Thread 18671806

I don't think Mark Henry is justifying Raja's actions.
I think Mark Henry is doing the same thing that i'm doing, and that's looking at the situation from all angles and coming to a conclusion that Raja's not the only one in the wrong.
to be honest, I think Raja's probably gonna go to jail and sit down for awhile for aggravated assault.

>>18671806 (OP)
syko stu shouldn't have hit him with the can, the promoter shouldn't have put a kid in the ring without smartening him up, the cowboy retard shouldn't have been gassing the kid up and telling him to get his "receipt" when the kid had no idea what it was.
i agree. this was a multi-layered shitfest.

>>18671842
it wasn't AJ Mana's idea for Raja to punch Syko Stu until everybody pull him off. Mana didn't literally say for Raja to keep punching him.
the idea of a receipt in wrestling terms is, "you hit me once, i hit you once, then it's done."
somebody on the KnokX Pro production team (it's somebody with enough creative control to suggest the idea of retaliation as part of a storyline, either Reno Anoa'i or Douglas Malo the bootleg Damian Priest) told Raja:
> don't just throw one punch. slam him and keep punching him until we pull you off of him
AJ Mana never said that to Raja. it's probably either Reno or that bootleg Damian Priest who said that to Raja.

>>18671842
>syko stu shouldn't have hit him with the can
The can never touched raja

>>18671896
>the idea of a receipt in wrestling terms
and the kid, who is a zoomer and never watched wrestling and thinks it's corny, has no idea that's what it means.
all he heard was "get in there and hit him".
>>18671903
the kid didn't know that. the kid probably thought the guy sucked at hitting him.

>>18671896
>Mana didn't literally say for Raja to keep punching him.
He did. He even said if "anyone has a problem with it don't worry I'll get in that fucking ring"

>>18671806 (OP)
>>18671842
Kid? 25 years old is a grown ass man who's fucked more prostitutes than your entire workforce. Why is everyone cuddling this retarded bitch?

>>18671971
i like to use it in a condescending way when i'm referring to zoomer retards.
like
you're fucking gay, kid. like really gay. the kind of gay that makes your grandfather consider suicide. you're so gay the diapers you wear have buttplugs preinstalled.
stuff like that, kid.

>>18671896
>the idea of a receipt in wrestling terms is, "you hit me once, i hit you once, then it's done."
Multiple examples of this being horseshit. It’s not like it’s written down somewhere

>>18671806 (OP)
Mark Henry is DJing in my city tonight, should I blow him

>>18671989
Kev?

>>18671989
You in Leeds, Nigga?

Rampage is a fucking idiot for trolling his own son Raja and making fun of Raja while insinuating that Raja's into gay porn.

>>18672145
Shut yo bitch ass up.

>>18671971
Because he's black.

something i'm starting to realize is that this Raja Jackson/Syko Stu situation has divided everybody.
idk how to explain this, because i'm trying to be sympathetic with these people, but these people make it hard to be
because there's some people out here who are trying to understand what led up to Raja doing what he was doing
then there's some people out here who don't care what led up to him doing what he did. all they see is what he did inside that ring.

>>18672098
Yeah bruv

Stu paid the price for saying the word

Henry is just a typical nigger sticking up for his fellow niggers. He could have killed the guy and they'd still say he dindu nuffin.

>>18672192
That's because everything he did in the ring overshadows the dumb shot beforehand you dumb faggot. And if you watch what happened before hand he looks more guilty of attempted murder

>>18671806 (OP)
this fat nigga mark henry wanted hogan to go on an apology tour with him because he said NIGGER and in private company.
but it's okay if a black guy gets a pass on killing a white for mark.
mark knows in his heart if the races were reversed he want the white guy hanged at the end of their joint apology tour.

>>18672247
Raja's more guilty of aggravated assault and is more likely to go to jail for aggravated assault charges, not for attempted murder because that would be an overcharge.
they can't prove that Raja only came to KnokX Pro just for the intent to end Syko Stu, which isn't true because Raja had zero intent to kill Syko Stu when he was originally there to support AJ Mana.
they can prove that Raja messed Syko up with that first punch, which is more in line with aggravated assault.

also, the fact that the KnokX Pro promoters are also at fault for giving Raja the green light to do what he did (and right now they're trying to do damage control by covering up their role in the incident), is the reason why Raja hasn't been locked up yet.

There's a clip where Raja's at the house with his dad Rampage chillin'. if the cops are looking for Raja, they already know where to find him

imagine being a bitch ass veteran (meaning killing and raping children in the middle east) all that to end up nearly punched to death by some retarded insecure bitch ass nigga
in a way it's karma, hope they both have awful lives from here on out

>>18672289
>Raja's more guilty of aggravated assault and is more likely to go to jail for aggravated assault charges, not for attempted murder because that would be an overcharge.
No it wouldn't.
>they can't prove that Raja only came to KnokX Pro just for the intent to end Syko Stu,
You dint need to premeditate a crime for a day to show premeditation. It's obvious he was going to beat the man as much as he possibly could with no regard for stus life. He said as much on tape prior to getting into the ring.
>which isn't true because Raja had zero intent to kill Syko Stu when he was originally there to support AJ Mana.
Plans change
>they can prove that Raja messed Syko up with that first punch,
And the next 21 punches
> which is more in line with aggravated assault.
And the next 21 punches are more in line with attempted murder

>>18671896
There seems to be no coherent planning, another wrestler not even involved in the angle was telling him what to do. There should be an agent and producer and whoever is running the show there talking to him, not some guy. Obviously nobody intended for him to just keep wailing on him, they were expecting to pull him off after a worked punch then they got scared when they saw what was actually happening and the only guy with the courage to actually stop it was the guy who pinned Raja in the corner, and even then the others kept a distance. Real companies still have some real shooters which was always advocated for in the old days and this is one of the reasons why. If you try this shit in WWE or even AEW they have people with real fight experience and courage who will step in.

>>18671806 (OP)
Yeah Mark basically said everyone involved should be blamed.
Stu didn't have to slam the can on Raja (regardless if it's a worked can or not) because Raja isn't a wrestler, Raja should've never been back there in the first place (he should be speaking to the booker and agents if he's scheduled to show up there as a guest), AJ Mana shouldn't have egged him on about the receipt and Knox Pro shouldn't have done this angle in the first place. Raja is a civilian and basically a guest there, there was absolutely no reason for Stu to try and "work" him backstage especially with a physical kind.
This is doubtful but AJ Mana kept ragging on about alcohol so I assume it's normal for the Knox Pro boys to get drunk backstage which might also be the reason why Stu slammed the can on Raja.
Then you have shit like Raja going full gorilla on Stu, AJ Mana saying he'll pull Raja away after a couple hits (he never did), everyone especially the ref and the fat manlet watching like retards and this whole "uh I had nothing to do with it" aftermath situation from Knox Pro.

>>18672394
I was gonna laugh and say AEW doesn't have any shooters then I remembered Bobbo and Shelton

a reasonable take would be that Raja did what he did, and is wrong for what he did. Raja should've never did it.
but at the same time, maybe if Syko Stu didn't hit Raja in the head with the beer can, we wouldn't even be in this position today.

>>18672439
That's who I was thinking of when I typed it. They also had Hager, but he seems to be the type to only stick up for close friends and mind his own business otherwise.

>>18672445
>Syko Stu didn't hit Raja in the head with the beer can
He didn't.

>>18672393
>You dint need to premeditate a crime for a day to show premeditation. It's obvious he was going to beat the man as much as he possibly could with no regard for stus life.
lmao you don't have even have a basic understand of law, just shut the fuck up right now, retard

>>18672459
>Stu didn't
yes he did. Syko Stu did hit Raja in the head with a real aluminium beer can.

>>18671806 (OP)
Mark "Black Bitch" Henry said Stu was partly to blame because he couldn't defend himself while concussed and unconscious

Why was he there? What did they tell the wrestlers the reason a black man with a camera crew was coming back stage?
If anything was said about him being a trainee or wanting to learn about pro wrestling then Stu was justified in assuming he was supposed to keep kayfabe when the cameras were rolling.

