Thread 19045684

>>19045684 (OP)
Tony Khan

>>19045684 (OP)
just two more weeks till they die bro! this time for sure!

>>19045689
my nigga the only thing alive about aew is Tony's dad's money. it's a dead fed.

I don't know but it's coming any day now. I remember when it was WWE dying any day now throughout the 2000s and especially 2018 and shit, and TNA has always been dying next week. CMLL was declared dying like 3 years ago. Now for 5 years AEW is dying. Why are wrestling fans so obsessed with predicting death on a company?

>>19045684 (OP)
Probably the same reaction your parents had when they gave accidentally birth to you.

>>19045684 (OP)
the punkster killed it. one of the most based things to happen in the history of pro wrestling tbqh

>>19045698
saar did you respond to the wrong thread saar?

>>19045684 (OP)
Tony had a choice to make:
>CM Punk, who wanted AEW to put on the best shows they possibly could, draw, and make money like a functional business
or
>The Elite, who couldn't draw a dime and just wanted to cosplay wrestle with their clique of dimeless shitter buddies and didn't care if it killed the company
And Tony chose the latter. That was the deathblow.

>>19045689
>just two more weeks
AEW is already dead.

>>19045729
Yea as someone who saw the whole thing first hand, essentially this. The bucks running around the ring while Punk debuted in wwe was their confirmation of it.

>>19045689
>p-please ignore the lack of audience, on going list of injured stars, lack of ratings, failed video game, broken connections, failed tv show, and various scandals! No we’ve never been sued and exposed we have shit to hide behind the scenes. We’re totally ALIVE baby YEA!!
AEW is literally a zombie kept going by Khan money so he doesn’t have to work with his dumbass kid. If anyone thinks AEW would be here with out it, seek meds and honestly just shut the fuck up.

>>19045697
AEW only exists because Tony's dad is pumping money into it. WWE weathered 2018 because they're a real business. TNA survived because Anthem purchased it and turned it into a real business after Dixie Carter's parents stopped footing the bill. AEW isn't a real business. It's a nepobaby's fantasy being artificially propped up by his rich dad. It's losing its TV deal, losing its audience, and it has no viable future. Nobody's gonna swoop in and save it like Anthem saved TNA. It's dead.

>>19045729
And now Hangma'am, who started the ball rolling on Punk getting pushed out, is champion again and the ratings are at record lows as they wrestle in Mexican restaurants. Lol.

>>19045802
>Mercedes no 50k
>Bucks no 50k
>Bobby Lashley no 50k
>5 star match 11k
>World Champion no 50k
You would think Youtube is a solid excuse for them but they can’t even draw there.

>>19045830
did you see that there is a full length hangman page documentary premiering on fuckin the aew YouTube channel LMAO

>>19045684 (OP)
Page winning the title + shooting on Phil

>>19045684 (OP)
honestly the last chance they had to look like a real fed competing with WWE was early 2024 when they signed ospreay mercedes and okada and the wrestling media were clowning on WWE for missing out. But then Tony fumbled every single one of them and made them meaningless and now there really isn't any journalists defending them outside of Crazy Dave and the Simp

>ANOTHER AEW Derangement thread
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING

>>19045842
KEK nah I didnt, but I imagine that’s future footage for that vice show

>>19045684 (OP)
The Punk media scrum started it. A LOT happened in between that definitely helped bring things down even lower. Then picrel seems to have been the fumble that broke the camel's back. Ratings have done nothing but drop and lose to NXT's every week since. Attendance has dropped to the point they can't even fill up the smaller venues they started booking and had to take up residency in Casa Tonita. They lied about All In numbers again and tried to get the whole ass state of Texas to sign and NDA to keep it under wraps. It was a grim summer and fall hasn't gotten any better

>>19045848
Okada booking legit pissed me off and I was forced to cope he’s just milking him for money. I legit felt bad when smarks got excited about the Okada/Omega unification match, knowing it would be ass. Then watching that spark die cause even they couldn’t justify the stupidity about the belts not merging and there being 3 belts.

>>19045849
The only derangement is believing that AEW is a healthy and thriving company. Literally only two faggots here think so.

>>19045729
>>CM Punk, who wanted AEW to put on the best shows they possibly could
Punk specifically went to AEW to shit up the place and then threw tantrums until he got fired so he could go back to WWE.

>>19045684 (OP)
A retarded smark thought he could run a wrestling company

>>19045849
The only derangement is thinking they'd draw a crowd this size if they ran this building back again this year

>>19045849
That's not an AEW crowd. That crowd is clearly set up for a concert, not a wrestling show. Plus AEW has only run Hammerstein Ballroom post-renovation. Those balconies don't look like that anymore.

>>19045900
>Punk goes to AEW and starts programs with Darby, Sting, and MJF. AEW at an all time high.
>Elite get jealous and Hangman shoots promo. Punk is sensitive to it.
>Punk retaliates months later, Elite barge backstage to his room and get beaten up.
>Punk is literally given his own show and by god it actually gets decent ratings. Elite send Jack Perry to shit on it with a real glass spot, knowing Punk had very purposefully built Collision to avoid shit like that. Punk tells Perry no.
>Perry throws tantrum online and backstage. On PPV openly mocks Punk. Punk, being a VP and more old school and telling these guys a thousand times, shows them fuck around and fight out and beats Perry’s ass.
>Punk fired, Perry suspended.
Seems like Punk would have been just fine to die there had they stopped poking the bear so many fucking times.

>>19045849
Do you think I'll stop dunking on AEW if I know it upsets you this badly? I'll do it even more now lmao

>>19045900
>Punk specifically went to AEW to shit up the place and then threw tantrums until he got fired so he could go back to WWE.
>source: I'm making it up

>>19045925
This. I'll never say Punk handled things as professionally as he could've from the start of it. But he was always right ever since that shit started with the media scrum

For me it'll always remain the Codyverse

>>19045925
>>Elite get jealous and Hangman shoots promo. Punk is sensitive to it.
Probably shouldn't have been since he's an adult male and not a teenage girl.

