Thread 18702517

Live on NJPW World:

9/7 Blue Justice XVI @ Togane Arena (4:00pm)
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Kinship~: Yuji Nagata vs Hiroshi Tanahashi
>Kosei Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs DOUKI, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, SANADA, & Ren Narita
>Yuya Uemura, Shota Umino, Ryusuke Taguchi, & El Desperado vs Togi Makabe, Master Wato, Toru Yano, & YOH
>Daiki Nagai, Hiromu Takahashi, Yota Tsuji, & Shingo Takagi vs Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, David Finlay, & Gabe Kidd
>TAKA Michinoku, Tomoaki Honma, & Taichi vs Clark Connors, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice
>Katsuya Murashima, Shoma Kato, & Boltin Oleg vs Dick Togo, King of Darkness EVIL, & Don Fale
>Tatsuya Matsumoto & Tiger Mask vs Zane Jay & Masatora Yasuda

>Road to DESTRUCTION

9/9 Fujisanmesse (6:30pm)
>Kosei Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs DOUKI, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, SANADA, & Ren Narita
>Shota Umino, Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Togi Makabe, Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano
>Daiki Nagai, Hiromu Takahashi, Yota Tsuji, & Shingo Takagi vs Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, David Finlay, & Gabe Kidd
>TAKA Michinoku, Tomoaki Honma, & Taichi vs Clark Connors, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice
>Katsuya Murashima, Yuya Uemura, & Boltin Oleg vs Dick Togo, King of Darkness EVIL, & Don Fale
>Shoma Kato vs Masatora Yasuda
>Tatsuya Matsumoto vs Zane Jay

9/10 Mainichi Kogyo Arena Kuki (6:30pm)
>Kosei Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs DOUKI, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, SANADA, & Ren Narita
>Yuya Uemura, Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Togi Makabe, Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano
>Daiki Nagai, Hiromu Takahashi, Yota Tsuji, & Shingo Takagi vs Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, David Finlay, & Gabe Kidd
>TAKA Michinoku, Tomoaki Honma, & Taichi vs Clark Connors, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice
>Shoma Kato, Shota Umino, & Boltin Oleg vs Dick Togo, EVIL, & Don Fale
>Katsuya Murashima vs Masatora Yasuda
>Tatsuya Matsumoto vs Zane Jay

Previous >>18654430

Grim

>>18702517 (OP)
9/12 Shinnichi-Champion presents @ Korakuen Hall (6:30pm)
>Generation Crash: Ryusuke Taguchi, Taichi, Tomohiro Ishii, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs Kosei Fujita, Ryohei Oiwa, Yuya Uemura, & Shota Umino

9/13 Korakuen Hall (6:30pm)
>NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Championship: Master Wato, YOH, & Toru Yano (c) vs Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi [31st champions, 1st defense]

>Battle Line Hokkaido

9/15 Nippon Engineering College Hokkaido College Gymnasium Arena (4:00pm)
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Kinship~ 2/3 Falls Trio/Tag/Singles Match: Ryusuke Taguchi, El Desperado, & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Tomoaki Honma, Togi Makabe, & Toru Yano

9/17 Recruit Staffing RICK&SUE Asahikawa Gymnasium (6:30pm)
9/18 Kitami-city Sport Center (6:30pm)
9/20 Yakumo-city General Gymnasium (3:00pm)
9/21 Kuriyama Town Sports Center (4:00pm)
9/22 Yotsuba Arena Tokachi (6:30pm)

9/24 Kitagas Arena Sapporo 46 (6:30pm)
>IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: El Desperado (c) vs YOH [98th champion, 8th defense]
>IWGP Junior Tag Team Championship: DOUKI & SHO (c) vs Kosei Fujita & Robbie Eagles [79th champions, 2nd defense]
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Master Wato

9/28 Destruction in Kobe @ Kobe World Memorial Hall (4:00pm)
>IWGP World Heavyweight Championship: Zack Sabre Jr. (c) vs Ren Narita [13th champion, 2nd defense]
>IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship: Gabe Kidd (c) vs Shingo Takagi [5th champion, 2nd defense]
>Yota Tsuji vs David Finlay
>Hiromu Takahashi vs Taiji Ishimori
>IWGP Tag Team Championship: Taichi & Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs OSKAR & Yuto-Ice [110th champions, 1st defense]
>NEVER Openweight Championship: Boltin Oleg (c) vs Don Fale [48th champion, 2nd defense]
>Hiroshi Tanahashi Final Road ~Connection~: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Great-O-Khan

>>18702517 (OP)
toks fale vs oleg boltin will be dimes

>2025
>nujamals are pretending to like fale who can barely move now

>>18701904
>Leaves to become the 3rd guy in a faction that the fans hate
>Has already been replaced by Japanese Enzo and Cass
>Has already started cutting "i tried to kill meself" promos
Gabe should have just waited one more year. He probably could have won the IWGP Heavyweight Championship and got Tony to add another zero to his offer

>>18702521
Doubt harold will be back since he is busy with kewpie / panasonic / sanrio. don't worry rocky romero is in charge of the njpw usa expansion lmao

>>18702513
which bit them in the ass because the domestic market is down and bushiroad fight got carried by stardom

>Yuri on ice
>Yuto-ice
Bravo Gedo

>>18702534
Nujamals are truly shameless. They are worse than gAyEW fags and E-drones at this point. Even E-drones don't slurp up this kind of slop.