>>18672445
>a man is rushed to the hospital in the middle of a heart attack
>he also has a hangnail on his right index finger that's kind of annoying
>a reasonable doctor would address both medical ailments equally, since they are both problems they are therefore equally bad

>>18672480
Can didn't even touch Raja, mark. Watch the video.

>>18672466
You don't have to plan on comming to the event to show premeditation, you just have to show it before the crime, which the nog did, on his stream.

>>18672445
this one loses its legs due to how absurdly disproportionate Raja's actions were. Stu gave him a worked hit which Raja said didn't even hurt. they explained to Raja that Stu was trying to get heat so they could work an angle later and any halfway mature person would have let that shit go without attempting a murder

>>18672513
Let's not forget the multiple hour gap between the beer can bar trick and the attempted murder

>>18672498
This doesn't work because the zogbot slamming the can directly resulted in him getting nearly beaten to death.
It's like standing in the middle of a busy road and wearing a bright shirt (so cars can see me) and getting surprised when one doesn't give a fuck and hits me because I chose to stand in the middle of the road.

>18672531
This is Hogvert btw before any of you give him another (You)

>>18672540
?
Everything literally started because of the can slam.

>>18672531
Rumor has it that Stu ate eggs for breakfast that morning. That directly resulted in the nog attempting to murder him

>>18672551
It was actually because Raja didn't have breakfast that morning.

>>18672508
That still doesn't prove intent to *kill* dumbshit. California law has an extremely bar for attempted murder, ie. if you actually intend to kill someone there are a dozen other ways that would prove actual intent other than punching someone a lot (maiming and injuring doesn't clear the bar). If Raja had put him in a choke and not let go, then there's a possibility. Prosecutors aren't gonna waste time trying to prove that when they could easily get him on assault.

>>18672551
At the end of the day, Stu got physical first regardless if it was worked or not and that started a chain of events that ended with Raja on top of him
I don't know why you're trying so hard to make him seem blameless. Nobody is excusing Raja's actions but you guys are acting like Stu is some completely innocent angel.

>>18671806 (OP)
There are levels of wrong.
Stu was wrong to think Raja's in on it and would work the beer can.
Wrong enough to kill Stu in the heat of the moment? No.
Does anyone have to ask if it's wrong to stew on Stu for a few hours before beating him to death as an act of "look at me you can't diss me" revenge?
That's where you and Henry have your mental deficiencies.

>>18672574
>>18672570
>>>>>>>>>>
>>18672562

>>18672489
You don't agree to take moves from an untrained person. If you ask some random fan to do a spot with you and he beats the shit out of you or drops you on your neck then you can't act surprised. Saying that also doesn't excuse Raja, who is a piece of shit for taking advantage of someone letting him give moves to him.
>>18672496
Just randomly hitting someone in the head with a beer can is fucking retarded, and expetcting them to just automatically 'sell' and keep kayfabe is also stupid beyond belief.
80's Podcast man has spent decades telling people not to do any of the shit they did that night and is once again vindicated as it turned out the exact way he said it would.

>>18671903

Idk man, you can clearly see his head move during the impact and it wasn't a flinching reaction. Also, did you forget the part where he grabbed him by the neck right after because he wasn't selling it?

>>18672604
That's precisely the point. It wasn't a botch, it was a MALICIOUS attack that concussed him probably 12 times over, broke his face and left him half toothless. Raja is no amateur when it comes to body mechanics; if he wanted to let Stu down easy he could have done so but he didn't because he wanted to fuck Stu up

>>18672221
Cross Green has shoot go away heat with me brother

>>18672445
>but at the same time, maybe if Syko Stu didn't hit Raja in the head with the beer can, we wouldn't even be in this position today.
if Raja reacted violently right then and there about it, then you can skip it as some misunderstanding. But instead he pretended everything was cool, then premeditated for more than an hour about what he's going to do then attacked Stu from behind. Not only is he a retarded little asshole, he's also a coward.

>>18671806 (OP)
>coming to a conclusion that Raja's not the only one in the wrong
No Mark is looking at it from one angle (wyppo bad!) and coming to the conclusion that Raja is justified.

He had a Nigger moment and nearly killed a man. The receipt was when he was knocked unconscious from the slam, everything after is certified Niggery. Smacking an unconscious man in the head 27 times is nothing but a Nigger having a moment.

>>18671806 (OP)
Henry 100% has the facts wrong and it's retarded.
>It wasn't a beer bottle it was a worked can
>It wasn't a reaction, it was 2 hours later after an apology was given and accepted
>It wasn't a fight, Raja slammed him down and knocked him unconscious
People acting like Stu should have defended himself. Fucking when? When he goes up for the slam he's selling and working. Raja hits his head off the mat, and he's unconscious. If he were remotely conscious he would have covered his face, but he was knocked out. Everything after the slam was fucking disgusting.

>>18672697
Call Lane slags have shoot go away heat with me brother

>>18671971
Because he's a nigger

>>18673548
>Nigger moment
Truer words never spoken

>>18672498
You probably thought you were smart writing that shit.

Things I learned about black people from this case
>They don't understand proportional force
>They think 'disrespecting' someone warrants physical assault
>They think claiming ignorance of the law is a valid defense

>>18671971
Society has infantilized Blacks

>>18671903

Either you're blind or you're a pathological liar

>>18672289
>Raja's more guilty of aggravated assault

>>18672402
Marks a bitch, dude ate a shit sandwich and did absolutely nothing about it

>>18671976
You wouldn't dare say that to Raja's face

>>18672192
There's nothing in the world that happened beforehand that justifies what this retarded chimp did.

>>18672322
I had no idea Stu was this based. Fuck desert retards and fuck Raja.

>>18672252
mark knows in his heart that if the world wasn't the way it is him and his family would be windchimes decorating his neighborhood's trees
niggers deep down all do, that's why they act uppity with impunity

>>18672445
Not reasonable at all. If niglet jumped on him right then and there, then fair enough. We wouldn't even be talking about this anymore and more than likely they would have been pulled apart quickly, Stu would have walked away with nothing but a bloody nose and they'd all be laughing about how it was just a dumb misunderstanding. The timing and intensity of the assault, and all over what niglet understood clearly was a harmless work, is what's totally fucked and given all of this context, you'd have to be a genuine retard if you think something like this wasn't going to happen at some other point in the near future. He was just waiting for someone to "disrespect" him so he could feel justified in his dumb niglet head to commit a violent assault. In other words, niglet is a walking powder keg with a 1 inch lit fuse sticking out his bussy and Stu is just the unlucky bastard to be in his general vacinity by the time he blew. If it weren't him it'd probably be a waiter who brought him the wrong order or some grandpa who accidently scuffed his sneakers in the streets.

I think raja will get charged with attempted murder as well as battery on the braids guy. Raja attacked the whole crew

>>18671806 (OP)
>I don't think Mark Henry is justifying Raja's actions.
He wasnt white boys are just sensitive as hell

>>18673906
Raja tried to kill a man because 13 year olds on the internet called him a bitch. Also hey Hoggers kek.

the way i see the situation is
there's a lot of things that led up to Raja losing his mind
and if you're not willing to take that into consideration
then idk what to tell y'all

>>18674087
Yea like him being a gay retard with daddy issues

>>18674087
because there are people out there who want to see Raja burn and want to see Raja thrown in jail and all this stuff
i understand why these people feel like that
but i don't think they came to the conclusion the right way
because i'm hearing these people are trying to re-tell the story and leaving out a lot of pieces
and when you bring up the pieces they're deliberately leaving out, they get upset and be like:
> OH YOU'RE DEFENDING RAJA! WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING RAJA!
that's not what's going on.
Why the fuck are these people so bloodthirsty to see Raja go to jail without even thinking the fact that Raja was dealing with a concussion!!!
and the fact that Raja went to a KnokX Pro wrestling show to support his friend AJ Mana and got assaulted!!!
why aren't these people even thinking about that?

