Thread 18614158

The Lyra Valkyria hate has really gotten out of hand

It’s really opened up my eyes as to how dumb this community can be. These porn-infested idiots are literally trying to tell me that she’s undeserving because she’s boring and she’s not hot enough

First of all, even if she isn’t hot (which I disagree with since she’s absolutely beautiful), how the hell is that supposed to be an important factor?

Second of all, she isn’t boring. On the mic, she’s proven she can hold her own. Her promos may not be intense, but she still does a great job at making you believe what she’s saying. Plus, she was able to get the crowd on her side while in a promo battle with Becky Lynch. COME ON!

And don’t even dare think to say that she isn’t a good wrestler, because you’re making yourself look ridiculous.

Lyra isn’t boring. Lyra isn’t undeserving.

She’s a great promo, she’s a great wrestler, and she looks absolutely stunning!

TO THE END WITH BIRD LADY!!

>>18614158 (OP)
She's ugly. She sucks as a wrestler. She doesn't know how to cut a promo. She doesn't know how to have a character. She has no personality. She cannot connect with fans. She let the company down with every opportunity they've handed her on a silver platter. She is an embarrassment on the biggest stages. She is a complete and utter failure

>>18614158 (OP)
If Stevie Richards doesn't like her, then I don't so there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoiABJ-Fo0Y&t=327s

>>18614212
Stevie Richard’s is a bullied bitch. No wonder he hates her kek.

>>18614212
Raven has always been right about this pencilnecked geek

I still really want to know why this bitch was pushed so hard at a time when WWE never had such level of talent on the women roster
she's basically a pure product of the worst years of the performance center
sucks at every aspect of wrestling, no character work, no emotions, no logic in match planning, no connection with the crowd.
She was picked because she does what she's told.
complete blank canvas on which WWE thought they could hang whatever they wanted but she's so plain nothing sticks.
At the same time as somebody in the office is giving her basically a year long megapush to no fucking effect whatsoever, WWE hires Vaquer, who gets over in 30 seconds and got incredible momentum out of NXT, only for it to get stalled to death because half of RAW has to be about Lyra, and now Becky
They've got like 10 women in NXT who could have done wonders with such a push. They got international recruits like Vaquer or Giulia who could have made magic with such an opportunity.
They've got a ready-made dimes program between Iyo and Rhea that they could have had run this whole time instead.
But somebody seems dead set on not using any of these people to their full potential and push this and Charles instead

>>18614398
>sucks at every aspect of wrestling
I'm really not interested in your opinions when you're so incredibly wrong.

>>18614398
Why are you acting like Lyra is everywhere and has feuds every week? She’s had the same feud with two people for months.

>>18614420
Feel free to put forward any argument to prove it
She can do movez, somewhat. So what lol
No character work in ring, no emotion during matches. No selling, and I really can't stress how fucking awful she is at that.
Dead in the fucking water.

>>18614439
I'm afraid we love Lyra here

>>18614425
On every single Raw and PPV.
Bad faith Lyrats

>>18614456
>character on a show appears in multiple episodes to advance storylines, something that only applies to Lyra

>>18614456
>months of judgment day and bloodline
>months of Rhea interrupting and backstage stuff
>but it’s bad because Lyra is on tv with the same two people

>>18614464
Yeah, she got a megapush, was featured heavily on every Raw and PPV for months and got nowhere
Tough shit I know

>>18614474
Yeah it's bad cause literally none of these storylines drew as much silence

>>18614482
>megapush
She won a midcard belt and held it a few months

>>18614495
was featured heavily on every Raw and PPV for months = megapush
Count how many people have that opportunity

>>18614500
Okay, and people were really into those matches so I don't see what the problem was. Like half of my favorite women's matches so far this year were Lyra matches. You can insist she's not over all you are want, and pretend that she doesn't consistently get woos during her entrance and this is awesome chants during her matches, but it won't make it true.

>>18614521
>people were really into those matches
Goddamn, the level of delusion bro, yeah sure, that's why she's dead in the water and not over
Look at literally any Vaquer match and listen to the noise
Look at any Iyo/Rhea bout
Listen to the pop they get when they just appear at the start or for a single throwaway line.
These women are over. Lyra isn't.

I don’t understand the issue. Most of the women gets tv time aside from shitters like michin and Bfab. Hell I’m sure Nia has gotten more tv time and she’s back to feuding with a champ. Are you just mad they're preparing a big belt chase story for Stephanie? I don’t understand. Doesn’t Chelsea get on tv every week with her dimeless fat friend?

