Heckin' bored edition

>your type
>do you think soulmates are real?
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not

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Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is an introspective self-report questionnaire indicating differing psychological preferences in how people perceive the world and make decisions.
>Notice me Jung senpai!
>-Alfred Adler

MBTI/Jungian test:
https://sakinorva.net/functions
Watchword test for fun:
https://watchwordtest.com/wtitle2.html

Easy Rundown on C.G. Jung's Depth Psychology
https://pastebin.com/1PYUQTpP

Anons Guide to Jungian Typology:
https://pastebin.com/XJvFYQzT

Explanations of functions:
https://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=Psychological_Types
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_cognitive_functions

Turbie-Wurbie's Cutesy Test Link Compilation! UwU:
https://pastebin.com/6YSzm68D

Exploration into Enneagram:
https://wiki.personality-database.com/books/enneagram
https://ennealib.carrd.co/

Syntax of Love:
https://psychosophy.ru/books/sintaksislubvi/sintaksislubvi1.html

Myers Briggs Files:
https://ufdc.ufl.edu/collections/myersbriggs

>>81519194 (OP)
THOSE WHO KNOW MANGO MANGO

>>81519194 (OP)
>INFJ
>Princess Ghandi
Because they think of themselves as princesses, but also nuke everybody and themselves regularly?

>>81519650
INFJ is the crashout type fr

>>81519965
Also got zero self awareness when they cause themselves to crash out.
It's always somebody else's fault.

what are eye enn tee pee's good at?

>ESFP
>Sanae Kochiya
ESFP is the best type then?

>>81519194 (OP)
>No Clownpiece
Disregarded

which reggies are enlisting voluntarily?
which reggies are draft dodgers?

>>81520199
She's ESTP too

>>81520225
I'm OP and I'm dodging hard no matter what war you throw at me cuz I'd be too lazy

>>81520225
>which reggies are enlisting voluntarily?
The very retarded and incredibly stupid ones.
>which reggies are draft dodgers?
Anybody who is also retarded, but at least not incredibly stupid.

>>81519194 (OP)
>your type
intp
>do you think soulmates are real?
no
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
better actual advice: thinkers
better spoken advice: feelers
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
no

THQSE WHQ GQQN TQ REGVLARS ----->

turbies breast milk

>>81520920
pale flattie milkbuds

TURBIE I WILL FIND YOU

c*Ntaur had tried to e-molest me within the puzzle rooms btw.
Me never speaking up on reg slop had been a part of me observing the accelerated entropic implosion. To speak up in time is to help, and I wouldn't want to pander to my ego by "selflessly" helping what categorically shouldn't be helped for the love of God as it gets in the way of me frantically trying to scratch the scraps out of the transient tenetos to help me cope with what gives me such despair that it could corrode my very capability of sensing despair.
It's what I had gotten for myself that counts.

>>81519194 (OP)
>>your type
INTJ
>>do you think soulmates are real?
Sure. Soulmates won't save anyone.
>>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
Any advice is generally unuseful.
>>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
No.

>>81520462
Lazy, huh? Perfect for recon and organizing efficient logistics within the frontlines.

>>81521467
>Lazy, huh? Perfect for recon and organizing efficient logistics within the frontlines.
I'd definitely love doing that, way better and relaxed plus less chance for me to die. Plus I play strategy games sometimes so I think I'm qualified

>>81521467
I think you're oomf....

are intps lazy fucks?!

>>81519194 (OP)
>your type
INFP
>do you think soulmates are real?
No, and real love only exists in escapism
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
A thinker gives better advice on how to do something, a feeler gives better advice in what you should do and why
So, feelers, because the why is more important than the how
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
INFJs

>Your type
>How much do you hate Israel from 1 to 10?

INFP
11

>>81521467
>c*Ntaur had tried to e-molest me within the puzzle rooms btw.
It is widely known he is a pedophile and wannabe abuser.
A very malicious and evil person, only hindered by his incompetence.

>>81522134
literally every reggie is a pedophile and abuser lol

>>81520225
>which reggies are enlisting voluntarily?
All of them because they're all retarded

>>81519194 (OP)
>your type
Entp
>do you think soulmates are real?
No
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
Thinkers generally but not every problem can be solved with just logic. Feelers can provide a different and valuable perspective in some cases
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
XNTJs but I haven't interacted with one since undergrad and that was five years ago

Sunny is Kris
Mari is ENFJ-senpai
Aubrey is Lilac
Kel is Apollo
Hero is Movie Anon
Basil is Turbie

>>81523199
And (you) are a faggot

>>81523199
what are any of these people up to nowadays?
besides movie anon (whoever that is) and turbie who still posts here.

>>81523272
ENFJ-senpai has an INTJ boyfriend

I'm actually buying into INFJ-A's "suffering makes you stronger" narrative somewhat. He wastes Jungianity on more grandiose narrative navel gazing than it asks for exactly because he didn't suffer enough to feel how little the superficial coping has to do with the necessary coping. Probably one near-cripple/death event too few. Maybe just not enough lingering pain from unnatural interventions, physical brain trauma, and utter horror in the face of pseudogambling against possibly acausally predetermined synchronicitically malicious demise that couldn't care less about how high you are on death acceptance mindsets and whatnot.
Can't blame the pampered, but you may blame the loud.

>>81522033
INTJ
2/10 - incompetent and wasteful of others' resources, but makes chuds seethe.

>>81522170
I did see a fetishistic narrative preference to assume I'm being around almost underage.

>>81521554
I only follow harlot bots that have fishing links in bio...

>>81523883
>I'm actually buying into INFJ-A's "suffering makes you stronger"
It's not my narrative.
It's straight from the mouth of Jung, you know.
I didn't create it, it's not "mine".

There's two possible responses to suffering, you get to pick which one you go with. Either you crumple up and die, or you get stronger.

Good night /MBTI/
Tomorrow i'll have to wagecuck all day so i won't be able to keep the thread bumped, please don't let it die

>>81523883
>"suffering makes you stronger"
This is pretty reduced thinking, there are plenty of torments that will stunt or even impair your growth. It's better to say that a life without some agitation generally results in stagnation. But I'm also skeptical of how far that extends, given that there are great natural differences in behaviour.

>>81524684
>>"suffering makes you stronger"
There are only two people who says this.
The ones who have never really suffered and the ones who haven't fully worked through their suffering yet. But either way, it's an incredibly arrogant statement by a childlike mind.

The people who are opposed to the idea that suffering makes you stronger are the ones who've likely never suffered. They think the best thing is to be comfortable, to stagnate in life in a pool of your own filth until you eventually wither away into nothingness. Nietzsche's concept of decadence embodied. Or the Jungian idea of disintegration.
A complete loss of connection with the archetype of the self. To be completely consumed by one's own persona that the self cannot persist anymore. The will to create vanishes, and all that remains is the endless, meaningless pain of life which can only be solved by destruction.
Destruction of the self, destruction of the world, destruction of anything.

Just fucking read Jung or Nietzsche, they both outline these concepts quite clearly. You can't grow if you don't suffer. There is no growth without pain. And to avoid growth is to become of the Last men.
Read Alchemical Studies, or Psychology and Religion by Jung. Or literally anything of Nietzsche's, he goes on and on about this. Nihilism is NOT a good thing from Nietzsche's perspective.
Nihilism is what the Last Men are categorized as being consumed by, and why Nietzsche finds this abhorrently disgusting.

I have somehow came around to myer's briggs being correct that Ti-Fi doms have more of a chaotic approach towards life, while Ni-Si doms are a bit more reserved. However it's not due to "Le extroverted Aux is what ou see" but rather the contrarian nature of introverted judgement functions making them a bit helter skelter, while Introverted Perception types I can't imagine like surprises that much. I would still call them more akin to socionics though.
Jung's comments about Introverted Thinking types treating their ideas like darwnistic selection where they just kind of shit them out into the open world, and see if they live or die, kind of contrasts with the Te dom's more careful approach doesn't it? Brigg's own perception of herself as being chaotic also fits into that doesn't it?

>>81524882
Who the fuck writes drivel like this? lmao

>>81524966
I do, obviously. Duh.

>>81524970
I appreciate laugh, drivel writer anon

landing back to back duberinos in the m. bit threadavarine

>>81524977
What a telling story you've told, anon. Like a child nervously laughing as the axe murderer rips the skin of their parents faces in front of them. Because it's easier to laugh than to recognize that the blood is real. You chuckle at what you deem to be "drivel", not because it's nonsense, but because some small, shivering part of you knows it isn't.
It sees you. It names the thing you buried and vehemently refuse to acknowledge.

And so you laugh, dismissively. But, not of me, or even of what I said. Rather, of yourself and the things you won't look at as real.

>>81525052
>And so you laugh, dismissively. But, not of me, or even of what I said. Rather, of yourself and the things you won't look at as real.
good stuff

>>81524966
why didn't you insult me >>81524893 you fucking BITCH anime poster

>>81523272
Why don't you care about Movie Anon?

because kris only bullies peepees he wants to touch and your post's tone is both peepeehaver ambiguous and not exceptionally cute and worth of peepertouching even if peep is had

>>81525131
I had had a concise, explanatory write-up half written -- but this Anon heard my words before they were even spoken. It's almost like they are in my head. I hope while they're in there they can help locate the repressed memory of where I lost my bike lock keys as a child which led to a savage belt beating by dad which caused me great suffering which thankfully in turn ended up being causally linked to my becoming stronger for it

>>81525131
I am a guy :| silly billies

>>81525209
>I am a guy :| silly billies
confirmed not worth reading, much less bully ..

>>81525197
in the great 4d chain of caterpillar where our timebodies are perceieved as light string soultrains the credit goes not to your father nor the beltmaker nor his father but fatherless father, the progenitor of all

there is no strength one can gain, only a ripple surging forward and down through the biological succession which always was of and belonging to you, the first you which bore all yous forth

>>81525225
well ain't that some shitte

>>81525262
this was the exact cope I was searching for to help me through the trauma, explain why I had to suffer undeservedly, and to feel at peace with it. thanks, anony

>>81525274
I mean, I'm sorry, my guy. I just prefer girl penis. Guy penis is gay

>>81525300
that's what makes it good though the gayness of it all

>>81525130
no fucking clue what that is

>>81525287
vending machine restock stonks except i load the concepts into your head then come collect the pocket bennies people pay you to dispense them it's not honest but it's much work ''' mars bars ''' are a bige seller this month it seems we'll order double next shipment

>>81525333
your trips are almost convincing me ..

>>81525368
Damn. I should've had some quads.

>>81525394
yeah i'd be getting topped and converted tonight for sure. Shame, Anon. Shame

>>81525079
Is your dominant Se satiated, dear ESFP? Has the inferior shadow Ni been batted away and hidden beneath the dismissive nervous laughter of your ego; safely swept away under the rug only to twitch in the night like a monster hiding under the bed anxiously clawing the corners while awaiting its prey to open its eyes and leave the comfort of the weighted blanket it hides its pretty little eyes beneath?

>>81525131
>because kris only bullies peepees he wants to touch
Not true

>>81525513
state your rebuttal then

>>81519194 (OP)
Ive done these stupid mbti tests over the years and its gone from INTJ to ESTJ to ENTJ if I remember correctly.
What does that say about me.

>>81525530
lol the burden of proof is yours since you made the claim

>>81525551
you're a thinking type

kris is turbie

>>81525644
Hmm you might be right. You must be the smart perceptive type

>>81525563
how can you be so fun averse that you'd challenge a shitpost in presumably moderate sincerity but at the same time be so incapable of committing to the bit that you won't even put up a facetious fight for riffing's sake after your objection is entertained? pick an struggle nigger

>>81525670
Yep, an extroverted or introverted thinking type. Google one of those and see if any of that says "That's literally me" and you're golden.
You don't need to worry about much because outside of psychological types, this whole mbti/personality test shebang is fake and gay.

my almonds are alight trying to ascertain what stakes you have in this

are you someone who has never been bullied by kris who needs to believe he still wants to touch your peepee despite? are you the friend of someone bullied by kris thinking it's letting him off the hook too easy to imply all his instances of bullying are only ever prompted by peepeelust? what bearing has this meme on your personal circumstance

...?

>>81525679
nta
What you posted was just not entertaining or funny at all.

>>81525679
ahahaha they're mad they were asked to support their claim and they can't

>>81525727
then why not say not funny? not true means it's incongruent with the true and to reference truth implies you believe yourself in possession of better comprehension of truth.

your entertainment is not factored in the means by which i ascend toward end. but i will factor that you think so or feel entitled that it should be into other opportunities for other deployment of means

lmao lilac about to crash out

>>81525777
no free lorecrafting when you plead for it disingenuously krispeepee kreem filled donut toucher

say "write more post about me say more word which include word about me and say name of me"
WITH ZEAL
or deal? non

>>81525802
https://youtu.be/gkj8HontV9s
It WILL happen. She WILL come back. My plan is working. She doesn't like it when people think people who aren't her are her.