>>18702571
Why is Fale even employed, kek. Everyone keeps mentioning his dojo in New Zealand but has anyone ever made it out of there into New Japan?

>>18702534
>nujamals are pretending to like fale who can barely move now
when? where?

>>18702573
it's a scam apparently.

>>18702522
>>18702517 (OP)
has anything else been announced for the shinnichi show? i never get ppvs from nooj but i’m curious about this show

>>18702517 (OP)
Why are they so anti-dimes

>>18702581
Boltin Shake would instantly get over like Stephanie's Devil's Kiss in WWE.

kidani spends way too much on soaplands every week. thats why nujapan has no money left.

>>18702574
worry about murashima instead

Imagine having a guy to looks like Lesnar jr, and use him as a comedy wrestler

my toys win hahahahaha

>>18702629
FUCKING STOP POACHING TINY

darby toy vs gabe toy
and my darby toy will win
hahahaha

>>18702650
REEEEEEEEE
STAY AWAY FROM HIROMU CHAN

Hello /pw/.
What can I do to have Tonikan offer me contract ?
Please I need. Thank you.

>>18702679
Make your own AEW tribute fed Gupdeep

these my toys for real
these my toys for real
these my toys for real

>>18702610
The difference between NJPW and DDT is that NJPW seems to be run like an actual business, a sports league, whereas DDT really does feel like a family business

Look how happy all of these fucks are, even Higuchi in the back

is g isn't for Grim it's for Gay

>>18703138
Nice English pole schizo, as always

JEONG MOSQUE LI

>>18702922
except poor Ueno who looks like a sad puppy
but wrestling can be done in grandiose places and back in your yard it's just a matter of prospettive.
I like both DDT and NJPW but people look at them for different things but clearly they could inspired each other, and i don't mean njpw focus on comedy and ddt on serious stuff lol

>>18702922
>NJPW seems to be run like an actual business, a sports league, whereas DDT really does feel like a family business
Well no shit, one is a forever indy with a loyal roster and the other isn't. At least DDT is doing its thing right unlike New Japan right now.

>>18703509
Furthermore, most of the Japanese companies are pushing their younger talent... unlike NJPW.

DDT has Ueno and soon MAO, AJPW has Anzai & The Saito bros, NOAH is rehabilitating Kiyomiya and struck gold with OZAWA. NJPW has a deeper roster than the competition and no desire to push any of them.

>>18703509
The right thing like?
>>18703536
I guess because DDT like other companies has a bigger 20-30 roster than NJPW and over the years they dedicated to make side project to cultivate it and make a fanbase like DNA (ueno, mao, shunma, iino, higuchi gen), the DDTteen and now DGeneration with their underage and early 20s roster
>DDT has Ueno and soon MAO
MAO is already considered their top player, i think even before Ueno imo

Why keep Murashima and Daiki stuck in the young lion status when they have a very strong personality and talent, that's the problem not just having literal terrorists ias bookers

>>18702534
Reminds me in 2020 when Okada was having a feud with Yujiro
>LE HECKIN SECRET BEST WORKER
>FREAKIN BROKE HIS BACK TO GET TRENT OVER!

>>18703626
As a casual DDT fan; I have to ask: How is MAO considered their top guy?

Higuchi has more tournament victories, more titles and more main events to his name. Ueno has the same amount of tournament victories as MAO, but he's had more main events and held the top title (not to mention he held the midcard belt longer than MAO).

Just looking at Peter Pan... I don't see how MAO is their top guy. Higuchi main evented both shows, and Ueno headlined the main show opposite Higuchi. MAO failed to recapture the midcard belt.

can't believe you nujamals love fale and yano and then complain when we take gabe kidd toy, shamless bunch

NJPW is pushing its young talent at an absolutely normal rate.

Go look up Tanahashi returning from excursion and how long it took him to become the top guy. It was hardly instantaneous but you're all a bunch of casuals and don't understand that NJPW makes its young guys suffer basically like nobody else before finally putting them over. Only NOAH is slower.

>>18703918
You are not wrong about that, but it's not all about numbers.
The perception of MAO being face of the company alongside Ueno cemented in the years after Takeshita left since they kind of represent the two faces of the promotion (no wonder last year before WPP Ueno talked about him and MAO being DDT's spear and shield).
But I think Ueno handled more officially than him the "face of the company" part because MAO like do things in his own way, which is why over the years they let him move abroad to gain more popularity there because average wrestler enjoyer like flippy shit. Which is the reason he said post BOSJ he wasn't interested in the KO-D title and after some time decided to try to get back Universal since its "his" belt.

