are moids just pretending to be doms? part of the reason why its hot is because they are into it too.. i dont want to be lied to if i ever have sex

>>81515558 (OP)
Yes. No one likes dominating. It's just an act like when you fake your orgasms.

>>81515587
ive never faked an orgasm though? and thats sad.. i would be open to being a switch if i had a moid that genuinely enjoyed domming :/

>>81515558 (OP)
>Okay okay now push me onto the bed
>Okay now pull my legs apart
>Nono dont go in that fast, choke me first
>Thats it, now slap me
>Slap me again
>Now enter me while you choke me and gaze into my eyes
>Call me daddy's good little girl in 10 seconds
The way women want to have sex is formulaic.

Stop spamming your lame ass replies

>>81515558 (OP)
Well, I like being dominant in the bedroom, but I don't have a dominant personality in day to day life, I just get along with people, and I think women, when they say they want a dominant man, don't really mean in the bedroom but they mean in day to day life, they want a man who is aggressive and has low inhibition and so on.

>>81515558 (OP)
It's like a less mature version of myself that I have to channel to get any amount of female attention

>>81515558 (OP)
Yes, most men are subs naturally. You can see this online for younger men who are pretty much always subs, look at the mommy dom trends and whatnot. Older men adopt a fake dom persona, because otherwise, they will be alone forever.

>>81515558 (OP)
Kek, it's because we live in a Peter Pan society and everyone wants to be coddled. I get a lot of enjoyment and satisfaction from dominating. I enjoy testing their devotion and loyalty to me by seeing how far they are willing to go for me. Another reason why it's uncommon is because a lot of people are easy so them submitting doesn't mean much because they've done it to many others.

>>81515558 (OP)
IF I EVER DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH A WOMAN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITH GOOGLE GLASSES TO SHOW ME COOL IMAGES ON PINTEREST LIKE BROLY'S CONTROL COLLAR SO I DON'T BREAK OUT INTO FULL-ON AGGRAVATED ASSAULT

>>81515558 (OP)
why do foids always gotta be choked and slapped to get any sort of satisfaction but at the same time they will deny they're into abusechads...

>>81515558 (OP)
not all men, but I think a lot are yeah. it feels very performatory and I pretty much just do it because of the pressure of that's what women want and expect.

also, note that when I say I don't want to be a dom, it doesn't necessarily mean that I want to be a sub either. in fact, I find the whole binary dom/sub dynamic in itself to be fake and performatory, and I wish that sex didn't need to have these roles associated with it, and could just be about connecting with somebody and sharing mutual pleasure. the moment you bring these roles into it, it becomes an act, you're playing a character, and it just doesn't feel right to me. but, that's what most people are conditioned to do. so if you want to get laid, you just have to suck it up and play the part you're expected to.

>>81515606
um thats a pretty generic way of doing it and i dont particularly like that. i like gentle domming more. maybe stop dating normie stacies

Im pretty subby but domming is fine too because pussy feels good either way and im a good actor and know what girls like when it comes to that shit

>>81515665
I will never stop dating stacies but the vast majority of women want something formulaic. Basically it's all clownsex, some just want a bigger show than others. The guy isn't even the dominant one if there are so many conditionals attached and he has to stick to a rough script.

>>81515651
why do you guys always assume that dominating always involves physical abuse? i dont like any of that stuff it turns me off and scares me.. do you know about gentle domming?

>>81515699
>Always assume
Im not into domming but every girl that ive been with wanted it, as did every girl my friends have dated.

>>81515660
i know but thats not an organic relationship
whats really hot is for the man to be so turned on by you that he shows you how much he wants you.. its not hot if it isnt genuine lust
and thats not to say i wouldnt do the same because i totally would

>>81515708
maybe you just dont choose good women because theyre your exes now.. and youre also ran through

Feminism caused men to become bitches
You asked for this

>>81515726
Most people are usually too tired and restrained to just give in that hard.
It doesnt help that women are the rejecters, not the initiators in sex.

>>81515739
I am in a happy relationship and have been for a while thankyouverymuch. Exactly a woman I DONT have to pretend with.
You're getting into bait territory tho.

>>81515726
You have to be ridiculously cautious, though. Misinterpret any of women's cryptic behaviour and you've committed sexual assault.

>>81515749
how is it my fault that a bunch of retards before me made this happen? dont put the blame on me idiot

>>81515651
>>81515708
YOU WANNA KNOW THE SECRET, KID? IT'S THE WOMEN'S VERSION OF THE "MADONNA WHORE COMPLEX" THEY ALWAYS LIKE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT WHEN GUYS THINK IT'S GROSS THAT THEY'VE SLEPT AROUND A FUCKTON.