>>18674087
someone asked Raja how he would have felt if he didn't get a beer can smashed on his head and he responded
>but I did get hit in the head

those socio economic factors gnomesayn?

dont give a fuck
lock this coon up and throw away the key
have him rot in prison

>>18671806 (OP)
even maven said raja has no place in civilized society
there is no "looking at it from all angles"
raja fucked up his and stu's life and there's some other people that are accomplices/complacent

>>18674130
>Why the fuck are these people so bloodthirsty
There's only one person involved in this situation that the word 'bloodthirsty' applies to

>>18674159
the KnokX Pro promotion (particularly Rikishi, Reno Black and Douglas Malo the bootleg Damian Priest) also need to be held accountable for allowing Raja to be in the ring and giving him the green light to wail on Syko Stu for real

AJ Mana never literally told Raja to wail on Stu for real.

>>18674173
>AJ Mana never literally told Raja to wail on Stu for real.
He told him multiple times to tag him for real kek. You gotta get a grip, Hoggy. I'm beggin' ya!

we all understand and get the fact that what Raja did was not cool.
it wasn't cool, and i don't think anybody's trying to justify it.
everybody understands what Raja did was wrong.
but when people come out here and people are like:

maybe Syko Stu was a little bit out of line for hitting Raja with the real aluminium beer can
> OH YOU'RE DEFENDING RAJA!

well, the KnokX Pro promotion was wrong for allowing Raja to get in the ring
> OH YOU'RE DEFENDING RAJA!

Raja had a concussion
> OH YOU'RE DEFENDING RAJA!

Raja was on a stream on Kick, and a lot of people were trolling him, he's only human at the end of the day and he eventually snapped because Raja couldn't handle the shit that was coming his way
> OH YOU'RE DEFENDING RAJA!

it's like why is it so fucking hard for people to understand that when you look at a situation and you're not taking any side, you're looking at it for what it is and you come to the conclusion that everybody was wrong?

why is it so hard for people to understand that a lot of people involved in the situation deserve a lot of the accountability?

a lot of people involved in the situation deserve some of the accountability, not just Raja.

>>18674207
Because Raja is ultimately the one who caved the mans face in. Had Raja just laid him out with one solid punch, this wouldnt even be a story, its the fact that he tried to KILL the dude that is the story

>>18672192
>then there's some people out here who don't care what led up to him doing what he did. all they see is what he did inside that ring.
Because it's wholly fucking irrelevant. Every single event that led up to Raja's actions is a fart in a hurricane compared to what he did. The issue is people like you not comprehending the gravity of his actions, because he didn't just beat a guy up, he liquefied his brain. He put him in a state where his prognosis ranges from death, to being a permanent vegetable, to, in the best case, life long brain damage and mental health issues. I'd be surprised if Raja can work again, any job, let alone wrestling. He and his family have had their lives ruined in one childish fit of rage.

Don't care what little earworms he had, or if he was disrespected by a safe worked can shot in the context of a fucking wrestling event, if he's too retarded to parse instructions, or if he's under stress from his father and everybody else in the world losing respect for him. Short of him receiving a phone call 5 minutes prior advising that his mom had just been raped by Stu, there is no conceivable defense for that kind of attack. There is no level of misunderstanding that could justify or even partially mitigate it. If there is any uncertainty as to his intentions, or the sincerity of his apology, maybe don't fuck the guy up. If somebody is egging you on, but you otherwise do not have a good reason to, maybe don't fuck the guy up. Most people treat that level of violence, i.e. caving in a guy's skull and turning his brain to mashed potato, with a degree of reverence that it deserves, and would exercise caution in dishing it out. Raja demonstrated a complete disregard for any of that, and a willingness to dish it out without a second thought. He 100% responsible and any third party culpability is reduced to a fraction of a percent by comparison.

it makes me look at a lot of these people and it makes me say, what is your real fucking objective?
what are y'all really mad about?
like what are y'all really upset about?
are you really upset because somebody got assaulted in the ring and got taken to the hospital?
or are you mad because a black man beat up a white man?

because it gets to a point when you're listening to these people and these people who just want to see Raja burn in hell and you see how angry they are and how mad n' pissed off they are and it's like:

what are you really mad? what is the root of your anger?

>>18674207
literally everything you said is giving trying to foster reasonable doubt in raja's defense, especially when you try to use a worked beer can smash to justify attempted murder
raja is solely responsible for his own actions
you're trying to place the blame on others instead of the man who is ultimately at fault
these people that egged it on/allowed it to happen ALSO need to get charged for being accomplices/neglect, but to waive raja's actions because he caved into peer pressure is not first world behavior

>>18674244
>or are you mad because an animal beat up a human?
yes, and i'm tired of pretending otherwise

the KnokX Pro promotion put Raja in a situation to do these things
Syko Stu didn't do himself any favors either. Now, Syko Stu did NOT deserve what happened to him in that ring.
but for fuck sakes, you don't just pick out a random person and hit them with a real aluminium beer can, you don't do that.

>>18674275
>but for fuck sakes, you don't just pick out a random person and hit them with a real aluminium beer can, you don't do that.
Except he didn't do that did he. He didn't go to the mall, pick out a random person, and pelt them full force with a can. He was at a wrestling event. Cowboy Hat brought Raja in as a guest. Stu had no reason to expect Raja was the one single person in the entire building who wasn't either a fan or a wrestler and wasn't smartened up. In the context of where he was at his place of work, it was normal behavior. People hit each other with shit for fun especially if cameras are rolling, that's what they fucking do. He wasn't provoking a fight, he meant no harm by it, it was a worked shot, i.e. done completely safety with no harm dealt to either person. Anyone who has watched wrestling even once before can tell you this. A random fan in Raja's place would not have been offended by the shot, they'd have found it fun to be part of the show and would have either sold it (acted out an entertaining death animation basically) or given him one back. This is why everybody here is frustrated with you MMA tourists coming in here with your shitty opinions - in the context of where he was and who he was amongst, he did /literally/ nothing wrong.

>>18671806 (OP)
>I think Raja's probably gonna go to jail
LMAO
Not in today's America.
He'll get an award by Trump at the end.

>>18673906
Raja is a faggot with daddy issues
>>18674087
A lot of factors like being a faggot with daddy issues
>>18674130
>muh concussion
Should have had his retarded ass at home then
>>18674150
This
>>18674207
The man tried to beat someone to death because he got hit with a beer can. There's nothing more to discuss. He's an insecure queer whose own father doesn't even respect him. You can try to move around the main discussion here but it comes down to a man trying to kill someone with their bare hands.
>>18674244
You know what we do with rabid dogs? We put them down.

>>18674244
The anger is with a trained MMA fighter beating a defenseless and innocent man nearly to death in the middle of the ring at a fucking entertainment show where people went to have fun for the evening. Race does not need to come into it at all, no doubt there are people whose anger is racially motivated but that's a real fucking easy Uno card for you isn't it. You have literally zero reason to assume racial motivation behind any individual's anger unless they demonstrate it. I have actually seen this level of violence in real life, again against an unsuspecting and defenseless person, and it made me every bit as sick and every bit as angry, and that was one white person toward another white person. You don't get to play your ethnicity card and just dismiss people's legitimate concerns like that and I'm sick to death of people like you view the entire world through a racial lens and who think that reframing the narrative like this is a reasonable way to have a discussion.

up until the KnokX Pro event happened, I don't think Syko Stu has ever met Raja Jackson before.
i don't even think Syko knew who the dude was.
Syko just saw Raja, approached him for some reason while in character. I believe Syko had too many beers to comprehend what's going on around him.
Syko was drunk off his ass.

so Syko approached Raja while in character, and was like
> oh don't worry about him, you need to be worried about Syko Stu
and Raja was like: "who?"
like Raja's not in character, not a worker, he was just here to support his friend AJ Mana.

so Syko walks up to Raja while in character playing his Syko Stu character, that's all good, you can do that.
But where Syko crossed the line was Syko picked up an object (a real aluminium beer can).
btw i'm so tired of people talking about "the beer can was fake". that is the stupidest shit i've ever heard! like it's embarrassing on the part of the people who think it's a fake can.
especially to those outside the wrestling bubble and PW sectors, why do y'all think every single thing about wrestling is 1,000 percent fake?
> cans are fake
> chairs are fake
> the people are fake
> the ring is soft
> the ropes are fake
> everything from whenever y'all walk into a wrestling event, everything is fake
no it ain't like that

>>18674738
>like it's embarrassing on the part of the people who think it's a fake can
nobody has said this
i think it's your comprehension of the english language
the strike was worked, not the can
you're just trying to muddy the waters to defend an unhinged man with glaring mental issues because he shares your skin color

>>18674738
If he hit him with a can for real raja would have not stood there unphased

>>18674738
>I don't think
Shut the fuck up then

>>18673577
>a worked can
moron

>>18671806 (OP)
Everyone involved is a retard

>he got a side defense in court with the CTE
i really think if Raja got charged, he's going to beat the case because of the concussion.

what i'm saying is, nobody is saying Raja was right for what he did. I'm not saying Raja is right for what he did.
what we're saying is, even though Raja did the most and he did the worst, Raja's not the only one to blame. Other people need to be blamed also, not just Raja.