>>19045963
You'd have to be retarded to think Punk cared about AEW in the slightest. He only went there because WWE told him to.

>>19045776
so dead I'm gonna watch it on Wednesday.

>>19045684 (OP)
the moment everyone realized that Tone couldn't control his toys

>>19046087
I just fucking wish we can see Samoa Joe’s up close real reaction to this as it happened
>”Ah fuck, oh no, I told ya”

>>19046062
>[headcanon]
cool story bro

>>19046068
Have fun watching your dead show and desperately trying to force yourself to like it and work yourself into thinking all the cringe parts, of which there will be many, are based kek

>>19046062
>Probably shouldn't have been since he's an adult male and not a teenage girl.
yeah I agree that hangma'am shouldn't act like a feminine little bitch all the time

it's a bummer because I like some of what AEW does. Went to all the local shows the first few years hoping they'd turn it into something decent. Then shitters like Cole, MJF, Hangman, etc start main eventing? No idea what matches are on the shows until the day before or day of most of the time. Horrible stories or most of the time no stories and heatless 'bangers' on the weekly shows. Pointless stables/teams with lazy as fuck 'angles' that never fucking end. A hundred belts nobody cares about. An entire promotion nobody watches (ROH). Trying to cater to an autistic faggot and his star ratings. Catering to actual faggots.
I could go on but yeah I wish someone more based had a billionaire dad instead of Tony's faggot ass. Someone that actually had a set of balls.

>>19046134
what the actual fuck is that webm

>>19046721
that's what aewtists think is good wrestling anon

>>19045684 (OP)
CM Punk.

everyone saying CM Punk isn't wrong, but Punk just exposed what an unprofessional smark circlejerk aew actually is and how unqualified Tony Khan is to run and book a wrestling company. the problems were all there - punk just showed everyone what they were. aew would have failed with or without him

>>19045684 (OP)
Tony Khan is the problem and he always has been

getting to watch aew die in slow motion over these past few years has been shoot fuckin hilarious

Not letting Cody just do his job and be EVP and Brandi take care of the women's lockerroom from an HR standpoint.
Cody would be the nail that holds shit together and stops it from getting out of hand and they would have avoided all the Punk drama as they have a levelheaded adult as the intermediary there.

>>19045684 (OP)
well making hangman page the champion TWICE is definitely a reason

>>19046087
This was the moment AEW died. They actually thought airing this would help them... somehow, and then immediately tried to scrub it from the net because it verified Punk's side of the story and showed what an absolute bitch Tony is.

>>19047335
I still don't understand what the point of that was. any aewtist care to explain it to us?

>>19045684 (OP)
It's another thread where you imagine AEW's death to cope with their continued existence

people like pork on wheels defending it no matter how shit it got

>>19045776
AEW exists because their WBD deal makes them profitable. Everything in your post is falsehoods that you cling on to because you can't admit you were wrong. AEW would have already folded otherwise.

>>19047919
>imagine AEW's death
nigga you don't have to imagine you can watch it die in real time right now
>>19047927
>their WBD deal makes them profitable
LMAO

>>19047335
I can't understand how anybody thinks that. He assaults Jungle Boy for no reason. It's why he got fired. How does it make him look good? It makes him look awful.

>>19046832
AEW exposed Phil's mental illness, unprofessionalism and insecurities. They gave him everything and he still spat on them because it wasn't enough.

>>19047261
letting Brandi be involved with or especially in charge of anything creatively seems like a really poor idea desu
almost everything she was involved with was shit outside of the Nightmare Sisters, which was only good because of Bunny and QT really

>>19047973
people at the aew show chanted for CM Punk after it aired FYI. also punk had already told us exactly what happened in this video, blow for blow. I remember aewtists saying that there was no way that Tony would air the footage unless it contradicted Punk, but it turns out Tony really is that fuckin retarded. speaking of that retard Tony, we're still waiting to hear exactly what part of this video made him fear for his life, like he said he did on national TV

>>19045684 (OP)
Cornette saying no to Tony and signing the NDA

>>19048003
>Punk already told us he attacked JB unprovoked so he wins
just mental illness
>we're still waiting to hear exactly what part of this video made him fear for his life
He said that so he was legally safe to fire Punk. People told you this on the day it happened and it still hasn't gotten through your head

>>19046087
yep. this aligned with sting's retirement and the true downfall starts here. it was a cheap attempt at a ratings pop and alienated anyone who was a punk fan. shouldve just let it go

>>19048012
>alienated anyone who was a punk fan
Why are you alienated by watching footage of him attacking his coworkers?

>>19048009
>just mental illness
there's a video of punk describing what happened side by side of that footage. go study it and get back to me.
>He said that so he was legally safe to fire Punk
that's even worse than actually being afraid

>>19045684 (OP)
All Faggots Wrestling

>>19048020
because tony was clearly trying to make him look bad. im not a huge punkfag but the truly insane ones who might have had interest watching AEW after he left no longer had any. it's just a bad business decision. wrestling fans aren't logical for the most part

>>19048026
trying to make him look bad by showing him bully a little pussy faggot like jungle bitch and then telling Tony Khan that he's a useless piece of shit? smarks really think everyone lives in their bluesky bubble don't they

>>19048033
yes. tony khan is indeed, a retard

>>19046134
Japan destroyed professional wrestling(unintentionally, btw)

>>19045684 (OP)
it always sucked

>>19048022
>I will defend Punk for anything for any reason for ever no matter what he did forever
Good riddance

>>19048033
If it doesn't make Punk look bad then what are people complaining about? Everybody is so dishonest about this. Fact is AEW was getting attacked non-stop by everyone involved and aired it to clear up what happened

>>19048086
>If it doesn't make Punk look bad then what are people complaining about?
nobody is complaining, dumbfuck, we're laughing at Tony for being dumb enough to air it and destroy his company. we're also laughing at jungle bitch for being such a pussy and then Tony again for reaching his gangly skinnyfat arm over his monitor like the dumb sperg that he is kek

>>19047984
>from an HR standpoint

>>19048097
Why are you pretending that footage of Punk assaulting someone is bad for anyone other than Punk? This is such a bizarre cope where you are pretending it makes anyone else look bad. You think AEW is bad because they didn't lie about and cover up Punk attacking someone. Punkfags are so mentally disturbed.

