together. EVIL sucks dick and isn't even half the wrestler Takeshita

Not one of you pussy nerds crying about this has said why Takeshita winning is bad or bad booking or bad.

Uhhh uhhh uhh well you see the yen is down so people don't have as much spending cash as they used to

>those Wrestle Kingdom ticket prices
What the fuck are they thinking?

Do they want Tanahashi's retirement to have like 5,000 fans show up?

>Tana retiring
>Olympian debuting
>Great TV spot
I swear if this shit doesn't outdraw Muto's retirement then nothing will

>>18588002
>Why is it bad that an AEW contracted wrestler win something super prestigious and important to NJPW?
Yea that hasn't fucked them over before...

>>18588130
This shit is not outdrawing Muto's retirement with those prices. By definition, outdrawing means more tickets sold.
Now, is it outprofiting it? If it reaches 30k people, it almost certainly did. For comparison, the priciest tickets for Muto's retirement were less than half the price.

>>18588046
>outdrawn by a fucking coughy G1
holy fucking G.R.I.M

>>18588140
How new are you?

>>18588002
It's bad because they had better options
It's bad because fans are tired of the Reiwa gen getting snubbed
It's bad because Takeshita is being treated like a nepobaby

>>18579016 (OP)
Why did they join the Poop Dick Wrestling show!?
WHY!?
Make it make sense
how did they not know it was going to end badly
anyone with half a brain knew this was gonna happen!

>>18588182
Shota is a very lucky SEX HAVER.

>>18588169
Mutoh is far more mainstream and famous than Tanahashi and he could draw what, barely 30k?

I don't see Tanahashi's retirement outdrawing Mutoh at all

>>18588379
Capitalism.

Meaning: the Bushiroad suits saw the short-term gains of Tony Khan giving them 1 million USD gates and payouts for the partnership and didn't give two shits about any lasting damage done to the promotion, which they are eager to get rid of and sell anyway, even if it's devalued significantly.

They probably believe they can make Khan vastly overpay for its worth because he's such a mark.
From a ruthless Japanese salaryman point of view, it makes perfect sense. However, as a NJPW fan, it is excruciating.

>>18579082
>You want Shingo Takagi and Taichi to be the next IWGP World Heavyweight champions?
both are better than takeapoop

>>18588436
Kidani knows this as well since he is selling his stocks >>18584951

>>18588439
Better at what? Takeshita has worldwide reach and these two only have domestic reach. They're not on the same level.

I’m seeing a lot of comments down here that seem to have a knowledge of NJPW without either having been to a show or following what their pricing tends to look like. There’s nothing wrong with not knowing, but the confident incorrectness is what it is.

Japanese ticket sales are done through distributors that don’t have fluctuating prices. WWE’s ticket prices are insane, and they’re only made more insane by Ticketmaster or StubHub fees, surge pricing, resale vendors cranking the prices, whatever. Japan doesn’t have that. You buy a ticket in a specific section and get what you get from there, with the prices varying by section. For example, I got a floor seat for Wrestle Kingdom 17 for 80 bucks, and ended up about ten rows back in an aisle seat, giving me an amazing view for shit like Omega vs. Ospreay. Front row seats for that show were a few hundred bucks, and came with a lot of merch and photo ops and what have you. It was SHOCKINGLY cheap compared to the States.

So, these tickets seem out of left field, right? Well, until you see that these Tanahashi tickets are not “front row seats” in the traditional sense. The front row seats are WAY cheaper. These are literally within the fencing, and come with whatever bonus goods they throw in (usually worth hundreds of dollars by themselves). There’ll probably only be five or six of the things for sale. Are they worth 7 grand? No, of course not. It’s a greedy number. But NJPW (and Japanese promotions in general) have a lot of old, nostalgic fans that pay the bills for the company, and there will ABSOLUTELY be a few die-hard Tanahashi fans past retirement age who have money to spend and would gladly spend it on this. Hell, if I had a few million bucks lying around, I’d go for it because it’s fucking Tanahashi, and he’s arguably the greatest to ever do it and I love him.

