Thread 19190552

Is the WWE product really that bad?

>>19190552 (OP)
Jim has shit on WWE for literal decades.
The only people surprised by this are AEW cultists that pretend to know the industry, but only ever watched WWE post-2000.

>>19190552 (OP)
it's painfully boring

>>19190565
>but only ever watched WWE post-2000
There are people now in their 30s who are too young to remember the Monday Night Wars. This is normal

>>19190552 (OP)
He's boycotting WWE until the put the belt back on Rhea and/or Charlotte.

the PLE’s usually have a couple good matches, but yes the weekly tv shows are absolutely unwatchable

Then what the hell is he watching? AEW to complain?

The top women on Raw are pretty much the only thing worth watching on that program and he hates them
and 20 minutes of US open challenge for Smackdown, but he doesn't give a shit, Ilja and Sami of all people, and whoever they're fighting, are the only exciting thing in WWE and they knock it for no good reason
It's overdue, his reviews are boring as fuck anyway, even worse than watching the actual show
he should start working on an actual shorter chronological historical deep dive podcast instead, they could interview people and shit and it would make this stuff worth listening to again, I've skipped pretty much everything since he purposefully didn't watch the only interesting match at wrestlepalooza

I like how last wants to shit on punk but always backtracks by saying it's the booking's fault not his. When cornette says that for people he likes he actually believes that in his schizo mind of course.

WWE is unwatchable trash produced for the retarded.

>>19190629
He watches AEW because complaining about AEW pays the bills.
Complaining about WWE doesn't.

>>19190676
Only the most ridiculous segments now get views, most don't even break 10k

Cus WWE vids and takes don’t give him any views since the edrones that like him don’t even watch WWE themselves. They just want/waiting for him to shit on AEW again, guess that’s where the money is for Jim when you are just drama shit stirring faggot

>>19190681
Don't get me wrong, I'd do the same if I were in his shoes.
The day when both these companies kick the bucket can't come too soon. But sadly, it won't.

>>19190629
It's his job. He gets $5-15k for each of those god awful ads. And reviewing a guy slipping on a banana peel gets more views than reviewing a guy not slipping on a banana peel.

>>19190552 (OP)
The amount of damage Jim Cornette has done to AEW can not be overstated. This old boomer has caused so much backstage drama. Just look at CM Punk.. he is a big fan of Cornette and listening to the show put bad ideas in his head and caused him to lash out.

TL;DR: Tony Khan needs to fucking sue the shit out of Jim Cornette

>>19190552 (OP)
It feels like the same show every week. Triple H sucks.

Cornette's youtube channel views and growth have been plummeting all year

>>19191188
shouldnt have fired the thumbnail chud

>>19190716
>5k-15k for ad reads
Maybe if you're Rogan level but even big podcasts mention how it's a couple hundred bucks if that

>>19191038
You need to sue your psychiatrist because that shit ain’t working

>>19190565
>only ever watched WWE post-2000
then how did they ever become a fan?

>>19191200
You are wildly misinformed on how much money these idiots are making.

>>19190552 (OP)
his channel is dying anyway

>>19190552 (OP)
he still likes a lot of talent there and doesn't think they have been ruined. He just thinks they are spinning their gears and he isn't exactly wrong but I still think they have enough good shit to pay attention to the bigger shows. Last night and Crown Jewel were both good. The other thing is they are always weak this time of year every single year and all the smarks complain about it and forget that this happens every year. Post-summerslam and pre-survivor series is usually always a drag.

>>19191225
Jim's Social Blade for his channel is pretty good but far from what regular normie YouTube channels earn or make. His Patreon has 2k members yet it's free so anyone can sign up so hard to say how much are paying him the only option of $5. He doesn't track in the Top 100 of Sports related podcasts on Apple.
Jim is making good money but not 5k ad reads dude lmao

>>19190552 (OP)
No one cares about this left-wing grifter

the amount of ads is WWE level.

>>19191188
So that's why the Spotify podcast feed is loaded with local ads.

>>19191344
Didn't know sponsorblock worked on Cornette's channel. Might have to get it now. Really funny to think some anon manually letting the extension know what to skip in Cornette's videos lol

>>19190552 (OP)
>cucknette's opinion

>>19191375
it's been me occasionally lol.

>>19191468
kek based

what happened to the rhetoric you guys had about how cornette was a wwe dicksucker
now he's all of a sudden not? make up your minds you aew marks

>>19191225
$5,000 a week equals $260,000 a year. There's no way some magic cereal, dollar razor blades, Raycon or whatever else is making enough profit off him to spend that.

>>19191383
Ciampa looks so weird without a beard…

>>19190629
AEW is at least entertaining to talk about. It's the same reason people talk more about Vince Russo booking late WCW like utter dogshit than it being equally dogshit in the early 90s. Judy Bagwell on a Pole Match is simply more interesting to muse on than something that is fundamentally sound but low quality.

Listening to someone crap on something he doesn't like isn't really sustainable

he knows he can't shit on people like Punk because it'll turn what's left of his declining audience against him.

>>19190552 (OP)
Non console fags have been saying for years that WWE and AEW both suck

>>19191468
Thank you anon clap clap clapclapclap

>>19191654
but people come to 4chan and experience that on a regular basis

>>19191721
I just do it if I get to a video early and nobody else has done it cause thousands of times someone else has done that and helped me out, so it don't hurt to help out myself once in a while. The ads get so fucking long.

>>19190552 (OP)
Cornette's shows are doing shit numbers because he continues to insist on not getting reviews up until nearly a week later. Other popular reviewers are doing post-show reviews or next-day reviews, who the fuck wants to wait an entire week?

