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Anonymous No.18598011 >>18598014 >>18598061 >>18598965 >>18598983 >>18598986 >>18600951 >>18601010 >>18601246 >>18601403 >>18601696 >>18601700 >>18602137 >>18602393 >>18602442
He's right
Anonymous No.18598014 >>18601700
>>18598011 (OP)
TRVTHNVKE
Anonymous No.18598015 >>18598025
This man has never watched a NJPW show in his life
Anonymous No.18598025 >>18600991
>>18598015
Neither have most AEW fans www
Anonymous No.18598044 >>18598110 >>18599365 >>18601204 >>18601662
The Elite, jay white, jericho were all leaving anyway. okada was probably off to wwe with his mate nakamura there. ospreay is the only one they stole.
Anonymous No.18598061
>>18598011 (OP)
It's okay when m'Tony does it.
Anonymous No.18598110 >>18598974 >>18599014 >>18601700
>>18598044
>They were already going!!11!!
This and MUH COVID really need to stop. AEW is a disease.
Anonymous No.18598965
>>18598011 (OP)
DAve Meltzer? Raped and Gaped
Anonymous No.18598974
>>18598110
>NNNOOOOOO!!!! I FINNA NEED TO CHERRY PICK TO BLAME ONE SINGULAR GROUP OR INDIVIDUAL! REEEE!!!
Anonymous No.18598983 >>18601700
>>18598011 (OP)
that part
Anonymous No.18598986 >>18601700
>>18598011 (OP)
it really do be like that
Anonymous No.18599014 >>18599049 >>18599102
>>18598110
Putting the belt on Evil during Covid is was a disaster. Going with Sanada was even worse. Anyone who posts in these threads and doesn't remind people of what a laughingstock the company became when they redesigned the belt is also delusional or was never a fan. AEW didn't tell Gedo to book Russofied run-in horseshit for all the main events either. The last decent main event New Japan had was Bryan vs Okada,and that's thanks to AEW, fraid so
Anonymous No.18599049 >>18599099
>>18599014
Evil had the world title for like a month you fucking moron.
Anonymous No.18599085 >>18599142
It died here.
Anonymous No.18599099 >>18599110
>>18599049
2 months. And that's all it takes for people to lose interest. Also, like I said, retard, Sanada was even worse. ZSJ is also a total failure in that role. Bad booking, end of story.
Anonymous No.18599102
>>18599014
you know what? They do need the old belt back. that winged one looks like some goddamn power rangers shit
Anonymous No.18599110 >>18599141
>>18599099
bad booking is the main problem i think, but tony will steal anyone that gets over and that's a problem too. as soon as Gabe got over a little bit Tony snatched him up immediately.
Anonymous No.18599141 >>18602461
>>18599110
>snatched him up immediately.
He had 3 matches with AEW in a whole year, two of them tags and most on the B and C shows lel
Anonymous No.18599142 >>18601293
>>18599085
out of everyone signed to that company how did jack fucking perry get the treatment that he did
Anonymous No.18599365 >>18599380
>>18598044
This but also the fucking fed offering better deals killed the UK indie scene but AEW doing the same to NJPW is business.
Anonymous No.18599380 >>18599394
>>18599365
>killed the UK indie scene
No, it didn't.
Why do you cultists have to bring WWE in when we're talking about how fucking horrific AEW has been for wrestling?
Anonymous No.18599394
>>18599380
I am being ironic, I agree with you.
Anonymous No.18600951
>>18598011 (OP)
NJPW is dead and Tony killed it.
Anonymous No.18600991
>>18598025
Anonymous No.18601010
>>18598011 (OP)
Anonymous No.18601016
anon you're siding with an unironically pajeet third worlder
You're better than this
ProWresBlog !1JPtDnh8WA No.18601120
Yep. AEW also took Rosa, Eddie and Starks from the NWA.

And this comes after AEW fans went all in on NXT UK for supposed poaching, even though every wrestler involved in NXT UK were all indy wrestlers.