Kek sorry for the tl;dr off-topic

>>18704509
what young guys are you talking about?
They are all 30 or near.

>>18704613
That is a young guy and pro-wrestling these days. The only one that is old is Tsuji.

>>18704576
Interesting... I appreciate the insight. It's all the more surprising that MAO didn't recapture the title then. As a Suzuki-mark I had assumed it was his time to job and put over MAO.

>>18704509
The agonizingly slow ascent of Tanahashi was criticized heavily back in the day because NJPW didn't initially see him as champ material. Inoki pushed every failed MMA chump he could at the time and kept tossing the title in every direction to the point that he had to be forced out of the company.

Tanahashi's lack of push and abysmal treatment was a focal point in the argument against creative, and the textbook example of how NOT to book young talent. For you to use it as an example of the "norm" is hilariously ignorant.

>>18705356
Maybe you're unaware my friend but this is a pro-fujita, pro-inoki thread

>>18705443
Inoki was badass as a wrestler, but he was a chump as a booker. He booked his champs in exactly the opposite manner that he booked himself. He always put himself in scripted fake shoots, then put his champs in real MMA matches. He was too much of a pussy to fight anyone for real, and only took cheapshots when he realized he was against a tomato can bum.

Fujita was fucking awesome, Takayama as well. Sasaki and Nagata did well during the late Inokiism days.

I'm talking about Tadao Yasuda (feel free to google) and the many aborted schizophrenic-booked champs like Tenzan > Nakamura > Tenzan > Sasaki > Sapp trading belt every other show. Going back to Tenzan when he was injured, dropping the title to Kojima on accident, and hilariously losing his company's belt to Lesnar because Inoki was too cheap to pay him! Lololol what a chump.

>>18705443
Roland Bock made Inoki squeal like Nash in '92.

>>18702621
wearing glasses make him a comedy wrestler?

nujapoo
pooo
hahaha

I want Tonikan to take our toys.

Tony "Based" Khan can use our toys better than Gedo and I will PROUDLY watch from the chair.

>>18707229
>"better"
You mean wwe lite mixed with pwg instead of choppa kino

>>18708667
Don't bother interacting with the schizo that makes these threads. He just posts negative comments to bump and stir up engagement from fans. He thinks any activity in the thread is praise for him, so he'll just endlessly try to farm.

>>18704509
They have no fucking stars nigga what are you on about. Comparing what's going on now to a guy coming up in the literal dark ages is very telling
>Only NOAH is slower
turn your wrestle universe on

A new door. Maybe it's ddt
https://x.com/tanahashi1_100/status/1962314799028879410

it's happening

>>18710770
3 old grim dimeless shitters

>>18710695
it's happening, tanahashi vs daniel garcia at wk 20

>>18710695
He got Shinsuke, bros..

>【Takagi Shingo Channel Updated!】

>This time, we're bringing you the moving situation!

>https://youtu.be/n7ETQOQh99s

save us Goto

>>18712073
he's busy with street fighter

>>18712073
Should incorporate the hundred hand slap into his nooj moveset tbqhwy

>>18710695
Happening?

>>18710695
He's unironically talking about his anus getting busted open at DDT

>>18712437
https://x.com/tospo_prores/status/1962426264465400085
>棚橋Tバック
KEK

>>18712437
I can't tell if he's like this cuz of enjoyment or trauma..

>>18713253
every day, Inoki-san... please come back and kill Trannyhashi.

>>18713253
You put us in the hole deep, Inoki-san. Trannyhashi may be a shitter, but by the end you were no better.

>>18712024
finally some kind of goddamn story

>>18712024
based emperor shingo has inspired me to clean up my house lol

>>18713253
If Inoki was in charge still he would've been IWGP champ for the last 4 years straight

>ass penetrated by Tonikan
>ass penetrated by Dieno

don't even try and bullshit us brother

>>18713253
Always have.

>>18713253
Nope he sucked

>>18712024
Poikagi moving in with his woman who obviously makes more money than him

the roughneck

Im predicting 3.2k at Kobe.

Meet Potential Man!

>>18718232
october is gonna be so bad for them. double antidraw main event in ryogoku vs noah and 2 wwe show

>>18719133
Don't worry tickets are gonna go flying when they announce Tanahashi vs ELP!

>>18715910
>gets the month off before beating Tanahashi in a boring match
Good for him?

yabai President Trannyhashi has made us a national laughing stock

>>18719860
From what? Dimes?

>>18719860
Never seen a faster wrestler fall-off in my life without said wrestler being cancelled. Now neither fanbase likes him.

>>18712955
GO ACE

>>18720095
There's a picture of Tanahashi with his ass out and tongue down another dudes throat two posts above yours

>>18720374
He's still BACED though. Gabe is a star powerless bitch.

>>18719860
at least Ospreay and Omega pretended to care for Nooj

JEONG MOSQUE LI

Does Take a Shit a win the HebbyQ at kopw?