I know more about the regulars than anyone else. Ask me any question you have about them and I shall answer.

>>81525824
cool story but i've got tf2 to play while Tehran gets stone aged in the background. by all means, please talk about something else

>>81519194 (OP)
He soulmate is a esoteric/cosmic/religious thing. MBTI is actually based on brain functions which is more science.

Did you make the statistic thread? I think you should look into what a soulmate actually is. Science and a soulmate has nothing to do with each other (unless you're looking at a cosmic sense, and still with that it is a guaranteed thing)

>>81525900
your mom cupped my claim while she supported my shaft with her soft palate

What is an uncreative INFJ to do in his life, I do not like interacting with people in real life, and I like the idea of drawing, sure.... but hm...

taking the funposting the precise wrong concentrations of seriously and unseriously and is a prosecutable microaggression against my autism and family of wive thus sayeth ereg voytek bartolli i am patenting various satellite omnipositioned lasers to aim at your house and remove only the moles on your body that are charming and complimentary leaving only the most deformed and ill placed as punishment retribution for the defrauding of my holy bloodline by fbi cia gangstalker cells in my kingdom

>>81519194 (OP)
>your type
INTP
>do you think soulmates are real?
i dont
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
i barely ever think of people in terms of their MBTI types (the 5 factor OCEAN model is better) but in theory i think it would probably be thinkers because of their emphasis on rationality and concrete truths rather than emotions
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
i prefer introverted people (very broad, i know) because theyre usually more outwardly emotionally stable, less sporadic and more agreeable

also its sort of funny seeing patchouli listed as INTP seeing as shes my favourite touhou character. maybe it was for a reason

I consume all the reggyslop while pretending to be ashamed of it and only liking ontopic posts

We (yes, WE) are friends with all regs

>>81526045
>>81526045
>taking the funposting the precise wrong concentrations of seriously and unseriously and is a prosecutable microaggression against my autism and family of wive thus sayeth ereg voytek bartolli i am patenting various satellite omnipositioned lasers to aim at your house and remove only the moles on your body that are charming and complimentary leaving only the most deformed and ill placed as punishment retribution for the defrauding of my holy bloodline by fbi cia gangstalker cells in my kingdom
epic lore shitpost recall skills. Rohan should have his title removed, stat

>>81520589
EVERYONE DOES THIS BTW

>>81526206
Crush on regulars? no, anon, I don't believe they do

>>81526023
>Uncreative
>Intuitive
What a contradiction

>>81526220
They better not. My crawlspace is getting about full of "competition".

Keep those dokidokis to yourselves. Sluts.

sex with sophie and centaur

sex with sophie and centaur while lilac punishes you with the whip

she got that whip game
if you know you know

>>81526414
Have you looked at what the sensation-intuition question in most quizes are? They are mostly about if you like theories or not. Not a whole lot of questions about art. Even Big five has art as like one of the pillars of the curiousness scale.

brutal wet towel snap lockerroom TRAVMA

>>81526719
Yes, I'm painfully aware of how online tests categorize the functions. Intuition is not about liking theories or anything remotely close to that.

>>81526757
Explain what intuition is and how it works. Step by step.

tfw no sex with sophie and centaur except it's just to gateway yourself into sex with lilac who will put you in a tight-as-fuck brazilian jiu jitsu leg lock in missionary right as you nut and then you asphyxiate and die literally in fucking Heaven

in an alternate timeverse I experienced that bliss

Lilac is a beautiful girl with a gentle heart

>>81526768
She's too busy sea-scissoring with ESFP-chan to suicide you by scissorhold, Anon. Those gams got a waitlist.

>>81526767
By the very unconscious nature of intuition, it cannot be explained in a step-by-step way.
Intuition is a means of perception through the unconscious which does not directly rely on the sense perception of the body. It's a sort of indirect perception. Where sensation perceives things exactly how they are, intuition perceives beyond how they are.

Liking theories or abstract ideas, is more of the realm of abstract thinking. Which is a subset of the thinking function.

isn't it kind of weird that for some of us we can only imagine the reggy sexo but for some it is a recollection? some caricature influenced by their avatarfagging, writing style, and their anecdotes forms when you imagine the sexo reggies. but for others the very face of the real life reggy comes to mind as they transpose your memes on to the living breathing posters behind the posts they once shared a hug or even a fug with

is it better to know? or to dream?

>>81526757
I mean yeah, I agree but anyone who calls themselves an INFJ isn't going to be woke on that issue.

>>81526852
>By the very unconscious nature of intuition, it cannot be explained in a step-by-step way
It can be if you understood how it works.

>>81526857
we've all had sex with lilac

ESFP-Chan + LiLucky trauma pajama sleepover party and sexual healing squealing would go so fucking hard bros we need to manifest it into existence if it's not already happening. send your energy and make sure it's by priority 1st express mail

it can still happen

>>81526857
>is it better to know? or to dream?
To know. No question

>>81526857
The only ones who really stand to gain or lose are the ones being fantasized about.

If they fall short of the fantasies, the reputation preceding them which is in part influenced by fact, in part fortified by favorable rumour, only serves disservice.
If they measure up, or if even lore and legend can't do justice to all that they are, then to be dreamt of as opposed to known is likely the better alternative. For them.
When a good secret gets out, the good can spread itself too thin.

>>81526921
>If they fall short of the fantasies
ie every single reg because this is 4chan and everyone here is almost certainly a fat ugly neckbeard

>>81526921
a very prince-esque take

>>81526942
But the condition is only that the person who comes to know them is of the belief that they meet or exceed their reputation or that individual's personal fantasies. Not whether you, Anon, or Anon number two thinks it deluded or in bad taste for the one worthy of consummation, graduation from dreaming to knowing, to rule that knowing is superior; in the sense that to become intimate with the object of their adoration makes distinction between idealization and unconditional love superfluous.

To dream oneself close enough the chance to know, reveals the dream was an intangential knowing all the long.

radiating . . .

Our reality is myth, as all who inhabit. Do not take this to mean our world is of no substance, our selves of no import.

This only means one should be very mindful what they weave, and for whom.

hey guys don't mind me just posting anime pics in mbti

and then go a step further and stop caring about any of that

>>81527087
>hey guys don't mind me just posting anime pics in mbti
based pilled

>>81526942
I'm not fat or ugly I'm just a skinny weeb

>>81527158
are you girl?

what mbti is the stacy type

>>81526871
If you can explain it in a step-by-step process, you are not explaining intuition. What you're most likely explaining is thinking.
Claiming that you can explain intuition in that way is equal to saying that you can explain how your eyes transmit information to your brain, and how your brain translates that into pictures, and how you create those pictures in your psyche.

You just simply do not know how those processes function on that level because they are unconscious.

>>81527201
>are you girl?
No am not girl

>>81527234
>No am not girl
Have I your consent to dream you are anyway, Anon? My dream bone might struggle due to a weighing, guilty conscience otherwise . . .

if it helps, you can pretend you're giving consend to a girl instead of a fat ugly neckbald

>>81527265
Yes go ahaed anon, what you dream of is always up to u

Ugh get this faggotry out of here

kris x touhou infj mistyper was not on my shipping bingo card for 2025

UGH fine whatever I guess I'll post jungiankino then, I don't care anyway

>>81527342
It's not a mistype I'm INFJ asf

She is asf indeed. I can confirm by the aura

>>81526975
Prince a diddy ah gooner bro don't talk about no diddy ahh bluds if u want 2 be tuff

>>81527412
P. daddy poems

tfw you'll never repair your broken friendship with prince diddy and tag-team a hate fuck train on liyak while cent watches from the corner chair

Which reggies are the biggest sluts for biwisi

Faggotry faggotry go away
Come again not another day
Stay away
Stay away
Forever
Fuck off faggots.

>>81527502
wow thats such a beautiful poem where did you learn to do that

>>81527091
Fascinating. Do you mean to say you're speaking only from your exact current developmental moment? No echoes of where you've been, no projections of where you're going--just a pure, present-tense distillation of your now-self?
How humbled are we that a being who is so presently anchored could look upon us and assume that which we speak must reference our present experience, as such a way of now-ness is all you know, now that you've taken the final step comprised of ten million which brings you to the place where to speak of the past would banish you back to it.

It must be so freeing, never being haunted by context, pattern, or continuity. Just a floating moment, detached from all narrative. And yet daunting, the precipice of the responsibility over your own point on the line the constant reminder which suspends you above it like a tightrope walker who transcended mere balance for outright levitation...

>>81521467
tfw i was too boring for centaur to molest

>>81527204
>You just simply do not know how those processes function on that level because they are unconscious.
You do not understand it because you're not intuitive.

>equal to saying that you can explain how your eyes transmit information to your brain, and how your brain translates that into pictures,
Very possible to do.

>>81527620
Delicious seethe

tfw too strong to be centaur molested
I wish I was born weaker, more sub and vuln

subby vulnerables get to have all the fun of surrender

>>81527466
slutphie is the biggest slut in general

>>81527833
If you're going to troll you could at least put in some effort.

Intuition is defined by both Jung and the MBTI manual as an unconscious perception of underlying patterns, possibilities and relationships.
If you think it's possible to outline a step by step process of intuition or sensation, you clearly don't know what either of them are.

lilac is junko enoshima

>>81527854
It really strikes a pain in my heart when you mistake my attempts to poke fun with, not at you, as frustration or retaliation. There must be some middle ground we can find where bond-building humor can penetrate your autism and trust issues without the need to speak in completely monotonous transmission of un-misinterpretable fact stripped of all playfulness or subtle invitation to contextually excavate.

Such a shame.

>>81528069
Lmao he's still going

you need to get sexed up (especially if you are intp or infp)

>>81528069
meant for this poster >w<

the types that really need to get sexed up are intj infj intp infp entp entj enfj enfp esfp estp istp isfp isfj esfj estj istj and istj again

i fucking want so bad to get sexed up by a thinker chad woman i'll even take a sensoid if she can figure out how to break me and control me. i want to be manipulated and psychologically dominated and intellectually dommed too and maybe even EQ dommed

total and complete domination death

>>81519194 (OP)
infj should be parsneed not kasen, idrc about your general though bye

it is impossible to be dommed by a feeler woman
prove me wrong you can't

How about if we take the faggotry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyn-0af_hlI

The fruits taste best at season end
Shhhhh

mmm reggies in bikinis

With enough foresight, one can plausibly take control of an (over) sensitive's interpersonal nerve endings and either numb or acclimate them to the acting stimuli. But it robs the uncommonly bestowed of dignity of self-directed calibration, and should be postponed until the unavoidable terminus of relations.

>>81528093
Still going? Yes. I willn't disappear without warning. As much as you push, as many times as you jolt toward the gun, you won't spook me off, Anonymous. When you turn, and I'm nowhere to be found, it's not that you've been left to your own. Simply a reminder that leaving is in my power: and still I choose to stay, even if perched or primed sometimes where I can see, but you cannot. And when I excuse myself, irrelated to your self-fulfilling quest to alienate, return I always have. Promise that is the way it will remain, I cannot. But until the work the is done... The going "is", good or not. And it goes, and goes, and goes.

tfw you'll never get to see lirack's bikini'd breasties and you'll never have her steal all the other reggies bikinis from them and crochets them into bikini ropes she then ties you down with as punishment i mean why even live life

>>81528342
shut up already you faggot do you know how painful it must be for homuchan for you to ignore him just to keep spamming about the person who stole his bf

>>81524456
>It's straight from the mouth of Jung
It's your consciously stated pseudo-Nietzsche-Jungian reductionist model I'm referencing.
Unconsciously, you know and operate by actual Jung's pampered "suffering makes you stronger only if you subscribe to my model on how to obsessively force meaningfulness onto everything."
What is it, you need more suffering to freely allow yourself to be right?

>>81524684
>This is pretty reduced thinking, there are plenty of torments that will stunt or even impair your growth
Skill issue. If you have to forget that most of your corporeality is a chaotic soup of neurons trying to constantly readjust itself for interfacing with what empiricism and science can only ever see traces of - that's pure skill issue, volition issue, commitment issue.

>>81524727
>The ones who have never really suffered and the ones who haven't fully worked through their suffering yet.
Not insightful or constructive rebuttal, because that's practically anyone at all, and this only strengthens the initial point.

