If AI 'will lead to a smaller corporate workforce', where else will those former corporate workers start working?

they'll come work with me. in the fields. sup nigga

>>81527639 (OP)
Building robots to cook me FOOD :O

people are gonna have to do more work because AI will be helping them lol

>>81527667
yeah, new bs jobs will be created, most likely to make the AI output look more unique and that stuff

>>81527678
except what you actually get is just more thread making reqs

>>81527639 (OP)
At some point you will finally start to realize that capitalism does not give a fuck about workers. Capitalism exists to make people money, end of story. It does not care if poorfags can feed their families or provide for themselves. It is literally not their concern what happens to you. Capitalism is opposed to nationalism for the reason that it's goals are opposed to nationalist goals. There are no nations for capitalists.

>>81527667
>>81527678
Nah, they're just going to lay a bunch of people off and will tell the remaining people to work three times as hard.
If they fuck up because of AI they'll just start banning AI and will maybe hire more people eventually to do the same work as before.
Mainly it's just going to be layoffs and more work for whoever keeps their jobs in the next few years.

Total bullshit. You need software engineers who understand tech enough to iterate on software. Even if devs are no longer coding (which is the very likely future) they're still supervising work because they need to translate high level requirements into technical language. Currently AI produced code isn't perfect but in the future where it is the engineers role will be more to guide the output and check results than writing code. There will be LESS developers but the ones left will do more work with the assistance of better tooling. This isn't really the "future" since this is already the case at many companies. You will not have brainlet managers having AI agents completely doing the full role. They will not even have the time to set that up or manage infrastructure.

>>81527639 (OP)
Stuff is going to be almost free right?
No inflation right?

>>81527710
>they're still supervising work because they need to translate high level requirements into technical language
I've been coding for 25 years, and it's already possible to write a list of atomic fact types in plain English, translate them into a database schema in third normal form using a program, and generate a CRUDL user interface for the database. You can generate whole apps without AI, people just don't do it because they don't know it's an option.
>but anon I don't know what that means
So use AI, I'm not your momma

>>81527639 (OP)
60-70% of the population used to work in agriculture
Now it's like 2-5%
Did you notice that we aren't all unemployed because they replaced human labor with tractors?

>>81527841
The statement you're referring to is describing a software development workflow that involves moving from a conceptual model of information (described in plain English) to a fully working database-backed application. Let's break it down step by step:


"Write a list of atomic fact types in plain English"
Atomic fact types are the smallest, indivisible pieces of information that describe something. Think of them as basic relationships or data points.

Examples:
"A customer has a name."
"An order has a date."
"A product has a price."
"A customer can place an order."
"An order contains products."

These are all atomic facts - the simplest units of information that can be modeled in a database.


"Translate them into a database schema in third normal form"

Once you have those facts, you can convert them into a database schema. The Third Normal Form (3NF) is a standard in database design that:

Eliminates redundant data
Ensures data is logically stored
Promotes data integrity

For example:

You might have separate tables like Customers, Orders, Products, and OrderItems.
Relationships between them are represented using foreign keys.
From the atomic facts above, your 3NF schema might look like:

Customers (CustomerID, Name)
Orders (OrderID, CustomerID, OrderDate)
Products (ProductID, Name, Price)
OrderItems (OrderItemID, OrderID, ProductID, Quantity)

This schema removes duplication and structures data efficiently.

>>81527888
"Using a program"

This implies you're using a tool or software that can:

Parse the plain-English descriptions of facts
Automatically generate a normalized database schema

There are tools that can take a structured list of English facts and build the schema from it (some use natural language processing or strict templates).


"And generate a CRUDL user interface for the database"
CRUDL stands for:

Create
Read
Update
Delete
List

This is the full set of operations you'd expect in a user interface for managing data.
So, the program would also:

Automatically generate web forms, tables, and views
Allow users to interact with the data (e.g., add customers, view orders, update products, delete items)


"You can generate whole apps without AI"
This means that:

No AI is required for this process
The system is rule-based or template-driven

As long as you follow the expected format, the tooling can generate an entire working app from the facts and schema
This is often used in low-code/no-code platforms, model-driven development, or domain-specific languages (DSLs).

Summary
The statement means you can:

Describe your data and relationships using simple, structured English.
Use a program to automatically turn that into a normalized database design.
Auto-generate a user interface for creating, reading, updating, deleting, and listing that data.
Do all of this without needing AI - just by following rules or templates.

>>81527883
We aren't all self sufficient land owners either anymore in case that escaped your attention.

>>81527923
"Self sufficient land owners"
You mean people who work the land and can end up dying due to famine and bad harvests
They had no safety net.

>>81527841
"AI Coders" are slower, produce more bugs, and soend far longer editing and fixing code than human devs

>>81527841
Unfortunately, many people are aware nocode crap like that is an option.
What happens is someone pays for it and then its limitations become apparent and nobody uses it and work continues being done with code for whatever the users request instead of with that user interface.
Only 15 years of experience here.

>>81527945
So slap a custom UI on top of the screens that need it. It's still talking to the same database. I'm not talking about no-code solutions, I'm talking about generating the code using logic.

>b-but my faggot outdated UI framework doesn't let me do that
Code To An Interface

>>81528818
That's what nocode is.
You trap users in a crappy UI and force them to use that to generate code instead of having people write code directly.

>>81528922
So use a better framework that has an IoC container under the hood and lets you write your custom controls or screens to an interface. Ideally, you should be able to swap out the whole rendering layer to make the UI future-proof.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/383947/what-does-it-mean-to-program-to-an-interface

>>81527639 (OP)
they'll work in india and be happy.

>>81528956
That would make it so you could keep patching it every time someone finds a new thing they want to do that isn't readily doable in the UI, but you could also just have people who program directly instead and that would be a lot less obnoxious.

>>81527639 (OP)
> where else will those former corporate workers start working?
Fent city. Skid row.

>>81528999
What's really obnoxious is throwing away all of your code every five years because you didn't code to an interface.

>>81529012
I don't mind writing new code.
I more mind being locked inside UIs like Azure Data Factory and having to drag and drop shit instead of being able to just work with the code directly.
Thankfully the push for nocode solutions never lasts long and we always go back to writing stuff in pyspark through Databricks or Fabric or wherever and just using ADF as a task scheduler.

>>81529041
You're criticizing no-code black boxes. I'm talking about declarative architecture and inversion of control, which are principles that underpin every scalable system from .NET to Angular. The difference is: my code survives backend, UI, and infra changes because it's built on formal logic and interfaces. Yours gets rewritten every time a framework dies.

>>81527639 (OP)
they're making the huge investments in AI so they won't have to pay white collar salaries anymore
we're headed for mass unemployment and social instability desu

>>81529048
I've never seen a framework change where code didn't need to be rewritten. I've seen people claim they wrote stuff in a way where it won't need rewriting in the future but then when the future came we ended up rewriting it anyway.

>>81529062
It's insanity to make those changes by touching every single file that uses those components instead of just swapping in a new implementation.

They're going to be forced into the military to fight for Israel.

>>81527639 (OP)
nowhere. This is what is being seriously discussed by pseudo intellectuals all over the world today. As well as legit scientists.
Scientists and engineers do not want humanity to create automated weapons and end the species, basically.
While pseudo faggots and business pretends as if they care about the workers and what will happen. Pretty much everybody or the majority at least will be replaced over the next 20 years and there will be no UBI. U.S. is headed for a true dystopia.