>>19048097
And why is it dumb to show people what happened? What possible consequences make this dumb? Punk was already fired by that point and never coming back.

>>19048103
>Why are you pretending that footage of Punk assaulting someone is bad for anyone other than Punk?
I mean, all that happened since then was Punk being more famous than ever before and aew fading into complete obscurity so I'm not sure how you can argue with the results here.
>You think AEW is bad because they didn't lie about and cover up Punk attacking someone.
Punk had already told everyone what happened during the helwani interview, which is what caused the Tony spergout that lead to the airing of this footage in the first place kek

>>19048124
All you have is bitterness and cope about what happened and I think that's tragic

>>19048129
I accept your concession

>>19048124
>all that happened since then was Punk being more famous than ever before

>>19048199
.....?

Matt Hardy teleporting in the stands.
Hiring CM Punk.
Codyverse.
MJF completely burying Jay White.
Jon Moxley's recent title runs.
Also the general bad will from treating NJPW like shit.

>>19045684 (OP)
Who knows no one watches

>>19048272
>Hiring CM Punk
you mean the only time in its entire history that aew was relevant?

>>19048272
>MJF completely burying Jay White.
Absolute nonsense.

>>19045684 (OP)
Fumbling Punk

>>19048283
Come on now, AEW was relevant in 2019 because people thought it would be the popular mainstream alternative to WWE backed by big money that everybody was clamoring for. But yeah, outside of that the only other time it was relevant was CM Punk signing.

>>19045684 (OP)
the guy with no legs in their royal rumble knockoff
the jericho pizza slicer one was pretty bad too

>>19048299
>MJF, with one totally crippled leg, defeated a perfectly able-bodied Jay White
MJF buried Jay so hard it effectively killed his career.

>>19048329
HEELS
LOSE
MATCHES
TO
BABYFACES

NOT A BURIAL

BABYFACE OVERCOMING THE ODDS AGAINST CHEATING HEEL

NOT A BURIAL

MAIN EVENT OF A PPV

NOT A BURIAL

>>19048349
why u triggered tho

>>19048299
>>19048349
I didn't watch AEW for a very long time after that bullshit and I seldomly watch it now. That match was as infuriating as Miz and Cena at Over The Limit 2011. That was actual Vince tier dogshit. Total burial.

>>19048349
Why does pointing out the fact that MJF buried Jay White and basically ruined his career upset you so much? Are you, perhaps, a retard?

>>19048357
>>19048359
ADDING DRAMA TO THE MATCH BY REDUCING MJF'S CHANCES OF WININNG = PUTTING ON A GOOD MATCH

NOT
A
BURIAL

>>19048366
It was a shitty match where a one-legged MJF defeated Jay White, this burying Jay to oblivion. Why does reality make you so mad?

>>19048366
It was a shitty match where a one-legged MJF defeated Jay White, thus burying Jay to oblivion. Why does reality make you so mad?

>>19048366
brother it wasn't "reducing his chances of winning" he could barely walk, it didn't feel like a babyface braving through an injury it just felt like gay shite jobbing against someone who was about to get off tv for months

>>19048366
Matches like that completely break any immersion, they make you question why anyone would book shit like that. That's the kind of garbage Vince booked in his later years. Neither guy looks good after a match like that. You just roll your eyes and walk away. That WWE lite slop isn't for me.

>>19048380
>>19048383
Here is what's happening: you are a SMARK. You are REBELLING against the intended correctly booked story of the show in which MJF is a heroic underdog babyface facing a villainous Jay White who wants to cheat and injure MJF so he can win the title. You as a SMARK do not view Jay White as a heel, you view him as a babyface because you are ignoring the story they are telling, and you are looking at him and his career and thinking "wow I hope this new guy gets a push!" which CONFLICTS with the story they were telling. And this CONFLICT upsets you, and so you view the actual storyline through an inverted lens in which your babyface was cruelly robbed by political booking to stop him winning. BUT HE WAS NEVER GOING TO WIN, BECAUSE HE IS A HEEL, AND THE COMPANY WAS PLANNING A LONG MJF REIGN. A burial is when somebody's value is intentionally destroyed. Jay White did his job, just like he has jobbed to many people throughout his career. It wasn't a BURIAL when he got beat by Ibushi or Ospreay or anyone else. You are abusing this word to signal your protest against AEW.
>>19048395
OVERCOMING
THE
ODDS
IS
NOT
GARBAGE

The fumble meme? I think that the pigs gave up on it a while back. Seems just like their slopfed they can't get anything over.

>>19045771
>p-please ignore the lack of audience, on going list of injured stars, lack of ratings, failed video game, broken connections, failed tv show, and various scandals!

enough about WWE

>>19045881
kek he got bullied into no longer using "singular"

>>19048397
I didn't read your wall of seethe but from glancing at it I can make out a lot of random capslock so I assume it's deranged. Anyway, Jay White losing to a one-legged cripple torpedoed his career. And then he got choked by Marina Shafir. He's never coming back from any of that. Even if he went to WWE I don't think they could rehab his image from the level of burial that was inflicted on him.

>>19048434
You're lying and I hope it corrodes your soul

>>19048425
The singular AEW fan is shitting his pants with rage and hallucinating that everybody he doesn't like is his boogeyman again. Schizophrenia is a terrible illness and I hope that one day, for his sake, science can find a cure.

>>19048439
I haven't told a single lie ITT and if I asked you to explain what you think I'm lying about, you wouldn't even be able to.

>>19045729
Tony chose CM Punk, that's why he gave him the fattest contract, the most TV time, all the wins, the top belt (twice), his own show, and personally removed anybody from backstage that he thought might cause issues with Punk.