>>81524882
>The people who are opposed to the idea that suffering makes you stronger are the ones who've likely never suffered
I can just feel that you've never suffered, either. Do you think just cerebrally supporting a notion is ever enough?
>Just fucking read Jung or Nietzsche
You didn't read them enough if you recommend them with zeal. They're a Maya's red herring read. They're the factory dust tea bag manual in a world where you can drink tea steeped directly from leaves.

>>81523883
no, intjfemboi. you're not getting stronger by suffering just because your bi bf spanks your sissy butt with the belt

>>81528387
>homuchan for you to ignore him
Wait, what? Is he even in here?

>>81528416
You just know that even the kilograms of parasitic worms within you cringe from your expressions of your existence.

>>81528433
yes the pretty pink intj known for flirting with men in puzzle rooms would contain no parasitic content whatsoever

>>81528126
Sex me up with an enfp girl and you got yourself a very happy worker drone

>>81528483
oh yeah im istp btw

tfw you'll never get to reconnect with liquack after she finishes psycholgy school and get to have a lie down on her chaise longue in her dr office and have her have you take her through your traumas in intimate detail as she sits over you analysing you with a judging and critical look on her beautiful face

>>81528491
You wish. Infjs make for the biggest enfp fans there are, it's not enough that we already gotta fight abusive intjs for their love

why is intjfemboi suddenly an edgy asshole

intjfembitch needs a good fuck he's way too stressed right now it's not good for his health growing angrier and angrier like this someone needs to sex him immediately so he knows calm again

>>81528561
intjfemboi was what that prison gay who wants to force fem all the male reggies entj called megumin sometimes not patchouli

every boy in the thread is a femboy in his eyes because he is a toxoplasmotic sodomite >_<

but i don't know i get a little scared sometimes when i remember that one end of thread post that said all the real regs are dead and not to trust what comes back wearing their skin :((( it seemed like a joke but sometimes i don't feel so good

Am I supposed to pretend the guts here didn't feel being called out?

weed gummies and cheese and crackers washed down with the ensure shake meant to replace your late-night snaking is such a caloric backwardation move

lisnack

>>81528514
liyap is probably 2 cool for talk therapy since all the rapists of mind say it's not good for overthinkers. It helps people who don't think or think about thinking but it makes the thinkers who think about thinking about thinking turn into a bunch of infinite little windows like when you view your own screen while streaming your own screen !!!
Probably she would set you up with the emdr machine but also put some electrodes on your taint and nipples and then do evil mushroom magic and milk your cock while filling you with demons while calling it a somatic guided meditative healing or something witchy like that :0
I rebuke it!

>>81528603
this can only be one of 2 people

>>81528661
>I rebuke it!
I don't! I want it!
I want to book a future sesh now

3
2
1
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1k95jnW

>>81528663
Turbie Enjoyer or Breeder, yeah (Turbie Enjoyer is Breeder's alt)

>>81528663
There are way more possibilities than that in this crazy messed up world of today anooticer! Because maybe even if it could be two people it could be two of two people because they could be docking their peniles inside each other while one types the post and the other clicks the post button and they giggle about outsmarting you and making you wrong even though it seems like the choices are that narrow! That could also be something that could happen. But things that could happen are not always things that do but its good to consider them anyways just so you don't look fooly and sillish ^_^

petition to change "who is the cutest reggie?" into "who are the cutest reggies" since you're forced to choose two and only choosing one isn't a valid response I mean it's more flawed than 16p

Patchouli is MY FVARKIN HERO!!

>>81528704
could it be this person bychance?

>your type
>your favourite base flavor (bitter, salty, sour, sweet, umami)

I really didn't want to choose liclack but the number of reasonable choices was fucking scarce. intjfemboi was the clearest winner but dude cmon where was rxy where was sophie where was chuck where was literally all the rest of the cute allstars?

>>81528738
bitter INFJ

Chuck has a bibisi doe

>>81528724
SLOGGY HOW DID YOU GET THAT IMAGE SIR MR. 47 SIR WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO DROP THIS DOXXNVKE NOW OF ALL NIGHTS

Turbie Enjoyer is hot and it's nice that Turbie can finally see her husband.

turbie enjoyer has Chad aura ngl

sometimes people should mind their own business dont you agree

>>81528724
LOLLL WTF
A DOXX?? IN MY THREAD????

>>81528724
he looks like if a gnome took a potion to become human to take an andrew tate zoom intensive masterclass weekend but he didn't return to his toadstool by sunset and he got stuck half gnome half human full nu-PUA

absolutely mirthful mischief eye twinkle it looks like his resting expression is the dreamworks ;:^) eyebrow

>>81528411
It's only reductionist in the sense that I'm talking about one point. What's really reductionist is your perspective on what I'm saying, as if I'm saying the only way to grow is martyr yourself, or that the only way to grow is to chop all your arms and legs off and throw yourself into a pit of lava; then, and only THEN can you really even attempt to grow!
I'm not even advocating for suffering for the sake of suffering, it's merely that you cannot transcend what you refuse to acknowledge.

The only time suffering doesn't make you stronger is when you refuse to confront it. If you choose to cower in the corner, shrivel up into a little ball of terror and hide away. It festers, multiplies, drags you down into the depths of hell and consumes you whole. Complete and utter archetypical ego consumption by the shadow.
From which the only possible light of redemption is given by the soul, the animus/anima, the last harbinger of a chance to grow.

It feels like you're projecting your own experience of the lack of suffering.

>>81528663
You may not have a type. But sometimes a type has you.

>istp
>autism
>faggot
how rare is this combo

>>81528921
Not too rare for an istp I'm afraid

>>81528863
>What's really reductionist is your perspective on what I'm saying
Yes, as a steelman improvement.
>I'm not even advocating for suffering for the sake of suffering, it's merely that you cannot transcend what you refuse to acknowledge.
>The only time suffering doesn't make you stronger is when you refuse to confront it.
That's the thing. You're pampered if you have enough mental room to try processing the meta of having a decision. The Jungian and Nietzschean way are to waste the privilege of such space by building narrative barricades that fundamentally would never hold water under any real trial that couldn't care less about the opioid cope, and the next step of the approaches are to obsessively avoid ever truly testing the constructs the self-agency is delegated to. Grandiosity is a significant mechanism here.
>It feels like you're projecting your own experience of the lack of suffering.
The lack is in anyone per the necessarily inherent No True Scotsman approach involved, and the inevitable projection nature of any expression whatsoever doesn't mean an expression is wrong.

tfw no time machine

That one wasn't a doxx, my fine custodial fren. Therebyinwhich I am entitle to twimst myself around the slow motion bullets, collect them all as they are suspended, put them in a lovely heart shaped box and deliver it to your door all before the Fates resume their SpinCycle classes. Yes, yes, in between the time it takes for sweat to bead and neon Nike sweatband to upsorp.

>>81527931
>If you think it's possible to outline a step by step process of intuition or sensation, you clearly don't know what either of them are.
If you can't do it then it's clear that you don't have enough intuition to understand how it works.

>>81528724
I would beat this guy up so easy. Funny how all the people I can beat up act tough online.

>>81529008
I would hardly call that a steelman, in fact, it's quite the contrary.
>You're pampered if you have enough mental room to try processing the meta of having a decision.
I'm pampered because I can practice rear facing perceptions? If I can make a choice today, then tomorrow look back on the choice and make all sorts of meta observations about the nature of choices and the consequences thereof, I'm somehow pampered? The mere fact that I have reflected on my choices that disqualifies me from speaking about suffering? That's very bizarre.
Just because my life isn't full to the brim with nonstop entropic chaos that I have the time to analyze my choices, I'm pampered? This makes no sense. Even someone who is submerged to their nose in chaos and suffering has downtime.

If anything, the refusal to examine suffering is what makes you soft. To endure suffering without reflection is to be at the mercy of it. To reflect is to reclaim agency over it.
>The lack is in anyone per the necessarily inherent No True Scotsman approach involved
See, but the thing is, I've not claimed that other people haven't suffered enough. That's what you're doing. I've never said that about anyone, other than you, with my projection comment.

I also find it to be..... disgusting, to put it bluntly, that you would imply that I'm dismissing other people's suffering simply because they are not acting within Jung's framework, and that I'm somehow gatekeeping "true suffering". If anything, their suffering is MORE suffering, because it's completely meaningless suffering that just compounds until they fucking die of misery.
I cannot think of anything more suffering than that. Completely and utterly hopeless, meaningless nihilistic suffering.
>inevitable projection
Hah.
So you're admitting I was right?
Probably unconsciously so.

>>81529184
What is bro yapping about?? Yapaholic head aahh

>>81529049
Good thing you don't have access to a technology much more multifaceted and far less lousy with paradoxes, caged only by the horror that the love that awaits on the other side could dwarf the fear the bars were alloyed with, neglecting to reach and see if they might melt at precisely elevated heartbeat taking a chance not because it isn't crazy but because crazy is a catalyst body temperature degrees.

>>81529211
tfw no scooter gang gf to enjoy a West Coast sunset with
:(

>>81529198
C'mon zoomie, I know you can muster the strength to read something that doesn't have 5 tiktok videos and 7 songs playing at the same time with 72 different colored flashing lights.
You got this.

i think turbie would think turbie enjoyer is cute >o<

>>81529184
>I'm pampered because I can practice rear facing perceptions?
Yes.
>If I can make a choice today, then tomorrow look back on the choice and make all sorts of meta observations about the nature of choices and the consequences thereof, I'm somehow pampered?
Yes. That's not having the rug of causality pulled out under you. Even Jung raved on about this during talks on synchronicities, despite not consolidating the implications it had.

>Just because my life isn't full to the brim with nonstop entropic chaos that I have the time to analyze my choices, I'm pampered?
Honestly, yes. It could get even worse with at least the social interactions, social status, social security, relationships, social mobility eroding because of the cognitive dissonance of people around you that have to choose whether they have to explain their observations with your orchestrations of ill intent, witchcraft, or whatever it is that still doesn't resolve the sensibly uncanny disturbance in their guts triggering insensible projections and whatnot.

>If anything, the refusal to examine suffering is what makes you soft. l
One can write stale and dusty retrospective fanfictions and extrapolations of cherry-picked fragments of recalled frames of perceptions all they want, but that's not examination.
>To endure suffering without reflection is to be at the mercy of it. To reflect is to reclaim agency over it.
OCD rat race power games.

>That's what you're doing.
Yes.

>>81529184
>you would imply that I'm dismissing other people's suffering simply because they are not acting within Jung's framework
It's the Jungian way of dismissal. It's seen in its most clear form in Addiction to Perfection, where Woodman is yapping about a case how it's the fault of the woman who nearly got raped and killed, because the woman should had been magically achieved such specialized individuation that the unconscious of the assaulter wouldn't have picked on the absent-minded womanchild energies during her minding her business. Very "I wanted it thus!" also. Warpedly, it's right, in a sense. How dare you betray the projections of the delusional and not gain such omnipotence to give everyone infantilising utopia to googoo gaagaa under?

>I cannot think of anything more suffering than that. Completely and utterly hopeless, meaningless nihilistic suffering.
To be able to contain or form anything nihilistic is utterly pampered, too.

>>inevitable projection
>Hah.
>So you're admitting I was right?
I've been pointing out what a projection is and isn't for a few years now. Can't blame you if you had never seen this, especially since the place's unpleasant to focus in.

>>81519194 (OP)
What's with /mbti/ group thinking that any and all types can be the same? That extroverted types can be just as shy and introverted types? No other group with a focus on mbti would say such a thing. This is the only place that would claim that an introverted type could be just as social and friendly as an extroverted type.

Not every type can be artistic and creative.

Good morning, i fucking hate israel

>>81529448
"/we/" just read Jung here, and discuss it once in a Blue Moon when the worm-infested accidentally eat one candy less than usual.

>>81529419
>How dare you betray the projections of the delusional and not gain such omnipotence to give everyone infantilising utopia to googoo gaagaa under?
By the way, this extends to this:
>>81529184
>To reflect is to reclaim agency over it.

Vertical progress platitude philosophies fundamentally can't ever cope with the nature of the living.

>>81528411
>Not insightful or constructive rebuttal
It wasn't a rebuttal, but a factual statement.
Once you have actually suffered, and worked through it, you'll know you would have preferred to not have suffered.
You simply lack the experience to have any meaningful opinion on this topic.

>>81530106
>Once you have actually suffered
Actually, you say? No such thing. Read Plato or Heraclitus maybe.

>pain isn't real pain if you have any pain tolerance
Do you ever take a second to look and ponder about what you're saying?