>>18614542
Yeah you don't understand, that much is certain

>>18614540
Iyo Rhea and Stephanie are main eventers. Iyo and Rhea have been in the company for a longer time and have always had more tv time than anyone. Why are you acting like having bigger reactions from them is a disservice to Lyra? She’s in the midcard now.

>>18614550
Hopefully down in the lowercard where she belongs until she can reinvent herself. Convenient that you ignore Vaquer for your "but they were here longer" argument, because you know damn well it's not about that at all.
Lyra doesn't connect. Nobody cares why she's here, nobody cares about her story, personal or kayfabe.

>>18614540
>Lyra isn't over because other women are more over
I don't understand why people enjoying Lyra matches makes you so angry.

>>18614561
>Lyra doesn't connect. Nobody cares why she's here, nobody cares about her story, personal or kayfabe.
I love how you spend hours arguing on a forum trying to convince people who like Lyra that no one likes Lyra.

>>18614562
The only thing that slightly inconveniences me is having to do switch off when she shows up and the sheer bad faith her simps put into defending her mediocre work
I get it, she's cute and looks vulnerable, but she sucks.

>>18614571
Well am I glad you enjoy the show, what can I say
Good news is I don't really consider you as people

>>18614574
>STOP LIKING LYRA
>NO! STOP CHANTING THIS IS AWESOME!

>>18614561
I didn’t ignore her. I told you they’re prepping her for a main event storyline presumably with iyo and Stephanie. They’re just figuring things out with Naomi and the damage control stuff.
>>18614542

>>18614592
Alright, we're already at the part where you shit this up, fuck off

>>18614594
I meant iyo and Rhea but whatever.

These people don't exist. They're WWE secret agents trying to trick people into thinking people love Lyra.

>>18614594
None of the people you listed were featured half as prominently. Bitch had a whole segment dedicated to her little storyline every single week, on every PPV, uninterrupted, unpaused, for months. For no results.
Vaquer is the opposite, clawed her way to WWE at her peak, is undeniably over, yet can't get an actual push so far because there's no screentime left after all the bullshit. Lyra was spotted early, nursed and developed by the fed and went nowhere. Her push was a consequence of that position, and her failure is an indictment of the PC
Hopefully they learn lessons from this

>>18614562
People aren't enjoying her matches. You are. Everyone else thinks she's a complete waste of time.

>>18614191
Lyra sympathizers are really about to act like this match plus the build doesn't sum up that Bayly nor Becky couldn't get her over. Don't do that, Don't ignore it, don't act like it doesn't exist, that match just happened a month ago.

Plus Becky is a better champion and Becky was right.

>>18614641
>For no results.
For really good matches and for a direction for Bayley's character.

>>18614648
You're so mad lol

>>18614641
Having a segment a week doesn’t mean anything. Stephanie was in nxt for like less than a year. They have hopes for her and she’s obviously getting a push after they figure out the Rhea iyo stuff. You’re being retarded on purpose. Lyra is in the midcard and has to appear a lot because Becky and Bayley are 40 years old and the midcard for women on the main roster suck besides Chelsea who depends on her character work because her in ring isn’t that good and Ivy.

>>18614651
Oh please
The matches are unengaging because of everything I described, no selling, no character work, barely any emotion, no expressions, it's dreadful. The pacing is off, she looks lost all the time even when she isn't. What the fuck am I missing?

>>18614663
You're missing the fact that she has really good matches that the crowd gets very into.

>>18614663
You're not missing anything. Literally every wrestler with a podcast thinks she's terrible but somehow they're all wrong because this retarded anon likes this dumpy birbgirl.

>>18614677
Oh man the guy who’s business failed and the guy who cried about being bullied in the locker room :(

>>18614677
Imagine outsourcing your brain to somebody's podcast

>>18614660
>Having a segment a week doesn’t mean anything
Actually yeah it does, especially when it always and long, and fucking long man.
The point of a wrestling show is to get people over, have the audience care about who they are, and their issues, and their stories, and why they're here, and why there gonna fight that guy, and why we should care. All of that was a failure for Lyra. Brought no fans, elevated nobody.
Give that screentime to any top woman in NXT, or Vaquer, give them the chance to explain who she is, where she's from, why she got there, and why we should care about her beating everybody, see what happens.
What's retarded on purpose is to keep pushing somebody who doesn't connect whatsoever with the audience.