>>18720997
He should win it on Collision

>>18720095
Its weird because the AEW fans never really liked him. So i dunno why Tony wants him so badly

>tanahashi wrestling the new japan roster is bad!
>him wrestling in ddt and dragon gate is also bad!
the fuck you want him to do then?

>>18721031
Tony lives on Twitter and he was popular there.

>>18721076
Win the belt somehow before WK
Drop it to Yuya at WK giving every last ounce of strength in a 70 minute 8 star bangerino missing his last High Fly Flow after landing the previous 6 in a row

>>18719895
embarrassing
>>18721076
not wrestle every fucking day because no one gives a shit about seeing him wrestle every fucking geek in puroresu

>>18721076
Pay through the nose for Shinsuke at wrestle kingdom
Don't wrestle until then
Make your farewell tour mean something

>>18721085
>>18721094
>>18721155
all retarded takes

>>18719895
this is one zesty ass retirement tour tana’s having

>>18721160
Ok Gedo, what should he do then?
You won't answer

>>18721094
Liger wrestled full tours in his retirement year. The difference is the roster when he was retirement was stacked so all he really needed to do for big final matches was his last Jr title shot and the blowoff with Suzuki. Tana has a dire roster that's mostly dire because the booking he's in charge of is fucking garbage so he's doing shows where he has post billing in Kobe but his final match in the region is with a boring midcarder in match #2.

>>18721228
hold on nigga i'm not done
>>18721076
I want him to wrestle some stars, add actual excitement and star power to these grim shows. Nobody gives a fuck about Tanahashi wrestling bums like Great O Khan or Master Wato. Do those are Korakuen shows if you really want to. Why is every promotion except New Japan getting exciting matches featuring the New Japan president while New Japan crumbles?

>>18721170
For Japanese men, homosexual acts are the funniest thing ever. For women it's the hottest thing ever. Everyone wins.

>>18721305
a lot of men don't care about homo stuff because every japan man did some gay shit in their life, unironically or not kek

Anyway, Kojima was in DDT's show in ueno
https://x.com/ddtpro/status/1962837204499341333
>Kojima from New Japan enjoys the DDT mat to the fullest!
>Kojima: "I absolutely love this unique atmosphere that only this group has, something no other organization possesses. I'm grateful for this opportunity. It was an incredibly great stimulus. I'm glad we were able to come together like this."

>>18721243
What "stars" hasn't he faced yet on the New Japan roster you retard?

>>18720997
They'll try to give him everything to make him sign a contract and come January he's just going to add more zeroes to his current AEW one

>>18721593
Fucking Grimola

>>18721527
There are none is my point, dumbfuck. I'm referring to bringing outsiders in.

>>18721641
Outsiders in puro who are stars such as? ...

trannyhashi should face all the grimposters
we finna shoot on this old nigga ass

>>18721741
you fat faggots couldn't even fit on a plane to get to japan in the first place

>>18721746
I don't know about all the grimposters but I am not american so my weight is not a problem

>>18721775
Edgelard L is Australian and all you joshipedos are fat

shut the fuck up faggot, you are not wanted here no matter how much you spam the thread

NJPW in 2025, as booked by Inoki

IWGP Heavyweight Championship - Boltin Oleg (c) vs Francis Ngannou

IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship - El Desperado (c) vs Katsuhiko Nakajima

Kazuyuki Fujita and Aaron Wolf vs Zack Sabre Jr and Ryohei Oiwa

Shota Umino and Yuya Uemura vs Conor McGregor and Hideku Suzuki

IWGP Tag Team Championship - EVIL and Douki (c) vs Yuto-Ice and Oskar

would it be dimes? I'm out of ideas after that.

>>18721855
Inoki was a terrible booker

the only good NJPW bookers ever were Riki Choshu and then Gedo

>>18721886
When exactly was Inoki the actual booker? I forgot the timeline. Wasn't most of the worst of Inokiism just Simon Inoki?

>>18721652
honestly they could give chris brookes a call and it'd be more exciting then what they're doing now. at least it's someone/something new

>>18721076
It's a little too late to do anything special at this point. AT BEST we either get Nakamura coming back for an "end of a generation" match at WK or more likely he lays down for one of the younger stars at WK... my preference would be Uemura. Gedo probably wants him to fight EVIL again at WK.

>How I would have fantasy booked it?
Fewer matches but make each match mean more, while protecting his body.

Guest matches in DDT, NOAH, AJPW, DragonGate, etc. Hell... see if ZERO1 or FREEDOMS or whoever want to host The Ace. I don't care how small the venue, or who he's up against, it'll mean a hell of a lot more for the fans than a lackluster GOK match.

Would see if WWE would lend Nakamura or even allow Tanahashi on a PLE. HHH is a mark, he'd probably be up for the idea.

If you put him in the G1 there has to be a reason. He doesn't have to win but at least be in the final match. His G1 was pointless, literally any anon on this site could have made more out of it.