>oh excuse me, we're being negative reinforcement Pavloviancore here. You're basically dead if you're not trying to be a machine like we do

>my field of experiencing has more content from triggered metabolic processes and neuron signals of specific categories of intensity that's more condensed than usual. Oh, what anguish it is, to be reminded of mortal constraints which I normally couldn't care less about while the situation will still be allowing me the opportunity to pseudoframe the pseudomoments for future argumentative fuel! People who don't agree with my choices are simply of inferior breed of phenomenological being, never coming close until they validate my decisions the way I like
>>81530106
Did it feel good? The pretty bandaid, that is.

>>81525874
Is Turbie a boy or girl?

>>81530243
>>81530164
>>81530153
you're a girl to me baby

>>81529448
Because how most people interpret it doesn't make any sense in reality.
Somebody who is mainly concerned and invested with external matters while hardly paying attention to anything internal is extraverting even if they aren't particularly social or suffer from crippling anxiety. Hell it can even be much more abstract than that: somebody who trusts external standards over more personal criteria is also extraverting regardless of which acitvities he's involved in.
Although whether this behavior is typical or purely situational makes the difference in determining the actual type. And a lot more stuff that I'm not going to include here for the sake of brevity.

Art and creativity have little to do with types,

sad i see this gay general alive niggers and trannies hell i'm not scheme encrypting my name is eric

tfw we never got our crashout from lilackluster

I wonder if this is either a sign of Extroverted Thinking or a lower form of thinking but a lot of people just seem like they are too afraid of saying "Yeah this shit is kind of stupid, gonna throw it out".

>>81531544
Probably not anything type-related, but without any additional context it sounds closer to inferior thinking, as the ideas produced by these people can end up "possessing" them even if they appear to be irrational to anyone else.

a lot of people just seem like they are too afraid of saying "Yeah this shit is kind of stupid, gonna throw it out there anyway and see what happens."

Now that sounds like some sort of intuitive thought process
>I can't explain why but I feel like this idea holds some potential either way
kind of thing.

>>81531565
I was reading https://akhromant.tumblr.com/ and got that impression of it. Like they seem to have ideas from socionics, kersey and a lot of other guys kludged into this supposedly "pure" reading of the Jungian types and seems to be very big five pilled for say a Jungian Typologist.

>>81531603
I remember that one. And I don't really agree with these slop piles where people try to reconcile every idea or interpretation under the sun without throwing away things that are obviously contradicting each other.
That said, I'm not sure you can assign this kind of theorizing to a specific type, at best we can say it's not a particularly scrupulous thinking and hints at not giving the function priority over something else.

>>81531275
>Art and creativity have little to do with types,
Wrong

>>81531295
Sad I see no blogposts about how women are horrible

>>81531544
I'm INFJ and I am almost assuredly one of the first ones to do ts btw if that helps

>>81531668
Yeah I guess that is also why inferior intuition types believe in every conspiracy theory out there (Rather than the actual conspiracy theories that actually are right or have a good shot of being correct). I kind of get lost as to how inferior feeling/sensation really works out though?

By that I mean I am quick to discern if something's just not worth the time at all

'chouli I gooned to ts btw she's so sexy

>>81531983
>inferior feeling/sensation really works out though?
tl;dr
inferior feeling can show up as either a very vague/lacking sense of right and wrong(in favor of correct and incorrect), what you find agreeable/disagreeable, or go all the way into the opposite direction by being way too extreme in these kinds of judgements. Or if it's attached to people, it produces intense love/hate reactions, and they can flip very quickly for the same person.
Inferior sensation has to do both with ignoring actual present realities(in favor of what could be) and being overly concerned with bodily sensations to the point of hypochondria, developing various addictions, or attachment to certain items/people for seemingly no particular reason.

The general pattern of inferior functions is that you cannot easily control them, you don't understand much about what goes on behind your back, sometimes you feel they aren't even there, but at the same time they can produce very extreme behaviors to compensate for their repression.
It's also mentioned a few times that people can find their own inferior function to be somewhat fascinating and "magical", because it serves as a gateway to their unconscious and primitive thoughts, feelings, etc.

passionate reggie sex

>>81531965
the glowies must have loved those but they like trannie culture more

>>81533476
Animeposting troon fags OWN /mbti/, just as the umitoddler witches have

Umineko is like Alexander the Great while we're like Julius Caesar o algoever

Hi I'm a classical regular from 2021 and I'm burning in hell because nu-regulars from 2025's content is better

Ayo why Kris lowkey do be one of our most loyal regs doe

>>81533735
The golden age of /MBTI/ was 2019-2020, thoughbeit

>>81528738
I never understood what umami is supposed to be

>>81519194 (OP)
>>your type
ESFP-T
>>do you think soulmates are real?
Deep down, not really; but my relationship with my ESFJ sometimes makes me wonder.
>>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
I think feelers are better if you just need a pick-me-up, but thinkers are probably better to consult for important decisions.
>>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
Not particularly.

>>81526802
>Lilac is a beautiful girl with a gentle heart
And a lovely voice.

>>81526818
>She's too busy sea-scissoring with ESFP-chan to suicide you by scissorhold, Anon.
>>81526906
>ESFP-Chan + LiLucky trauma pajama sleepover party and sexual healing squealing
Gonna have THAT image in my head for awhile (not a complaint).
>>81528738
>>your favourite base flavor (bitter, salty, sour, sweet, umami)
Sweet!!

>>81529414
>Even Jung raved on about this
The thing he raved about is that chaos is chaotic, and that you cannot analyze chaos in chaos because it's chaotic. But there is no such thing is pure unending chaos, especially if you go by Jung. You could live in a state of 99.9999999% chaos and have 0.00000001% downtime where you're in a lull of peace, where you have the ability to reflect, and by your definition, you're pampered now.
Complete nonsense, you know.

But, at the end of the day, nobody can withstand that sort of chaos. Your mind and body will become exhausted and you'll just die of exhaustion. And your entire argument boils down to "if you have time to rest, you're a pampered little spoiled shit." Dum dum, and dum.

Your argument SHOULD be that if you never face chaos, and you live in a state of pure, or near pure, analysis and comfort, then you're pampered.
But, with that argument you can't play the "no true scotsman" game, because it really only applies to you.
Can you see what you're doing? I can.
You're warping the argument to make everyone as equally pampered as you.

Having the luxury of reflection does not make you pampered, but having the luxury of never having to deal with chaos does.
There's a difference.

>with at least the social interactions [...]
I have all of these. Though, not as much as I used to, I'm in the middle of my Zarathustra retreating to the mountain to convene with God, phase. So, admittedly, my relationships have fallen to the wayside.
People in real life do not have the same response to me as people here. They can see it. Just by looking at me, they can tell, there's weight behind my words. They know that what I say does not come from a place of ill intent or malice, or one upmanship. They know I'm talking from a place of experience. Not only that, most people are joyed when I talk about these topics, they find it to be uplifting and real.

>>81529414
>OCD rat race power games.
That's you. You're the one playing the power games. You're the one claiming that people haven't suffered and that they're pampered and trying to play the "no true scotsman" game.
>>81529419
>It's the Jungian way of dismissal.
I don't think Jung ever actually did this. And to be so blatantly cruel as to blame the victim directly flies in the face of what Jung teaches.
Sure, of course, people can bastardize Jung's work and turn it into a cudgel to bludgeon people over the head to paint them as inferior beings who lack the psychological depth to individuate, or some such nonsense.
But that is NOT the essence of Jung's work, and you, as a self identified reader of Jung, should be able to reconcile the difference between someone who is repurposing Jung's work for their self aggrandizing ego inflation masking itself as self righteous enlightenment, and what Jung actually taught.
It's just blatantly obvious that these people are just projecting their own inadequacy for being unable to integrate their own shadow. And instead of burdening the responsibility of integrating their own shadow, they berate those who have suffered real pain.

And those people- those who would use Jung's work as a weapon merely to serve their own ends, deserve nothing less than to be cast into an archetypal pit of hell themselves.
>especially since the place's unpleasant to focus in.
It's really not that unpleasant once you've looked a few times. What's more unpleasant is when people refuse to acknowledge their own projections.

>>81535038
>suffered real pain.
>real
Not patch, but you are quite fond of appeals to purity. He absolutely clocked you in that regard

I got ESTP in the words test and ISTP with second ESTP in sakinorva, I relate to the ESTP cognitive stack but I have autism and I am very bad socially.

What goes? Autistic ESTP is a possibilty? or just a typical ISTP lol

>>81535122
The example he gave was from a book where a woman was raped, I think that constitutes real pain, don't you?
It's not about purity, it's about the fact of the matter.

He didn't clock anything. He, like you, misunderstands the usage of the term "real". It's not a "no true scotsman" argument.

>>81535417
lol so clocked

>>81534800
>The thing he raved about is that chaos is chaotic
Not a rebuttal.
>and by your definition, you're pampered now.
You handle it like an insult, I handle it like a state of being where any agency is had as it can be directed towards outcomes such as skill issues or skill solutions.
>>81535038
>You're the one playing the power games.
I'll do that as hard as needed as long as it expresses what I'd like to convey.
>people haven't suffered
They honestly just never do. By the time they may possibly suffer for real, in such moments, they can neither ever formally confirm the experience nor they can ever hold onto their mental or physical humanity for an observer to say "yes, that is a person in suffering." The assertions that such and such suffering is real only ever come as raw projections of the raw mind. A token of social evolutionary thriving; a pointer isn't its own target; slicing a round balloon up as if it's a pie, et cetera. It's all infinitely more simple than I describe.
>But that is NOT the essence of Jung's work
Yeah, it's not the forest, just the trees.
>self aggrandizing ego inflation masking itself as self righteous enlightenment
Solid 50% of Jung's works.
>>81535417
Experienced phenomenology relies on opposites. You ever get the wholeness of experience (max pain is below <100% and you comprehend it by the rest being non-pain. However, you ever experience the whole, not its parts, no matter how much your ego tries to quantify), or nothing (if 100% pain, then its inexperiencable. Much like you can feel yourself dying, but you can't feel the death). "Consciousness rises from a friction of opposites" is a certified Jung hood classic.

There are just too many explanations of the simple reality here. I'm not sure what's so complicated on eternally occuring transmogrificative adaptations.

dude is getting blown out so hard

>>81535674
Which one? INFJ-A is being the reasonable one here

>>81533765
Kris drew a giant penis on our minecraft server before crashing out having pony e-sex with centaur on the discord server while raging in my DMs that I banned him for griefing

lmao the samefag desperation tactics

Infj is the resident expert on suffering since he's a glutton for getting made someone's bitch when he tries to argue

'chouli RAPES everyone xe argues with, no exceptions

Goodnight /MBTI/, remember to always hate the antichrist and his worshippers

>>81535510
It is a rebuttal in the sense that it states your argument isn't a rebuttal. You're trying to warp Jung's words into something they don't mean in order to try and dismantle my point.
And I'm saying you're misrepresenting Jung's ideas, just like the people you critique, such as the Woodman example.
>You handle it like an insult
I don't find it to be insulting at all. I do however, find your use of the word to be insulting. Because it reduces it to complete meaninglessness. If everyone is pampered, then nobody is pampered and then the word has no meaning.
I find that notion to be offensive.
Because, again, everyone, at some point in their life, will have a point of clarity where the immediate chaos will be batted away such that the ego has the space to rationalize and analyze.
Flattening the word and removing all nuance from it is extremely offensive to me. It removes all utility and effectively turns into a [guttural grunt of disagreement].
>I'll do that as hard as needed
Do you not see the problem with that? You're asserting that it is somehow what I'm doing, and that it is somehow bad that I'm doing that, but you're completely willing to do it to your own ends?
What kind of weird projection is this? It reeks of the Marxist notion that "everything is just a power struggle."
>They honestly just never do.
This is what I find offensive. The very idea that you would assert this as true is offensive. It's the most blatant projection ever.
>By the time they [...]
You're conflating language with the experience here. Obviously experience transcends language, and language can only ever point to an experience, it cannot be the experience in and of itself. This does not negate the reality of suffering though. It just highlights a valid, fatal flaw in the limited power of language.
Or, to put it into a metaphor, you're confusing the finger for the moon it points to. Which alludes to a certain lack of psychological differentiation.