>>18614693
Because we love Lyra, even though it makes you upset

Lyrafag is begging for attention kek

>>18614693
Please stop pretending Lyra isn’t over. She is. Becky and Bayley did their jobs.
>people need to explain who Stephanie is
No they don’t lmao. They see a sexy Latina woman who’s incredible at her job. They don’t need any vignettes or interviews. They know who she was even before nxt. The one good thing about the horse beating her.

>>18614677
That part

Lyra smells like pee

>>18614721
>>18614748
Kek I accept your concession now. Will bump the other threads.

>>18614732
I'm not pretending, nobody cares. The match at summerslam was surreal and the utter silence was well deserved.
Vaquer interviews or vignettes would have been a much better use of that time. Let alone matches, goddamn
>oh we have megastars, let's use them sparingly and plaster the shitters all over the product, why is it so cold compared to last year? Yeet

Here's an interesting factoid for ya, this thread about this ugly but h reached 50 posts ,with no gay spam yet
Coincidence? I think not
Lyratroons are a fucking cancer

Ahem! I have decided that no one likes Lyra. If you guys would stop talking about how much you like Lyra, I'd really appreciate it, because it makes me look insane when I spend hours a day asserting something that is obviously false.

Thank you!

>>18614827
Go spam gay porn faggot

>>18614805
>why is it so cold compared to last year?
You have no metrics to back this up.

>>18614847
Then you have no metrics to pretend your favorite shitter is over lmao piss off

>>18614819
Good morning sir!

>>18614827
BOOOOOOOOO

Tell Lyra to do something interesting dude

>>18614858
There's one typo fag, show us your list of open tabs

>>18614851
Actually I would probably point to the tremendous crowd reactions during her entrances and matches.

>>18614870
Saar?!

>>18614748
Lmao

>>18614871
Surely you can direct me to a compilation of those

>>18614884
I'd highly recommend either the gauntlet tag match with Bayley, or the Backlash match with Becky, which are two of the most excellent matches of the whole year.

Lyratroons spam gay porn on the board to push their ugly cunt lol

>>18614893
She got decent reactions twice in this whole push? And somehow this is good? Goddamn

>>18614914
Do you expect me to give you an entire list of matches? Those are two of my favorites, although she's been consistently having the match of the night all year. She's been the workhorse of the women's division. I enjoy her very much even without your permission believe it or not.

>>18614930
You can enjoy her all you want as long as you realize that you're literally the only one, can't describe a single objective quality about her work and have to live in a fantasy where she's the star of the show when she gets no pop
Basically you're free to do as you want as long as you stop spamming your damn lies (and gay porn)

>>18614943
I like Lyra.

>>18614956
Yeah you're in love with her and it's sad and cringe

>>18614963
That’s ironic coming from you my Asian loving bug friend.

>>18614943
When the audience chants this is awesome during her matches, do you cover your ears because it upsets you?

>>18614966
I'm not fonder of asians than any other ethnicity and I'm not your friend

>>18614977
>still pretending
Whatever helps.

>>18614973
I heard that chant once on one of her matches, I was not paying attention for the no doubt dozens and dozens of times it happened right?

>>18614992
I'm sure you picked up a beef with every schizo waifufag around, keep trying to pick and chose which one I might be

>>18614995
You probably were paying attention but you pretend not to notice it because you hate her for some strange reason.

>>18615019
No just you buggy bug.

>>18615024
>erotomaniac retard plasters his persecution complex all over his waifu
lol that's pretty good

How does one superstar make this man so angry?

>>18615034
>You say that Lyra gets this is awesome chants, but I deny that reality! What do you have to say now?

>>18615058
>exposes himself as a complete braindead lolcow
>gets desperate that his boring waifu sucks and nobody cares
LOL U SO ANGWY

>>18615065
Everyone hates you and your waifu, on the internet, at the grocery store, at your job (actually scrap that), even the little big shows in your walls

>>18615069
>gets desperate that his
Huh?

>>18615069
I think maybe you have a crush on her but you're too embarrassed to say it.

>>18615121
>spends every hour seething over a midcarder
Awww he loves her.

>>18615132
I can't think of any other reason why Lyra, the least offensive wrestler ever, gets such a deranged reaction. It's okay to think girls are pretty. No one needs to be shy about it.