Unfortunately Tony's choice ended up damaging AEW because the person he chose sought to bury the company and attack his co-workers in it due to his paranoia and other untreated mental illnesses. And it was only after the second assault was Tony forced into going back and admitting he was wrong and correcting his decision.

>>19048397
lmao what a fucking stooge, if you're going to have the guy put the other one over that's easy but you don't book that trash because you bury both of them and pro-wrestling as a whole, genuinely one of my most hated matches ever

>>19048460
Explain how a babyface overcoming the odds is trash booking.

>>19048453
Punk didn't want his own show and told Tony it wouldn't work. Collision was the dog wanker's attempt to somehow placate both sides even though it was impossible to. He tried to choose both Punk and The Elite, then after Punk humbled Jungle Bitch he made the horrible mistake of choosing The Elite. And that's how we got to where we are today, with Dynamite doing between 300k and 400k in the ratings.

>>19048003
>proceeds to try to take down any video that showed this
>AEWfags doesn't know the difference between a shove and a punch
If the footage was to show how bad Punk is, it did the opposite.
I remember there being another moment Tony to scrub from the internet.

>>19048480
Tony would look like an even greater bitch than he already did if he did nothing in response to Punk assaulting Jungle Boy. It would completely destroy all his authority and the rest of the lockerroom would question his leadership and it could bring down AEW.

>>19048463
>overcoming the odds
MJF going into the match with a broken leg and winning wasn't a case of overcoming the odds. It was a case of making Jay White look like a total weakling who couldn't even beat a guy who went into the match with a broken leg.

>>19048490
Wrestling isn't real, it's fantasy. It's drama and storytelling. If you can't get on board with this and meet them at the basic level required to buy in to what is being presented then you have no business watching wrestling. Go and fuck off and complain about Irish whips not being real moves.

>>19045697
the show doesn't have to end for it to die, tna has been dead for years because nobody watches it, continuing to exist as a husk of its former self isn't exactly living.

>>19048506
>continuing to exist as a husk of its former self isn't exactly living.
It's what WWE has been doing for 25 years

>>19048486
Tony should've fired The Elite and their whole clique in the immediate aftermath of Brawl Out. Punk never would've choked Jung Bitch if Jungle Bitch had been future endeavored before All In happened.

>>19048508
>Tony should've fired The Elite and their whole clique in the immediate aftermath of Brawl Out
For what? Being punched?

Everyone is saying Punk but it was a tugboat battle royal where Tye Dillinger got eliminated by that guy with no legs and Dreamer ate Sonny Kiss’s ass

>>19045684 (OP)
The fans. They were gatekeeping and being insufferable from day 1. Do not welcome them back to the WWE universe when AEW officially folds.

>>19048498
>Wrestling isn't real, it's fantasy. It's drama and storytelling.
Yes and? Jay White losing to a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest buried him forever. There was no explanation for Jay losing other than "he sucks so bad he can't even beat a cripple". Then the Marina Shafir thing happened which buried him to levels previously thought impossible.

>>19045729
>>CM Punk, who wanted AEW to put on the best shows
Punk's Collision was god awful. It being a tad better than Dynamite wasn't much of an accomplishment

>>19048531
You're just a miserable cunt and I'm done here

>>19045771
>>19045776
AEW is a tax shelter

>>19048531
I think the one leg could have worked as an odds thing if they didn't do any of the other bullshit gimmicks but they still did every one of them on top of it, interference, full beatdowns for forever, every little bit and then lolmjfwins. That's one of the most WWE matches that AEW ever put on. Anyone with a brain hates the fuck out of that match.

>>19048512
>For what?
For being dimeless shitters who were dragging AEW down and starting shit with its biggest star because he wanted the company to do well.

>AEW guys no sell moves too much
Hmm
>MJF sells his leg against Jay White
NO THAT'S TOO MUCH SELLING, YOU'RE BURYING HIM BRO

>>19048512
because they're dimeless antidraws, ya fuckin mark.

>>19048545
They didn't start anything with him. He began attacking them in public over his issues with Hangman and when they went to talk about it, he punched them.

>>19048553
They created AEW and Punk couldn't work a match without getting injured, he was also mentally unstable, unreliable and unprofessional

>>19048557
>They created AEW
that would be Cody Rhodes, actually

>>19048560
Would be a great gimmick actually. If Cody ever comes back to AEW he debuts as a heel and claims it was all him, and they show footage of him doing All In with all the others airbrushed out.

>>19048537
Everything I've said ITT is correct. My logic has completely destroyed your emotional argument that was based purely on feelings and denial, much like MJF destroyed Jay White's career, except I'm not crippled so actually your loss is less embarrassing than Jay's. I understand why you're surrendering and I accept it.

>>19048570
ok smark

>>19048003
>people at the aew show chanted for CM Punk
The young bucks actually celebrated getting rid of their only draw.

>>19048580
Based EVPs

>>19048568
Cody has proven himself to be an actual draw who understands the pro wrestling business, while Kenny, hangma'am and the cucks continue to prove that they're clueless antidraw indyshitters. just facts, my nigga.

>>19046087
It's hilarious that Joe still leads with his left feet when walking over to try and break it up.
Regal would be proud.

>>19048554
>He began attacking them in public
Which was based and justified. Tony refused to fix any of AEW's backstage problems so Punk decided to pull the lid off it.
>when they went to talk about it, he punched them
This was also based and justified

>>19048550
The problem wasn't MJF selling his broken leg. It was MJF selling his broken leg for the entire match and winning.

>>19048580
I think the Young Cucks are completely fine with Dynamite doing 321k / 0.07 and AEW running Taco Bells as long as they get paid and get to wrestle with their dimeless indie shitter pals. Which is exactly why siding with them was a deathblow to AEW.

>>19048498
>Wrestling isn't real, it's fantasy
Sports Entertainment is fantasy. Not Wrestling.