>>18721855
The only one that sounds like Inoki booking is:

Shota Umino and Yuya Uemura vs Conor McGregor and Hideku Suzuki

...because loves putting his rising stars in matches where they'd be up against legit MMA guys, which exposed them and usually put them on the shelf with an injury. Inoki never protected his people, only himself. Hilarious when you find out what happened the one time Inoki tried to shoot on an opponent that knew how to defend himself... hint: Inoki was treated worse than Nash in '92

>>18722005
I thought you wanted him to face stars you fucking mongoloid?

>>18722025
>it'll mean a hell of a lot more for the fans
In what world? One where subumans with a BMI over 30 like you are a majority?

>>18722025
>Nakamura comes back for WK, which is Tanahashi's retirement
>his match isn't against Tanahashi
What the fuck are you smoking, anon?

>>18722075
Do you think a throwaway match against Master Wato will be remembered in 5 years... or even 5 days?

Tanahashi stopping by smaller feds and bringing them into his retirement celebrations would be more meaningful to the fans than putting in a 7 minute brawl with GOK in the midcard of a lesser show.

>>18722144
I said bring in Nakamura for the final match OR lay down for a younger star.

I have no problem idea why you retarded faggots are fantasy booking nakamura for tanahashi’s final match. Nevermind the fact he’s a washed embarrassing jobber but he’s in wwe and would probably never be on a njpw show again so it’s pointless to give him Tana’s last match.

>>18722227
>I have no problem idea
cause they need to draw. They have nothing going into 2026. They're banking on Humble Wolf saving them.

>>18722025
Kys edrone

>>18722227
Tanahashi is washed too, arguably he's in worse shape than Nak because he's wrestling a much more strenuous schedule.

HHH isn't opposed to working with other companies. He tried to work with AJPW and has repeatedly lent wrestlers to NOAH. They work with TNA, and now own AAA. WWE is the poison pill of the industry, they'll happily work with most companies because they know they can crush them at any time anyway but the perception of collaboration and competition makes them look better. It's like when Starbucks acquired their two biggest rivals BUT kept the names intact... they knew the haters would flock elsewhere if they rebranded but as long as they kept up the illusion of competition the haters would line their pockets.

If there was something in it for HHH, he'd absolutely lend Nak to NJPW for a day. The only company WWE doesn't want to do business with is AEW because it's run by children and dangerous pedos that want to groom children.

>>18722236
Haven't watched a WWE show in 8 years now, but go off son.

The only thing that would get me to watch a WWE show at this point would be something shocking... like Tanahashi getting a retirement tour special match. Otherwise, WWE and AEW can die for all I care.

>>18722217
Do you think a throwaway match against Kenoh or Jun Saito will be remembered in 5 years... or even 5 days?

>>18722283
Hmm... well, I still remember Tenryu making appearances in over 12 different Japanese feds in his last year of wrestling, and he was FAR PAST his prime... so yes.

His joke match against Dino this past week will be remembered far longer than his match against Masatora Yasuda back in April.

>>18722232
Is there anything that says nakamura is any sort of draw in 2025? And even if he is that would be for one show so again pointless for the future.
>>18722259
Kys edrone
>>18722275
If you don’t watch it then why do you Tana on a wwe show you stupid faggot

>>18722324
The novelty of seeing Nakamura back in a NJPW ring after a decade abroad would be a draw. Seeing two guys that made each other having one last match at the tail end of their careers is a draw. It doesn't matter to you because you probably didn't even start watching NJPW until after Nak left.

I called WWE a parasite and you insist I'm an edrone? I said they poison and profit off of the industry but I guess that's not negative enough for you? I shit on AEW as well, but you don't seem to be defending them? Could it be that you're a tribalistic weirdo trying to console war by proxy?

The novelty of seeing a wrestler I like being given a send-off by another company is interesting to me. He never did anything for WWE, he never helped them, for Tana to be invited to wrestle on a show would be an act of respect. It's sort of like when WWE brought in Liger for a one-off match... it didn't do anything for WWE but it was a nice gesture.

on everyone's souls streets need that Je'Von Evans vs Tanahashi match fr ngl bruh

>>18722392
Nak vs Tana would be a fine match but stupid as a retirement match. Sorry I’m not letting nostalgia cloud the fact that current Nak is a washed embarrassing jobber in wwe.

I have no idea what you’re rambling about but I actually only watch njpw and recommended matches from other promotions.

Your idea of novelty is seeing Tana lose to some wwe shitter? You’re right it wouldn’t do anything for wwe but it wouldn’t do anything for njpw either so it’s pointless

So how do we cope "NJPW is dying" bros?

