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What are your unpopular wrestling takes?

Personally, I think Steve Austin's heel run was the best work of his career, even if it did bad for business. Because you have this guy at the top of the industry and instead of celebrating he's turned into the paranoid king, afraid that everyone is coming to kill him, and it's too much for him to bear mentally.

>>18579717 (OP)
I think Simp Cuck never drew a single dime without Vince or bigger stars Rock and HHH lol

>>18579720
I think you are quite le ignorant about mr cold here

>>18579720
Tsmt. Vince was the draw, and Austin was just the stand-in for the working dads

>>18579717 (OP)
He was very entertaining during that run

>>18579717 (OP)
WCW losing the war had nothing to do with bad politics or booking, and everything to do with the fact that the entire WCW roster together couldn’t match thr charisma and star power of Austin and The Rock.

If anything, WCW lost when they fired Austin before the war even really happened.

>>18579717 (OP)
Zoey Stark is attractive

>>18579720
>I think Simp Cuck never drew a single dime
Tell me you're a zoomer retard without telling me you're a zoomer retard
Before Vince entered the picture
>Austin getting massive pops
>Austin 3:16 shirts everywhere
>Austin signs all over the arena
>at Summerslam 97 when Owen broke Austin's neck, wrestlers were not just worried if Steve was ok, they were worried because they knew he was the next THE GUY

>>18579720
Austin single-handedly sold millions of Austin 3:16 t-shirts by cutting one promo. Every kid in school was wearing one in the late 1990s. You don’t have the slightest clue what you’re talking about.

>>18579717 (OP)
This has been my hot take since 01 as it was happening. The biggest problems with it was 1.) there wasn't a hot babyface for him to face. Austin/Taker was ran so many times already.
2.) the invasion angle took place during it with That leads me into my actual hot take...

The Invasion storyline wouldn't have worked even if everyone was available. If anything it would have been an even bigger trainwreck with all the egos involved. It was also 2001 not 97/98 anymore.

Buddy is cool.

>>18580072
yeah, Rogers was one of the all time greats.

the lame attempts at comedy with Austin, Angle and Vince were just cringe and unfunny.
most of WWE's attempts at humor have been painfully unfunny. DX. Santino Marella. The Boogeyman. R-Truth. Hornswoggle/midgets. none of that shit ever made me laugh once.

>>18579717 (OP)
There should more focus on finding and training writers for the weekly shows. Possibly even training former wrestlers so they could write stuff that makes sense. That's probably more useful than starting up a zillion wrestling schools. People like Ed Kosky, Brian Gewirtz, Jeremy Borash, Ryan Ward were just as essential in shaping up the landscape of pro wrestling that we love as the agents and the head bookers. The disgustingly cynical -for WWE- and directionless (as in requiring a director with a vision to steer the clusterfuck) -for AEW- feel of the weekly shows is one of the main reasons why I cannot stand watching them anymore.
It also doesn't help that both TK and HHH are utter tastelets. No sensibility for quality production whatsover. Just brainless business major minded BS. And people wonder why the masses find this shit to be so unappealing.

>>18579918
Watching her be princess carried when she got injured in her last match made my dick twitch unironically. She might look surprisingly good in a dress.

>>18579717 (OP)
>What are your unpopular wrestling takes?
Shane Douglas could have been the next Hulk Hogan, but he made every enemy that you don't want to make in the business.

>>18580385
He's the definition of small fish in a little pond. He's perfectly okay at everything but he's not star material in a major company which is why he only succeeded in bingo hall promotions. For some reason he has a massive ego over it as if he ever achieved anything

>>18580435
>you will never see her bashfully asking her how she looks in her dress and eyes lighting up and cheeks blushing when you say how pretty she is
FUCK

>>18579717 (OP)
Why didn't they book him like this?
>WHAT?
I said Why didn't they book him like this?

>>18580532
Like what?

>>18579717 (OP)
women's wrestling has been better than men's wrestling for like 2 years now

>>18579720
>or bigger stars Rock and HHH
>and HHH
'sup Paul

>>18580410
>He's the definition of small fish in a little pond.
the phrase is "big fish in a little pond", Rakesh

>>18579764
anon you are adorable

>>18580435
This is fine because it's a low res image from far away but she looks like a frog brother. She's cute and all but I don't see the appeal other than the "she's facially of low attractiveness which means I find her attainable."

>>18580228
i think hhh doesn't watch anything but wrestling and has no creative spark

>>18579717 (OP)
NXT is shit and it makes sense they're competing with slop like aew when they're both full of blacks, women and trannies

>>18580689
>me when I'm retarded

This match is kino and Brock is a kino champ

>>18579717 (OP)
I don’t like Ric Flair’s matches.