>>19048628
aew is fake and also isn't entertaining so what do you call it

>>19048554
>what is the Elite giving bullshit rumors to uncle Dave to discredit Punk
Punk called them out and he beat the Bucks up.
Isn't it odd how the Dimeless shitters like the Bucks, Hangman and Perry the one still mad about Punk? Omega already moved on.

>>19048596
>Tony refused to fix any of AEW's backstage problems
On the contrary, Tony removing Colt was him trying to remove what Punk saw as their backstage problems.

>>19048640
But they keep telling us that AEW is WRESTLING and not Sports Entertainment like WWE though.
Don't be rude, anon. They still have 300k people that enjoys it.

>>19048586
You're just a moron and a little console war dweeb. Keep fanboying over your favorite company like a mark.

>>19048657
your concession is accepted

>>19048646
>bullshit rumors
What part was bullshit? Colt being removed? That was true. Punk having issues with Colt? That was true. Tony removing Colt because of Punk's issues with him? That was true. Colt's friends being upset he was removed over politics? That was true. The only part of the story that isn't true, is the part about "the Elite" being the ones who informed WON about Colt's removal and the effect it had on souring the lockerroom.

>>19048662
Colt Cabana is a nothing wrestler and it wouldn't matter whether he was on the show or not. CM Punk is the biggest star aew has ever had. the gaylite having a tantrum because their friend who doesn't matter was taken off TV is the problem with aew in the first place, ya dumb fuckin tranny. don't you understand? you're just proving everyone's point that Kenny, the cucks and hangma'am are the problem.

>>19048670
>the rumours are bullshit
>okay they aren't bullshit, but it was GOOD that he was removed
This is what it's like arguing with Punkfags.
>the gaylite having a tantrum
What tantrum? Where? There was only one party having a tantrum, and he did it on live TV multiple times.

>>19048662
The rumors of Punk wanting Colt removed.
That shit was all Tony.

>>19048678
when did I say those rumors were bullshit? The only smart thing Tony Khan ever did was take Colt Cabana off TV to keep the only star he had happy, and then he even fucked that up because the gaylite threw a tantrum about it. are you dense?
>There was only one party having a tantrum, and he did it on live TV
yeah, hangma'am going off script on that promo was a fuckin pathetic tantrum, I agree

>>19048681
He said in public at the presser that he never wanted to see Colt again in his life. Punk's issues with Colt are the reason Colt was removed regardless of whether Punk explicitly asked for it. Punk not only caused the problem because of his unprofessional inability to let his grievances go, but he also refused to take responsibility for it happening too when Tony acted to try and please him. Punk was impossible to please because even appeasing him only makes him more angry.
>>19048684
>when did I say those rumors were bullshit?
The person I responded to used the phrase bullshit rumors and I quoted their post referring to the bullshit rumors that they thought were bullshit.
> the gaylite threw a tantrum
Where was this tantrum? When did it happen? What is the evidence for a tantrum?

>>19048692
>bullshit rumors
You mean the bullshit rumor that Punk demanded that Colt Cabana be removed from TV that Tony Khan himself said was bullshit? You mean that one?
>Where was this tantrum? When did it happen? What is the evidence for a tantrum?
Hangman had his tantrum on live TV my man. You can probably find it on YouTube tho

>>19048701
>Punk demanded that Colt Cabana be removed from TV
Nobody ever said this. Nobody ever claimed this. Nobody ever reported it. What they reported was that Punk's issues with Colt were the reason he was removed. That was true and not bullshit.
>Hangman had his tantrum on live TV
How come nobody knew that this cryptically worded promo was a tantrum until Punk mentioned it 6 months later? Do you know what a tantrum is?

>>19048707
>Nobody ever said this. Nobody ever claimed this.
nigga why the fuck are you lying?
>things make more sense when you have context for them
yes anon, that's true. I'm not sure what your point is here.

>>19048719
>nigga why the fuck are you lying?
The WON report was worded as "Colt was removed because of Punk's issues with him". Factual. Correct. Nowhere does it claim Punk demanded it or asked for it, but the truth is that Punk's grievance with him is the reason he was removed. Even Punk's denial he pretends he had nothing to do with it, which isn't true. He was the entire reason for it, and Tony was lying to try and cover it up and appease Punk.

>>19048728
>Even Punk's denial he pretends he had nothing to do with it, which isn't true. He was the entire reason for it, and Tony was lying to try and cover it up and appease Punk
sweet headcanon bro but I think your pds is breaking your mind

>>19048730
Are you claiming that Colt's removal had nothing to do with Punk now? For real? Lol.

>>19048731
no, but of course he should be off of the show to keep your top star happy. that's the right decision - it's you making up headcanon about Tony Khan lying to protect Punk that shows your pds headcanon, lil bro.

>>19045689
It's genuinely insane I don't even come here much anymore because it's just the same threads over and over again
And no before you ask or assume I don't watch aew

>>19048761
What "rumor" do you think is bullshit then? You just admitted it was true. The whole reason for Punk flipping out was over something you admit is true. It wasn't bullshit. Tony lied because he couldn't challenge Punk and tell him to his face that he removed Colt to please him because it would implicate Punk and corroborate the lockerroom's grievance. Even in the aftermath of trying to please Punk, Tony was going out of his way to try and please him.

>>19048767
my nigga don't come in here trying to agree with your own comment after you got btfo multiple times it's fuckin pathetic

>>19048778
That's my only post on this thread

>>19048776
>The whole reason for Punk flipping out was over something you admit is true
yeah, it's definitely true that the gaylite having a temper tantrum about Colt fuckin Cabana and trying to undermine punk to dirtsheets and during promos on live TV was all true, and Punk soloed Kenny and both bucks in a shoot for it. What's your question here?

>>19048788
>trying to undermine punk to dirtsheets
How is it undermining Punk to report that his issues with Colt resulted in Colt's removal? Why does that undermine him? Do you even know? If anything it makes him look powerful and influential.

>>19048788
>trying to undermine punk during promos on live TV
So Hangman is supposed to have a feud with Punk where he isn't allowed to indicate he has a problem with Punk or say anything bad about him? The absolute state of you guys.