>>18722581
Japanese wrestling is dead, there is no point of multiple generals here

>>18722599
/puro/ is a cope general for NJPW seethers who go on about how DIMES Ozawa is and what a big draw etc

of course they all already post ITT, seething about NJPW and AEW constantly

Yota Tsuji fucking sucks.

muh record profits

>>18722672
i mean it works when there's ridiculous people claiming that ozawa or anzai are secretely huge draws

>>18722581
it's not as grim as people here make it out to be but it's not good that they're only up 3k from last year despite running a second dome show

>>18722724
>actually +3000
>GRIM IT'S THE GRIM 1 IT'S TRANNYHASHI GRIM GRIM GRIM

>>18722672
but that's what you fags are talking about, you're always posting attendance numbers and shit

you started "muh record profits," you just hate hearing the truth about your second-tier puro indy feds and your little joshibug feds getting crushed by Stardom

>>18722724
>>18722736
those numbers are horrible, insanely low
Small indie shows everywhere else in the World are doing better numbers, not even talking about name promotions

>>18722581
How and why the fuck did big japan and 2aw run that many shows

>>18722759
Sure thing bro, post an American indie pulling 200k ticket sales+ a year

I'll wait. You can event count TNA.

>>18722771
These fags never say what they think is actually good but shit on shota and njpw all the time

>>18722975
thread's been getting trolled by a guy who hates NJPW for years now

sad part is i think he also makes the threads, kek

>>18722672
The only fans talking about profits and revenue are just stealth AEW and WWE fans trying to start proxy wars.

They seethe at the idea of a fan just enjoying the wrestling, and not constantly standing up to protect their slop merchant of choice.

Nobody is saying OZAWA is a draw.
Nobody is saying Anzai is a draw.
Nobody is saying Shun Skywalker is a draw.

They're saying they like those guys because they put on great matches. That's it. Do you think people are tuning in to watch micro feds like MUTOHA because they think it'll blow up and become a worldwide brand?

>>18722975
>>18722771
2000 per show with cooked up numbers is abysmal.
There is no way to defend those numbers, compared to the actual big wrestling promotions.

>>18723184
>They're saying they like those guys because they put on great matches.
Yeah those guys saying that Ozawa was a giga draw because he sold out Korakuen for a GHC title defense definitely didn't exist you disingenuous moron

>>18723184
Ok but ozawa and shun don’t actually put on great matches which just makes everything sadder.
>>18723230
What “actual big” wrestling promotions are you talking about moron?

>>18723184
>Nobody is saying OZAWA is a draw.
kek you're a lying bitch

>>18723307
>>18723415
I was referring to actual people, not the imagination goblins that love in your empty head.

>>18723345
Neither are my cup of tea but the fans of this feds seem to get pretty loud for their matches.

>>18723468
I could go back through /njpw/ and find plenty of posts of some retard saying NJPW is dead and Ozawa is a huge draw for NOAH, stop pretending to know what you're talking about and fuck off

https://www.bbm-japan.com/article/detail/63669
>In addition to Hiroshi Tanahashi's retirement match at New Japan Pro-Wrestling's January 4 Tokyo Dome event next year, much attention is focused on the debut match of Tokyo Olympic judo gold medalist Aaron Wolf. President Tanahashi shared his impressions: "I’ve been devoted to my duties as president, so I haven’t been able to go to the dojo to practice, but I’ve heard reports that he comes to the dojo and trains hard. He has a very serious personality, and you can see he’s earnestly striving to become a pro wrestler."
>Meanwhile, his coach Yuji Nagata said, "He’s working hard. The other day, he was throwing and being thrown. I’m teaching him all sorts of things. He’s getting bruises on his back—he’s really putting in the effort. That’s about all I can say for now. There are still four months until his debut, so I hope he keeps working hard. Success? Without a doubt. He has to succeed."
>Masakatsu Funaki, who returned to pro wrestling from the world of mixed martial arts, is set to hold his 40th-anniversary event on September 21 at Sky Building Stella Hall in Umeda, Osaka. On July 31, when he appeared on ABC Radio’s "Masuda Okada Masuda no Radio Hunter," he was asked about Aaron Wolf. "There’s no question he’s strong, given that he’s an Olympic gold medalist in judo. However, strength alone isn’t enough to succeed in pro wrestling," he said, drawing from his own experience. "Since he’s strong enough to win a gold medal, he probably hasn’t often had techniques used against him. Whether he’s afraid of taking moves is one key point." He also touched on stylistic awareness: "Modern pro wrestling is fast-paced. Will he think he needs to move like that, or will he stand firm and respond to his opponent’s moves?"
>In judo, if you throw your opponent for an "ippon," the match ends there. But in pro wrestling, the action continues from there.

