Thread 18797632

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Big Dave is very very upset that Stevie said Kyle Fletcher needs to leave AEW and go to NXT to learn how to actually work a match if he wants to harvest all his talent and become a true star.

>>18797632 (OP)
Who cares what jews think?

Dave is right. Stevie is a retard.

>>18797632 (OP)
Based dave. NXT is generic dogshit and everyone there is a CAW, how the fuck can you take that seriously

>>18797632 (OP)
Dave is a bigger star in wrestling than Stevie ever was.

>>18797632 (OP)
Stevie is right. The best Kyle can do in aew is ask 400 people in a buffalo wild wings what they want to talk about.

>>18797632 (OP)
Look at Hook. Look at Wheeler Utah. Look at crotch in the face guy. I don't think nxt is necessarily the answer but I know for a fact Tony is not the answer.

With the way his career is going I'm sure he can go there in the future unless he gets horribly injured. Has one of the best looks in AEW, decent promo, decent wrestler though a little too spotty still.

>>18797650
MAYBE you could have done something with hook. But wheels up uterus and Danny gaycia are fucking black holes of charisma

>>18797650
>>18797659
Wheeler Yuta actually has a gimmick/character now and has come into his own. He definitely stands out and has more personality than 90% of the CAWs in NXT

>>18797667
Who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to dress up 2 homeless guys and have Okada do a photo shoot with them?

>>18797672
They used to be wrestlers.

>>18797677
Homeless wrestlers?

>>18797677
naw that cant be right

>>18797677
masked midget wrestlers?
they're some small fellas

>>18797632 (OP)
ah yes Kyle Fletcher with his 60k on instagram. at least AEW wised up and started saving money by signing guys nobody's heard of, since no one watches the shows anymore.

Dave Meltzer has 100% made more money in wrestling than Stevie Richards

>>18797739
And Tony Khan for that matter

>>18797682
More likely than you may think.
>>18797689
Fishman used to have two minis called the Sardines.

>>18797632 (OP)
Who cares

>>18797632 (OP)
>seething
he's mocking "the great" stevie richards ya fuckin retard

I know people like to shit on Stevie, but the dude did have a career in ECW, WCW, NWA, WWF, TNA, and ROH. I mean.. What more was there for him to do really?

>>18797798
>What more was there for him to do really?
Anything of note in any of those companies.

>>18797814
Tag team champs in ECW, held the Hardcore title in WWF... 21 times..?

>>18797766
LMAO those two retards fucking seething and fuming at Stevie Richards

>>18797632 (OP)
>”Kyle’s talented but he would be better off if he learned some psychology, when and where to do his flashy offense, and didn’t let a guy half his size no sell his offense in the second match of the card.”
>”HOW DARE YOU ACTUALLY GIVE A RATIONAL CRITIQUE TO ANYONE IN AEW FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU”

People actually fall for Stevie’s Anti-AEW grift?

Cornette says the exact same things Stevie said about Kyle but these pussies wouldn’t dare go at him.

>>18797831
The man is just trying to get some charcuterie.

>>18797826
Kyle could step foot in WWE today and he would immediately be a better wrestler than 99% of the entire roster.

Especially in this era of celeb shitters and nepotism hires.

>>18797816
That's nothing compared to Meltzer's distinguished career that won him multiple Peabody and Pulitzer awards. Don't forget that Meltzer was the guy who first broke the news on Vince McMahon's various NDAs and sexual impropriety in the company.

I tried to watch WWE but it was like an retirement home the amount of 45 year olds in the main event scene. AEW has the better talent and they are all like 30.

>>18797835
>Cornette
Yeah I'd rather trust Meltzer than Cornette when it comes to wrestling. At least Dave has trained some wrestlers of note in the industry. Cornette is just a loud mouth grifter who has never achieved a single thing.

>>18797851
This.

Also, the behavior of audience members in the WWE shows is starting to detract from the show. The constant cheering and singing is distracting.

Say what you want about AEW fans but they actually stay quiet during the matches to allow you the chance to get immersed in it.

