Thread 18624181

>“Wait a minute! It’s Hogan! It’s HOGAN! Don’t trust him! Hogans the third man! He’s gonna come down to the ring and turn heel and leg drop the macho man and form the NWO! Watch out macho man, hogans gonna turn heel on you and then bury sting with a slow count at starcade next year after Vince screws Bret in montreal!”
Unironically what the FUCK was Bobby “No Brains” Keenan’s problem

>>18624181 (OP)
Does this look like the face of a man that’s stupid?

>>18624181 (OP)
I would've fired him as soon as the show went off the air for fucking up the angle.

>>18624181 (OP)
>He doesn't know
That's why they call Bobby the brain and OP the brainlet

>>18624202
That’s why Jah punished him and took his voice, for ruining the angle

>>18624205
I would have given him a vicious assfucking backstage

>>18624181 (OP)
I hate how people always defend Heenan with the "but his character always hated Hogan and thought the worst of him" excuse
Motherfucker....you are literally seconds away from the biggest, most shocking heel turn in the history of professional wrestling
If there was ever a time for you to shut the fuck up with that anti-Hogan shit for just one minute, it was that moment. Just let Schavone and Dusty sell the lead-up, then when Hogan drops the leg you can do your "all these years, I told you so" rant
Heenan was still a great commentator overall, but he fucked up that night

>>18624181 (OP)
For me its that fucking smark with an ECW t-shirt in the front raw smiling and claping the entire time, fuck that guy he ruined that clip for me.

>>18624996
>I hate how people say the correct thing but it still makes me mad
fixed it

Sting was supposed to kick out

>>18624181 (OP)
Tbh if Heennan hadn't foreshadowed it, it would have felt so out of the blue it would have been stupid and a waste. When Heennan said it, I remember thinking, "lol there's no fucking way! This is the Hulkster we're talking about." As a Hulkamaniac, I didn't WANT to believe it. The foreshadowing immediately sent me into a state of denial. It forced me to resolidify my belief in Hogan's goodness. So when he turned on Macho it had double the impact than if there was no foreshadowing at all.

>>18626360
I watched it live and had the opposite reaction as a little Jimmy. The second Heenan said it I did the math in my head and went “ooooh Hogans the third Man”. I was 7.

>>18626387
Brother I just didn't want to believe it. It was not only a betrayal of my trust but it also forced me to betray my own ability to reason.

>>18624361
In retrospect, Ennis is a hack fraud writer.

>>18626360
mark
>>18626387
smark

>>18624181 (OP)
>”Keep the count nice and slow brother, One……..Two…….Three”
Hogan is so based for this. Changing the finish in the middle of a match. He is the only one who knew what was best for business.

>>18624181 (OP)
Heenan hated WCW from Day 1 lol. He’s the biggest Vince mark of all time and said he only went to WCW because the pay was great and he could be near his daughter for school in Georgia.

His shoot interviews on WCW are pretty funny. Calls Bischoff a used car salesman.

>>18624996
>Heel tries to claim the biggest babyface of all time is actually bad
>Everyone knows the heel schtick and doesn’t believe him
>Hea actually rightly once
>Retards who only know of the moment in due to YouTube clips think he was spoiling it

>>18624181 (OP)
The worst misuse of Heenan in WCW was not putting him in the NWO with Hogan. With all of their history it would have made sense. Instead we got Virgil.

>>18626724
They offered it and Heenan didn't want to be a manager because his neck was fucked and he said there's no point in a heel manager who can't ever take bumps and get his comeuppance

>>18626772
Ah that's a shame. Seeing Hogan and Heenan together would have triggered the hulkamaniacs harder than anything.

>>18626421
Some of Punisher MAX was pretty cool thoughbeit

>>18624181 (OP)
Heenan being right about Hogan was one of the most based moments in pro wrestling and if you think otherwise you should be violently killed desu

>>18624202
WTF is this? What happened to him?

>>18627107
He had throat cancer or something.

>>18624181 (OP)
nobody thought hogan was the third man in the days leading up to this. and nobody thought hogan was the third man even while walking to the ring and nobody took heenan seriously even suggesting it because hogan was such an upstanding person always preaching about doing the right thing. people were always cheering for him so him turning heel was the furthest thing from everybodys mind

>>18627138
I think it was Eric or Tony going "WH-" because they thought Bobby was spoiling things that gave it away more.

>>18627107
The hulkster dropped the leg on him for ruining his promo

>>18624202
Yes.

>>18627107
just karma for talking shit and lying about the Ultimate Warrior

Bobby Heenan is the single most OVERRATED commentator of all-time. He was a great manager, perfect bumbling asshole you wanted to see get his comeuppance. But for the life of me, I cannot understand why people loved him as a commentator with Gorilla Monsoon. They were like a pair of bickering women and were absolutely cringeworthy whenever they were paired together for either PPVs or doing their TV show hosting thing (easily the most skippable portion of Wrestling Challenge vids).