>>18723487
>Some wrestlers transition into submission holds or ground techniques, while others immediately go for elbow drops or body presses. Some run toward the ropes to launch attacks. Even when knocked down, you must get up quickly to avoid taking continuous damage.
>Moreover, in pro wrestling, moves like shoulder throws or being thrown from the top rope often involve falls from heights of over two meters—situations that don’t occur in judo. These aspects also require careful attention.
>And above all, Funaki emphasized that the most crucial point is "whether he can develop his own signature move that leverages his judo experience." While techniques like the armbar, the sleeper hold, or moves incorporating the ō-soto-gari come to mind, the key factor is whether the move is "original."
>Naoya Ogawa, who transitioned from being a Barcelona Olympic silver medalist, developed a move called the STO (Space Tornado Ogawa), an adaptation of the ō-soto-gari, before his debut. He made a successful debut by defeating the then IWGP Heavyweight Champion, Shinya Hashimoto, in his first match (though the final finishing move was a sleeper hold).
>This move involves slamming the back of the opponent's head into the mat and is one of the judo techniques most suited to pro wrestling. However, as Funaki stated on the program, "Even if you change its name, if it's the same technique, the impact will be diminished."
>This marks the first time in Japan that an Olympic gold medalist has transitioned to pro wrestling, generating significant public interest. Because of this, his debut match is unlikely to be against an easily defeated opponent. With the January 4th Tokyo Dome event scheduled for a prime-time broadcast on TV Asahi, a disappointing performance could have long-lasting negative repercussions. In a way, this single match carries the risk of determining his entire future success or failure.

>>18723477
You made the claim that people are posting about OZAWA being a huge draw. When called out... you provide no evidence, despite the archive.

>>18723500
If I find one, you'll say
>just one heh
if I find two, you'll say
>just two
and if I spend an hour making some compilation, I am utterly wasting my time when I can just tell you to fuck off instead

i don't care about your schizo opinion and the people who actually post ITT regularly will know exactly what im talking about

>>18722581
you Bushidrone faggots never get it
New Japan being first by far is nothing new, they always have been except for a very short amount of time in history
they should always be first but it doesn't change the fact that puroresu as a whole is in the shitter and that Grim Nihon's attendance numbers keep getting lower
they had 2 Dome shows on a week end this year and they still manage to get worse numbers than last year, it's not something to be proud about but you subhuman faggots won't get it until Grim Nihon actually dies

>>18723603
TL;DR

all i see is WAHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHH
no go ahead and post the Rizin screenshot faggot

>>18723608
you're a mindbroken bitch because facts prove that we grimposters are right and yeah the Rizin twinks are easily outdrawing Grim Nihon so you faggots can't even cry about le hecking weak yen or the coughy virus

>>18723619
MMA has outdrawn wrestling in Japan for almost 30 years. Comparing Japanese wrestling to MMA in 2025 is the most gay dishonest argument you can make, and all so you can act like you're seething so hard you're ready to shit your own pants

You hate NJPW
You do not like a single wrestler in NJPw
You do not belong here
and you got BTFO by NJPW crushing your gay NOAH drone fed
and Stardom crushing your second rate bug fed

seethe, cope, jibber all you like but these are facts
no more (You)s

>>18723648
MMA has been in the shitter for a while in Japan too
difference is they have draws and actually get what people want to see, that's why New Japan is the Grim era right now meanwhile Rizin is thriving only by booking some twinks with 3-5 records
the rest of your post is just a schizo meltdown, I told you puroresu as a whole is dimeless and they won't get better because they're too scared to change from the dimeless formula they've ran into the ground years ago already

>>18723580
Hah! you just Sethed you crybaby bitch! lolololololololololol

>>18702522
Why is there a caricature of a 2006 rapper next to bootleg Jay White?

wolf aaron fucking sucks

Don't you people ever get tired of acting like this?

>>18724549
yota tsuji looks like a 2006 raper?

>>18702522
grim

>>18724549
Some niggas just want to pick the most ass gimmicks possible. If he asks to rap to the ring he should be put in the Captain New Japan suit and lose every match.

>>18722061
Why did you specify "puro" as if they can't come from anywhere else?

>>18726155
japanese people tend to be a little late on trends so a 2006 rapper gimmick probably feels really cool to them

>>18726155
This rapper gimmick is lame as shit, but like you said some of these niggas just demand curtain-jerk gimmicks for some damn reason. Great O Khan, Master Wato, etc.

People who hate Japan and Japanese pro wrestling really love to post in here for some reason

>>18726777
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PRAISE THE HECKING RAPPER GIMMICK !!!
this is why yall niggas don't get laid

>>18726777
Literally the same for every hobby on the entire Burmese cat grooming site

>>18726777
Toxic positivity is mandatory everywhere else

>>18726777
The schizo that makes the /njpw/ thread tries to keep discussion rolling by rage baiting because he never learned the difference between heat and go-away heat. When he's active you see him bumping the thread with obvious shitposts and then posting in agreement with his clumsy bait.

That being said, the rapper gimmick is indeed midcard as fuck.

>>18726777
I haven't watched New Japan since 2023

>muh go away heat
>on a fucking anonymous board full of virgin losers
nigga

>>18726829
NAH DEM JAPS BE LAME AS SHII FR BRUH THEY NEED SOME SAMURAI GIMMICK OR SOME SHI YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALMBOUT?

>>18726184
>>18726610
Well we don't know if it's supposed to be a rapper gimmick or just some poser thug. Probably the latter

>>18722765
They're both knocking on death's door. 2AW is just KAIENTAI Dojo though so it's not like they're in as awful shape as BJW based on their structure.

I hope they're alright

Realistically what could save and un-grim NJPW?