>>18797896
The camera work distracts from the show and to hide the countless botches. WWE is a soap opera for kids, tards, and mongoloids. It's not wrestling. AEW is just gay.

pretty funny how an ecw midcarder managed to make the jew seethe with rage

>>18797896
>Say what you want about AEW fans but they actually stay quiet during the matches to allow you the chance to get immersed in it.
lol it's because no one is over and the matches are boring garbage. this nigga actually thinks the crowd sitting on their hands is a plus. hahahahahahahahaha.

>>18797848
Meltzer has never been in the wrestling business and was practically persona non grata to the top brass for decades.
Of all the people who people wanna elevate over Stevie Richards, Dave Meltzer is by far the single least suitable candidate.

>>18797925
Have you ever been to a movie theater? Respectful audiences stay quiet. In a similar vein, AEW fans stay quiet to respect the absolute cinema being put on in the ring. E-sloppers will never understand this feeling.

>>18797946
>Meltzer has never been in the wrestling business and was practically persona non grata to the top brass for decades.
But isn't Dave an advisor for AEW? Thus in a way he helped create a wrestling company that is now beating WWE in streaming numbers. Last I recall Dave suggested that AEW has at least 1.5 million viewers on MAX or something.

>>18797980
>Dave suggested
Most things he suggests are inaccurate and misrepresented.
What makes this one true?

>>18798007
>What makes this one true?
His work has been peer reviewed by multiple high level mathmaticians on his message board.

>>18798027
It hasn't been peer reviewed outside of his message board?

>>18797896
Are you watching it on cable? The stream I watch the crowd is always really loud and especially during this Joe's Crab Shack residency they've been super annoying and inserting themselves into everything.

>>18797831
>>18797842
DON AND DAVE JUST MADE THE LIST! (of people who bullied Stevie)

>>18797968
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>18798042
im pretty sure that guy is yanking your chain autistchan

>>18798101
> Stevie Richards, the "Great" Stevie Richards
Lmao, try not to sound too butt hurt Dave. Also, I was confused at the last part of the clip whether he was talking about NXT or AEW about choreographed moves.

>>18798185
I'm wanking his microdick with needlenose pliers here

>>18797831
>everyone critical of AEW is a grifter
lol you people never learn. this is exactly why AEW struggles to break 500k viewers. you retards act like everything is perfect and that nothing needs to be fixed. meanwhile people are refusing to tune in and AEW is failing to sell out 1k sets for Dynamite. I hope you'll look back on this when AEW closes its doors in the coming years.

>>18797632 (OP)
James must be fucking ecstatic his dramabaiting has earned one of his guys a single moment of limelight, he's been trying so hard
still tho lol @ stevie richards getting bullied by his co-host into picking online fights with other old men

>>18797632 (OP)
Maybe Stevie just thinks that Fletcher might want to wrestle in front of more than 1k people at a Wendy's in Iowa. That he could be seen on TV by more than 198k people.

>>18797632 (OP)
out of all the wrestlers in AEW, picking out kyle of all of them is funny. he's young but also clearly passed NXT. what's he gonna do, forward rolls?

>>18797766
kek callis don't freakin miss

>>18798211
He definitely doesn't miss ECW where he got bullied for being a pussy

>>18797632 (OP)
Jesus dave fucking kwab
Dave just like all of /pw/ don’t even realise all these ex wrestlers are working him into seething constantly

>>18797667
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

stevie finally learning how to work these clowns after 30 years

Is it true James takes 80 percent of the podcast's profits?