Because of that, the price for these seats are not at all attached to how hot the product is. They’re attached to people’s love of Tanahashi. He’s worshipped by countless fans there, and the people with the kind of income to afford these seats WILL buy them. Many probably won’t know who most of the roster is, they’ll just want to see Tanahashi’s last match. It’s why Muto’s retirement moved so many seats, or why retirees get the largest pops at puro shows when they show up. This’ll be the same thing.


This is not a normal thing for them to do. Pricing like this is not why the product is going downhill or why ticket sales are declining, lmao. Every year before this, you can easily get a decent seat at the Dome for like fifty bucks. If the rest of the ticket prices go up exponentially I’ll be the first to say I was wrong, but nothing NJPW’s done has reflected the potential for that as of yet. These are unique. Seats priced at 7k are not representative of how shit usually is, and anybody who says otherwise is just plainly wrong, so to say it’s the cause of anything is laughable. It’s not like WWE ticket pricing where you gotta donate a kidney to get in the door, or hell, even to get in the front row. This is just for the deeply devoted Tanahashi fans who are multimillionaires and want the super stupid VIP treatment.

Japanese wrestling fans with money to spend are predominantly fucking old, so this sort of move is honestly the best business decision NJPW’s made in a long time, even if I’m not a fan of milking their supporters dry

>>18588456
Takeshita's arms must be too short to make use of that worldwide reach 'cause he just headlined an absolutely pitifully drawing G1 finals, down from the previous year (which was also poor), and got out-popped by EVIL.

>>18584905
Yeah it's totally not because I searched oskar leube in the archive

>>18588426
You're right, then WK should only need around 25k people to profit more than the Mutoh show did.
Again, the prices here are insane. This is "Whale hunting" territory.

>>18588683
>So, these tickets seem out of left field, right? Well, until you see that these Tanahashi tickets are not “front row seats” in the traditional sense. The front row seats are WAY cheaper.
Explain why last year you could buy Royal Seat, 1st Row (with special benefits) tickets, which cost $1,353.90, but this year there are no Royal Seat 1st Row tickets, and instead, replacing them are Hiroshi Tanahashi Retirement Special Seats, which cost $6,769.50

The Royal Seat, 2nd Row (with special benefits) seats are still there, just like they were last year. Except last year they cost $812.34 and this year they cost $2,369.32. Same is true of 3rd Row. $372.32 last year. $1,353.90 this year.

>>18588810
Pathetic

I will sell my family into slavery to serve Bushioad and support New Japan Pro Wrestling.

>>18588810
If Takeshita is basically full-time in Japan during this, I have no complaints

>>18588820
1,350 is not bad but 6,769 is quite a jewish tactic

>>18588820
Good god

>>18588666
grim

>>18588854
Remember when people said this about Kenny's US title reign and Mox's IWGP title reign and FTR's tag team title reign?

>>18590034
Yes we remember. They were in Japan the whole time and had great matches and people loved it. Actually, New Japan fans begged for them to come back. Everything was amazing, okay ?

what's next for the Shit Storm ?

>>18590210
NOOOOO STOP CALLING HIM THAT HE SHOULD HAVE WON THE G1 AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

>>18590034
None of the guys you mentioned were under dual contracts. They were both full time AEW wrestlers.

>>18590210
iwgp heavy tag team championship

>>18588854
My only cope is that I believe Tony is such a mark that he'll allow it.

>>18579142
Shota will probably be one of those late bloomers. Not saying he'll be like Naito or something, but even people like Yoshi-Hashi finally got his own fanbase.

>>18579274
Honestly they should do what ELP and Omega did when they moved up to heavyweight. Any Jr who wants to move up needs to put on some muscle. It's why I could never see why people want Hiromu to compete in heavyweight matches, how he looks is fine for the Jr division, but if you're competing against Goto, could it look like you maybe hit the gym?

>>18590210
>>18590248
It's very clear when it's the "anti-fan" poster who hates everything in NJPW and just trolls these threads to doompost (because he's mad /puro/ is dead constantly and TJPW loses to Stardom)

There is 0 reason to dislike Uemura right now so it's really a reach and just transparent trolling tbhfam

>>18591687
Is this the same as pole schizo? Or is it a different schizo like tsujischizo?

next >>18591870

>>18591785
All the same guy