What's with all these copy and pasted responses? Are they being taken directly from reddit? wtf

>>18674823
Beating someone half to death because you got hit with a beer can and apologized to kinda overshadows everything else. Not sure why you're having a hard time grasping this.

>>18671806 (OP)
Just because someone hit you doesn't give you the right to kill them, any lawyer will have a easy win with this one because no defense would be able to prove that Stu wanted to hurt or kill Raja so Raja going for the kill is not self-defense. And he would've killed him if nobody stopped him

>The promoters of the KnokX Pro wrestling promotion gotta take the biggest blame for the situation. did the promoters not see past streams? Raja gets triggered very easily
Both sides are at majority fault for the Raja Jackson situation
Raja Jackson needs to be held accountable for his actions, BUT the KnokX Pro promotion should ALSO be held accountable too.

>>18671806 (OP)
Dat lardass still makin fun of ma boy ? Need round 2.

>>18674850
it will be impossible to prove Raja attempted to kill him.

given that Raja already had a concussion going into the event
if Syko Stu hit Raja with the beer can and then Raja would've passed out and been the one that went to the hospital instead of Syko Stu
would y'all have had the same smoke for Syko Stu the way y'all have for Raja Jackson right now?

>>18674898
stu would have been in a jail cell within 20 minutes and the IWC would have been calling him chauvin 2.0

>to the people that are saying it's a fake can:
what makes you think it was a fake can?
why would it be real for the act?
Because it wasn't an act.
Raja didn't come to the KnokX Pro wrestling event to do this stage gimmick with Syko Stu
Raja didn't show up for that.
Raja showed up because his friend AJ Mana invited him to a wrestling show, so he went over there to support his friend.
That's the only reason Raja was there.
Raja wasn't there to participate in the show, or to do anything besides just be there to support AJ Mana.

>>18674893
>impossible to prove
He practically caved in an unconscious man's face

>>18674949
And it's been said that Stu mistakenly thought he was in on it. Do you bother to read before you type up your bullshit?

>>18674738
He was completely unharmed by the can. By design. Stu deliberately hit him in a safe way. You might wonder "how can you hit someone in a safe way?" and that would be a valid question if you were not talking about a pro wrestler whose job is literally to hit people safely, hence why the 260lbs 6'2 army vet hitting the other guy did not remotely harm him and Raja himself said it did not remotely hurt. You are bending over backwards to find some ounce of defense for Raja just because he's black and you are also black and somebody has taught you at some point in your life that it's us vs them, that there is always a racial angle and that there must be some reason why it is the white person's fault. There is no reason in this case and it's OK for you to admit that. On this occasion, the black person's actions were abhorrent, reckless, and evil, and his ignorance of the situation is no mitigation to that fact. I would be saying the same thing if it were two white people in that ring, or two black people, or a Chinese person and a Native American. And in fact I did say the same thing after George Floyd's murder.

>>18674898
>if Syko Stu hit Raja with the beer can and then Raja would've passed out and been the one that went to the hospital instead of Syko Stu
>would y'all have had the same smoke for Syko Stu the way y'all have for Raja Jackson right now?
If Stu not only did what you said, but also continued to deliver a vicious, sustained and premeditate assault on the unconscious Raja until his ears poured blood? Yes.

>>18674949
so Raja gets there, already dealing with a concussion.
and here's the thing, if Raja knows he has a concussion, why would Raja sign up to do anything physical?
but anyway, Raja gets there to support AJ Mana. Raja's talking to all the wrestlers, being cordial, hanging out, doing what he do
all of a sudden, Syko Stu (in character and possibly drunk) walks up to Raja and being like
> You need to be worried about Syko Stu
talking like a wrestler in character would.
Raja was like: "who?"
Stu's like: "who? you don't know who i am?"
Raja: "hell no"
then Syko picks up a beer can, a real aluminium beer can, and hits him over the head.

>>18672145
The irony is that Raja says Rampage is into trannies but apparently there is some truth to this.

>>18675005
Qrd?

>>18674997
He was being friendly. Yes, really. Hard for you to imagine if you're not a wrestling fan. He is a wrestler, he knows how to hit people without harming them and that's exactly what he did, hence why Raja himself said it didn't hurt and didn't even flinch. He wanted to interact with him in character and have some fun with him, nobody got harmed, he misjudged the situation and did it to somebody who didn't want it. He apologized, explained himself and they shook hands. That's it, that's where the story ends between two decent civilized people.

>>18672192
What part of accepting an apology and psychotically still staying angry enough a few hours later to attempt murder on someone you "forgave" don't you fucking understand? Had Raja been any other race, size, even fucking gender this still would have looked awful. How could anyone trust such a psychotic little bitch like this ever again? Would you stay friends with someone like this? The minute you piss him off and apologize, even if you didn't mean him no harm, he can easily go ape and do the same shit to you.

The way I see it and I think everyone else should see it is the fact this sorry ass fucker accepted an apology and then allows everyone around to think everything is better is what makes this fuck a danger to society. Everyone who refuses to understand this should be thrown into a cage like an animal just like Raja.

I will tell you this much. I won't ever trust a black ever again after this shit. I know for a fact that at least one of these people never truly forgives now. He set black people way back with this action.

>>18675016
It was in one of their shorts. They both diss each other all the time although obviously this stuff actually did get to Raja considering his actions. Seems like Rampage is a fan of Thai trannies though since he didn't outright deny it and some comments seemed to verify it.

Raja was not there to participate in anything after he gets hit with the beer can and it pissed him off, and now Raja has a problem.
the KnokX Pro promotion has a problem to settle the problem.
I think Reno Anoa'i is related to Rikishi, he took it upon himself to settle the problem. Then he puts Raja into the show. Raja was NEVER in the show to begin with.
After Syko Stu hits him with the beer can, then to make everything right, Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo (the bootleg version of Damian Priest, also had creative control like Reno) tell Raja:
> alright, check it out. this is what we're gonna do: we're going to make YOU a part of the show, and then you can get your revenge during the show.
that's when Raja becomes a part of the show, and this is where everything went wrong.
because the promotion should have NEVER did that.
They should've NEVER allowed Raja to get in the ring and do that shit, to even pretend to do that shit.

what they (Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo) should've did was, send Syko Stu home or they should've sent Raja Jackson home, or both of them sent home for the night.

>>18674949
>>18674997
This has gotta be a fucking bot

>>18671806 (OP)
If a white MMA guy's son went a indie matcha nd beat shit out a black wrestler in the same way, streaming the whole thing, saying the same shit afterward, with no remorse, black people would be using it as a reason to riot again and the white dad would be disowning his son.

>>18675083
Many are saying this

>>18674207
>what Raja did was not cool
Because you're clearly trying to smokescreen for attempted murder by reducing it something that was "not cool", nigger lover. I don't give a fuck how many people catch cases over it, but you're clearly trying to make sure the buck stops before it reaches the nigger who actually tried to kill someone.

>people should learn to just keep their hands to themselves. Raja's friends are idiots for gassing him up
they're idiots for gassing Raja up, and they're NOT Raja's friends. They were people in his Kick chat room, so they were not his friends.
they're idiots for gassing Raja up, but at the same time, Raja's also an idiot for allowing it to happen.