>>18797766
Kek guess who got bullied in the ECW locker room

>this fucking jew sarcastically calling him "the great Stevie Richards"

The nerve of this absolutely worthless cunt. I had to close the video immediately I just can't stand Dave

>>18798966
it's true though. I used to hate ol' wheeler useless, but he pops me now

>>18797659
>MAYBE you could have done something with hook
hook is 5'6 145lbs. he looks tall when he stands next to his dad but when hes in the ring he looks ridiculous for a wrestler

>>18798975
The bigger problem is that his dad was always built like a tank while he looks like a malnourished zoomer faggot

>>18798972
it was one of the more based things dave ever said

>>18797766
>>18798101
lmao callis is a good poster

>>18798988
>he looks like a malnourished zoomer faggot
exactly. his skeletal frame is simply too small to gain any real mass to ever be intimidating. tazz was built like a fire hydrant hook looks like a twink

>>18797632 (OP)
The irony of Stevie's video is that Kyle Fletcher RIGHT NOW is a bigger star than Stevie Richards ever was

And no, that's not saying much.
But it makes it hard to take Richards' opinion seriously at all. Who is going to give Fletcher career advice next, Chuck Palumbo?

>>18797766
I don't get it. Wasn't all he said that he would do better learning in NXT? It sounds like he was saying he was good and had a lot of potential. Im not sure why that makes them so angry. Say what you want about NXT but they actually help you develop a character and personality which is what kyle needs because all he is now is a guy who dresses like a gay cowboy sometimes and in suits occasionally and can wrestle good.

>>18799046
By what metric?

>>18799046
fletcher isnt any sort of star whatsoever. there are almost no fans at the aew tv shows now and ratings are lower than any show stevie ever appeared on. stevies time with RTC alone would make him more of a star than fletcher at this point

>>18799056
>>18799061
Than ANY metric really. I don't know if you zoomer nufags are aware but ECW did not have national weekly television on TNT/TBS and it was pretty impossible to watch nationally back in the day outside of trading PPV tapes (pretty much all ECW stuff I saw in the late 90s and early 00s was bootleg PPV tapes).

Fletcher is a bigger star and more over in AEW than Richards ever was inside of ECW. And in WWE Stevie was a total geek undercarder who just got bullied by everyone back stage and never accomplished anything significant whatsoever.

Why would anyone take advice from him about being a star?
Sure, you can say he has years of in-ring expertise to talk about technical stuff but he is one of the worst managers of "his own star" of any guy ever. Stevie had a ton of tools and never ever used them because he was such a giant mark bitch who cried when he met Shawn Michaels backstage and told him what an inspiration he was, lol.

>>18799071
I don't care for stevie at all but I fail to see how this kyle felcher guy is any bigger.

>you should take advice from a wrestler who was such a bitch he got BULLIED BY GAY REFEREE CHARLES ROBINSON backstage in WWE
Honestly Stevie should be in KWABOTY running for this video alone.

>>18799071
>Than ANY metric really.
but he isnt by any metric. stevie richards was in wcw and wwe when both were at their peak in viewers. more people knew stevie during that time than anybody knows fletcher now because both ratings and attendance for aew is so low. how is that hard to understand

>>18797632 (OP)
Kyle Fletcher wrestles in front of 300 people inside of a Taco Bell and 250k television viewers a week all for Jew stars, he's obviously a megastar!!!!

Insert prime Stevie into modern AEW and he mogs 90% of the roster

>>18799082
stevies best bit

>>18799061
>fletcher isnt any sort of star whatsoever.
Yes he is. He has really high ratings on Cagematch. You can't say the same for ol Stevie Retards.

I would beat the shit out of Richards

>>18799046
Fletcher is no where near as big a star as Stevie Richards. Stevie was never the reason anyone went to a show, but I don't know why people pretend like he's Barry Darsow or TL Hopper. He was involved in one of the bigger midcard storylines in the peak of the attitude era, and the BWO was over when he was in WCW. Stevie is as well known as a guy like Perry Saturn or Hardcore Holly

>>18799295
>muh cagematch ratings
NOBODY CARES WHAT 1000 SWEATY NECKBEARD BLANCO-NIGGERS THAT NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE OR BUY A FUCKING TICKET GIVE AS RATINGS TO FUCKING MATCHES ON GERMAN EUROTRASH OWNED WEBSITE, YOU STUPID SMELLY FUCK. NOBODY HAS EVER MADE SINGLE FUCKING DIME FOR BEING IN A 1 STAR 2 STAR, 3 STAR, 4 STAR, OR A 5 STAR MATCH THAT DIDNT COME FROM TONY KHANS POCKETS BECAUSE HE IS THE ULTIMATE FUCKING MARK. DO YOU FUCKING FINALLY GET IT IF I RESPOND TO YOU IN ALL CAPS LIKE DON CALLIS DOES?

