Why do men pretend most men don't care about body count? This poor woman is unable to find a professional, clean-cut man around her own age, because men on the Internet lied to her.
I hope the men who claimed it wouldn't be problem are caught, and that one of them, preferably a clean-cut professional, is forced to marry her.

>>81541744 (OP)
KYS redditor, or something

>>81541744 (OP)
Sounds like someone doesn't like her own 'just b urself' medicine.

>>81541798
Just be a professional, clean-cut man around her age, who doesn't have a problem with dating a sex worker, anon.

>>81541756
See the watermark?

>>81541744 (OP)
>Here you drink
>Why it opened?
>Me and my buddy drank some of it
>Dude I don't want it
>What the fuck dude? I went extra mile to save some for you btw that cost 4 bucks pay up

>>81541744 (OP)
Is this kinda like when people on the internet (especially Reddit) say "all women are beautiful", "all breast sizes are fine as long as one can fit in my hand", "as long as she lets me touch them then I'm lucky and they're amazing" "small boobs are better because big ones sag",...etc?

>>81541744 (OP)
This shit is just so hard to believe. Men even at 35 are still just as desperate. This is another case of someone looking for absolute perfection and then being mad for not finding it. She expects people to accept her flaws but she won't accept the others' flaws

>>81541915
This is way worse. All women aren't beautiful. Some men want big breasts, many don't care about breast size, and a few men prefer small breasts.
Extremely few men, and even fewer attractive men, are interested in marrying a sex worker.

>>81541744 (OP)
Simple. Simps are low quality men. Simps will lie in hopes to get sex. There is no such thing as non-judgemental human so those who do not judge are simply liars. Those who do judge are simply honest and thus potentially of more quality than simps. I'm cynical degenerate so I have no problem fucking women who were hookers in the past or interact with them in general, but I still judge and even though I don't act on it when it comes to casual shit, I would not have serious relationship with such woman. I guess I could accept some form of slutty past as I too am stained by degeneracy, making it only fair, but certainly not selling yourself. Problem is, women don't want to hear honest, judgemental takes and so they go by what is much easier to accept emotionally, which is bad for them in the long term. Believing feel-good answers and encouragement is going to solve problem in reality of cruel worls is just sign of naivety. People aren't going to bail you out of your own mistakes forever, especially if you wronged them or lost what they considered valuable in you.

>>81541947
She can still find a man, but only if she lowers her standards a lot. Merely not looking for perfection won't be enough.

>>81542040
I agree that simps are the problem. Why is a slut more acceptable than a whore? How does money make it worse?

>>81542041
It's just so hard to empathise with these women because they just don't realise how decently they have it, but because they can't have the cherry on top they go into a depression.

For once I wish they had the issue where they could not get a single match so they understand how bad it can truly get

>>81542226
She is after commitment. Male commitment is expensive. This is why men often marry women more attractive than they can one night stand.

>>81541744 (OP)
>I had a sudden, desperate urge to settle down
I'm all for arguing for hypotheticals or in spirit of a question, but everything has practical limits.
No genuine street walker with miles of dick inside of her would say this.
>>81541756
basically this

>>81542359
She had a rough/traumatic childhood that put her off traditional relationships for a very long time. If there is such a thing as trauma-induced asexuality, she probably had some form of that. Up until that point she was happy and content to be single and just travel, meet friends, learn new things for the rest of her life.

>>81542041
>>81542316
There are no much men in 35 age who want to settle down. Really just think about upbringing that leads to creation of such man. There is no such upbringing.
Men who wanted to settle down andare successful in romantic life already settled down.
Incels at 35 years old just left dating market completely
There are Chad's who continue ride pussy carousel, but they are no less addicted to this carousel than women and don't want to stop and settle down for just one woman.
There are small amount of divorced and widowers who want back into marriage but their numbers are small (they don't stay single for long) and they are conservative.

>>81541846
Just don't do sex work it's really that simple.