I have no idea where AEW will get talent going forward. NJPW is out of stars to take. WWE's got AAA and TNA. WWE's also getting their hands on indy wrestlers early. AEW can never really fully take someone from CMLL or CMLL will stop working for them.
ProWresBlog !1JPtDnh8WA No.18601197 >>18601234
Yep. AEW also took Rosa, Eddie and Starks from the NWA and Takeshita from DDT, further making that promotion unwatchable.

And this comes after AEW fans went all in on NXT UK for supposed poaching, even though every wrestler involved in NXT UK were all indy wrestlers.

I have no idea where AEW will get talent going forward. They refuse to make their own stars and don't train rookies. NJPW is out of stars to take. WWE's got AAA and TNA plus WWE ID. AEW can never really fully take someone from CMLL or CMLL will stop working for them.
Anonymous No.18601204 >>18601216 >>18602113
>>18598044
>jay white
pls let this be true, when is his contract up? I can't stand how that dogshit fucking company has killed his career
Anonymous No.18601216
>>18601204
>Gets injured every time he comes back
Jay white screwed Jay White anon
Anonymous No.18601222 >>18601252
>AEW killed the Indies!!!
This is like when people blamed wwe for killing the UK scene. No the indies are just shit
Anonymous No.18601234
>>18601197
Come to think of it, All Debut Wrestling hasn’t had a big debut in awhile for any cheap pops. They also have given up on “big announcements” from Tonican. This promotion is lumbering on but there’s little left to hotshot since there are no compelling angles aside from booking shows in a Del Taco.
Anonymous No.18601246 >>18602466
>>18598011 (OP)
OK, so here is a more objective, non console warring response to this situation: A lot of the wrestlers who jumped ship say they did it for the pay, and not particularly because they particularly believed in AEW, it's well known that the Yen isn't worth shit these days, and its value keeps plummeting, and Japanese salaries in general, not just in wrestling haven't changed much since the 90s, so for someone like Tomohiro Ishii, jobbing on Collision probably pays more than being a champion in Japan (he is also a dimeless bitch, but that's besides the point), so now you have Japanese stars like Okada who could have signed with either company ("allured" by WWE or choose the paycheck in AEW) and he chose to get payed absurd money, and that is fine.
Now here is where things start getting more interesting, booking! Tony is know to have objected to having his wrestlers lose outside of AEW, which is fine, you gotta protect your workers, but he has held other people's belts hostage in the process, particularly with Stardom and NJPW, which is bad business, I honestly don't know anymore what NJPW can benefit from partnering up with AEW, they were a decently niche in the US and the biggest and most celebrated promotion in Japan, now they have destroyed their reputation with fans and with their target audience.
Anonymous No.18601252
>>18601222
You could say AEW and WWE killed the indies in tandem over the 2019 competition and spending spree on talent. But in reality no one wants to work the indies because it's terrible. It's like a guy saying his goal in life is to keep playing single A baseball when an man team calls them up
Anonymous No.18601281
Sure, but that was going to happen when a company launches that has money behind it. Good for the dudes that are making bank, but for lower level talent working their way up it's terrible because there's less places to work now.
Anonymous No.18601293
>>18599142
nepo baby
Anonymous No.18601403 >>18601573 >>18601596
>>18598011 (OP)
NJPW's popularity was unsustainable.

>Omega Okada 1 got western fans interested
>Bullet Club and BTE kept their interest
>Hype dies down a bit during Omega's run
>Bucks, Omega, Jericho leave for AEW
>Pandemic devastates all of wrestling
>NJPW starts to recover with Osperay, but he KWAB's himself
>All top stars are washed
>Butterfly belt
>Young Lions too young to be believable main eventers
>AEW steals smart spotlight
>WWE gets less shit
>NJPW was nothing interesting or unique
>AEW poaches talent
>Still no new stars
>Put the belt on ZSJ
(Zach's fine, but he is one of the most boring wrestlers out there. Making him do 30+ minute Tokyo Dome main events would kill any company)