>>19191344
>17 minute video about how WWE has too many ads
>over 7:00 of that is an ad read

>>19191375
It's surprisingly reliable and bless those who contribute. I couldn't imagine going through their stupid ad reads ever again

>>19191766
Because Cornette really does not need the money at this point and this is just something a bored retired guy is doing as a hobby. It's the same reason he completely ignores some topics that would be a hot discussion and also spends hours bitching about shit like his local post office. If the entire YouTube revenue stream died tomorrow I don't think it would do much to hurt his bottom line, this isn't Eric Bischoff where he is constantly throwing money at failed ventures

>>19191785
We all know how Cornette is. His comment section will be full of people telling him he's only making himself irrelevant, so he'll lash out, double down and never review Raw again...making the self-fulfilling prophecy come true.

He's not the only one, there's teenage retards on social media who piss and moan every time their fantasy booking doesn't come to fruition. It's tiresome at this point. Companies aren't going to switch every title, sign every free agent, remove every ad and sponsorship, book a Tables Ladders and Chairs Exploding Lights Out Deathmatch, all because your shitty twitter fagpost got 7500 likes.

Old fans, young fans, everyone needs to stop being such fucking whiny bitches. You can't Red Wedding a wrestling promotion 7 times a year, every year, it doesn't goddamned work.

>>19191775
Cornette has never really touched the too many ads part of WWE discourse yet, this video was more about nothing feeling like anything and the show just being boring. >>19191775

>>19191188
Cornette doesn’t even get mad anymore. He pretty much just shrugged his shoulders and no-sold the fishtank spot. 10 years ago Corny would have done a 30 minute long rant about how Moxley and Darby should have been boiled alive and had their fat turned into soap. Now you can already envision what his reviews will be word for word before you even listen to them. It doesn’t help that Brian Last is baked out of his mind for the podcast and doesn’t add a God damned thing aside from just saying “yeah” every now in then when Cornette has to wake him up. Honestly it’s just time to end the podcasts and just do reaction vids when something crazy happens like the Vince McMahon scandal.

by the time he's reviewed shows you've forgotten what happened and he doesn't give a shit anymore because he knows the wrestling business is dead
he doesn't even get that angry about russo anymore, he just rolls his eyes

>>19191914
He needs a new cohost who will bring some life out of him, Brian is good when they talk about boomer shit because he knows what Jim is talking about but for reviewing weekly wrestling he's useless.

>>19190552 (OP)
I stopped listening to him some years ago, but it's clear he is not a fan of the current wrestling product probably in any company. He wants wrestling to go back to what it was when he was a kid. He probably hates that wrestling companies are national/international and wants the territories back. He hates the cartoony gimmicks and just wants wrestlers like The Midnight Express. He definitely hates flippy shit. The last time I heard him say something nice about a wrestling show was NXT when Adam Cole was on the show.

>>19191188
Good
Death to "influencers"

It wouldn't generate clicks for him but I think it'd be more interesting to make Cornette watch promotions he's unfamiliar with and review it blind just off what he's seeing. You'd probably hear more interesting commentary from him that way.

>>19191988
Have him dedicate an entire year watching only lucha wrestling

>>19191988
have him watch the new russo booked jcw

>>19191988
Yeah he should take listener suggestions on shit he hasn't watched and review that

>>19190552 (OP)
The only good promotion right now is TJPW.

>>19191986
Who the fuck is the gay fatass on the right?

>>19190552 (OP)
he doesnt like all those chinese lady wrestlers

>>19190552 (OP)
He's an out of touch boomer but he does understand wrestling on a fundamental level and for the most part WWE is not wrestling anymore. I don't blame him

>>19190552 (OP)
Its been bad for 20+ years and just somehow keeps getting worse.
Them going PG was what really fucked them
I dont want to watch Wrestling kiddy shit
Wrestling is fucking shit these days my choices are
Lame boring Kiddy shit (WWE)
gay tranny faggot shit (AEW)

>>19192118
Vaush

>>19191188
People want to hear Jim get mad, and he doesn't get mad anymore.

>>19190634
Half of Raw now is either Japanese women who can't speak English or hispanic women. Jim hates women and minorities so there's a huge chunk of the show he's not gonna like. If the show was nothing but Punk and Rhea squashing everybody he would say its the greatest thing ever.

>>19192434
He gets mad about political stuff and no one wants to hear his uninformed political takes on a wrestling show.

>>19191344
Love cornette's ad reads

>>19191188
it's because wrestling is deader than ever and we're in no man's land between big shows
it's no surprise that his most popular time was during the build to wrestlemania

i honestly don't know why jim just doesn't choose a period or promotion that he's either watched, worked, booked or has no familiarity with, and watch it, he would be happier and people would probably watch it.

>>19191221
By reading about how wrestling is "redneck anime" on reddit.

>>19190565
>IT'S THE AEW FANS

nah pretty sure it's the parasocial weirdos who believe WWE is "good old wrestling" because they watched it when they were kids

>>19190682
also this

>>19190552 (OP)
Yes

>>19192794
>and people would probably watch it.
but people love when jim throws a shitfit over a dumb wrestling spot or angle or booking decision in general
he just seems to have resigned because it's too frequent and it needs to be less frequent
because how can i miss a fuckup if it won't go away

>>19190682
also his jew genuinely likes aew and wants jim to talk about it with him

>>19190552 (OP)
you cant make content from it
its not good like a 6/10 (aew is like a 2 btw) thats wait untill the ple no little stories getting told during the show nothing to really talk about cause you know whats gonna happen