>>18799109
Even now more people know Stevie more than Kyle just because of youtube

>>18797632 (OP)
Stevie: 6 video game appearances
Fletcher: 0 video game appearances
I rest my case

>>18797667
Many are saying this

>>18797667
I agree. Wheeler Yuta has a unique look that exudes that Stone Cold Steve Austin badassery. Had he been born three decades earlier he could've gone toe-to-toe against the greats of the Attitude Era.

>two never-wases having a bitchfest, one's a jew
Are we supposed to care?

Even Triple H admitted the NXT men's division is dogshit, why would Kyle go there?

>>18799956
>why would Kyle go to the place that is getting more attention and better ratings, with a chance to go up to the biggest fed in the world?
Smarks are now the only marks

>>18799968
>why would Kyle go to the place that is getting more attention and better ratings
Citation needed.

I'm pretty sure AEW is outperforming WWE in the streaming space.

>>18799973
>I'm pretty sure AEW is outperforming WWE in the streaming space.
Then I'm pretty sure you also think you're an attractive, intelligent woman instead of an undateable mutant male.

>>18799968
Why go to NXT if he needs to learn. RAW draws less live views than that. Have him start on RAW.

>>18800051
>Why have him learn to do things in an environment designed to ease new talent in instead of hotshotting him and learning he needs to learn things
Tony TV rots brains.

>>18800057
That's not what I said tranny.

>>18797848
Journos and Shit are the same thing, and even the stink of Shit is better than journalists.

>>18799046
>The irony of Stevie's video is that Kyle Fletcher RIGHT NOW is a bigger star than Stevie Richards ever was
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Stevie in RTC was bigger than the majority of nobodies nowadays in WWE, let alone fucking AEW. AEW has a literal fraction of the viewers Stevie had back in the day. You are delusional.

>>18800135
RTC lived the heel group hard, and Stevie looking like evil TF2 scout helped even more.
The downside was that RTC really ruined Godfather and Val's careers because vince was so out of touch with the world around him that he couldn't think of a updated gimmick for both like making val cash on the streaming adult carreer at that time like seymour butts and Godfather becoming a 2000's pimp

which also makes me wonder how short the brain of a common wrestling fan is to forget people so quickly though

>>18799046
BWO and RTC shit over anything Fletcher has ever done

>>18797632 (OP)
>KYLE DOES GYMNASTICS ROUTINES SO MUCH BETTER HE DOESN'T NEED TO GO TO NXT HE'S A MUCH BETTER GYMNAST
KEK

>>18800212
no one said that

>>18800215
That’s Dave’s argument

>>18800218
no it's not.

>>18800215
nah dave said that

>>18797848
How does one get to the point in their life where they're actively defending a dirt sheet journo on an anime basket weaving discussion forum? I'm genuinely curious.

Kyle sucks. He's one of the most indiest wrestlers out there. He does nothing big moves, he doesn't sell and he goes way too fast. And he has already injured 2 people.

>>18797632 (OP)
Stevie never drew a dime. He has that in common with Kyle, sure, but Kyle has had a good match before. Stevie hasn't even had a good angle in his entire life.

sars defend the kyle fletching

>>18800255
You still have a micro penis?

>>18800235
the ball of learning is in your court.

>>18797846
>Kyle could step foot in WWE today and he would immediately be a better wrestler than 99% of the entire roster.
nah he's pretty trash because he learned to wrestle by mimicking all of ospreay's worse tendencies

>>18799082
Worked

>>18797667
Still hasn't figured out how to get over, though. That's like saying Fred Ottman became a better wrestler because he went from Shockmaster to Typhoon.

>>18797632 (OP)
kek cult got BTFO now they be sliding in seethe

>>18797871
You got a list of wrestlers dave trained? Id like to compare it to some of the guys jim had in smw or ovw and see how their careers went.