>>81541947
>Men even at 35 are still just as desperate.
They really aren't. Most men who are still single past 32 stop caring, whereas the women get more desperate. The opposite is true when they are younger.

>>81542507
Yeh I mea when you are alone without women over two decades you realize it's going to be like that the rest of your life. So the only winning move is to just give up. Giving up is easy.

>>81542223
It gives external motivator. If you are promiscious because you like sex or something, then motivation and reason comes from within. If you like someone and want to make them happy or something, then that's your internal motivation and reason, meaning it depends entirely on you, your relation with other person and your own morality. If it's external motivation like money then there you have already shown that your morals can bend to external temptation, meaning anyone with enough monetary incentive can tempt you into cheating. It simply makes success of 3rd party involvement much more likely.
Another reason is tied to partially why men avoid sluts or serious relationships. Imagine you marry one, have kids together and one day your kid comes from school sobbing and tells you his mom is whore and that other kids in class has shown him vids of his own mom getting plowed and taking cumshots to the face. That's the big one, but there is also other ones, like other men simply pitying you because they were first. While about the latter you may not care, it was risk you took when you got together with a slut, the former is passing consequences on your kids who did not do anything to deserve it. Now think which is more likely to be involved with more men in the past: slut who does it for fun and does it with her group of friends or is chad exclusive, or hooker who will agree to have sex with anyone who meets some basic hygiene standards?
It's also the reason why porn or anything involving face is much worse than anonymous attentionwhoring on /soc/ with faceless pics: when you get your face involved, your past will always be tied to you and will follow you, while faceless nudes, even if posted for completely vain reason, have high chance of not being consequential.
As I've said, I'm degen myself so I can understand why people would slut around, I wouldn't mind femanon who posted faceless nudes, I could even take some with her, but at least do it wisely.

>>81542507
I think a lot of that has to do with more mature men realizing women are mostly a ball and chain on you. Sex alone just isn't a good enough reward for all the shit the average woman expects you to deal with. The mood swings, the boring personalities, the desire to ruin your finances and freedom with children, the money and time they expect you to spend on them. I know about this stuff from normies in relationships and I don't want any of that in my life. They're all poorer and more stressed than me and they all age like shit as a result. Volceldom is awesome.

>>81542613
>I think a lot of that has to do with more mature men realizing women are mostly a ball and chain on you.
It depends on type of men. There mature men who want to be married, and after divorce they quickly marry again.

>>81541744 (OP)
Well lucky for her she can just lie about it unless her face is all over the internet on porn sites

>>81542571
Picture evidence shown to your children is bad indeed, but have you considered the other side of the coin? A slut was motivated by the excitement. A whore was motivated by the money. Is your wife more likely to meet an exciting man, or a man who offers her money for sex?

>>81542811
Both are possible. It's just that money can be made by different means by almost everyone while being exciting isn't as easily attainable. Also mind that it's not argument between what is good and what is bad. It's argument about which is lesser bad.

>>81542811
Also forgot one thing: you can momentarily lose money for example when you lose job, while your character stays. People like to say shit like "I want someone to love me for who I am, not for my looks or whatever", but the problem is, your looks, your charcters, your actions etc make you. There is no you without these things. What these people actually mean is "I want someone who isn't going to leave me if I change for the worse". While no one wants to look worse, no one plans to get fat, no one wants to end up without income, they have in back of their heads that such possibility exists. Obviously letting yourself go completely due to vanity because you think "well, I have this secured so I don't have to put any effort" is shitty and I can sympathize with people who want to leave because their spouse got fat or turned into alcoholics and trying to get them out of it didn't work, but it would really suck if you got ditched because of one mistake or something temporary. Losing temporarily money is much more likely then losing your character. And looks while are destined to fade, they do it over time at slow pace unless you become some ZOGbot and get your face melted on IED.