Nobody is trying to take the blame away from Raja. Raja did something fucked up that he should have NEVER did. But what people like me are saying, is there's a lot of other shit that y'all should be taking into consideration and you're not.
so yeah, Raja's Kick chat was ruthless, but ultimately, Raja's the idiot because even though his chat did what they did, now Raja has to deal with the consequences of it.
there ain't going to be anything happening to the people in his Kick chat room that night, but Raja could go to jail for a long time.
so ultimately, Raja's the idiot.

>>18673661
>They think 'disrespecting' someone warrants physical assault

this knowledge can save your life. niggas shoot each other over scuffed shoes

>>18675193
curious to know if anyone who donated with a comment with explicit instructions to harm stu could be indicted with conspiracy

so a lot of people are upset and mad at AJ Mana too
but Mana wasn't the one telling Raja to just outright go out there to literally fuck Syko Stu up.
Mana said something (receipt) that he probably shouldn't have said, but it wasn't like he said it the same way Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo literally said it to Raja.

>>18671842
>syko stu shouldn't have hit him with the can
it's still real to you dammit

but anyway, AJ Mana went to a podcast (F Y'all Podcast by C.T. Fletcher) and AJ Mana wanted to speak his peace because a lot of people are trying to throw Mana under the bus, basically saying it was all AJ Mana's fault because Mana told Raja to go get a receipt
even though Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo were the ones who gave Raja the green light to literally fuck Syko Stu up for real.

>>18675215
It's so funny seeing you fags change the narrative just to try and make the zogbot look as innocent as possible. First it was "Stu didn't hit him that hard"
Then it became "um actually it's a worked can"
Now it's "The can didn't actually make any contact"
What's next? You're gonna claim there never was a can?

>>18672192
Lots of people don't seem to understand or care that you can be sympathetic, that someone can have reasons, even good reasons, and still be way off in jail for 10 years land. It's why aggravated assault is only a felony sometimes.

what did i tell y'all?
a good majority of these people who are overly pissed at Raja Jackson and these people who don't want to look at it in any other angle
they're just mad at Raja
they're pissed off at Raja
they want to see Raja in jail
these people who are overly mad at Raja, they're mad at him because they are undercover racists and they are only mad because Raja is black.

>>18675319
>undercover
I'm pretty sure it's overt. No one is hiding anything.

>>18675245
AJ is also clearly a piece of shit who is shitting bricks and trying to deflect. Claiming he was only working and in character when he told Raja to get his receipt? Fuck him. Ignored that he called Stu a fucking idiot on Raja's stream when he said to hit him and he let the concerned friend act drop later and buried Stu for being drunk. Everyone can't be acting concerned that Raja is a non-worker and then give him the bare minimum of instruction and oversight about what to do in the ring. Reno is in an incompetent shit, AJ is incompetent and possibly malicious, Raja is a dumb fuck that needs anger management whether he's jailed or not, and Rampage should be cut out his life.

>>18675257
nice b8 m8, ya kneeslapping faggot

>>18672289
>not for attempted murder because that would be an overcharge.

The strongest evidence for an attempted murder charge is Raja's own kik stream, and the fact that he's a professional MMA fighter. You show intent using the stream. You show lethality because he's a pro. It's definitely not a gimmie though.


>>18672393
No regard would be attempted manslaugter. Which is on TOP of aggravated assault, but less than attempted murder.
>21

The argument will go something like
>There's a point where it crosses the line from just an assault to attempted murder, and that's 15 punches.
or whatever.

>>18672394
It seems LESS than coherent planning. It almost feels like that cowboy dude was using Raj to kill stu.

He said he would run in and have his back. Where the fuck was he?

>>18675374
>You show lethality because he's a pro
He's such a pro he chose such an ineffective way to kill him? You're another retard. Attempted murder would be The Hardest charge to pin on him out of several possibilities due to the nature of the attack and his comments on stream. "Get my licks in" isn't enough to prove intent to kill. "Hit him until they pull me off" isn't enough to prove intent to kill.
>The argument will go something like
>There's a point where it crosses the line from just an assault to attempted murder, and that's 15 punches.
Fucking retard. Did you even look up the criteria for attempted murder in California?

AJ Mana went on the F Your Feelings podcast and he wanted to explain himself because a lot of people...

see? this is another thing people don't understand. a lot of people on this internet, this is affecting people's real lives. people who don't really have anything to do with this, and y'all are affecting people's real lives, because y'all are so bloodthirsty
and honestly, at the end of the day, i think a lot of y'all are scared of black people.
so when you see somebody black doing what Raja did, it scares you half to death and the only thing you can think of is:
> THROW 'EM IN JAIL
there's been plenty of situations where i've seen white people do some of the stupidest shit in the world, some of the most horrendous stuff in the fucking world.
when white people do things that are considered horrendous and evil, what do they say?
> oh he had mental illness problems. there was something going on with him mentally, and we need to figure out why did he do what he did? Why? what made him do what he did?
they find all kinds of excuses to make up for these white people, but when somebody black do something, the first thing they say is:
> THROW HIM IN JAIL!
what i'm saying is, why can't we have the same energy for everybody! I believe if Raja was white, they would make all kinds of excuses for him.
but no, the people who are mad at Raja and just wanna see Raja thrown in jail, they don't care what led up to this because they're scared of black people and they wanna see them in chains, handcuffs, and anytime any black man step out of line and do the slightest thing wrong, they don't care what led up to it
> throw his ass in jail! the only therapy they need is jail!

>>18675257
It's funny seeing you do everything in your power to make a retarded monkey always look like the victim

>>18675319
>they want to see Raja in jail
Yeah. Because he almost killed someone over nothing, you dumb fuck.

>>18675436
>on this internet

>>18675382
Everyone else watched while Stu was getting his face rearranged too. Then there's the whole thing with the texts telling the other wrestlers not to cooperate with police.

I am medicated with my tinfoil hat on right now and it's allowing me to see that this isn't a coincidence.

>>18671971
i was kinda dumb at 25 I would go easy on him it's would be a waste to send him to jail his dad's rich and somewhat around

>>18675450
In which part of my post did I say or even imply that Raja is a victim? You underage /pol/teens can't seem too understand that just because I call Stu retarded for kick-starting the chain of events doesn't mean I'm automatically on Raja's side. Life is not black and white.

there's a mob out here and it's been going on for awhile. these people, they group together in mobs and they're like
> WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS OUR WAY! AND IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL YOU!!!
They don't even try to understand the fact that people have said this numerous times. We are NOT defending Raja. We are NOT defending what Raja did.
What Raja did was wrong.
what we are doing is saying other people involved in the situation need to be held accountable for their actions too. that's all we're saying. that's it.

but these ragebaiters, these trolls, these racists, they don't want to hear none of that shit!
They didn't want to hear the fact that Raja got a concussion!
They don't want to hear the fact that Raja went to an event to support his friend and then got assaulted.
they don't want to hear that!
> what do you mean Raja got assaulted?
Raja was just minding his own business and then he got hit with a beer can
> well, the beer can was fake
NO IT FUCKING WASN'T!!! It was a real can, so Raja got assaulted.
> oh, but they squashed it
ok, they squashed it. on the terms of the conditions that Raja can get his lick back. so they said, "ok, it's all good as long as i can get my lick back"
They don't want to hear that Raja was told to go get his receipt and that maybe Raja misunderstood what a receipt is.
They don't want to hear the fact that maybe Raja felt completely disrespected the whole fucking night and the fact that he had a concussion, it led Raja to do some shit that he probably normally wouldn't have done.
They don't want to hear that!
All they wanna hear is:
> throw his ass in jail!
that's all they wanna hear.

and what does that fucking say about you, that you don't even care to hear about the other part of the story?
you just care that you want to see a black man go to jail. what does that say about you?
and not only do you want to see Raja go to jail too because of what he did, but there is something inside of you that is making you completely ignore what the fuck is going on.
You just want to see that man go to jail. You don't care about anything else. This ain't rage baiting, this ain't none of this shit. I've seen it way too many times!
If Raja was white, these same people would have claimed mental illness, brought up the concussion, and all kinds of shit to justify what he did. But because he is black, they don't care about none of that.

i got news for y'all: for all you people who want to see this man go to jail because he had a concussion, there's probably a good chance that whatever charge they throw at him, Raja's probably going to beat those charges.