THEY'RE EXCITED BY THE THOUGHTS OF GETTING SLAPPED AROUND AND CODDLED AND TREATED AS DESIRABLE ENOUGH TO BE TREATED LIKE AN ANIMAL, BUT THEY REALLY, REALLY WANNA HAVE THAT FANTASY OF BEING A PRINCESS AND HAVING A ROSY MARRIAGE AND BEING WITH SOMEONE NICE AND SWEET AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. THIS IS WHY THE BAD BOY ARCHETYPE IS SO COMMON, THEY WANT TO FIND THAT SWEET, GOOD-NATURED HUSBAND IN SOMEONE WHO THEY'RE ATTRACTED TO FOR SEXUAL REASONS AND/OR STATUS EXCLUSIVELY. THEY WILL NEVER, EVER FIND IT, AND THEY WILL ALSO NEVER, EVER LEARN.

THIS, OF COURSE, ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WITHOUT THE STRENGTH OF CHARACTER TO ACTUALLY CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IN THIS SECULAR SOCIETY WHERE PEOPLE ARE TOLD THEY CAN HAVE THE BENEFITS OF MORALITY WITH THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF MORAL RELATIVISM, THAT TENDS TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE. UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH GOOD MEN AND WOMEN WHO CAN RECKON WITH THIS ARE RARE.

I PITY THEM, REALLY.

>>81515558 (OP)
Only gay guys are dominant.

>>81515766
ok but this applies to men too idiot. all men want slutty stacy but have to settle for low tier beckies

>>81515781
OH WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN THE FIRST SENTENCE! LEARN TO READ!!!

SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE, BITCH!!! SARGENT D'S COMIN, AND YOU MADE HIS SHIT LIST!

>>81515761
i feel bad for your current girlfriend

>>81515790
youre not funny or quirky
it would be funny and quirky if it was genuine but youre just doing it to be le quirky

>>81515781
Actually I just want a cuddly foid who shows interest in me.

>>81515726
>i know but thats not an organic relationship
right, and that's why I've essentially given up on having an authentic relationship. I'm sure that there are authentic people out there, but they're unicorns. the vast majority of people are so wrapped up in the roles they're conditioned to play and the binary dom/sub framework that it's all they know. and once you become aware of the act, you will always be aware that you're playing a character, and can never fully give yourself to it again. so to me, sex is just an act. it's still something I want to do sometimes, but I don't pursue relationships.

>whats really hot is for the man to be so turned on by you that he shows you how much he wants you
that's fair, I think everybody wants that. yes, even men. but I don't think that needs to be defined by a dom/sub relationship.

>>81515798
I feel bad for your current nobody

>>81515810
you mean a cuddly stacy that shows interest in you

>>81515827
>stacy
No
Unless you consider "not morbidly obese" to be stacy, but that'd be a definition most don't agree with.

>>81515809
I'LL PUT YOUR FEEDBACK IN THE "COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE TOO WEAK TO BENCH 1PL8" BIN.

>>81515558 (OP)
I am more dominant by nature but I don't like the degradation stuff (ie slapping, choking, etc). I want to do more gentle, romantic type things with a girl. Very vanilla, I know, I just don't like bring degrading towards someone I'm supposed to love.

>>81515874
i dont like the choking and slapping either anon, domination doesnt have to be violent.

good afternoon
I NEED a submissive fembot to plap

>>81515558 (OP)
I want to be sexually dominant with a woman, but I want her to guide me through life.
I don't want a mommydom situation, but if you've ever watched the show Mr. Robot then you'd know what I want when getting glimpses of Tyrell Wellick's marriage.

>>81515889
this is just wrong and not what it means to be dominant

>>81515665
>I'm a whore and have casual sex but I'm still nothing like those normie stacies
>>81515766
Bardock TRVTHNVKE

>>81515884
Usually when people refer to a dominant role(at least here), it comes with the implication of degradation or some kind of masochistic/sadistic dynamic. I'm just possessive and a hopeless romantic.

>>81515905
You don't get to define that, sweety.

>>81515874
>>81515910
LE SIGH.... BASED AND VERY RELATABLE, I AM AFRAID. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE FOR SUCH LOVE.

>>81515909
nowhere did i say i had casual sex, why are you so mean and hate me? i never have casual sex and i havent lost my virginity yet

>>81515910
a possessive, soft dominant hopeless romantic bf would be my dream come true..

>>81515999
YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, THEY SAY THAT AND IT'S NEVER TRUE.

>>81515764
Im sorry youre right im an idiot I shouldnt have accused you like that

>>81515988
Are you just a gooner then? Why/how else do you have such detailed and specific expectations and views about sex?