>>19048800
>planting negative stories to your libtard smark fanbase about the company's top babyface is actually le good!
your concession is accepted.

>>19048809
nigga nobody even knew what the fuck hangman was talking about until Punk told us. you think a good way to build a feud is to cryptically shoot on a guy so nobody even knows what the fuck you're talking about other than the guy you're shooting on? Tony is that you?

>>19048815
>negative stories
How is it negative? Punk said he isn't here to make friends when he showed up. It's consistent with his character. How does it undermine him? Why must other people lie and cover up the negative consequence of Punk's behavior? If you're trusted to be a top babyface, shouldn't you act like one and not act in a way that causes people to resent you?

>>19048824
>you think a good way to build a feud is to cryptically shoot on a guy so nobody even knows what the fuck you're talking about other than the guy you're shooting on?
You don't need to catch the Colt reference to understand the broad bulk of Hangman's promo which is that he resents Punk's arrival and is fighting to protect AEW from Punk taking it over. It's a good angle for a feud, but Punk couldn't run with it because it bruised his ego.

>>19048828
but wait hasn't Punk been one of the biggest babyfaces in wrestling since all of that happened? where is everyone resenting him anon?

>>19048834
>where is everyone resenting him anon?
Can you not keep track of what is being discussed? We're talking about the lockerroom resenting Punk's inability to drop his grievances with Colt. If Punk were a pro, he would have ran with it and turned it into an angle, but it was too on the nose and it hurt his ego so he lashed out.

>>19048833
>It's a good angle for a feud
you're retarded

>>19048843
I'm not. I wasn't interested in their feud until that Hangman promo where it finally had something worth fighting about. The future of AEW was on the line. But Punk didn't want to play ball because (we learned later) he feared Hangman and was paranoid about him.

>>19048842
if hangma'am was a pro, he would have cleared the promo with punk beforehand instead of lying about what he was going to say. Punk is 100 times the star that page is - instead of shooting on pink like a little bitch, hangma'am probably should have just thanked him for the house and done as he was told.

>>19048853
He didn't say anything in the promo that buried Punk in the audiences eyes.

>>19045684 (OP)
pretending like the elite were any kind of draws of great wrestling minds because they had an internet show

>>19048866
You mean it's okay to shoot on your coworker live on tv as long as the audience thinks it makes no sense.

>>19048897
You're pretending that Hangman is in the wrong because Punk was triggered by something he said. He wasn't. Punk was being confronted by the consequences of his behavior and flipped out over it with his anger issues and untreated BPD.

>>19045729
What good wrestling? Lmao bitch ass punk is back to wwe and just doing Sloppa while AEW has 5star matches on the weekly

>>19048904
Don’t have kids. Like ever.

>>19045684 (OP)
The video game

>>19045684 (OP)
For me it was when they introduced a man as a female and the crowd cheered

AEW fans sicken me

>>19049350
Nobody has ever cheered for Nyla. They cheered when Nyla got beat by Riho.

>>19045684 (OP)
Beating nxt and then hiring all the nxt shitters. It was insane. It's like if the Germans in WW2 marched into France and then fired all their soldiers and hired the French ones. AEW has never to this day, recovered from Atom Smoll and his midget mates killing the ratings.

>>19049356
They cheered at the AEW inaugural kickoff where they paraded all their new stars on stage, including that flaming gay Orlando Jordan looking nigga.

It's incomprehensible to a leftist like you to understand why AEW likely lost 2-3 million future viewers that day and that's a shoot.

Tony's Dad is a fucking retard too.

>>19049621
I'm significantly more right-wing than you, libtard.

>>19046134
this is more humiliating than when ftr were dragging their asses on the ring over at WWE. i forgot why they did that but these two shitters should just call it quite and retire.

>>19045684 (OP)
losing CM Punk and choosing Jungle Boy. You need a top mainstream main event guy as an anchor and Punk was the closest they had Sting too I guess but he is gone now. I don't care how much you trannies hate him and the whataboutisms you will reply to this, losing him objectively hurt AEW in multiple ways

>>19048767
>n...n...no don't talk about declining ratings and ticket sales of as wrestling company in a wrestling board just concern troll and deflect to WWE!

>>19049646
>losing Punk is a bad thing
Yeah no. Jack Perry has far more potential than CM Punk, and if you want mainstream renown, we already have Ospreay and Okada. No sane promoter would ever keep Punk.

>>19045684 (OP)
It'll never die as long as the Khans are swimming in bumper cash - because Shad has seen his other businesses prosper with Tony distracted by his live action wrestling playset!

>>19049658
fucking kek! Jack Perry has no potential, Punk is box office, stop coping so fucking hard!

>>19049356
>>19049627
You literally watch AEW you fucking lying ass nigga! You'll never be Right and you'll never be a woman.

>>19049646
>choosing Jungle Boy
Tony did not chose him.
His exile was real and Perry turned it into an angle forcing Tony to bring him back to AEW or look like the bad guy.

Tony used it to force himself into the Fed's top storyline and when he got bored, he punted all of the Buck's Elite off tv.

>>19049801
We won. You'll never stop AEW.

>>19049845
>BlueSky screenshots
Yep, you're definitely an AEW dickrider. I bet you even like black people. Pathetic.

>>19049858
You're the one who uses ebonics, not me "nigga" ! Lol.

>>19045684 (OP)
Death blow was booking.
NXT managed to make AEW's goobers like Ricky Starks, Pillman Jr and "Men of the Year" Ethan Page and with minor tweaks managed to make them Saints, Lexis King, 'Canadian asshole' Ethan Page much more interesting and roster fitting character in quarter of the time of the time.
-Notice that I didn't say the best ever just interesting - they are doing something in the roster.

