a lot of people here probably arent nearly as ugly as they think they are, and just straight up suffer from low self esteem induced body dysmorphia. the sooner you admit that, the sooner you can come to terms with just being socially stunted instead.

aka normies, a lot of

I'll believe that I'm not a subhuman manlet when I have a girlfriend.

>>81513725 (OP)
>a lot of people here probably arent nearly as ugly as they think they are
correct. and it's annoying as fuck because lots of the faggots here are ACTUAL normalniggers trying too hard.

People here really don't believe in ugly people when they're anonymous, huh? Admit it OP, You've seen some hopeless ass people irl

>>81513725 (OP)
i am objectively ugly, 3/10. almost 33 and never had a woman flirt with me or have a full conversation with me. i have a longer philtrum and a huge ass midface. giant nose too. i also have ugly eyes that don't fit my face and make me look retarded. my only saving grace is good skin and hair genetics but they're wasted.

>>81513725 (OP)
I get rated a 6/10 on /soc/ by other guys
But irl I have never managed to get a girl interested in me so I think I have to be 3/10 at best. Your romantic and sexual success and attraction is obviously the most accurate measure.

>>81513725 (OP)
It doesn't matter if we aren't "that" ugly because you have to be above attractive to even be considered. I get what you're trying to do, but it hurts more than it helps.

>>81513725 (OP)
"Social skills" don't exist. Neurotypicals are just born with the right brain to communicate and read nonverbal signs. What people mean by "social skills" is really just masking, which any NT can easily see through.

>>81513776
i live in the US south, no shit ive seen some ugly ass people (and i cant judge too much they still had more relationships than me). i just think that its easier than ever in todays age of the internet for someone whos "5/10" to overtime convince themselves that theyre a 1/10 who looks like sloth from the goonies, just as there has been an epidemic of women who think they are far more pretty than they actually are.
>>81513860
i know it sounds cliche but personality and how you present yourself genuinely matters more for people who arent super models IE you and me. you arent always going to gel with someone online or offline, and thats ok, but as easy as it is to go "the common denominator is me, therefore it must be something about me", thats a quick way to fall down a hole of Self-deprecation that will likely have a bigger impact on you finding someone than how you look.

>>81513860
/soc/ users can be a bit harsh but just the right amount. 6/10 is a decent score, but one that will need to be paired up with string seduction skills to have good success

>>81513725 (OP)
>suffer from low self esteem induced body dysmorphia
I know this is true, but being average/below average and being socially stunted makes me as undesirable as someone who is a monstrous freak so what does it matter?
I will never have self-esteem, and I will never be able to speak to women because I lack confidence.
And it's really that simple.

>>81514183
>I will never have self-esteem, and I will never be able to speak to women because I lack confidence
you have to learn to weaponize your low self esteem. going from "why should i bother talking to her, shes never going to like me" to "shes probably not going to like me anyway so what do i have to lose by talking to this person ill probably never see again and who likely wont remember me" is how i personally have rationalized it. while i havent become some super confident chad its definitely helped with overthinking every interaction i have with women in general.

I'm so damn hideous man. And you can tell I'm off mentally. I'm as ugly as you can get without being deformed or fat.

>arent nearly as ugly as they think they are
Doesn't matter when 5/10 men are equal to 1/10 men in women's eyes

>>81514316
Has it resulted in anything good?

>>81514746
>not deformed
>not fat
thats literally 2 positives right there. you COULD be fat deformed and ugly. you have to work with what you have not what you lack
>>81514793
well like i said its help with how i view interactions with women and made me a little more confident in not masking when i talk to them, but if it were that easy i probably wouldnt be 25 and still unable to look women in the eye most of the time. small progress is still progress compared to doing nothing about it

>>81513725 (OP)
FALSE. Im a black girl, no one wants us

>>81515374
you're a black tranny thoever.

>>81515367
I think fat faces look better sometimes. Doesn't matter, I look retarded. You can't change retard faces.

>>81515388
May as well be I feel like thats how men think of us. Im not though, im a girl.

>>81515374
I have a fetish for black girls.
Are you tall? If you are tall then there is a good 8/10 chances you are hot in some way, the only way this isn't completely true is if you are fat, in which case you should lose weight.

>>81513725 (OP)
That is likely mostly true.
Still, she has no jaw. Even outside of >>>/tv/

>>81515410
Nta but how would being fetishized make anyone feel better? Its kinda dehumanizing.

>>81515427
Black women are proportionally less ugly than white women.
White women are to be very honest very strange looking, black women usually are simply obese, if they lose weight they are hot.
Hell, go look at the tribal african women in those nat geo documentaries and you will see.

>>81515389
has anyone told any of this to your face in the last 2-3 years?

>>81515487
I can tell by the way I'm treated. I get stopped by security sometimes because I'm so ugly. Ugly people are suspicious.

>>81515451
Youre the only man in history to have ever said this

>>81513725 (OP)
why are there so many snoodbros in /r9k/?

>>81515509
if they havent said that to you then that doesnt mean anything. its likely more about how you present yourself. as someone whos been told by my dad that i look like a homeless jihadi pic related with my facial hair and clothes, and who gets visibly anxious in public social places, i can tell you that i wouldnt be surprised if people thought i was fucking insane. that said people who know me personally know that im nothing like that. the best way i can put it is that a buff biker with tatts could be the friendliest guy ever but of course hes not going to seem very approachable to most people.

>>81515374
black girls are fine the problem is that it seems theyre either super high maintenance or no maintenance at all and dont take much care of themselves. if they love you, theyll love the shit out of you either way tho.

t. black anon

>>81515451
>>81515531
Indeed.
Why would anyone ever say such a thing?

Still, there's a bunch of hot women to be found in any ethnicity. No doubt.

Now, I am white banging the really, really hot black ones.

What will you do about that?

>>81515620
Her childlike features appeal to pedophiles, something this board has a lot of.

>>81515852
what? i just like unconventionally attractive girls

>>81515686
No dude no one wants black chicks

>>81515904
White girls cant really be unattractive

>>81513725 (OP)
>the sooner you admit that, the sooner you can come to terms with just being socially stunted instead.
I do though. I consider it a even worse pill though

>>81513725 (OP)
i am socially stunted and have low self esteem. that tends to happen when you're treated like shit every so often since you were a kid.

>>81513725 (OP)
>come to terms with just being socially stunted instead.
In what way? I had to work with the public and coworkers constantly, I still prefer time spent by myself and non-social events. Im just a bald-ass nigga, thats why women dont interact with me.