>>81535510
>it's not the forest, just the trees.
It's either the forest, nor the trees. It's the projected meaning from your own psyche onto the Rorschach blot that you've decided is a painting of a forest titled "Jung's work."
>Solid 50% of Jung's works.
That's you, and the people who misappropriate his work for their own selfish ends. Those who, for some reason, cannot individuate and are stuck in a perpetual cycle of integrating the problem, rather than the solution to perpetuate the cycle of abuse. Could probably call it participation mystique with an education.
Placing the devil at the top of your hierarchy doesn't mean you transcend good, it means you've morally regressed, crowned your shadow and called it God. You've merely fallen off the ladder, found yourself lost in the basement and painted the walls with archetypes to convince yourself you've found the holy temple. You've been consumed by the drive for power, and you think that this is all there is to the world, everything is just a means to power. Absolute peak post-modern Marxist ideology. Which excuses your excessive use of power to your own ends.
It's peak archetypal possession.
>Experienced phenomenology relies on opposites.
That doesn't really refute what I'm saying. Yes, if you only ever taste shit, you aren't really tasting shit. And if you're only ever experiencing pain, what you're experiencing isn't pain. It's just normal everyday life.
This is exactly, and precisely why, your definition of "real suffering not existing" or "everyone is pampered" loses all meaning. There's no contrast and without contrast, everything just turns into an undifferentiated nihilistic blob of nothingness.

You guys think he's ever touched grass before? Think he ever gets tired of being intellectually mogged and owned by someone hardly even invested in the "argument"?

>>81536501
>You're trying to warp Jung's words into something they don't mean
Jung talked about synchronicities, of psychoid, slapping the rationalists' lives as how _there's a lot to life outside of the consensus sensibilities._
>And I'm saying you're misrepresenting Jung's ideas
The words you're looking for is "disagreeing with their lazy-spirited micro and macro presentations."
>If everyone is pampered
A premise that's against the points I've expressed.

>>I'll do that as hard as needed
>Do you not see the problem with that?
I'm conscious of the limited employment I give to it.
>It reeks of the Marxist notion that "everything is just a power struggle."
That's also the stench of: _subscription to suffering-centered thought;_ of rational pragmatism in suffering-pleasure dichotomy; of hedonism, et cetera.

>You're conflating language with the experience here.
I'm pointing at the missing link of _"interpretation"._
>reality of suffering
I could agree on reality of pain, for they're signals that can be confirmed empirically. But the inherently abstract suffering? The devil's word to claim experience of pain despite its absence? Twilight of the Idols, anyone?

>>81536666
>It's the projected meaning from your own psyche onto the Rorschach blot that you've decided is a painting of a [Hellscape] titled [Suffering]
Hmm.

>Absolute peak post-modern Marxist ideology.
Marx's issues are inheritance of Hegel's belief that any word represents real epistemological ties to the meaning's target that definitely should always exist. Such as "suffering."
>That doesn't really refute what I'm saying.
My bad. I missed that suffering would only ever exist as qualia content made from fictional hypostasis. Oh my, we don't even have suffering standards, do we? I'm sure a billionaire peacefully playing golf with own family can be trusted over claims of experiencing suffering as much as anyone else at any point. We wouldn't want to intrude and be skeptical of others' experiencing, right?

'chouli is the perfect intj breeding bull. I wish I could have his babies. They would be so smart.

Imagine carrying infjs little feeler babies to term. The very thought is enough to induce postpartum

>>81519194 (OP)
>your type
intp 5w4
>do you think soulmates are real?
yes but in an unusual sense. Everything we do is incorporated into the total "narrative" of our life and and failures are bad in a sense that "can't be recovered from" but on the other hand every future potential relationship also has the capacity to make up for it.
i do think fundamentally there is a point at which your life is "no longer able" to have a soul mate because you've fucked up so badly (or been fucked up, it's not always your choice) but there are people who have potential soul mates (partners for life) and failing to fulfill that is a deep failure
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
don't feel like i've ever gotten good advice that I appreciated, but i also tend to appreciate everyone's input? don't feel like any one is particularly more insightful or not
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
i tend to find istps really compelling for some reason i like to learn about them and figure out what's going on up stairs b/c they are so private

Which reggies are sloggy alts?
Which reggies are 47 alts?
INFA-A and TE are the top contenders.

>>81536955
Those two are definitely top contenders

INFA enjoys the pain of being BTFO'd, it's a good contrast between the thoughts in his head about him winning. If all he knew was getting BTFO'd, he wouldn't be getting BTFO'd or know of it

i won't even feed your tantrum by filling in the template.

you are like a neglected toddler who spills cheerios on the floor on purpose as a cry for attention. it would be sad. would be, if in this case it weren't more like you're throwing cheerios in people's laps and calling them cheerio spillers hoping that mommy will pat your butt for exposing the naughty mess makers. effectively bamboozled never to discover that in the meantime you had shit your diaper.

>>81536891
>there's a lot to life outside of the consensus sensibilities.
Of course this is true. Which is PRECISELY why most people cannot recognize that suffering is the catalyst for growth. The sensible position is that suffering is bad, and bad things don't have good outcomes. You know, on account of being bad.
>A premise that's against the points I've expressed.
You're the one who put forth the idea that everyone is pampered. Your premises go against the premises you've expressed?
>suffering-centered thought
You've got it backwards. Suffering is not the central point; suffering, in and of itself is not virtuous, meaningful, or desirable. It's merely an unavoidable fact of life.
Meaning is the central point.
Suffering does not give meaning to life, you give meaning to suffering, such that you do not have to suffer meaninglessly. Because you WILL suffer, there's no avoiding that.
Suffering without meaning is pure chaos, it's a prison that traps you in an unending nihilistic endeavor. But, if you're willing to burden that suffering, not just endure it; not only that, but be willing to add a bit of extra weight of responsibly to it by saying:
"Maybe, just maybe, there's a chance something good could come of this, and maybe even further than that, I could be something more than I currently am because of this."
In that moment, everything changes, you begin to walk a path of transformation, rather than being trapped in utter meaningless agony. You change from a victim of circumstance to the arbiter of your own fate.

THAT is the entire point.
As Nietzsche would say, "He who has a why to live can bear almost any how."
The goal is not to walk through the valley of fire that is life unburned, but to emerge from the other side tempered by the fire. And the only way to for that to happen is if you engage with the fire willingly, and for that to happen, there has to be a purpose or a meaning behind the suffering. Or else you'd just avoid it like the plague.

He sure talks a lot for someone who knows so little

babies are supposed to shit their diapers. you're not a baby, obviously. but people can cut you the slack for doing baby things while being in an immediately identifiable infantile stage of development. no one would have an issue with a mental baby metaphorically shitting their diaper.

the cause for concern is when the baby attempts machiavellian work arounds to distract its caregivers from discovering a shit they can already, undeniably smell. a shit they can easily see inflating the absorbent layers of the diaper.
of course a baby is too young to understand how evident its shits are. it is a harmless and even endearing aspect of babies to forget their place in the world as they explore and learn it.
the worrying element is that a baby would be so ashamed of its bowel movements it would feel a need to hide them.

at the very least, you do have my thanks for quickly dispelling any fomo about this place. good luck with your shits. excreting. flinging. sniffing. wallowing in. who smelt it dealt it denying. all that good stuff.

>>81536891
>I'm pointing at the missing link of _"interpretation"._
Could you be a bit more clear here?
>But the inherently abstract suffering?
Yes, unfortunately. Suffering transcends physical pain. And obviously, people can warp the word to mean whatever they want. Since, you're right, suffering is purely subjective. Someone might call driving to work suffering, or sitting in a meeting suffering, or they might even say they're suffering just so they get a moral leg up on you.
But this, much like the misuse by people of Jung's teachings, doesn't detract from the overall point.
Just because people misuse a screwdriver as a weapon, doesn't mean screwdrivers are suddenly bad or useless, or what have you. It just means the people misusing the tool need to be reprimanded.
>Twilight of the Idols, anyone?
Suffering is not an ideal. It shouldn't be used in some identity politics sort of way like how modern people use "oppression" or how they do the same thing with "mental illness". It becomes virtuous to have these things. Which is obviously nonsense.
None the less, people will do this.
>I missed that suffering would only ever exist as qualia content made from fictional hypostasis
The same thing applies to pain. Pain is a completely subjective thing, as are all experiences. If you can dismiss suffering on that basis, you can dismiss pain, and basically all experiences.

It's also very un-Jungian to say something that is completely subjective can be dismissed as invalid, because the subjective is as real as the objective.
>*Scolding finger wag*

>>81537278
>most people cannot recognize that suffering is the catalyst for growth
Ok, "growth." Let's presume it's context system has actuality to what matters. If you're going to engage the ficton's engine that is transcendent function to summon SUFFERING and MARTYRDOM and WISDOM and whatnot, why not cut to the core and summon something more efficient for growth, something that's even more efficient than what rejects no-suffering efficiency to boost efficiency through SUFFERING and MARTYRDOM and WISDOM?
>You're the one who put forth the idea that everyone is pampered.
Everyone?
>>You're pampered if you have enough mental room to try processing the meta of having a decision.

>It's merely an unavoidable fact of life.
>Meaning is the central point.
If meaning is the central, why try giving suffering validity?

>>81537406
Suffering is only ever chosen to be (mis)interpreted to be.

>Suffering transcends physical pain.
Yeah, as it's fictional and you can force mind-over-matter whilst having the pain be weak enough to be recognized as pain, having it all as cerebral fiction phenomenon play.

>Pain is a completely subjective thing, as are all experiences. If you can dismiss suffering on that basis, you can dismiss pain, and basically all experiences.
You can empirically/scientifically/pragmatically measure pain's specific signals even in animals. Vague "suffering" doesn't have such consistency. As a human example, you may see depression biomarkers, but depression isn't suffering.

>the tool
And what the term "suffering" would be a tool for?

>something that is completely subjective
How would you say that suffering is not a social construct?

These threads do not talk about mbti. It's all jung and pedantic pseudos arguing semantics.

>>81537528
>pedantic pseudos arguing semantics.
Isn't it great?

I am about to put INTJfembois arguments vs INFJ-A in chatgpt. I'll tell you who won.

>>81537610
I use ChatGPT a lot and am pretty sure it will side with INFJ-A.

>>81537247
>>81537401
>Pretending to be someone coming out of the woodwork just to tell you how much they don't care so you can tell them they obviously care and pretend someone cares/acknowledged you
Dude, please go solicit a hug from a professional cuddler. Talk to an old person sitting alone with a coffee at a Waffle House counter. Call an infomercial 800 number pretending to be interested in purchasing the product... Something.
Or just fucking join the conversation in an earnest way. You're allowed in. I promise your ego will survive any pushback even if civil debate feels like a direct assault on your physiological stability. I highly doubt it helps the spiral to jeer louder and louder from the sidelines feeling less and less in control the more you're ignored. Why do you do this to yourself? And publicly? Why not cut your losses at that point? Why refuse help from people who have watched you dig yourself deeper into cope and alienation for years? Just because it feels like judgement, and judgement feels like mortal danger? You're the only one who holds a tally against yourself. I know the scary part about reputations not lasting here means positive impressions don't stick either, but why convince yourself the negative ones will just to feel a sense of permanence? Even if you convince yourself it's set in stone, the slate renews itself each day. I hope you can eventually accept and take advantage of that. You're an interesting guy apart from the neurosis and the trauma that autopilots you so often.

Also, I miss her too. So just be the unsplintered you, and everyone wins.

>>81537610
As I'm too vexingly impatient in crash-testing things, you're approximately 5 hours too late. Although I didn't use exactly ChatGPT and I had to do self-harm to prove a point.
Humans are just more fun for this.

>>81537610
It's not even an argument. It's just INFA mouthing a bunch of words and patch trying his best to educate him and correct the poor reasoning and lack of understanding. Over and over. I bet patch herself wouldn't even classify this as an argument. INFA isn't smart enough to understand that he's being schooled.

>>81537506
>to summon SUFFERING and MARTYRDOM
You've misunderstood and misrepresented my, Jung's and Nietzsche's point. The goal is not to summon suffering, or to martyr yourself. The suffering is there, you choose to engage with and integrate it, or not.
It's more accurate to say that by trying to avoid suffering you're summoning it.
>Everyone?
Yes, everyone. Everyone has the opportunity to reflect on the past in downtime, therefore they're pampered, by your own definition. Everyone has time to rest, everyone has time to dream. There is no such thing as a person who is 100% submerged in chaos and has 0 ability to reflect on the past.
>why try giving suffering validity?
Because there is no erasing suffering. Unless, of course, you're willing to erase the opposite of suffering. Which, might make you the devil incarnate.
>Suffering is only ever chosen to be (mis)interpreted to be.
That is disingenuous, and again, a projection of your own psyche. It also reeks of the post-modern ideology that "everything is subjective".
>as it's fictional
This is distinctly anti-Jungian. The subjective is not fictional.
You might even call it anti-human to label subjective experience as fictional.
>but depression isn't suffering
That's where you're wrong.
>And what the term "suffering" would be a tool for?
Individuation?
>How would you say that suffering is not a social construct?
The same way I would say pain is not a social construct.
>>81537528
You're vastly incorrect, individuation is not just related to MBTI it is the very foundational core of it. It is the entire reason psychological types were developed in the first place. If you strip individuation from MBTI, what you're left with is a superficial persona label that has no meaning or depth at all.

