Thread 81473839

Everyone has problems. If people feel like they need revenge for their problems everyone will just hate each other and everything gets worse.

>>81473839 (OP)
counterpoint: have u considered

>>81473839 (OP)
True but my problems are bigger than yours

>>81473839 (OP)
yes, but it's easier to blame others for your problems. in most cases, revenge is the personification of that blame. in others, people are overwhelmed by their problems and can't think rationally.
everyone has problems, but not everyone can handle them, so we need to help each other.

my problems are over 9000 XD

>>81473894

What does this have to do with anything lol.

>>81474030
Everyone has problems, but not all problems have the same degree.

>>81474136

That's just another way of phrasing the same irrelevant thing. What am I missing. This doesn't change the fact that revenge is bad.

>>81474208
>This doesn't change the fact that revenge is bad
>"revenge is le bad because... It just is, okay?"
That doesn't seem like good reasoning to me.

>>81474229

I have reasons actually but this is about OPs post. Yours doesn't actually address their reasoning. If it does then how does some people having bigger problems than others change the fact that revenge is bad? Lol.

>>81474245
What I mean is that there are some things that are easier to let go of than others. It's different to forgive someone who was mean to you in traffic than it is to forgive someone who ruined your life.
>Lol
You didn't even laugh irl.

>>81474365

>there are some things that are easier to let go of than others.

Ok. And? A little kid has a difficult time not throwing a tantrum and flips his plate on the floor. It's still bad for him to have trantrums and make a mess. How is the fact that he can't control himself relevant to if it's bad or not?

>You didn't even laugh irl.
I don't care enough about anyone to make things up about them.

>>81474465
You're basically saying to me that if someone can't stop himself from doing something wrong, that it would still be wrong. But I never said that revenge is a bad thing, I just said that in some cases it may be ignorable.
>I don't care enough about anyone to make things up about them
Good.

>>81474554

You didn't say either lol. That's why I was trying to find the relevance.

>But I never said that revenge is a bad thing, I just said that in some cases it may be ignorable.

So, what, any instance that you have a bigger problem then someone revenge is okay or?

>>81474657
Please, put more effort on your grammar. I would appreciate it if you could also respond to my post with another pic as well.
>redditspacing
Kind of funny to see it on 4chan too btw.
Anyway, if you ask me when it's okay to get revenge, I'd just say that you can do it on any occasion that someone has done you any harm. In the original post, you created a scenario where everyone takes revenge for everything that has ever happened to them, and you say that in this hypothetical example humanity would end, and that this is therefore wrong. But just because something has consequences, I don't think that makes it wrong, also, the example is unrealistic. They say that if everything was an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, the world would be full of blind people. But a world full of blind people is better than a bunch of trash that can see.

>>81474764

>Please, put more effort on your grammar. I would appreciate it if you could also respond to my post with another pic as well.

So long as someone understands what I'm saying idc about grammar spelling etc.

>In the original post, you created

I'm the person you've been responding to for a while now, not OP

I'm only going to go so far in defending OPs argument but it seems disingenuous to think that OP meant revenge is bad because of the insanely small chance that one day everyone will hate eachother. Taking OP literally there is wild. Right now I'm making a correction of your response to OP and where it goes wrong in addressing what she likely meant if you care at all about understanding that.

The purpose of some principles isn't to prevent extremely unlikely scenarios. For example the age of consent is at 18 not because we dont think there are no mature 17 year olds. There are definitely a few out there who can handlena relationship with an adult. It's that the line needs to be drawn somewhere because we've decided the consequences of not drawing it are worse than drawing it somewhat arbitrarily. What do you think of that?

>But just because something has consequences, I don't think that makes it wrong
>But a world full of blind people is better than a bunch of trash that can see.

So that is what you were trying to address, I see.

>>81474997
>Taking OP literally there is wild
I think you missed my point, I didn't say or believe that any of that could happen, and I know that OP also didn't, that's obvious. I meant to say that precisely because this example is so far from reality, we cannot base ourselves on it.
>What do you think of that?
I think it's valid, but it needs to start from a better basis. For example, we draw a line at the age of consent because there are good reasons to think that someone too young shouldn't be in a relationship with an adult, but there is no reason given to explain why revenge is bad (for OP at least).
>So that is what you were trying to address
Well, yeah. That's my opinion.

>>81473839 (OP)
I miss when it didn't feel like you had to meet such an exhaustive list of requirements just to talk to someone and pass whatever criteria they use to determine that they won't fuck with you forever now

>>81475388
talk to me i like tuna

>>81475409
Kuranariiiiiii

>>81475358

I see "everyone gets worse" as when we act on revenge it deflects from the issue which is the fact that there's no standardized protection of emotions in society. There's laws that stop things that result from revenge but laws don't target revenge. They target murder, assault, stalking, property destruction etc. There should be a line drawn somewhere for morality as it concerns mental health instead of just physical health and OP doesn't think revenge has a place in it. I don't think so either. To me that looks like philosophy taught in school and reinforced culturally. That's my steelmanning of her argument anyways lol. What do you think?

>>81476117

Also let me just add, revenge is always wrong lol. Sure consensual pain and playful "revenge" exist but I don't think those are the same ideas as when I say revenge. I mean one person getting hurt at a percieved wrong and hurting another back in a way they deem wrong. There are some things you can garner from such a dynamic at a cost, then revenge might be good and bad. But it's always bad at the very least and nothing good comes from it at worse.