And while it's true for WWE too, especially this year, that they have way many catering regulars than they should, fans care for what they are doing or if they in a show. In AEW the situation has always been worse due roster bloat, revolving door booking between AEW, partnering indies, freelancers/indiejourneymen and ROH.
Only people who had been regulars and prominent are the ones that NEVER FUCKING GO AWAY LONG ENOUGH unless forced like Bucks, Jericho, Kenny, etc that don't understand the "we can't miss you if you don't go away" because its too subtle for them or they think people yawning and groaning at the sight of them is good heat

>>19049658
>Okada
>Ospreay
>mainstream

>>19045684 (OP)
I only really liked it during the punk and mjf feud. Went to shit once Punk got immediately injured starting out his title reign, never recovered

>>19045848
True. Getting all three was a big deal but then it all fizzled out

>>19045684 (OP)
Same reason as WWE and all those mudshows: Normal people don't watch wrestling.

>>19050684
They watch AEW the least though. 300k viewers? That's dogshit. Tony knows dogshit cause he gets it on his dick. AEW is dead. Bury it.

>>19050613
okada and ospreay were not big deals to anyone outside of the turbosmark virgins who already watched aew.

>>19050705
I don't care. Wrestling is gay and fake and I'll take any opportunity to shit on it regardless of whatever faggot promotion you stan.

>>19045684 (OP)
No idea

>>19046087
I demand the release of the Brawl Out footage
Imagine the lolz

>>19045684 (OP)
This picture made me laugh

>>19049658
>Jack Perry has far more potential than CM Punk
>if you want mainstream renown, we already have Ospreay and Okada
This bait's terrible but it popped me anyway kek

>>19049658
>Yeah no. Jack Perry has far more potential than CM Punk
you tell 'em sister

>>19049658
yeah potential for me to cum inside of

>>19045848
Still baffled Tony didn't put the belt on Osprey at the London show in 2024. He was white hot.

>>19048003
Still waiting on that bot report, meanwhile reddit is clearly astroturfed by AEW

>>19051961
aewtists got real quiet about bots all of a sudden hmmm

transcord is deploying Nash spam to slide. genuinely pathetic.

Letting an old out of shape fake skateboarder squash any young guy with any star potential for a year.

>>19053046
Really?

>>19047927
>profitable
source? i know it's something you mentally feeble retards like to parrot like it's fact but provide one source that isn't dirtsheet speculation.

>>19053803
aewtism means that sources aren't required when it's positive news about aew, dumbass

>>19053095
Who the hell are you referring to

>>19045684 (OP)
>Excalibur

>>19047927
>AEW
>Profitable
Lol

>>19045830
Grim

>>19045697
Gayew shows like Hampage have already been getting cancelled for their pissant ratings and the 2 remaining shows are doing similar ratings to that show. WBD has been moving Piggy Collision around all the time because they don’t give a fuck and it got cancelled for a Black Adam showing. Also their attendance for shows is very pissant and they’ve been lying about it at every show. Little Tony’s playtime is finished.

Canadian Destroyer spam. Dog dick heat.

Where to begin.

it was dead from the beginning since tony never had to worry about money and booked it like it was an e-fed. hiring every smark favourite can only take you so far. you could give tony the most popular wrestlers in a time where wrestling is more popular than ever and he'd still run it to the ground if he didnt have did daddy's money

>>19047927
>AEW exists because their WBD deal makes them profitable.
AEW isn't profitable. Try again.

People discount how much of a turn-off Excalibur must be on commentary to normies/casual wrestling fans. How many people has that dipshit driven away

>>19056219
TRUTH
NUKE

>>19056700
>Where to begin
At the Beguine.

If Hogwheels comes ITT just dump a cup of piss on his head - last time he cried like a little bitch

>>19048507
the topic of this thread is "what was the death blow for this retarded experiment (AEW)?" please try to stick to it

>>19057662
>false premise

>>19049902
This honestly AEW fucked up long before the Punk arguments, I remember not liking how they didn't pull the trigger on Daniels being champ as soon as they hired him because he had not only pedigree but he was a fan favorite.
>B-But Daniels didn't want to be champ
Though shit, Tony should have said you're either my champ or you might as well not work for me.
At least for a few months Daniel could have put AEW in good graces by being the champ.
Then a bunch of blunders with guys that were getting over but Tony seemingly forgot to time, like Wardlow, I know he was prone injury and whatever but Tony didn't do anything important with him after his MJF feud, kinda same with MJF he just became a whiny jew on tv doing faggotry like the rest of the clowns out there.
AEW doesn't have one single respectable champ and those who are "serious dudes" are treated like jabronis to the goofballs or they get involved in stupid retarded angles or overly produced matches that just stain their ability to get over as serious contenders.

>>19057643
Only Dwayne Johnson can do that

>>19045684 (OP)
Why does Tony Khan always fumble?

>>19045688
/thread

>>19045729
With Punk they would be in the same spot, maybe with 50k-100k more viewers or something like that. The reality is that there is no demand for two big wrestling companies in the US, the only reason why AEW even got a chance was because WWE was dogshit when AEW was being created so they had a chance to become an alternative, but once WWE managed to clean their brand once again, AEW lost its appeal. They never had a chance long term.
I'm not saying Tony didn't shit the bed though, he surely did a bad job at managing AEW, but even if he did a good job, AEW popularity wouldn't be so different.

>>19058171
>Though shit
What kind of language is your native language to overlook something like this? It has to be a one that has both unaspirated T and aspirated TH, like Hindi or another south Asian language.

>doing faggotry
nevermind, I take back everything I said, you are approved

>>19048003
I can't believe Punk got worked into a shoot by a kid half his age.

>>19057643
Did he really? Lmao

>>19060059
Speaking of fumbling do you think he cares about his Dad's NFL team anymore

>>19061869
>a kid
nigga jungle bitch is grown.

My oh my this thread is informative

You tell us. I have no earthly idea

No idea

Tony didn't read the contract.

>>19057033
>People discount how much of a turn-off Excalibur must be on commentary to normies/casual wrestling fans
Why is he so bad? I always hear people say this. I dont watch gayHIVew

Brawl Out and the CM Punk interview

Punk leaving. He was the only voice that wanted them to grow and appeal to more fans instead of just playing with his friends on Tony’s dime.

