Thread 18624665

Why are Indy retards putting themselves at major risk for little to no reward?

>>18624665 (OP)
It's one method to fuel a low-grade drug addiction.

>>18624665 (OP)
he's right
but goddamn apparently beige does crack

>>18624665 (OP)
I went to local indie not too long ago and a dude took an unprotected chair shot to the dome with his hands cuffed behind his back. Busted him open. Tickets were 20$ lol

>>18624665 (OP)
>$25? I don't have that kind of money

In 2025 unless you're literally being hired straight out of college for the performance center, already a long-time wrestler or you're a big celebrity like Logan Paul, only the truly mentally ill and those who have nothing left to lose in life willingly choose to work as pro wrestlers at this point. You couldn't make a living 20 years ago doing that unless you were in the top 1%.

>>18624704
lol that’s just retarded when they do shit like that. I never been to an Indy show and wonder if any around me do shit like that.

>>18624730
I just don’t see how Indy wrestlers can even make a living. They hardly get paid anything and have to be on the road basically every day of the year.

>>18624762
You should go bro it was a ton of fun my buddy and I have gone to a handful. Last time he bet me 100$ to do a shoot run in but I pussied out

>>18624876
A couple months ago there were some midget wrestling shows around me but I didn’t go.

>>18624665 (OP)
I'm supposed to believe this guy doesn't have heat in that tranny locker room in AEW but everyone hated CM Punk for saying the same shit?

>>18624665 (OP)
Yes. Instead, do dangerous moves for $100,000 and 10,000 people, so you can end up like Big E, Price, and Haddad.

>>18624665 (OP)
If they stopped doing those moves they'd be out of a job and the indies would be dead.

>>18624665 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JewywmxYTNo

>>18624665 (OP)
This is a stupid train of thought. How else are you supposed to get noticed by the companies that actually pay? WWE mainly is focused on college athletes with some indie guys and AEW is only focused on indie guys. If you don't do stupid shit they're not gonna notice you.

>>18625022
>How else are you supposed to get noticed by the companies that actually pay?
Being tall, jacked, having some actual fucking charisma, and being smart in the ring.

>>18625022
Sadly true. There's loads of nepotism also. Roxanne probably sucked Booker's cock, Dom had his daddy get him in the door, girls in Japan have to give Rossy rimjobs to go to NXT or peg Kenny to go to AEW, UK wrestling is full of pedophiles. WWE guys and girls are opening their own schools - just look at guys and girls like JD, Lyra, Saints, Jade etc

>>18625031
>Being tall
Doesn't cut it anymore unless you're freakishly tall. In which case you're not working indies long anyway
>jacked
Same as above. Even then depends. There's plenty of roid monkeys on the indies no one gives a fuck about
>having some actual fucking charisma
No one looks up indie promos unless it's something special
>being smart in the ring.
The big companies don't care. AEW flat out doesn't give a fuck and WWE is gonna retrain you anyway so you gotta do something to get their attention

>>18625031
That means fuck all. If anything it works against you. Mark bookers and PWG politicians don't want to deal with grown men who act professional.

>>18625022
>yes let’s kill ourselves so the WWE and aew will notice us!
Retard

>>18625200
It's either that or spend 20 years earning hotdogs and handshakes and nothing to show for it at the end. Being a wrestler is retarded in general

>>18624665 (OP)
He isn't wrong. I don't know why this even needs to be said. Just sad that nobody listens to anybody ever like. Sometimes there is bad advice or you get advice from people that you don't want to get advice from. But almost everything that the Old guard tried to warn the young groups of people coming up in the 2000s and now and the 2020s is that they are wrestling at a rate that is way too fast. Way too dangerous. I'm not saying you can't do everything but there's just a lot of people that aren't fully trained and fully qualified to do the moves. And a lot of these promotions are just outlaw shit and promotions. And even then it's like people like Kenny Omega people like kota ibushi and countless others were warned about hard-heading style that they wrestle how they wrestle long matches and they're like no fuck you old people. You all suck. I'm a wrestle like this. Forever's s and now they're all like in their late thirties or in their '40s and like their bodies are fucking destroyed and they're going to be feeling worse than Mick Foley

Long term gain. Find a new way to fall onto your own head and the big leagues come knocking.

>>18624919
its cause mvp is black

>>18624730
>the top 1%.
I wonder if Izzy is in that group (women). She draws crowds/money all the time.

>>18624779
99% of indy wrestlers have fulltime jobs and wrestle on the weekends. only the 1% of indy guys can make a living off fulltime these days

>>18624919
Many are saying this

>>18624665 (OP)
He's partly right.
Indy shitters shouldn't be killing themselves for a handshake and a hotdog but at the same time it's what they have to do to get noticed, it's just the way things are now.
Back then in the 00's every indie promotion had its own niche so you can aim to join one and nichemaxx until you get noticed. Nowadays every indie does the same PWG and deathmatch larp nonsense to the point fans are conditioned to want to see it. Nobody wants to see an old school style match when they could instead see some retard doing a 630 on a broken table from the 2nd floor.

>>18624779
Indie guys aren’t on the road. They wrestle at best like 20 matches a year. It’s a big reason why everyone sucks now.

If you don't get it, you never will.

Da' Maniac would kill MVP for talkin that jive

>>18625403
She is. She already has of fanbase of creeps from when she was a child. She likely loads has connections in wrestling already.

>>18624665 (OP)
Is it true GCW pays the wrestlers in drugs?

>>18625497
Probably

>>18625022
>How else are you supposed to get noticed by the companies that actually pay?
This is such a dangerous and toxic mindset, I genuinely hope you never get into anything wrestling related business wise. Go fuck yourself.
Should any naive aspiring wrestlers come across this: DO NOT KILL YOURSELF IN THE RING FOR ATTENTION. Good ring work is always a better sell than showing how "tough" you are. People want a WRESTLER, not a junkie who can take headshots and then be shelved 3 years after their professional debut because of nerve damage. There are other and better ways to stand out. But please take care of yourselves first and foremost.

>>18625022
AEW is pure nepotism. You gotta be friends of a friend from there if you want a tryout, best these indie whos can hope for is gcw.

>>18624665 (OP)
George Floyd took a deadly move for a fake $20 bill in front of a handful of people

>>18625758
That shit was funny AF
>"I can't breathe! I want my mommy!"
If I ever meet that Uncle Tom MVP, I finna have him crying for mommy too!

>>18624730
if you are bad you wont make much money in any job, getting to tna roh or those seems like decent money and not 1% level

>>18624665 (OP)
he should practice what he preaches

>>18626173
>dangerous moves