>>81515874
>I just don't like bring degrading towards someone I'm supposed to love.
Same, it actively turns me off.

>>81515999
>a possessive, soft dominant hopeless romantic
basically me, maybe on the more introverted side.

>>81515999
Okay so when can we go on a date?

>>81516321
>Covered with bruises
>Collared
How is this soft dominant

>>81516330
>hickies aren't soft dom
>collars aren't soft don
probably be easier for you to make a list of what you consider soft dom at this point kek

>>81516357
Nah, its like dudes into pegging or chastity insisting its not hardcore.
I dont mind these things but lets be honest.
This made me realize that what pegging is like for men is slapsticksex for women

>>81516330
I just like the kissing part.

>>81515665
>>81515988
You have no idea what you actually like you stupid virgin

>>81516330
Here's a better one

Not most of them, but when like 97% of women are subs compared to 25% of men, something's gotta give.

I don't perticularly enjoy being dominant but I just am. Being a Sub feels like LARP and it makes it harder for me or my partner to cum.

>>81515699
>why do you guys always assume that dominating always involves physical abuse? i dont like any of that stuff it turns me off and scares me.. do you know about gentle domming?

Because I have a huge penis, women's first reaction to it is usually a fearful look, and they're usually being made sore or put in mild pain. Causing physical pain else where causes a pain gating effect where pain in one place will reduce pain somewhere else.

Generally I don't assume all women like the same thing. I think some women are essentially so numb that they need you to re-enact surprise sex in order to get shocked into wetting themselves, and others are so on edge that they'll basically get overwhelmed by getting spanked. Still, women generally are loathe to admit how rough they like it in bed.

>>81515763
Anon, you can be a gentle feather in bed and a woman can say that you pulled out a knife held it to her throat and violently surprise sexed her and shove a bottle up her snatch to fake the damage. You don't even need to have sex with her for her to do this.

The reality is that this happens to exceedingly few men and the only way to avoid it is to avoid sleeping with crazy and avoid pissing off women. Guess what, every time women have sex you could pretty easily hold them down and choke them to death and they still are tough enough to go through with it anyways. Being dominant and fucking women until they cum repeatedly and are mildly afraid of you isn't likely to end in getting V&.

It's also not that easy to get convicted of surprise sex, the consequences are mostly reputational, and a bunch of people will hate the women for daring to do this to you if you're even mildly socially competent.

>>81515558 (OP)
There's no such thing as dom/sub, that's faggot shit that has infected heterosexual norms.

>>81515558 (OP)
i don't get why you post here. were you born with a vagina? i'm sincerely curious

>>81515749
>implying that's a bad thing
Submissive men are peak.

>>81515909
>Bardock TRVTHNVKE
That's not Bardock nerd, that's Raditz with a haircut

>>81517604
Fuck, really? How can you even tell? The hair is the more differentiating feature to begin with

>>81517595
Thanks I needed that boost today

>>81515874
Dude, I'm exactly like that too, but I'm a sub, that's called bodyworship. . . People mistake being a sub, with being a bottom. A sub obeys, likes being controlled or degraded, a bottom likes being a "starfish" and have stuff done to them.

>>81516568
97% is bullshit, more like 10%-15% https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_submission ,

>>81516568
97% is bullshit, more like 80%-85% https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_submission

Yes we are just pretending because it's fucking annoying that every girl wants to be with some kind of rapist father figure in the bedroom. It's fucking weird. Be fucking normal I don't want to dominate you and pretend you're my daughter go to therapy please.

Moids cum from sex 99% of the time, women only 25%. Men absolutely do enjoy degrading and dominating women, the only ones pretending here anything are women.

>>81516568
>if you're even mildly socially competent.
Where do you think you are?

>>81515699
It's not but men like you absolutely overblown what violence is.
Women's body needs somewhat rougher stimulation than men's because they have more fat under their skin. So you need to press harder for sensation to reach. It's not painful. It's only painful for YOU(in your imagination) because you have completely different nervous system.

>>81518466
That's completely 100% bullshit, I find submissive women disgusting, and always felt self-conscious for being a sub.

>>81515558 (OP)
Yes. I absolutely perform it.
I mean sometimes I find myself really getting into it, but the majority of the time it is an act and a chore trying to act like an insecure asshole. But that's what women want. Not men who are comfortable with who they are, but the kinda little-dick pricks who are constantly trying to prove who they are and that they're good enough.

>>81515558 (OP)
>are moids just pretending to be doms?
Some are, but most guys just kind of need something to trigger them.