>>19045684 (OP)
>Picking Cody over The Cucks
>Antagonizing CM Punk so much that he ran back to WWE
>Listening to Meltzer

>>19058171
I forgot about the Danielson title scene absence!
Yeah that was counterproductive as fuck, heel champ Bryan putting anyone new over would have instantly made their career rocket. They wasted so much time trying to get Cocksniffer Garcia over with Danielson who preferred the rub of Bryans cock on his face.

And the never ending Yuta pushes. That man is never going away and never asking why people aren't happy to see him again. Completely no career trajectory simply because he's the resident grandmas coffee table everyone is used to seeing.

>>19061821
Nobody cares about your spellchecking. If we'd care about spelling on this garbage spam board we still wouldn't ask you.

>>19067103
I hope you get fucking rape

>>19045684 (OP)
Hangmaam and the elite pushing Chez out of the company

>>19067103
By the time Daniel took the belt the damage was done and the company started to flop.
If I recall Bryan got the belt after Punk left and it was basically an emergency situation because AEW didn't had a single viable world champion at the time.
Yeah also pairing him with so many jobbers like Yuta and Garcia, which by the way booking them in anything else than multi man curtain jerking matches shows how retarded Tony is. These guys are jobbers and they will never grow above that ceiling which diluted Bryan to me as a guy that was his fan, it did irreparable damage to his image.
Which I know it's all subjective but Tony needs to understand how the way he presents his product alienates people over time.

>>19067207
Did you mean "raped"?

>>19067410
You need get raped faggot

>>19067392
Yeah, that sounds about right on the timeline.

The young talent will always stay permajobbers with the way Tony and pals book them and present them as bag carriers to the stars but without proper pay offs and developement - they skipping beats and pages of the their story arc to get them rising from their status quo.

There's positive exceptions like first run Acclaimed, Bangbanggang, Initial Callis family but they always get milked dry or derailed.The follow through doesn't work .

>>19067463
Oops, looks like you missed a dot in your projection there buddy.

>>19067483
You need be fucking raped dude

>>19067492
Wtf is wrong with you bruh?

>>19067889
You Are biggest fucking rapebait piece of Shit dude you need be raped bad

>>19068077
Seek help

>>19069179
You need be bleeding from fucking asshole pig

>>19069179
Fuck you

>>19045684 (OP)
The Elite

Showing the Punk footage will always be number 1.

>>19045684 (OP)
Tony Khan building the company around old ex-WWE guys and NXT B&G shitters.

It was over when Tony was such a pussy that instead of being a boss, he fixed the Elite/Punk situation by giving Punk his own show

That's not how Vince would have e handled it

>>19070305
It's weird how he fired Bobby Fish and his friends were so rich now they just didn't give a fuck.
I guess the "mini-kliq" was partially successful. It just turned out that Bobby was the Justin Credible of the group.

>>19045830
Meltzer's dream fed getting mogged on youtube by Gamesack

>>19070305
Yeah, we needed more Young Bucks, Wheeler Yuta, and Daniel Garcia. Swerve and Hangman are massive draws too.

>>19070361
Vince would have never hired jungle faggot and the fucks in the first place

>>19048359
>basically ruined his career
That match was retarded but how can you be this gay? Was Hunter's career ruined after Warrior buried him? If one burial match ruins your career youre not made for this business.

>>19071977
This. You could make an argument that tna 20 years ago should have done more to push their younger and more unique guys. But the talent just isn’t there anymore. Everyone outside of wwe doesn’t even have the sense to do moves they are physically incapable of doing.

Honestly I have no idea

exploding sparkler ring

>>19073507
LMAO

I think Shahid should take over. He could run it better.

Brown owner

>>19073759
This

>>19073759
He would at least interview prospective bookers and choose the one who most sounded like he knew what he was talking about.

>>19048129
Trev, you've been on wrestling message boards for a quarter of a century and your banter and debate skills are this shit? Holy fuck.

>>19074817
>>19075440
I think he would handle the Punk situation very differently since Punk wasn't his personal hero or whatever. You'd get less filler on the roster since he's not a fan. That's bare minimum. I legitimately think Shad would be a step up.

>>19045684 (OP)
DAY 1

>>19075602
I remember the stories that Tony would mark out backstage for punk segments/matches

It was all over when they decided to pander to mentally ill faggots. So, day one.

>>19078298
I'm not mentally ill

>>19078828
Sure, faggot.

>>19045684 (OP)
>1 guy talking to himself
the thread

>>19045684 (OP)
You tell me

>>19079799
AEW was dead the moment they had Bret Hart present their fake World Title.

>>19079910
Where was Rasta Man when we needed him?

GORE!

This must be what he's trying to slide kek

>>19080762
Don't worry I had an anon on watch duty.
He likes to let 'em get to Page 9 where Wheel's hopes are the highest and then
>WHAMMY!!!

>>19045684 (OP)
Probably when NXT joined CW. Game over for Toney.

>>19047273
this

>>19080793
Is this real?

>>19045684 (OP)
Pandering to joshipedos

>>19083871
This. Fuck them.

>>19045771
>lack of audience
selling most seats everywhere they go
>lack of ratings
cable is a dying medium. Until we get stream numbers this take is worthless and has been for years.
>failed video game
No numbers
>broken connections
TNA and AAA? The TNA deal only did numbers for TNA. AEW was trying to double deal with AAA and CMLL which was never going to work. At least now they can fully commit to a deal now that AAA is going to be NXTMexico next year.
>failed tv show
"et's not pretend WWE hasn't got some "failed" shows too. But being able to expiriment and not get hurtby a failure is a sign you're running a healthy business
>various scandals
No sex trafficing though.

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>>19045684 (OP)
Dumb porky cunts like you who don't know what reality is.

>>19088800
He was adding sage. It bumped with your reply

>>19045689
>It still exists therefore it's not dead!
Why are AEWtists such fucking retards?