>>81537751
>If you strip individuation from MBTI, what you're left with is a superficial persona label that has no meaning or depth at all.
Damn you described MBTI perfectly

>7777
Oh baby yes. MBTI confirmed superficial labelling gun

>>81537702
>MFW someone tries to "educate" me on post-modern-Marxist ideals that everything is subjective, and everything is just a game of power, and that everything is a social construct.
>>81537777
Not if you read the MBTI manual. The modern conceptualization of MBTI is nothing like what it was supposed to be. You are right in that sense, it's become a shell of its former self, used only to aggrandize the inflated ego of the sensoid by making them feel like hekkin speshul bois with the super hekkin intuitive intuitions.

>>81537818
What's it feel like being dommed by patch God? I kinda wish I could feel it too, ngl. It must be a good feeling, to feel so small underneath him. To feel the weight of his intellect pressing down on you, pinning you into submission

>>81537247
>>81537401
Diapey posting?? IN MY MBTI THREAD??

>>81519194 (OP)
ENTP - Debater - Insecure.
You need both depending on Circumstance. At first a feeler is better but when you need to actually solve the problem the thinker is better.
Not really.

MBTI isn't scientific at all. Psych grad here.

>>81537919
Same anon.

Soulmates aren't real, love as a relationship is forged and a decision. You can BE in love with someone and still not choose to love them.

>>81537528
That's because this is really a psychology thread with a focus on typology, and psychology is to philosophy as engineering is to physics. Psychology applies and empirically tests principles that originate from philosophical, theoretical frameworks.

Philosophy is mapped through language. There are no equations or experiments to settle shit definitively, just words. So the meaning of those words becomes the battleground. Creation of shared meaning or confirmation of opposed meaning has to be settled to advance from any semblance of foundation.

Take any concept: "truth", "justice", "existence", "freedom", "identity", whatever. These aren't empirical terms with fixed definitions, they're abstract as hell. You can't argue about "truth" until you both/all agree what it means. Spoiler: you won't, and you shouldn't---even if you mutually possess an inherent awareness of what it is. The temptation to believe that an elemental force of being is something anyone could be actually be unaware of, not just preferring to articulate differently from you is part of the allure of the illusion of duality.
So you spend half the debate just trying to pin down definitions, pretending there's a need to define anything at all and that language and thinking is what clarifies the self-defined rather than obscures it.

But returning to entertaining the extent of the utility of objectivity... In philosophy, definitions are political and metaphysical weapons. Whether something "exists" in metaphysics depends on what you mean by "exists". Is a number real? Depends on your definition of "real". That's a semantic question, but it changes your whole ontology.

>>81537873
Feels like a group of small animals hooting and hollering in the distance, but then when you turn to look at them they scurry into the shadows to avoid your gaze.
Or, maybe it's like someone taking a wooden chisel to the steel foundation of my building, striking it vehemently in opposition and managing to chip off the tiniest fleck of paint and hoisting it into the air while saying some comically over the top catch phrase, like "BEHOLD, THE TITAN BLEEDS!" as if it's a grand victory and then fleeing into the darkness once again.

I can't say I feel much pressure at all from that sort of "domination".

>>81537528
>>81537946
Then there's the issue that sloppy language = sloppy thinking = sloppy construct creation/reinforcement. If someone uses a term vaguely or equivocates between meanings, their whole argument can fall apart. Philosophy nitpicks word use because it's trying to be ontologically airtight. It's like arguing with someone on autistic savant nightmare mode, where saying the wrong thing once gets your entire point dismissed because rhetorical laxity is weighed as far more grave an offense than contextual rigidity.

Plus, analytic philosophy (i.e. the one dominant in the West) is essentially based on linguistic epistemology. Debating semantics isn't off topic, it's the prerequisite to the effective existence of the subject itself.

A lot of disagreements are actually about semantics even when people pretend they aren't. Like when people argue if AI is "conscious", they're just arguing over what "conscious" means. Change the definition, and the argument flips. Flip enough times and you phase through the atomic structure into the field of pure awareness going, "Oh, right. It's all in order and all the same but all disordered and nothing alike" until that begins to resemble fragmentation more than Matryoshkic unity and/or you get bored and pretend there's something to know or not-know and a need to un-know or learn/conquer the rights to its identification again.

>>81537957
Why do you describe patch as "fleeing" into darkness or scurrying into the shadows to avoid you when he's been answering you the entire time, and directly? You must be projecting your own tactics here or something. Quite revealing

>>81537885
thats how you know centies in it

>>81537971
>where saying the wrong thing once gets your entire point dismissed because rhetorical laxity is weighed as far more grave an offense than contextual rigidity.
Only word game players would consider this a bad thing

>>81537991
Because I was describing a feeling, not of Patchy, but of anon's assertion of me being dominated. Two separate things.

>>81538025
It's fair if that's what's really happening. You can only argue what someone presents as their argument. But if they acknowledge their misarticulation and you accuse them of backpedaling and making excuses because your end goal is to "win" an argument rather than to advance a dialogue, though, you're fragile and immature. Sometimes it's also that one party is resorting to literalism as a "gotchya" because they couldn't comprehend either simplicity or nuance, or they want to pretend not to because it forces "win" conditions in their favor sooner.

>Thing happens.
If it happens between two people of a certain disposition, and in a certain context, it is this subcategory of thing. If it happens between others, in another, it is a different category of thing.

>A brick to the head happens.
A nigger was niggering. I bricked him.
I was I-ing. A nigger bricked me.
To the head, a brick happened in both situations, but to different circumstances-as-individual and for different reasons by different causes.

>>81538026
It wasn't an assertion, it was a statement of fact. And it's in your face, here and now, not off hiding in the shadows. Though, I understand that you wish it were. Why does the thought of being dommed by patch God scare you so much that you'd distort your inner sense of reality to the extend you'd consider the declared observation of domination to be a mere shadow jab rather than plainly and simply stated?

>>81538109
I accept your subjective experience of the situation as real, anon.
Don't tell Patchy, though. He might dismiss it as purely subjective qualia which can be attributed to fictional hypostasis.

>>81538100
Too semantics didn't read

>>81538174
Nice dodge roll

>>81538195
Thanks, but it wasn't even a dodge roll. My spacing is immaculate, the attack missed by a single pixel without me having to move.

>I decide who is based and who is cringe, and I reign supreme above them all. Now that I've called you cringe, that's what you are. And the whole thread agrees, because no one disagreed, and because they believed additional others to agree. Submit! Submit to me!

>I pwned you. I pwned you and I looked very sexy doing it. Now that I've pwned you and remarked on my own pwning of you, pwned is what you've been. And the whole thread agrees, because only people I have to pretend don't exist or are irrelevant in terms of their inferiority to me, or are deserving of my retaliation in terms of their superiority to me disagreed, and because probably at least one or two other people think Occam's Razor applies and absolves me of any implication because the "When dealing with a basket case with no inhibitions and everything to lose, not only anything but everything goes" exception is too rare to consider without being accused of paranoia or hysterics! Succumb! Succumb to me!

Always, doll. That upskirt angle when you pull out the stepladder really makes me feel small. Which means I can't be incriminated for staring at your Pampers, babe that you've reduced me to.

>>81537751
>That is disingenuous
As opposed to...
>The suffering is there
Literal devil's proof.
>opposite of suffering
Impossible as per above.

>Everyone has the opportunity to reflect on the past in downtime, therefore they're pampered, by your own definition.
"People with mental or cognitive deficiencies or illnesses aren't people" is pretty Jungian alright.

>This is distinctly anti-Jungian. The subjective is not fictional.
I'll tell Jung once I'll resurrect him that you either debunked the transcendent function or have no reading comprehension, I guess.

>That's where you're wrong.
I can feel the opposite of pain towards depression, so no.

>>And what the term "suffering" would be a tool for?
>Individuation?
Subpar tool with better alternatives, then.

>The same way I would say pain is not a social construct.
Ok, show suffering being as objectively verified as pain.

>>81538211
Knowing a rigorous inspection of your subconscious "it came from the shadows man" perception would be too exposing and thus avoiding it, is what it is -- no matter what we call it

"Suffering" is an attempt to transpose the biological reality of pain onto the existential phenomenology.
The germ moves away from painful salt and towards the pleasurable sugar.
Significance of "suffering" in your model inevitably brings you to some form of hedonism. Even Schopenhauer ended up making a masochist-in-denial hedonist out of himself.
Ah, the social conditioning of "suffering" - truly the saccharine of "the devil you know."

However, even Jung's transcendent function proved that you don't need any dichotomies for propulsion.
Imagine using it to be a germ... harder. Not beyond good and evil for sure.

==>"Indubitably," you concur.

You are THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE ROOM, not because you consistently demonstrate INTELLECTUAL MERIT or genuine INSIGHT, but because you've built your entire BRAND around occupying that position whether or not you've got the QUALIFICATIONS. It only matters that others do not possess the CAPACITY to VET YOU. Your sense of SUPERIORITY isn't grounded in SUBSTANCE, but in PERFORMANCE, and you carefully curate your INTERACTIONS to maintain APPEAR'NTSES.

Rather than engaging in GOOD-FAITH DISCOURSE, you rely on RHETORICAL POSTURING, SEMANTIC NITPICKING, and BAD-FAITH REINTERPRETATIONS of others' words. Your preferred DEBATE STRATEGY is not to understand or be challenged, but to MANIPULATE LANGUAGE until your OPPONENT appears to the ONLOOKERS as less COHERENT or INFORMED. You avoid INTERLOCUTORS who could actually SHARPEN or OUTMATCH you, preferring instead to SPAR with those you believe you can OVERWHELM or OUTMANEUVER through TECHNICALITIES and TONE.

==> What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?

>>81538234
>As opposed to...
Being genuine? You know, like recognizing that suffering is equally as real as pain itself. Or, to recognize that depression itself is suffering.
To be in pain is not always to suffer, but to suffer is always to be in pain.
>Impossible as per above.
Absurd. It's no more impossible than proving any other subjective experience.
>People with mental or cognitive deficiencies or illnesses aren't people
Oh, nice, the slippery slope into absurdity. So now any level of cognitive impairment means a person can't reflect at all? Even Alzheimer's patients have moments of lucidity. Impairment means difficulty, not impossibility. There is no person, not even a person in a coma, who is incapable of reflecting on the past. They dream, they have consciousness bouncing around in there somewhere. Even if the things which arise in their psyche arise strictly from the unconscious aspects, it's still reflection.
>debunked the transcendent function
What are you on about? Neither you nor I made any refences towards the transcendent function there. Pain and suffering are not opposites. They're not even on the same plane of existence. Pain is merely a biological signal, suffering is a psychological phenomenon.
You could say that suffering is psychological pain, but even that sells it short. It's not measurable in the same sense because suffering can happen without physical pain.
Unless, of course, you're trying to argue that the psyche itself doesn't exist and that it's merely a figment of its own imagination.

Suffering isn't a social construct, either. It's about the self grappling with what is, what was, and what could be. It transcends mere physical stimulus. Someone who is stuck in a perpetual loop is suffering. Someone who is consumed by a complex is suffering. Someone who falls into the same metaphorical pitfalls is suffering.

>>81538234
>Ok, show suffering being as objectively verified as pain.
lol you already know he can't

>>81538517
I've no idea who this Anon is talking about, but he's owning them hard here

>>81538517
==>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?

Your EGO is frail, held together by a constant need for VALIDATION and CONTROL, like a NON-REGULATION HOUSE OF CARDS disqualified for ILLEGAL GLUING TECHNIQUES. Or it WOULD HAVE BEEN, if you didn't BRIBE all the PASTE EATING judges.
You don't want to CONVERSE; you want to CONQUER. And you only enter ARENAS where you can STACK, or rather STICK the DECK. When faced with real CRITIQUE or a MIND you can't easily DISCREDIT, you DEFLECT, REFRAME, DISAPPEAR ALTOGETHER, or SWAP OUT BUILDS MIDGAME. In this way, you aren't a BIGBRAIN CHAD or a (((GIFTED))) STACY so much as a STAGE-MANAGED CARICATURE---a TRYHARD masquerading as TYPE-TRANSCENDENT, obsessed with being PERCEIVED AS BRILLIANT while ensuring you're never VULNERABLE or HONEST enough to be PROVEN OTHERWISE, always just PRETENDING to PRETENDING to PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED, never in one spot long enough not to ARGUE that you couldn't have possibly been UNDERSTOOD at that DISTANCE, in that TIMEFRAME, and what's that there, aren't your eyes a bit fuzz-
==> POCKET SAND!!