>>81515660
This dom/sub/bdsm bullshit is for retarded women to feel sophisticated. Sex has to be primal and visceral, you just gotta do what you want. Nothing better than ravaging a womans pussy until she loses her shit, pushes you down and rides you like her life depended on it until she cums, then you put her on four and press her head against the pillow and smash her till she pisses herself. It needs two to tango. Women wont shut up about le dommy and le daddy and le subby when in reality they are just a dead fish in bed. The funniest thing is when a woman acts uppity about a high body count (typical tattooed bitch full of piercings) and she says something like "yea im a slut ive banged 8 guys", i roll my eyes like bitch please, because shes always the deadest of fishes who talks nonstop about being choked and spanked but bitches when you do it. Just be normal, is it that hard for women to not fucking overcomplicate things? God, i miss when i was 20 and social media didnt brainrot everyone yet, people was normal and got along, now everyone is fucking autistic and retarded over the most insignificant shit

>>81515558 (OP)
Doms are so cringe to me like they think they can tell ME what to do??? hahahah. My brain just thinks 'go fuck yourself nerd' whenever someone tries to dominate me. I prefer when someone lets me tell them what they should do and someone who wants to pleasure and admire me. I am NOT your little 'slut' or 'whore' I am your GODDESS TYVM.

>>81519404
Stfu and go fuck yourself nerd. Nobody believes your self sufficient bullshit. You like taking it in the ass, begging for the guy to cum inside your intestines and licking the cock afterwards, you even say thank you. I read you bitches like a book

>>81519452
Youre delusional if you think all women want some guy to 'dominate' or 'use' her. I get turned on by admiration, worship and a mans willingness to please. I do like a good creampie at times though. He will NEVER be allowed to get into my ass unless we're married and it's a reward for after he gives me an incredibly good orgasm or 3.

>>81519475
That's very cool of you. I will instead choose a girl who enjoys pleasing me.

>>81515558 (OP)
>Pretending to be doms
You learn to either be a dom or be an incel whining about no gf. Women, contrary to whatever they might say, don't actually want a woman in a man's body. They want a man who acts like a man and makes the money like a man.

>>81519475
Yadda yadda yadda. Tell me more about how proud are you to be a whore but you expect for a pure christian dude who asks for consent before licking your pussy. You are all one and the same. 300% dead fish who bitches on twitter about how bad are men who dont make her cum while smashing her clit to pieces with the GIGABLACKCLITDEMOLISHER 5000 (TM)

>>81515606
Women are boring as fuck holy shit.

>>81515558 (OP)
There are tens, maybe even hundreds of subs for every eligible dom. Most women are highly afraid to truly submit. They will hen peck and try their best to sabotage everything and will only claim submission to refuse responsibility. Submissive men are used to standing in line, wasting their time, taking responsibility for a woman's shit tests, getting used physically, emotionally, financially and immediately tossed aside for the next chad or simp. The problem is that so many women are just completely lost, never even saw a daddy to know what one is off of their mother or the states chain and then her own. Daddy is supposed to teach them their place is to be pleasant, supportive, and comfortable taking directions rather than scrambling them and following whatever trend is supposed to be approved instead. You can blame doms all you want, but we don't have time for a knockdowndragout with each and every one of you retards. So either get in line or settle for the filth that you are manufacturing.

>>81518466
That has nothing to do with dynamics. Men just don't need the stars to align for them to cum.

>>81517604
>>81517665
YOU'RE BOTH WRONG IT'S TURLES FROM TREE OF MIGHT

FUCKIN CASUALS......

>>81515600
how much of a dom do girls usually like? my last gf liked light choking and hard ass slapping while i called her a slut

>>81515558 (OP)
>are moids just pretending to be doms?
In most cases probably not. Men are more disagreeable on average after all. So while they may not be into being a "dom" in the bdsm sense, they will be into taking the lead. Me personally, I'm so jaded, repressed, anxious, and inexperienced sexually, that I won't know what my dispositions are unless I get used to and comfortable with having sex.

>>81518466
>women only 25%
Skill issue.
Know your body and communicate your needs

>>81518466
my last gf would cum on average 3 times everytime we had sex so my cumming ratio is 1 to 3

>>81519533
I never said I was proud to be a whore, nor that I wanted some puritan lol. I just like being with men that like to please me/women in general that doesn't make them 'pure'. Also he doesn't need my permission to go down on me if it's something he enjoys and the mood between us is right.

You guys make up such weird scenarios in your head of what you think all women are. We are not to be compartmentalized, we're all different, autonomous beings with different thoughts, feelings and inclinations ya silly goobers.

>>81519523
Go get 'er anon :)