Thread 19017159

>Ummm ackshually if you watch his Japanese work he was one of the best of all time
Is there a worse cope for overrated shitters?

The botch was 30 years ago, Shawn. Let it go, you got all the NXT pussy you could ever want.

You don’t even have to watch his Japanese work. His match with Flair is the best in wcw history and other than Flair and Cactus he’s the only guy whose managed carry sting to actual Mainevent level matches. You couldn’t have picked a worse example.
The can am express are a much better example of guys who had an incredible career in Japan and complete botched up any chance of getting over in America.

>>19017159 (OP)
Vader was based, and you're being willfully blind if you haven't seen the proof yourself yet.

>>19017184
>Ummmm ackshually if you watch his matches against guys famous for being able to make anyone look amazing he was one of the best
Wow you might have come up with a more obnoxious cope

>>19017159 (OP)
KWABFPOS (kek what a big fat piece of shit)

>>19017159 (OP)
Dungeon of Doom was inimitable kino.

>>19017213
Sting fucking sucked in the ring.

>>19017249
And whaddya know he had classic matches with Cactus Jack and Ric Flair too

>guess I’m just a FAT PIECE OF SHIT
What did he mean by this?

>>19017159 (OP)
Not just in Japan, he was one of the GOATS everywhere he went. Except WWE. The problem was on their end, simple as. Vince wanted to turn him into some mantaur-type character named "the mastodon" and Vader wouldn't do it, so he got buried. Everyone else drew dimes with Vader, so the problem was clearly with Vince.

>>19017159 (OP)
>I’m being a contrarian faggot and no one can stop me!

>>19017287
he bonced his ronce on the cornew

>>19017159 (OP)
Overrated? What are you fucking talking about?! Don't make me see the Big Van Vader project torrent.

>>19017280
And the patriot.

Overrated? What are you fucking talking about?! Don't make me seed the Big Van Vader project torrent again, Ill do it!

Yes, the "ummm ackshually he's a AEW superstar" one

>>19017159 (OP)
>He's a big fat piece of shit that can't wrestle and constantly hurts people
>BUT IN JAPAN!!!

If Goldberg was wrestling in Japan in the 90s obese smarks would've said he's the GOAT

>>19018150
I'm a Vader fan from way back and I think Goldberg was always the drizzling shits, he literally made me stop watching WCW.

>>19018150
But Bob Sapp is exactly that and nobody says he's the GOAT

>>19017320
Take the wrestling fig out yo bussy, playa

>>19018201
See >>19018296

>>19017320
So many legacies the manchildren here can't appreciate because Vince wasn't able to turn them into a stupid kiddy cartoon for retards.

>>19018349
What was his legacy, smelling like a cement truck filled with garbage? Bret Hart said Vader was a shitter that couldn't wrestle

>>19018354
When you grow up and watch something other than WWE you'll realize how mid Bret Hart is.

>>19018359
And OP is supposed to be the contrarian?

Watch his Ospreay match.

>>19018522
Legit Will's best match and Vader's lungs could barely carry breath but he carried Will.

>>19017159 (OP)
He was actually good in WWF despite the horrid booking, it’s just that it was nowhere near to his work in Japan or even Mexico/WCW

>>19018652
>He didn't cripple anyone for life therefore it wasn't as good

I just wonder if vaders wwe run was doomed from the start. If you weren't political or politically connected back then u were toast.

>>19018150
Goldberg DID wrestle in Japan

>>19019982
According to Vader himself, Race did the politicking for him at WCW which is why he was a main-eventer there despite Bischoff not caring for Vader. He was probably fucked the moment he chose WWF over Japan, though Shawn chimping-out certainly didn't help.

>>19017320
Thats not what buried him.
Whast buried him was Micheals being a whinny bitch backstage and in the ring.

>>19017159 (OP)
I FEAR NO MAN

>>19019982
He was set up to be a main eventer from the start and even had a namesake PPV but both those fell apart when he got injured then he never got over once he returned. You can blame booking all you want but mid-tier guys like Ahmed Johnson got over without having all time great mouthpieces like Cornette and Paul Bearer in the same time period.

No one wanted to work with Vader because he was stinky

>>19021297
This. the injury at the very beginning fucked his run up. Vader screwed Vader

never drew a dime