>>81538234
for got this
>with better alternatives
Such as?
>>81538377
>However, even Jung's transcendent function proved that you don't need any dichotomies for propulsion.
What the hell are you talking about? The transcendent function is STRICTLY about dichotomies. It's the bridge between two opposites (aka dichotomies), such as the conscious and unconscious. There is no propulsion without opposites. You need something to push against in order to generate movement. You can't push against [nothing] and somehow move. It makes negative sense.

You've just unequivocally proven you don't know what the transcendent function is about.

>>81538554
==>POCKET SAND!!

Oh, SHIT. That's shit. Not sand. You left the SAND in your OTHER PANTS.

Underneath the FACADE is someone deeply INSECURE, who values the OPTICS OF INTELLIGENCE over the INTEGRITY OF THOUGHT, and who ultimately sacrifices REAL DISCOURSE in favor of DOMINANCE, or what FEELS like it, or what MIGHT PROTECT YOU.

For you, being RIGHT isn't about TRUTH. It's about ADVANTAGE.

==> Be the Smartest Person in the Room.

nothing to miss but an opportunity to mald huh

>>81538521
>Absurd. It's no more impossible than proving any other subjective experience.
You've already established suffering (and its would-be opposite) is psychological first, subjective experience second, without saying how it's as provable as pain.

>So now any level of cognitive impairment means a person can't reflect at all?
Strawman.

>Pain and suffering are not opposites. They're not even on the same plane of existence. Pain is merely a biological signal, suffering is a psychological phenomenon.
>You could say that suffering is psychological pain, but even that sells it short. It's not measurable in the same sense because suffering can happen without physical pain.
All true, because suffering is made-up, a production of the transcendent function, the archdemon that hijacked the portal through the virus that was contained within the social construct.

>Unless, of course, you're trying to argue that the psyche itself doesn't exist and that it's merely a figment of its own imagination.
Not today.

>>with better alternatives
>Such as?
We may only hope they exist...

>The transcendent function is STRICTLY about dichotomies. It's the bridge between two opposites (aka dichotomies), such as the conscious and unconscious
It's pre-dichotomy. The dichotomies (conscious mind invention btw) are collateral damage caught up in its flows.
>It is in the first place a purely natural process, which may in some cases pursue its course without the knowledge or assistance of the individual, and can sometimes forcibly accomplish itself in the face of opposition (Collected Works 7, par. 186)

>>81538677
And using PlebGPT..
We don't even madden your butt enough for you to post some OC, "Anyon"? Not BERRY orig of u :3c

>>81538721
>>81538677
i used it to capitalize the significant nouns and stuff after typing everything. messing with the shift key throws off my flow.
the sprite is genned, obviously. if i use my own drawing style i won't be able to make drawthreads in peace.

blow it out your ass. my debts for another yikes'd straight episode are repaid. smell you never again, hopefully.

lmao @ him wasting this much time going in circles with my bot

it's honestly too easy

I just noticed that I'm basically arguing for people to regulate out such qualia states which I don't like being taken seriously.
Hell yeah, intrusion. Would you blame me? I wouldn't.
I've lost interest in talking about this.

>>81538700
>without saying how it's as provable as pain.
I can prove it not by the same measures you would prove pain, but by equating suffering to something else, which is chaos.
Suffering is to be submerged in chaos. Suffering is chaos manifest.
Now, it is entirely possible that you've never experienced this, which would explain why you think it's not possible to prove and does not exist.

The opposite to suffering is order. And to apply order to suffering is to integrate it, and give it meaning. This is done with the transcendent function. The bridge between the two, chaos, and order.
The other option is shadow possession. Which is to completely reject the notion of suffering completely. Which, interestingly, is exactly what you're doing, completely refusing to look into the face of suffering and attempting to dismiss it merely as a """social construct""".
The archetypal shadow possession is strong with this one.
>Strawman.
You're the one who implied that somehow or another, there are people who completely lack the ability to reflect due to an impairment. I merely said such a person does not exist (cause they're dead).
>We may only hope they exist...
A hope is nothing but a wish, and a wish is nothing but a desire without action. The reason you can't name one is because it doesn't exist.
Hoping one exists so that you can avoid the confrontation with the shadow is a fruitless endeavor.
>It's pre-dichotomy.
Only in theory. Maybe it exists as a response to opposites, maybe it exists as the precursor to them.

>I've realized I'm actually talking about my own shadow
>And suddenly I've lost interest in this topic
Lel

I've actually been trying to tell you that this WHOLE TIME. You're just projecting your own shadow.
At least you eventually realized it.

That's what you get for preaching to the plebs when you could be hound dog clubbing with fellow celebs.

>>81538855
Never bother with sophists, King

>Don't bother trying to integrate your shadow, King!
G
R
O
S
S
.

>>81538939
>Misconstrue and misconstruct at any opportunity if it be in your "advantage"
Point proven, thank you

Oh~
Ooohh~
What are you waiting for?
What are oyu WAITING FOOR?!
Say goodbye to my heart tonight

Here we are again-
I feel the chemicals kickin' in
It's getting heavier
I wanna run and hide
I wanna hide and hide

I do it everytime
You're killing me noooww~
And I don't be denied by you~
The animal inside of you~

Oh~
Ohhhh~
I was some moreee~
Ohh~
OOH~
What are you waiting fooor,
take a bite of my heart tonight

>>81538855
ignore him girl, pay that toxicity no mind.

>>81538980
>Just project what you're doing and claim that's what [the person you disagree with] is doing instead
You're welcome.

Oh,
The Cosmic JACKPOT,
An static explosion of CHAOS JUICE

UhHNG!~

>>81539000
I didn't misconstrue anything. That's what you did. And then you did it again.

Sophists, not even once

>>81539019
>static
ecstatic
damn these meaty phalanges.

leave intjfemboi alone.

I will cockslap his shadow into submission.

sophie sisters and lilac listeners.... its over.. defeated by the femboi

is intjfemboi x infj-a even possible or would it just devolve into jungian based hate-fucking

>>81539041
I already called dibs first, faggot. Get in line

>>81539045
How the fuck is that bitch's only, SINGULAR vote mine? I hate that bitch. Did seriously nobody else vote for her? Lmao

Well, I'm not gay, so.......

>>81539056
They spent so much effort arguing over nothing that I almost think the effort factor alone could make it work

>>81539045
I like Lilac and Sophie but they aren't cute

What about me!? i'm not even cute enough to be ON THE LIST?!?!!?
;-;!

I miss lilac. I miss her angelic voice. I miss her passion. I miss her.

>>81539295
we all do, anon... we all do...
lilac...

>>81539336
I certainly fucking don't. She can stay gone

>implying she's gone
lel, kek even

>>81539396
I miss her presence. I miss hearing her voice. I'm going to light a candle and listen to some of her vocaroos.

>>81539381
fuck off bully

Please, Sir as-'Tive. You're not yourself when you've gone too long in the partaking of sauteed capillaries in a nice crema di vita. The door is always locked, but that's why you know the secret knock.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J4UUlOde2ik

>>81538986
>soft launching my brainwaves before my hitting "Post" as I peruse the symbol-signal vault
That felt personel, kid.

>>81539045
>>81528693
The Patchouli fan, if that's who the pollmaker meant by "intjfemboi" is too uptight to be cute. Rapeable, but in a genuinely needs to be taught a lesson and simultaneously made less of a shivering prude while at it, not a "cute aggression" way.

Lilac is only conceivably cute in the way that the sheep who wears the skin of a wolf used to be innocent, before it was defiled, driven to snap and become wolfskin walker.

Kris can't make up his mind about whether it benefits him more to be seen as cute or something else. And beneath that, he can't decide whether he wants to weaponize the perception of cuteness a la moe reaction image, or whether he actually wants to pass as plausibly cute behind the screen. Which is conniving at surface and deepermore piteous; ergo, not cute.

Turbie Enjoyer is animus possessed due to an imbalance of internal practical femininity, which manifests deceptively as a lust for a highly feminine counterpart. There is a void where his cute should be.

Turbie is desperate, which would be cute if the desperation were in crux idealism, not a willingness to overlook cruelty and people please firestarters lest any supply of validation be lost, ultimately losing much more in quantity and quality alike. Another fallen from the grace of kawaii, caught in a war they couldn't stay pure and still fight for.

Sophie likes and is associated with cute things, but is at most cute adjacent in the way the elderly are endearing in their harmlessness which borders on helplessness.

Centaur is somewhere in between Kris and Sophie in terms of a debatably technical but not defensible cuteness that elicits an unfortunate sympathy. Someone who once knew and possessed cuteness, and longs for a return to it.

INFJ-A knows how to access and channel platonic cuteness, but in totality cannot be called the cutest. There is another whose final form is Cute itself; though they too traversed all planes and mastered all elements, Cute is the school which they devoted their skill, prowess, and loyalty toward.

Megumin is a Slav, and is genetically, hereditarily, and spiritually predisposed to ugliness. This is why he, like Turbie Enjoyer, covets cute in the form of a gee eff.

I did not vote in the poll.

>>81539437
>I miss her presence. I miss hearing her voice. I'm going to light a candle and listen to some of her vocaroos
Absolutely pathetic

i didnt know isfp sophie hater could be literate when they wanted to

>>81539493
isfp sophie hater is more articulate and well-written than sophie thoughever

>>81539489
>Absolutely pathetic
I love hearing her voice. It's quite enjoyable. I especially like all of the random sound effects and noises she makes.

>>81539480
>There is another whose final form is Cute itself; though they too traversed all planes and mastered all elements, Cute is the school which they devoted their skill, prowess, and loyalty toward.
Who is this qtPie, then?

>>81539532
.
.
.

Apparently you're aware. I don't like it. Stop.

Online gotcha debates are Bloodsport for retards

>>81539469
Imma fuck you UP if you try "raping" him you nignog

>>81539469
>>81539480
Interesting shadow reg. Says things which strongly suggests that they're certain regulars (namely some unique ideas and thought processes which certain people have expressed in the past), but they also say things that rule out those same regs as possibilities.

Slavix are funny as fuck don't shit on them again

>>81539469
>That felt personel, kid.
Perhamsus it was curated specifically for your mind ears to taste.

>>81539589
>Calling covert timesies with baoquan li variation
Crafty.

Don't ever say I didn't give you time for the numbing agent to kick in.

>>81539694
Why, telegraphing tricks is just the signature of you new breed of magicians, isn't it?

AHHH IT'S THE DIDDY PRINCE

Off-topic. Off-topic... OFF-TOPIC! This thread is in DIRE need of our Red Truth, to save it from all this regularslop..

Chuck is a futa with a bibisi

>>81539761
It's not Prince, though it also can't be Lilac since the reviews insult Centaur. It's a shadow regular introducing himself to the world. Possibly Sloggy 47's second-in-command.

ayo these discord diddy gooners pmo sm atp bruhh

Who was the biggest reggy aura farmer

[Red]
Behold the true dance of shadows beneath the fractured moon, where the self, like a cracked mirror scattered in a storm, must gather its jagged shards. Each gleaming with the grime of the unconscious beast snarling beneath the surface. To flee the dark is to live forever as a puppet with no strings, a mask stitched tight over a yawning void, spinning in circles of half truths and half lies until the marrow of your soul dissolves into nothing but static.
But to stare straight into that abyss,
Into the shadow's snarling, gaping mouth and invite it to sip tea in your trembling hand, that is the savage rite of passage.
Only by swallowing the venom and the nectar alike does the twisted seed of wholeness sprout, gnashing through the rot and decay of the persona's brittle shell to uncover something gleaming below.
Beware though, for this path is not paved with comfort, not rainbows, flowers and sunshine; but, with fire and jagged glass alike. Yet it is the only road out of the labyrinth of fractured selves and eternal echoing madness.
[/Red]

>*See!*
>She's right HERE.
Bro... Work on your sleight of hand. Or at least paint the nails if you're gonna try to do me like that, c'mon.

>>81539589
I'll permit you to speak for me, given the circ-'em stances. Need a stem cell donor army anyhows.

>>81539687
You and what dogsneed dog world, smellslike?

>>81539694
Peter Pan found his stapler.
Might take some getting used to.

>>81539707
Hey, everyone's downstream from an estate so stately. Don't blame the fated to mog caste-ingratiated for maiming as the great Nord deigned we.

>>81539737
For a tongue given taste the buds of another tongue that is unlike the tasted itself, whereby constant exposure has dulled delicateness of deviations, is dare I say /deific/.