AEW definitely contributed to the downfall. Some of it was inevitable, as the top guys were going to have to retire eventually. The pandemic and bad booking also didn't help. It's a shared responsibility, but I'd give AEW at least 40% of the blame. Taking Osperay, Okada, Takeshita, and Jay White really fucked them up.
Anonymous No.18601573
>>18601403
I was saying all the way back in 2017 that NJPW will have no roster because every wrestler was sawdusting themselves every night. That era was kino, probably the best quality-wise in wrestling history, but none of those guys would've be able to work at that level for long no matter what company they're in.
Anonymous No.18601596
>>18601403
>Hype dies down a bit during Omega's run
This wouldnt be the last time
Anonymous No.18601662 >>18601707
>>18598044
The Elite at the time to NJPW was basically just losing Omega. The Bucks were barely out of the Jr Tag division and basically everyone else was a lower midcarder or a journeyman with no “loyalty” to the company.

Did Jay ever indicate an intention to leave NJPW prior to AEW becoming a viable alternative to WWE?

Jericho was never going to be in NJPW long term, not do I believe NJPW ever utilised him intending as such
Anonymous No.18601664
Both New Japan themselves and Tony Khan killed New Japan. New Japan shooting themselves in the foot for keep relying on gaijins instead of creating local stars and signing local talents. Tony Khan in other hand keep poaching New Japan top talents and doesn't compensation them with by sending more AEW talents that Tony have no plans or even sending their young talents like Hook and Nick Wayne to a year excursion without Tony Khan's leash
Anonymous No.18601696
>>18598011 (OP)
Hey, remember when John Moxley beat Naito clean in Chicago for the IWGP World Title? That was a fun little romp.

The funny part was NJPW trying to treat AEW like they treated ROH and that shit flew for exactly one show. After that, Tony has been raping Japan. Although I bet Mexico wishes Tony would've raped them harder so they wouldn't have to watch Vikingo flippy shit his way to a world title. HDV is as unpopular as a Mega champ in 2025 as Rey Mysterio was as WHC in 2006. With a title like Mega, people want a grown man or at least a white guy like the best Mega champs, Jeff Jarrett and Kenny Omega.
Anonymous No.18601700
>>18598011 (OP)
>>18598014
samefag
and the post on twitter was made by this fag too
this is the next level of samefagging
posting pictures your own tweets on 4chan and then agreeing with them
you can even call this "super samefagging 2"
>>18598110
>>18598983
>>18598986
and this is go even further beyond
necrobumping your own thread with more samefagging
you can call this "super samefagging 3"
Anonymous No.18601707
>>18601662
jay was talking to wwe before they put a hiring freeze on and then he had to go to aew. he's been injured most of his run. desu i get the feeling he's using any excuse to avoid bumps until his contract runs out.
Anonymous No.18602113
>>18601204
you moron, anon meant from NJPW.
Anonymous No.18602137
>>18598011 (OP)
No lied detected. Apologize to Harold
Anonymous No.18602393
>>18598011 (OP)
all fact
Anonymous No.18602442 >>18602462
>>18598011 (OP)
TNA’s biggest rating in the past 5 years was when Kenny first appeared there.
Anonymous No.18602461
>>18599141
He's clearly been poached anon. Its the exact same thing that happened with Ospreay. Hes been appearing more on AEW shows since his Kenny match and has been put in an AEW faction. Tony has offered him a contract when his current NJPW one ends. If you can't see that then you are willfully blind
Anonymous No.18602462 >>18602616
>>18602442
>trying to pretend like TNA benefited from partnering with AEW
KEK. AEW's partnership with TNA was such a disaster that TNA is out for revenge and literally wants to kill them by running Impact head to head with Dynamite.
Anonymous No.18602466
>>18601246
>stardom belts
Which belts did they capture? I know mercedes was iwgp but I think she dropped that before she signed, the strong belt isn't really a stardom belt either
Anonymous No.18602616
>>18602462
How can you measure it when the partnership was during covid when there were no crowds?