>>18702517 (OP)
The two potential WK matches for champion Takeshita are:
>Shota (he has a win over Takeshita)
>Okada (would be built in another company, in a G1 knock-off)
I dunno which would be worse desu

>>18728925
nah, everything is perfect according to anon
Great product, great talent, great attendance numbers, everything is great.

>>18728925
Inoki-san coming back from heaven and choking Trannyhashi and Gaydo to death.

They should just fucking give the belt to Shota already and get it over with. Let him sink or swim.

>>18729146
he's dimeless but I agree at this point they should just put their belt on one of the reiwa bros and get going even if they choose shota to be their ace maybe he would get better if he was the champion

>>18729146
This but Yuya
Send Shooter to the Ukraine to develop some sort of drawing gimmick

I want Evil and Sanada winning the WTL and going on to challenge Tana and Yuya (tag champs) at wrestle kingdom
That or just pay for Nakamura

I think New Japan really needs a big gaijin heel and another Suzuki. Shota getting slapped around by one of them could probably bring some fire out of him. That applies to the whole roster really. I don't know who that could be? Maybe bring Braun Strowman in for a few dates? He's basically immobile these days, but they can book around that while using smoke and mirrors. Blood always helps.

>>18729199
Yeah based retard Braun could absolutely do some Fale like matches to get someone over as the monster heel mountain to climb

Don't worry, I will beat Takeshita-kun or Zakku-san and become Shin Ashe !

>>18729267
Ganbatte, Umino-kun!

He go another one of your young lions

>>18729431
NOOOO HE'S WORKING A NON NEW JAPAN SHOW WHAT A FUCKING TRAITOR!!!
Is this how we're supposed to react or...?

>>18729435
Holy fuck, why the general is so psychotic. It's just a funny photo
Anyway Despe wasn't in any of the card but was there as second

>>18729440
>Here go another one of your young lion heh
>Erm I actually didn't mean anything by saying this
Piss off your disingenuous piece of garbage

>>18729451
You missed the fact that was Tana who said to Dieno to pick a lion if he wanted one and was hogging Murashima post their match two days ago? This thread is retarded I swear

>>18729468
>tfw Korean dogs exist

There might even be Koreans or Chinese secretly in this thread right now.....

>>18729440
kek you exposed the other dude as a mindbroken schizo bitch
Shin Nihon fans have a very weak mind and spirit after all

Poopdickschizo really didn't like this one LOL!!!

The ToSpo MVP won't be a New Japan wrestler this year, how grim.

>>18729431
Damn, half the YLs are KWABbed now

>>18729572
Last year they snubbed Kaito
This year they're teasing the idea of a woman winning it for the first time
Why does NJPW hate their NOAH allies so much.

>>18729529
i like njpw, but only game threads during G1 were bearable

>>18729431
mao a cute
>>18729724
the g1 threads this year were cozy, wonder why

>>18729597
>Last year they snubbed Kaito
Kaito did great last year but it was either Naito or surprisingly Zack, he wasn't coming close

>>18730072
Naito in 2024?

...you're joking, right? 2024 was a disastrous year for Naito both in kayfabe and physically. He lost his title and, essentially, his status as a top guy in NJPW. His body really failed him.

He had 3 decent matches all year and 2 of those were against ZSJ. I don't know if ZSJ deserves it either but he had a banner year compared to Naito. Took the title, healthy, traveled the world CMLL, RevPro, etc. Great year for ZSJ.

Neither would be my choice but oh well

>>18730133
Holy shit you're so such a fucking retard for someone who watches njpw

>>18730133
MVP isn't a "bestest wrestler" award nigga. And in kayfabe the only major blemish was his G1 record as champion. Otherwise he's still had the accomplishments necessary to win.

>>18729199
If the Ozawa saga in NOAH is teaching me anything I need what NJPW needs more than anything is one of the young guys to completely buck the system. The first one to spit in Tanahashi's face live on camera and go against everything will do wonders.

>>18730404
>The first one to spit in Tanahashi's face live on camera and go against everything will do wonders
That was Gabe but he's been poached

>>18730404
This is a good point. All the new young guys are too polite. They are just waiting for Tanahashi's approval (and he's giving everyone his approval so it doesn't even mean much). Even Ren, who is a heel isn't doing anything. Tsuji says some tepid rebellious stuff in interviews but doesn't back it up

>>18706174
what are some good tenzan matches to watch?

>>18730494
Don't see how some dude doing ticktock dances and licking people faces is "edgy" or trasgressive.
But not even NJPW heels are that trasgressive if that count so it isn't about being too polite or not but having an interesting character which is the point why many wrestlers struggle to find their own character years after their debut.
NJPW's wrestlers wanting Tana's approva is understandable, even people outside of NJPW want it. We have just to wait to see how things are going to change when he retire.

>>18730901
stealing the gimmick from a female wrestler, very embarrassing
NJPW needs a good product and a big restructure, no miracle angles or wrestlers to "save" anything