The F Y'all Podcast stream with AJ Mana and Rampage in it, had about 7,000 views. That's kind of lightweight for an interview like this.
The Raja Jackson/Syko Stu shit happened when AJ Mana wasn't around and had nothing to do with the two people (Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo) that gave Raja the green light to do what he was going to do.
i don't think Raja did it because AJ Mana told him to, Raja did it because Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo told him to!

>>18675535
'fraid it is, faggot. Take your bait somewhere else.

>>18675628
kys AJ

>>18675536
>doctor I'm having a heart attack
>I also have a hangnail
>please pay equal attention to both

Nobody forced him to punch an unconscious man 20+ times. He is fully responsible for that.

another thing i noticed is that a lot of people don't have attention spans.
they want little YouTube shorts, little 10 minute videos and they want fucking 5 minute clips and shit like that
and then they come to all of these grandstanding opinions and everything, right?
nah, it's deeper than that
but in order to get the full understanding, i don't think you can get that with 5 minute videos, 10 minute videos and shit like that.
but that's the attention span of a lot of people, right?
if it's over 10 minutes, people start to tune out

>>18675717
it takes like 10 seconds to explain the situation. Boomers love yapping like anybody gives a fuck about their opinion

>>18675744
It's a bot, anon.

a lot of people are not holding Raja accountable because Raja is wrong for what he did.
they're trying to condemn Raja because they're like:
> oh this black man is out of control!
That's why they're mad at Raja. They're a little upset because of what Raja did, but the root of their anger is "that black man is out of control, and we got to get some control in that black man"
that's the real reason why they're mad at Raja Jackson

>>18675628
1/10 b8

>>18675535
>>18675552
>>18675535
>>18675535
>Life is not black and white.
You clearly seem to think it is since you've made about fifteen posts painting it as a black vs white race issue rather than an unhinged violent thug issue. I got shat on here for condemning Derek Chauvin when he murdered a black man and I'm here right now getting called out as racist when condemning Raja Jackson for murdering a white man. You are not remotely unique, you are exactly the same as a million other people on this site, uneducated /pol/brained zoomer retards who cannot argue in good faith because they cannot comprehend somebody actually judging moral cases on their individual merits rather than through the lens of tribalism.

And spare me the bigger picture bullshit. You are not here as a psychologist or an investigative journalist trying to glimpse the bigger picture. You are not coming from a standpoint of objective scrutiny but from an emotional investment in wanting to excuse the man. I'm not guessing at your motivations - you have made them clear with your language. It's "but" this and "what about" that. Our choices of words say a lot and in your case they say you are clearly not motivated by the curiosity to learn an understand the facts of the matter but by the desire to excuse Raja Jackson because he has the same color skin as you. You had this agenda before you learned any of these facts an you're absolutely thrilled that they fit your pre-conceived narrative.

again, a lot of people are trying to throw the blame 1,000 percent on Raja
once again, Raja's wrong for what he did.
but there's also a lot of people who deserve equal share of the blame.
and now a lot of people are mad at AJ Mana for telling Raja: "alright, when you go out there, go get your receipt"
so a lot of people are trying to say that because AJ Mana told Raja to do that, it gave Raja the green light to go out there and fuck Syko Stu up.
wasn't AJ Mana. AJ Mana didn't say for Raja to outright fuck Syko Stu up for real.
Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo were the ones who gave Raja the green light go-ahead to enter the ring and fuck Syko up for real.

>>18675808
ANON 3:16 BURIED HIS ASS

AJ Mana was just talking wrestling terms, and now a lot of people are trying to get AJ Mana jammed up on charges too, because once again, they're saying they can look at what the black man did.
> oh AJ Mana told Raja to go out there and get his receipt. LOCK HIM UP TOO!!!
people are saying "lock him up!!!" because of what AJ Mana said to Raja.

so the white people can get all the excuses in the world, but if a black man do anything slightly wrong, it's "lock them up!"
and that's what people are trying to do to AJ Mana, they're trying to get AJ Mana locked up too!!!
I think the backstory is just AJ Mana trying to let the world know who he is:
" this is Andre. My life is ruined. And you know who you are, because you decided to throw me under the bus to protect your own image, to protect what you perceive to be your own good name."
now, AJ Mana's directly talking to somebody. He ain't just talking to the general public.
I think AJ Mana was talking about Rikishi. Rikishi definitely had a fucking hand in the incident, because Rikishi is the fucking owner of the KnokX Pro promotion!
It happened under his fucking watch!

>>18675808
Promos good

I don't think that people are saying AJ Mana brought Raja to the show like AJ Mana picked him up and drove him to the show together.
out of Raja's own mouth, he was there to solely support AJ Mana.
so when people say AJ Mana brought Raja to the show, they're not saying that AJ Mana went to his house, picked Raja up, and brought him to the show.
they're saying that the only reason Raja was at the show, was to support AJ Mana.

what AJ Mana is saying is: "i did not bring Raja to the show."
I don't think nobody's saying that, and even if they are saying it, it don't even matter if AJ Mana brought Raja or not.
But Raja was there to support AJ Mana, that's one thing we do know.

I thought this was /pw/. And not r/squaredcircle

>>18675997
99 percent of this thread wants the monkey to die in prison. Did you not read?

Funny how you can beat a fat old man to death on-camera and as long as you just leave you don't get in trouble

>>18672192

It does not matter what lead up to it. What matters is what he fucking did. And what he fucking did was beat a guy's head in until he was in critical condition and flatlining in the ring. There is nothing to be divided on. The only people who are even divided are rager baiters, tribalist niggers who side with their own color, or white saviors who want to protect the blacks.

Someone like him is not fit for society. Saying sorry and then attacking you hours later makes him an animal. What if you bumped into him on the street, you apologize, shake hands and then you run into him again and he just slams you and beats the shit out of you? Oh but you apologized and you both made ammends. Not to this dumb nigger, in his mind he never actually forgave you so its fair game.

If you are even divided on this, you are a faggot with low IQ.

there's a dude named Luigi Mangione. That dude shot down the CEO of this health company, UnitedHealthCare.
Luigi shot the man down in broad daylight in the middle of the early morning when people are going to work!!!
Luigi shot the man down, and the same people crying about Raja are making excuses for Luigi Mangione:
> oh well, it's these billionaires! They're always trying to screw us. Somebody finally had enough and the CEO of UnitedHealthCare kind of deserved it. These billionaires don't care about us. Good job, Luigi.
THEY FUCKING CELEBRATED THAT MAN, LUIGI MANGIONE!!!

Dylann Roof!!! When Dylann Roof gunned down black people at a church in Charleston, Dylann Roof killed them at the church!!! The police fucking took Dylann Roof to a Burger King!!!

There's all kinds of countless times where a white man has done something wrong and the first thing they say is:
> oh, you know, mental health is crazy. Mental health is real. We gotta take mental health into consideration.

Raja Jackson gets put in the same position as Luigi Mangione and Dylann Roof, and the first thing they say is:
> LOCK HIM UP!!!

You're a fucking racist for celebrating Luigi Mangione and Dylann Roof and crying about Raja Jackson and Karmelo Anthony!

>>18676105
Yawn

>>18671842
trying to kill a man is just illegal. and trying to kill a man who thinks youre in on the work is cowardly. blaming the promoter and stu is way down on the list of whos to blame. mma fighter or not, he knew wrestling was fake and that you cant hit a man so many times when hes KOd, he knows that more than anyone else. he was just a shithead

>>18676105
yes, luigi is just like raja. good bait

>>18676105
I hope Raja gets the gas chamber but he probably won't even serve a day.

i believe AJ Mana. and if AJ Mana was telling the truth and everything AJ Mana's saying is 1,000 percent...
then that KnokX Pro promotion is in big trouble!
and if that KnokX Pro promotion ends up in trouble, then Raja might end up getting a slap on the wrist.
Raja obviously is going to see some kind of repercussion for sure.
something's going to happen, but all these people screaming:
> ATTEMPTED MURDER!
> LOCK HIM UP FOR LIFE!
that ain't gonna happen. A lot of people are going to be mad because they have so much hate in their fucking hearts and so much fucking rage that they want to see Raja Jackson go down forever.
that ain't going to happen because there's a lot of circumstances at play that is going to help Raja out in court.
but they don't want to hear that part of the game.