>>81541744 (OP)
>professional
Moderately wealthy
>clean-cut
Tall and attractive

Gee I wonder why the guys she likes can do better than her.

>>81542841
>It's argument about which is lesser bad.
Obviously.

>>81541744 (OP)
redditors are subhuman.

i don't know if she would cheat but i don't have good luck so i'm guessing she would

>>81541744 (OP)
>I haven't met a single (normalish) guy who's been ok with my past.
There's her problem. The vast majority of Redditoid men are living basedjaks, which is anything but normal. Perhaps she should start chasing weirdos.

80% of men would date a sex worker. The problem is that she literally doesn't consider them real people beacuse they are not up to her insane standards of men who she slept with in the past (but would never date her).

So she doesn't see them as men, because they are ugly or poor or whatever. Therefore, all the men won't date sex workers, but all the replies she gets says that they would.
Then men willing to date sex workers are men she would never, ever date.

>>81541744 (OP)
Real life isn't the internet.
Most people don't want to get serious with someone who has commodified sex or who has such a casual attitude about it

>>81542647
Say you get married. You have children. You then learn your spouse was a literal whore. Do you try to get the marriage declared invalid, on the basis that you weren't informed before the wedding?

>>81541744 (OP)
This is a dual issue. Redditor males represent the most left-wing neutered faggy viewpoints on the planet. But at the same time, like all women, she no doubt thinks she's owed one of the few valuable guys out there, and she disregards most guys as garbage.
The problem with women like this is they are increasingly vastly in number as time goes on and they have to make other people miserable to drag people down with them after they found out they were "lied to" or whatever.

This is actually the best possible scenario. Women are not hiding their nature anymore. Women who, centuries ago, would have had the sense to at least *appear* moral, are just airing it all out now. You see, even in societies that stone them for this shit, you'd never find out the full truth, or anything approaching it. The fear of death really only ever got them to pantomime purity and get really good at "discretion." Getting them to self-report digitally was a fucking masterstroke.

>>81543158
Part women's nature is to be malleable. Many women who, centuries ago, would have been moral, are corrupted now. I don't think their corruption is worth having the bad women expose them self.

>>81543138
>The problem with women like this is they are increasingly vastly in number as time goes on and they have to make other people miserable to drag people down with them after they found out they were "lied to" or whatever.
Would a spinster tax combined with making it possible for a woman to legally force the man who took her virginity to marry her, unless he already is married, help stop them from dragging us all down?

>>81543388
I disbelieve this, although I used to think the same way. The fact of the matter is that there was never, ever, for even the most infinitesimal fraction of a second, a society in which women weren't this way. What there *was* was a concurrent lack of internet, lack of mass media, lack of literacy, and threat of actual problems should they be found out. There was never an era in which women were sexually moral or even slightly less degen than they are now. There *were*, however, eras in which the gaslighting was accomplished so successfully and on a large-enough scale that the men earnestly believed in and praised the fidelity of their wives.
I don't think it's ever been any different. You point to some era in history where the women were sexually pure, I say those whores did a better job of hiding their indiscretions than other generations. You point to your own grandma and say she never cheated on your grandpa and they were lovey-dovey and monogamous, I say your grandma fucked Chad Splendidwood behind the fucking sock hop while she was dating your granddad and that there was no Snapchat to spread that shit back then.
You will never, ever, peel back a layer and find honesty or nobility. When coming clean, she is mentally assessing how much you probably know and reorienting with a more believable deceit this time. The most you will get is the lizard's wriggling tail. They don't learn honesty, they regret how inartfully they lied and hate the dumb bitch who lied inartfully for almost ruining the secret.
AWALT and it is a biological reality of the species, not a cultural thing

>>81541744 (OP)
>Why do men pretend most men don't care about body count?
So we can add to it, you retard
Men will agree with a women if there's a small chance to get in those panties

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>>81541798
She is being herself, she is just surprised men are dishonest.

And she is spot on. It's not only incels doing it. Men are shit