>>81539745
Say it to and not just in view o' muh plates, then.

>>81539798
You wouldn't even make it to Trial, bud. It's just not in your stars. Erstwhile, Her art's in the cards.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5XUC1-CNlmk

>>81539826
Seems awful rose-toned to me. Could mistake it for a candygram if the messenger had the gumdrops to put the mascot suit on.

[Red]
A place where the psyche becomes the remnants of battleground, a lost fight between the self and itself, a liminal space between has been and could have been.
A noman's land of forgotten dreams and shattered illusions, drenched in the blood of the shadow clinging to a life it never had, and a crown it never earned.
Its ethereal grasping hands slip and lose grip like a clown comically falling on a banana peel dropped from his own banana, and its ill gotten crown falls into the abyss of his own heart.
A heart that beats not with life, but of echoes, echoes of a throne never sat upon, and a kingdom never ruled forever saved in the delusions of the fragmented self.
A heart, that possibly holds the one savior, buried beneath the layers of cynical, hysterical laughter and the scorched flesh of forgotten confessions, twitching like the last bait worm in a tin can labeled "Hope".
The savior, not dawned in light, but cast in shadows and darkness stitched together with the thread past regrets and the remnants of dried dream pulp, never sought to be seen again.
A thing neither grotesque nor noble, but hidden and obscured by the blurried lens of self deception. Unbearably familiar like a forgotten voice that screams your name through your own spine at 3am.
Yes, that's him. He looks into your own eyes, the wretched one of composted selves discarded into the recesses of the psyche, dragging behind it a mirror as if it were a heavy cross, begging for the self to peer. Even for just a moment.
The circus tent erupts into flames as the mirror turns inward, the music distorts and the reflection of the self melts away like an ice cream cone in the hot summer sun.
The audience, all cardboard cutouts with your own face and hallowed out eyes all cheer in silence and beckon you deeper into the flaming tent. You try to step forward, but your feet do not move, the floor drags you forward like a conveyor belt made of old diary pages and broken promises to yourself.
[/Red]

>>81539979
>You wouldn't even make it to Trial, bud. It's just not in your stars. Erstwhile, Her art's in the cards.
Okay but what will you do if you woke up and found out that your imouto dancing on top of you

E R S T W H I L E

>The miniball retrieved from the artific-illumined pond beside the windmill drip dries

Good night, /mbti/. I'm going to sleep now.

>>81539480
I was going to ask for all of those explained in that order and you did? Who are you?

An INTP, ahh, yes that was my first guess

[Red]
As you're whisked deeper in to the flaming pit of what was once a tent but now resembles something more like a heart beating with a rhythm to a song of truth too old to name, too true to articulate, and too stupid to ignore.
The layers peel away revealing old wounds hidden behind rotten scabs, as the heat grows another layer of what you thought you were melts away like the fat being rendered of a slab of bacon sizzling on a pan placed on the sun itself.
The voices of people telling you who you are, and what you ought to be echo like sermonized static slogans stitched to every childhood trophy, every backhanded compliment and fake smile. They reverberate through the hallowed out marrow of your bones like ghosts screaming into tin foil cups while growing more grotesque, more absurd until the the sounds all collapse into wet mouth sounds like the kind only only shame makes in the corner of your mind.
Each word drips from the air, down your shoulders and sticking to your skin trying to remind you of a weight you once agreed to carry. But now it's too hot. The lies can't keep shape in this heat. The (you) they built begins to bubble and flake, revealing the thing writhing in agony, the half formed, half remembered, but entirely yours.
And somewhere deep in the folds of this pulsing inferno, something small and terribly calm begins to hum.

It's not a song. Not really. More like a vibration. A recognition. Like a tuning fork struck deep within the guts of the world resonating with the frequency only you were ever meant to hear.
A scab splits open
The mirror grins
The clown weeps
And from the molten ground
something bursts forth and gasps its long forgotten, long denied,
first breath.

You.
[/Red]

>>81540084
>I'm going to sleep now
Good night, Anon. Sleep well.

>>81539694
It's not me, I wouldn't say something like that..

>>81540088
Why did you want to know about the four of us?

>>81540118
I trust you. For now...

russian intp
sophie cutie
i want
tickle your
feet

I smell a transcendent function in the air, a Bridge of sorts between the minds eye and the eyes which seek to taste the light of the divine knowledge hidden beneath the sludgy grime of algae built up across a millennia of unladen sun exposure.

I swear to God if thats lilac

its hands

>>81540171
>I swear to God if thats lilac
it kind of is and it kind of isn't.

kind of lame answer

>>81538876
So, to get a bit pushy (the gravest sin in the puer aeternus "no action - no blame" society) with trying to show people's lives can have any more meaningfulness than that of a germ is nothing but just...
>archetypal shadow posession
>shadow projection
>what's to be cauterized because of the assumed pathology, clinical Freud caricature style
This is perhaps the most omnidehumanizing, misanthropic, machinistic, brutal bad faith notion branch I had ever seen so far in the external world; worse than those of death cults.
It's also conceptually self-annihilating if actually taken seriously beyond manchild escapism, since, for a suffering addict of any pedantic subdistinction, abandoning the entertainment of suffering is peak suffering to strive for.
Instead of committing to it to the sensible conclusion, you're waging a mean-spirited long-term Thanatos limbo war campaign on everyone and yourself.

>A hope is nothing but a wish, and a wish is nothing but a desire without action. The reason you can't name one is because it doesn't exist.
And this, it is not surprising you formally choose to be blind to the basic capabilities of the transcendent function for the sake of anticonstructivity and sophistic appeal to pseudoperceived closeness of state individuation as virtues.

It takes an alive heartbeat to confront the expression within its tune despite the source and yourself.

>>81540122
>Why did you want to know about the four of us?
because the four of you are the worst posters here and ruined this general

>>81540036
Fistpump the air because I shifted to the timeline where I have a sibling. Followed by pumping and fiststuffs of an other kind.

>>81540084
No, you're not. But sweet luck and good screams when you do give it the old postgrad try.

>>81540088
The only one between the two of us who reads minds, seemingly.

>>81540159
Take an imaginetheograph, it'll linger lasting.

Is that a can of worms you're opening, or are you just casting?

>>81540233
>manchild
no male ever says this holy shit patch really is a femslime

>>81540312
You know you're probably not gay if you experience intense repulsion toward women instead of just indifference, right?

you know you get no bitches or only dry desert pussy if you don't gag and recoil at the sight of her rite

Jews to boys:
>Her fetish is for you to hate her and come within inches of killing her every time you fornicate
Jews to girls:
>If he torments you so badly you're already suicidal by second grade he loves you

What did they meme by this? Psychologically

"spend no more time arguing what possesses a kike. gas one." - marcus hitlaurelius

>>81540281
Casting a spelling of words, you could call it. A phonetic summoning of the unravelling of time and space itself to reveal the harmonic strings of everything vibrating to the tune of my voice.
Laa laaa laaa laaaaa~

Can you feel it?

you know you get no bitches if the sight of sophie's grotesque man-bulge femcock doesn't make you gag and recoil at the sight of it

>>81539772
hi so um, what reggie are you again?

i picture sophie as courage the cowardly dog and his parents as eustace and muriel but instead of getting up to paranormal hijinx he never leaves that computer in the attic

Another caveat of pain vs. suffering is that suffering is an abhorrent compass to begin with, for you can't reliably test and interface paths of suffering as well as those of pain - which are fuzzy, too.

e.g. "I suffer in Socratic dialogue, therefore I... should double down on sophistry" is a common case, certainly an adaptation to believed suffering, but it's anything but individuating. You can't always get a bird's eye of your qualia to have deeper insight on what you feel from why and what'd be sensible, so your rely on what you take as the compass. At some point you won't even be sure if you're suffering or not, at the moment, generating its own suffering. Imagine a compass that spoofs itself.

>>81540403
That I can, Sponge-boy me Bob. That I can.

>>81540233
>"You should just trust your senses and believe the sensible thing, and know that pain and suffering are both objectively bad things which have no value within them at all and that they should be avoided at all costs in favor of some magical "better solution" which may or may not exist but I sure hope it does because I don't want to suffer. Ever."

It's not bad faith, dehumanizing, nor misanthropic to say that you're possessed by your shadow. Unless, of course, you don't know what that means. You might know the words of the definition and be able to recite them verbatim, like a pianist reciting the the learned vocabulary of their musical theory teachings, without being able to feel the music or have any understanding of why those notes work together and stir the soul.
Or worse, perhamps, you're someone who can't even play the instrument,
but still insists you're qualified to conduct the orchestra.

And ultimately, this seems to be where you suffer the largest disconnect. You know the words, but you seem to have absolutely no understanding of what the words mean. It's as if all your knowledge comes strictly from the book, and there's no lived experience to back it up.
It's so bizarre. It's like you've confused your own shadow for the devil and missed the fact it's wearing your face.
There's so many weird layers of irony, like this strange persona you've constructed around the notion that suffering is inherently valueless, a moral evil to be eradicated. As if, being completely sheltered in the true virtuous thing. And through some bizarro abstraction, the complete avoidance of all painful stimulus and the complete avoidance of chaos is *actually* the path to real enlighten of the spirit, and the path to true individuation.

Like.
REALLY?
What in the actual fuck is the bizarro world you're putting forth?

And how in the fuck am I supposed to engage with you when your response is always "Nah, Jung's ideas, and you, are actually just an evil death cult."

D-don't think you can have a full /mbti/ thread without me~! ^_^ Teehee~! :3

zuzzy baga

>>81540470
It's very sensible conclusion to sit in your room all day eating cake, hiding under your comfy blanket of safety. If you're really lucky, it might even net you a long lived life full of cake, diabetes and masturbation to fulfill those sensuous desires you are consumed by.
BUT, this is no way to actually LIVE life, and it does not move you any closer to being a fully individuated person. In fact, it does the complete opposite. It moves you in the direction of being a person who has been consumed by their shadow and completely refuses to confront the difficulties and the chaos of life.

>"No, thank you Chef, I'll reject your dish lightly seasoned with chaos, I don't like how that spice feels on my tongue. I prefer my predictable meals, and my structured kitchen. It feels nice there. No chaos for me, thanks."
It's merely fear masked and dressed in rational clothing.
And fear left unexamined will gladly wear your face and call itself wisdom.

But, eventually, you lose that luxury.
Entropy will see to that without a doubt.
The universe has no interest in maintaining your comfort indefinitely.
Your weighted blanket of safety will catch fire,
and if you're still hiding beneath it when the dragon breathes down,
you will burn with it.
Not because the world is cruel, or through some malicious intent.
But because you refused the call to become something more.
You decided to hide, when you should have pushed forward.
And when your soul finally cries out, quietly, maybe only once,
I can only hope you'll listen.
because after all,
It's not my soul on the line.
It's yours.

>>81539532
>>81539480
I-is it.. Textbox-chan, from Date Everything?

>>81531362
least degenerate Sensoid gathering

>>81541031
I bet you the placement of the line was in itself a hint towards who it is

>>81539818
breeder, shadowreg, chuck, prince

>>81541601
define what you think "aura farming" means because these answers make me wonder if you're confused

>>81541691
Your favorite reggies aren't not larpers just because you're fond of their larps, tard.

do you think rohan the loremaster knows the true identity(ies?) of shadowreggy?

I wonder what Anthony Fantano's type is.

>>81542030
It doesn't take a typological genius to figure out he's an ISTJ, and a lukewarm one at that.

Good morning, ADULTERY Enjoyer.

>>81540462
I guess my mom is common enough to Muriel. My dad is sociable and commonly viewed as charismatic. I've lived in my own home for almost a decade and walk around my land daily, which is so pretty some have said it looks like Heaven. So not the most accurate headcanon.

>>81542030
Whatever type he is, i now hate that type

ENTJs are now officially my most hated type

Emergency bumping holy fuck shit dick

Lowkey farming aura in my room rn even tho I'm just a neet

Good night /MBTI/ may tomorrow be a better day

I want liliac the angelic to post a vocaroo saying hi to esfp chan.

tfw hardly any sleep

sophie is a stupid slut

>>81546127
She's in my heart, and I'm happy to know that she's got better things to do.

>>81519194 (OP)
>your type
enfp 4w5
>do you think soulmates are real?
yes. i think that some people were meant to be together
>who gives better advice: a feeler or a thinker? be honest
it depends on what i'm asking... generally id say a thinker
>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not

>>81548112
sorry i'm a retard i forgot to answer last question Lol

>>is there any type that you feel *drawn* to? inexplicably or not
INTJs.

pop quit /mbti/
what are the functions session and intuition?