I like how shitposters keep pointing out the gimmicked can to the head justifies what happened, as if he got hit with an actual beer can

>>18676154
I'm fine with Stu doing what he did even with a real can, tbqh.
Raja's a bitch who deserved to be treated like a bitch. And he's an even bigger bitch for not fighting fair and square and instead ambushing a man who agreed to let his guard down for the show. Weak shit.

>>18676150
>you anons wanting Raja to go to jail have so much hate in your hearts unlike raja
Yawn

>>18674244

The real question is why are you such an apathetic faggot who can't see that a man is in critical condition and was almost beat to death in the ring.

Even if the races were reversed i would still be calling for the attacker to be in prison.

Faggots like you that make it about race instead of seeing a human brutalize another human need to be killed off so sensibility can return.

anyway, before Raja showed up to the show, there was a meeting between Raja, Rampage and the people who own the KnokX Pro promotion (Rikishi, Reno Anoa'i, Douglas Malo).
They were going to do a collaboration with that and a promotion. What that shows is that Raja was going to show up to the show and meet the wrestlers, basically what iShowSpeed did.
except I don't think Raja was going to be part of anything physical because he was still dealing with a concussion, so Raja was originally gonna just film the shit backstage and just be on the Kick stream with all the wrestlers there.
and because Raja and Rampage have so many followers on Kick, with people being on their stream, it could give KnokX Pro some positive notoriety.
that was supposed to be a win-win situation, but Raja wasn't going to be there to do anything physical, but then the shit went left...

>>18672445
>It would be reasonable to expect the heel not to work at a pro-wrestling show.

>>18673658
Your asshole probably hurt when you read it

>>18676315
>What that shows is that Raja was going to show up to the show and meet the wrestlers, basically what iShowSpeed did.
Speaking of iShowSpeed, how did he react when he got snapped in half and concussed by Bron Breakker? He certainly didn't sneak up on Bron with his back turned and attempt to murder him. He accepted it as part of a wrestling show and went about his day like an ordinary civilized person.

>>18675052
>Had Raja been any other race, size, even fucking gender this still would have looked awful
If he were a thicc latina this would have been hot

so for all the people that are saying:
> oh, this was a storyline from the beginning. The can was fake and all this shit...
AJ Mana just told you that it wasn't supposed to go down like that!!!
Raja wasn't supposed to do anything physical.
Raja wasn't there to be a worker!
Raja was there to be a guest
so if there was a meeting for Raja to do the Kick stream thing involving him, Rampage and the other KnokX Pro promoters, and they already had that in the works...

why did AJ Mana have to cough up $30 dollars to get Raja on the VIP list?
shouldn't Raja have ALREADY been on the VIP list?
and if Raja wasn't on the VIP list, shouldn't somebody be like:
> oh don't worry about it. let him [Raja] come in.
why the fuck did AJ Mana have to go through all that trouble to pay all that cash just to get Raja on the VIP list?
and if there was already business being handled, why did AJ Mana have to bring Raja in as the guest?
i'm not getting that part of the game.

>>18676813
god imagine getting mounted and beaten to death by a hot latina

>>18674781
you dont know Raja or anything about the can

So who is winning kwab of the year now? Has to be someone involved in this incident right? Is it possible an entire wrestling promotion should win it this year?

i also saw, inside of that ring, there was a bunch of people in plain clothes who didn't look like wrestlers either, just like Raja isn't.
that whole KnokX Pro promotion is bootleg! There were even kids inside the ring while the others were struggling to pull Raja away from Syko Stu.
the referee and everybody else that struggled to pull Raja off, they were all scared and didn't have a clue what to do, so they froze up and made Raja look like the toughest person in the building.

not saying Raja should be locked away forever, it's more like Raja needs to sit down for awhile.
people are trying to throw Raja away like he's a bag of trash tossed into a dump truck.
> JUST THROW RAJA AWAY! GIVE RAJA LIFE BEHIND BARS! IT WAS ATTEMPTED MURDER!
hold on, slow this shit down and let's think about if this is really attempted murder before you just completely ruin somebody's life!
> WELL, SYKO STU'S LIFE GOT RUINED!!!
But before another life is thrown away, can we kind of figure out what's going on? just a food for thought.

>>18678220
depends on what happens next

Because there's people on the internet going around and saying that "the whole thing was a work from the beginning", and i'm like, "no it wasn't."
There was an arrangement to do some business together, but it wasn't for Raja to get physical.
so the incident happened with Syko Stu and Raja with the beer can that happened.
where the KnokX Pro promotion and the promoters (especially Rikishi, Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo) FUCKED UP was deciding to turn the beer can incident from a shoot to a work.
so it went from a shoot to a work
for all the people running around screaming: "IT WAS A FAKE BEER CAN!!!"
NAH, it wasn't a fake beer can! Syko Stu really hit Raja with a real aluminium beer can! Raja really got mad, and in a piss poor attempt to cool everything down, the KnokX Pro promoters decided to turn that shoot into a work.

That's where the KnokX Pro promotion FUCKED UP at, because Reno Anoa'i and Douglas Malo SHOULDN'T have done that. If it was my promotion, I would've NEVER let Raja in that ring, and Raja would've never been in the ring.
because Syko Stu basically assaulted a fan, I would've sent Syko Stu home for the night, and say to Syko:
> Syko, you go home for the night. We'll figure out something else to do, but I gotta get you OUT of here. You GOT to GO because you basically assaulted our guest. Raja's not here to be physical, and you took it upon yourself to hit that man with a beer can. so you know what, you're done for the night, Syko Stu. We'll see you another time...
BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THAT!!!
and instead, KnokX Pro fucked up by deciding to turn this shoot into a work. Putting a non-experienced wrestler in the ring with very little wrestling experience, is NEVER a good idea!!!

KnokX Pro thought it was a bright idea. EXCEPT you NEVER put an unexperienced, untrained person inside a wrestling ring! You just don't ever do that as a wrestling promoter!!

>>18673661
Congratulations. It takes many people thousands of hours of liveleak or world star to learn that.

>>18678220
Tony but Raja is is an extremely close second

>>18674087
Consideration is fine. Minimum sentence on attempted murder 2 Half off the aggravated assault. 70 percent off the grievous injury enhancement seems like consideration.

>>18678636
If Raja gets away with it sure. But if he gets locked up for a long time it has to be him.

>>18678671
We're pretty far from the end of the year. Plenty of time for Tony to do some extra retarded shit.

>>18678671
You know I've been
>still tony
Since I say him give a stunner to that perfect 10 guy.
But there isn't a more definitionaly bitch move than letting a bunch of gambling addicted 7th graders work you into a shoot where you sucker punch some indy worker to prove to little Aiden/Liam and Addison that you aren't a bitch.
Even if he gets sentenced to a weekend at Disneyland...
Raja is KWABOTY.
>still Raja
even

>>18678725
I still think it depends on whether he gets away with it or not. If he gets away with it the talk of black privilege is inevitably going to have to be discussed in depth yet again by the internet. Even if his dad is a liked wealthy celebrity retired fighter his actions should be more then enough of a clear cut case for courts to convict him. If they don't though I don't see how people have much of any faith left in the justice system. They would be outright saying it is okay because either he is the son of a rich man, he is black, or both. Concussions and tears for his emotional issues is no excuse.

And the fact he isn't in jail right at this moment really says it all. Its not a situation where he was bailed out. They literally just never arrested him despite his murder attempt. He gets away with it then it really shows how much they are allowed to get away with in America.