>>18580704
It's okay to be into ugly girls, anon. I am too, sometimes.

>>18580939
>me when I'm retarded

>>18579720
Simp Cuck mark always seethe whenever people drop this truth nuke. Paul outdraw him in 2002, Hogan big league him in the same year, "The Guy" and "The biggest draw in the business" my ass, this bald bitch is a joke.

Goldberg killed WCW and had change the channel heat from day 1

>>18580974
>me when I'm retarded

>>18579720
>>18580974
These aren't "takes" they're just factually untrue

Wrestling died when Ole Anderson retired in 1990.

>>18580974
Goldberg was WCW’s cash cow you doofus.

>>18579717 (OP)
Giulia is a good wrestler

>>18581024
For exactly one year and then never again. I don't agree with that anon, he was definitely white hot, but Goldberg winning the world title is kind of the start of the end for WCW because they've painted themselves into a corner, and what happens afterwards with the belt is infamous

Goldberg was the last wrestler to make wrestling look real. all of his matches had the Big Fight Feel and he was the last wrestler to have that aura about him.

>>18580974
Saw a construction guy with an original WCW Goldberg shirt on last year. There’s just no way kek

>>18580228
Paul and TK are a tasteless geek with zero idea is the real problem.

>>18581043
i still have all my old classic Goldberg shirts from the late 90s and still wear them
most of the wrestling i have are Goldberg shirts.
and in fact most of the wrestling shirts I have seen in real life (on other people and in stores) were of Goldberg
Goldberg's t-shirts sales don't get talked about enough. people always talk about Austin, NWO and DX but I've seen way more Goldberg than all of those combined

>>18579717 (OP)
Austin joining Vince and Kurt was extremely bad
Austin joining with the Alliance was peak segments

False finishes fucking suck. Every overrated match or "instant classic" of the last 10 years is full of them. Its lazy, cheap, unskilled, and talentless. "OMG HE KICKED OUT AGAIN!!!" fucking chimp brained marks. This shit didnt happen when America was majority white.

NJPW was never good.
the only good Japanese wrestling was AJPW in the 90s and NOAH in the 00s before Misawa died. there hasn't been any good wrestling in japan since misawa died.
and just in general, japanese wrestling is majorly overrated especially by americans.

>>18581040
lesnar came after

>>18581232
>This shit didnt happen when America was majority white.
Does this nigga not know?

>>18580690
That's very obvious. Vince balanced that issue out through his inherent weirdness. Pauletty is just plain

>>18579927
>>18579960
>there are people still getting worked by the simpcuckschizo

>>18581342
It's not a work if it's a shoot.

Nothing happened in 1992

Foley sucks and killed Daffney

>>18581424
Foley flanderized himself with his stunts and now everyone only knows him as the fat retard that jumped off of shit, when he was one of the most compelling promo guys ever because he had such an unique style of promo that no one else has really matched

Roman Reigns is still a shitter

>>18581442
After he quit WWE the first time he never was the same. Always trying to catch the old fire with Cactus Jack and it always goes cold after, not to mention his book shilling started soon after.

>>18581266
what about him? lesnar's a joke. one of the worst wwe ever pushed as top guy.
very fake, predictable and choreographed compared to Goldberg.
watch the 3 matches Goldberg did in japan in between his wcw and wwf runs. lesnar doesn't have any matches like that.

Shawn Michaels was not a credible or believable champion in 1996 primarily because his challengers were all big monsters that realistically HBK had no business beating.
Diesel, British Bulldog, Goldust, Mankind, Vader and Sycho Sid were all too big physically to lose to HBK.
at least the Mankind match was just a DQ but still that hurt Mankind a lot coming off of beating Undertaker in multiple PPVs (at a time when nobody would beat Taker).
what hurt WrestleMania 13 so much was nobody believed Sid had a chance against Taker after seeing Sid lose to HBK of all people. a giant losing to HBK is career death.

>>18580228
Investing in the writing team is the most undertapped thing in wrestling.

>>18580228
Man this post is a lot like WWE's creative direction. Potential to be good, wounds up being shit and retarded.
>>18581880
They're looking for people with experience in hollywood. Is that not investing?

>>18581745
hbk cheated to beat sid tho

>>18579717 (OP)
It was funny in bits true

>>18579720
>a decade of failing to get it over
other than the absolute state of your life,this is your biggest L carter

>>18579717 (OP)
Agreed

>>18582201
Turning hollywood writers into wrestling writers is like trying to turn models into wrestlers.

>>18583485
So a good thing then