Monsoon and Jesse Ventura were a MUCH better pairing and absolute kino (and Vince knew this, hence why they did every PPV Jesse was around for).

WWF/E downturned when Heenan went into full-time commentary. He ruins the 1992 Royal Rumble with his constant "no no no no". We get it, he's basically Flair's manager but he would have been WAY better actually just being that instead of on commentary.

Fuck all of you who rave about his commentary. He's an embarrassment and him ruining Hogan's heel turn is absolutely no surprise and forever a stain. If you don't realise his commentary on EVERYTHING else is also a stain, you're just too dumb to rise above the level of low hanging fruit humor.

He's one of the original clownshow Vince goofs.

>>18627351
Imagine being THIS filtered. Grim.

Why doesn’t Kane get equal shit fucking up his own debut trying to find the hard cam for the tombstone?

>>18627014
I'm glad someone here has some taste

>>18627351
He said things that made people laugh. Same reason King was great in his prime. The fact that you don't understand humor is giving away your autism.

>>18627351
Only thing you’re right about is that Ventura was better than Heenan

>>18627511
Because it wasn't nearly as big of a fuck-up, that's why
One is spoiling the most unexpected heel turn ever
The other is just Kane taking a little too long to hit the piledriver and awkwardly turning and shuffling around for a few seconds. Plus it's understandable since it was his very first time doing the move on an actual WWE show

>>18624181 (OP)
>Wait a minute! It's SUBHUMAN!

>>18628808
>One is spoiling the most unexpected heel turn ever
Do you think this was the first time Heenan claimed Hogan was doing something or about to do something bad?

>>18627511
Is that why he taked so Long to put tomb stone on under taker ?

>>18627511
Because the people don’t actually care about Heenan “fucking it up” they just want to be mad at something kek

>>18628892
You could tell he initially thought the hard cam was behind him because after picking Carder up he does a complete 180 turn. Then Carder probably told him the cam was on the next side that they were originally on, so Kane turns right back to face the original direction he was in before finally dropping Carder

>>18627511
First time im hearing this, never noticed before but I guess it makes sense.

>>18624996
It was on PPV. They already had your money.

>>18629648
https://youtu.be/ASmdxXaOzd4?t=87
I just watched the video, and I'm wondering if Taker is the one who fucked it up by initially directing Kane into the wrong direction
Kane clearly had him pointed in the right direction at first for the first three seconds and looked ready to plant him, then suddenly he decides to shuffle and turn around as if someone told him at the last second that he was facing the wrong direction....only it was actually the right direction
Then maybe Taker realized last-second that the camera was on the other side and told Kane, which explains Kane doing another full turn before piledriving him
What makes me think this is how Taker looks to the wrong side after Kane's pyro goes off, just before the tombstone. Notice how Taker turns his back to the camera

>>18629710
Huh, very good points

>>18628493
I agree I have the Tism. He had some ok quips but most of his schtick was being chastised by Monsoon. He actually brought BOTH of them down to a level of stupidity that carried WWF into an era of stupidity. Likely because it made Vince chuckle because he likes poo poo wee wee humor.

Lawler was similarly cringe but was in a much better combination with JR and in an era where they were over the top with the risque so it worked better. Although on re-watch Lawler is an absolute embarrassment to listen to.

But great to see how many are exposing themselves to be simple minded easy marks.

>>18624181 (OP)
>Zoomer retcon

>>18624181 (OP)
Heenan suxks

>>18624181 (OP)
in kayfabe he was a heel who hated hogan and was shitting on hogan as far back as 1981
>>18624202
>>18624361
>>18627107
kinda fucked, he had cancer and they cut off his jaw and shit and then had to surgically reconstruct it. the robert and ebert faggot looks like that due to cancer too

>>18626421
>>18627014
>>18627641
>>18624361
was he the one who wrote that one indie comic that was so fucking cringe his wife left him or an I thinking of a different 90s bong comic writer? I just know morrison and the JLI guys are like the only writers from that era who weren't edgy cringelords

>>18627351
>Monsoon and Jesse Ventura were a MUCH better pairing
jesse is way more overrated than heenan. i was watching some old stuff from the wwf recently and thought he was really terrible. if he was any good why did he flop so bad in wcw just like heenan? obviously go-rilla really was that good that he could carry these talentless shitters on commentary and make them seem like stars when the truth is they fucking sucked and he was the unsung star

I heard on a shoot a long time ago Heenan thought the angle would go nowhere so decided to bury it as a rib on his friend hogan

>>18624181 (OP)
It had zero effect on business and WCW still went on to have their boom period. Stupid fucking zoomer.

>>18627351
he wasn't good in WCW either. he always fumbled his lines and just wasn't a good actor in the commentary booth

>>18624181 (OP)
A heel commentator baselessly accusing a babyface of nefarious shit and being untrustworthy to get heat? A style Heenan was famous for and people that people still use regularly? It truly is a fucking mystery.