>>18678725
>Raja is KWABOTY.
I think so too. If only because 9 out of 10 people who talk about what happened call him a savage animal, a dumb ass nigger or a worked bitch. This got mainstream news coverage

>>18678400
some other people need to be held responsible, because all it would have took was just ONE PERSON to make the right decision, and none of this would've happened.

if Syko Stu would have NEVER hit him with that beer can, Raja would have NEVER been in a situation to get inside the ring.
if the KnokX Pro PROMOTION (LOOKING AT YOU; RIKISHI, RENO ANOA'I, DOUGLAS MALO THE BOOTLEG DAMIAN PRIEST) would have NEVER gave him PERMISSION, then Raja would've NEVER gotten inside that ring.
if Raja WASN'T on a Kick livestream, he would've NEVER been able to be ragebaited into fronting to keep up a self-image, maybe Raja wouldn't have done what he did.
and even if Raja was on stream and these trolls in his Kick chatroom are ragebaiting him, if Raja DIDN'T take the bait by ALLOWING these people to get inside his head (which is easier said than done), if Raja DIDN'T allow that to happen, then Raja NEVER flashes out.

so really, all it would have took was for one person to make the right decision, and none of this would have happened. Instead, a lot of people involved in the situation DROPPED THE BALL, INCLUDING RAJA!

>>18678812
Doug said he didn't know. You mean that gay cowboy. You can even see in the video Doug wasn't even looking at the altercation at all his back was turned.

>>18678812
>the black guy who punched can unconcious person 22 times has not been charged or arrested
>we need to focus on who else to blame
Fuck all the way off

>>18675808
>you're a le nigger
>you're le excusing Raja
All that yapping and not a single thing was said. Again, which part of my post did I say or imply that I was defending/excusing Raja or making it a race thing?
I can't call Stu out of smashing the can on Raja which is the sole reason why he almost got beaten to death?

>>18678881
>>18678901
>>18678945
It's a bot, bros

>>18678951
I told your monkey ass that days ago and you didn't listen.

>>18678951
Yeah, remember bros it's not about shutting down 4chan, it's about making it unusable.

>>18678959
And now I'm telling others? What exactly are you mad about?

if you're not willing to take in everything into consideration, then what are y'all really mad about?
because I think your hatred runs deeper than just what happened inside that ring that night.

Raja's wrong. Raja went way too far. He should have NEVER did what he did.
But why did Syko Stu think it was a good idea to hit that man (Raja) with a beer can!
Why did KnokX Pro think it was a good idea to put a non-experienced person into a wrestling ring?
Why did Rampage Jackson fucking troll his own fucking son Raja!!!
now, for the record, I don't blame the super troll-ish commenters in Raja's Kick chat room, because the people in the comments are always gonna do whatever the fuck they do, it's on you as a person to not allow them to get inside your head.

why the fuck did Raja Jackson CHOOSE to allow the trolls in his Kick chatroom to get inside his head?
i can't blame the people in the comment section are gonna do what they do, because everybody is looking for their moment, and if these people are able to successfully troll a person into doing something stupid, then they could possibly get some kind of clout off of that shit.
people do this all the time. it happens, so as a content creator, you cannot take a lot of people in the audience and what they say as a serious attack.
because everybody's looking for their gotcha moment, and they are willing to do whatever and say whatever to get their moment. as a content creator, your best bet is to just block them and move on with your life. you just DON'T ever allow them to get inside your head.

Once you've established that they're a troll, and remember not everybody with a difference of opinion is a troll. Just because somebody merely disagrees with you, it doesn't make them a troll.
But once they show themselves to be a troll, block them.
Don't fucking argue with them! Don't fucking go back and forth with them! Because by you arguing and going back and forth with them, then they won. Because all they're doing is just fucking around with you, and they're looking for some kind of attention. And if you continuously give them that attention, then that's all they want.
But once you block them and yoou move on, they're done. They no longer exist anymore.

>>18674823
>50 subs and I beat his ass
>I didn't mean to do it your honor muh CTE told me to

AJ Mana was really present, he knows everything that was going on and what actually went down.

it's just crazy to me how you got so many people, and i get it, because that thing went viral.
because you got so many people who i don't even think understand the full story of everything that went on and how that shit went down
and they're just saying a lot of shit, and it's ruining people's lives, man.
but this is a crazy situation though.

>>18674850
also self defense does not apply 3 hours after the aggression, if he would've punched him right away then ok valid, but nog did what nogs do and sucker punched (slamed) him

>>18679009
>what did you think would happen after the attack Raja?
>I don't understand the question.
Guaranteed we will here this interaction

>>18674949
>what makes you think it was a fake can?
he would not be standing if he would've given him a real head shot or get asked "are you gonna sell it?"

>>18679027
It's not a fake can, it's just a bar trick, he smashes it on his own thumb and squeezes the can for the spray. It's worked.

>>18676040
yeah thats why i thought im in r/squaredcircle

I think this promotion (KnokX Pro) is in trouble! They are definitely trying to hide something!
and what are they trying to hide?
well, i just saw a stream by F Y'all Podcast and AJ Mana was there, and remember what AJ Mana said:
> somebody from the production team pulled Raja aside and said, "fuck that, don't just throw one punch, slam him [Syko Stu] and keep punching him until we pull you [Raja Jackson] off of him.
do you think that's what KnokX Pro are trying to hide? Do you think they're trying to hide the fact that somebody from the KnokX Pro production team told him that?

Because if somebody from the production team DID told Raja that... idk what to say, because in my personal opinion, Raja STILL SHOULDN'T have DID that.
But if somebody from the production team told Raja:
> ok this is what we're gonna do. You're [Raja] going to slam him [Syko Stu] and keep punching him repeatedly until we pull you off of him.
in a way, Raja followed the script as directed by the KnokX Pro production team.

so...
prayers up for Syko Stu!
prayers up for Raja Jackson!

AND FUCK THAT KnokX PRO PROMOTION!!!
IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE THAT WAS A RINKY-DINK PROMOTION!!! AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE DOING!!!
SHUT THAT FUCKING PROMOTION DOWN!
AND IF YOU WANNA FILE CHARGES ON SOMEBODY, THEN FILE CHARGES ON THE FUCKING OWNERS OF THAT PROMOTION!!!
AND IF THAT INCLUDES RIKISHI, THEN THAT INCLUDES FUCKING RIKISHI!!!

BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON WHY RAJA JACKSON SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THAT FUCKING RING!!!
WHEN THAT WHOLE INCIDENT HAPPENED WITH THE BEER CAN, THAT SHIT SHOULD'VE BEEN NIPPED IN THE BUD RIGHT THEN AND THERE!!!
SYKO STU SHOULD'VE BEEN SENT HOME AND RAJA SHOULD'VE BEEN SENT HOME AS WELL!!!
YOU DON'T SAY "HEY! LET'S MAKE THIS INTO SOMETHING AND YOU CAN GET YOUR LICK BACK INSIDE THAT RING!"
YOU DON'T FUCKING DO THAT!

so if you ask me, I think that KnokX Pro promotion... and now I hear this bullshit that they're telling people NOT to WORK with POLICE! FILE CHARGES ON KNOX PRO! BECAUSE SOMETHING'S WRONG OVER THERE!!

But it is what it is.

>>18679044
ik its not fake can tit was a cool work and could've made a good promo but bitch nog didn't have his breakfast is not capable of improv or recognize the setting he was in.

>>18675328
imagine building this tough guy career and then playing the race card like a bitch

Rampage would be in prison right now if he wasn't bailed out by Dana and an anti-racial justice system.

>>18674173
That one dude with the cowboy hat could face an assault charge himself, if he gassed up Raja to go full power and the pretended he had nothing to do with it.

>>18672445
This logic is retarded. it's like saying if the grocery where they bought the beer from hadn't stocked it, none of this would have happened.

>>18671806 (OP)
Raja has Roman Reigns, Usos and Jacob Fatu on his side. That means he has WWE on his side, which in turn means that he has Donald "The Trumpster" Trump on his side. Therefore, this means that America itself is on Raja's side. I don't care if Stu was a former army veteran or whatever the fuck. He fucked with the wrong guy. Raja Jackson can punch him another 20 times and this time he can stream it on Netflix and Raja will still get away with it.

>>18679112
If he didn't know about it beforehand, he's right to be pissed that someone crushed a beer can on his head out of nowhere, but not 'chimpout and punch this dude into a coma' right.

>>18671806 (OP)
around blacks etc

>>18679112
I just don't get why people even discuss the can outside of establishing the events and how retarded/overkill the hours late reaction

>>18671842
>syko stu shouldn't have hit him with the can
The Story of the can Don't make any sense, he clearly check the can before "hit him" and didn't leave any sign on raja head