Why do left-wingers constantly push therapy on people, even though therapy isn't cheap, nor covered by insurance providers to the same extent as other health fields, and tends to be disproportionately white and rarely accessible to anyone who isn't white or upper class?

That seems inconsistent with left-wing values. Therapy has also become an increasingly commercialised industry, which is another inconsistency with those values.

>>81553008 (OP)
>imagine being a poorfag
Lol

I always tell people go see a priest if you need to get something off your chest. they also speak the same stupid therapy language but do it for free.

>>81553008 (OP)
Easy solution. Therapy should be covered under public healthcare.

>>81553011
Imagine dying of preventable diseases simply because you couldn't afford a doctor.

Unfortunately, these are realities for a lot of people.

The left wants to ban guns. To ban guns, they need school shooters. To get school shooters, they need to program school shooters. To program school shooters, they need vulnerable men to be alone with a therapist who works for them.

>>81553044
Amermutts are subhuman i hate you so fucking much
Get raped to death you disgusting fat Amerigolem

For a normies therpay helps somewhat, espically women when 99/100 of their problems are in their own head and overthinking everything.

For robots it's useless at best. We don't talk about problems because we've learned early on no one cares and they actively dislike you if you share anything. The best thing a robot can do is suffer in silence.

>>81553113
Your daddy loves to suck big cock in secret

>>81553008 (OP)
You should always assume that any leftist policy comes from resentment from historically successful groups, like men, whites, and straight people. That is the starting point from which their entire ideology is grown. The concepts of redistribution of wealth or giving the means of production to workers were invented to justify this belief, but they are not the actual ends.
Given that leftists hate straight white men, they are not amenable to the idea that straight white men are suffering. They want to believe that we are privileged and therefore live quite well, and one consequence of that belief is that if we're unhappy, it's probably an internal problem and not a systemic issue. So when they hear we're unhappy, they are not apt to believe the cause of our unhappiness is that women won't date us, or the job market is shitty, or our country is flooded with niggers, or that we're expected to go off and fight in a war we don't care about. Those are all external problems which suggest there is a systemic effort to oppress straight white men. The only conclusion they can reach is that we are broken - we're so broken that we can't be happy despite the immense privilege we enjoy. And if you live a perfect life but have internal problems that make it impossible to enjoy, therapy makes a lot of sense. The issue is that the vast majority of straight white men are normal, well-adjusted people, whose unhappiness is a rational response to living in a world that despises and oppresses them. So therapy can't actually help.

>>81553113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LasrD6SZkZk

>>81553137
Another problem with "therapy" is that it's a broad field that people always erroneously define by the methods or categories of therapy that they're family with, but not the other categories that make up the field in a broad sense. I absolutely despise talk therapy, for example, because it's often what people think therapy is when they hear about it, even though it only covers SOME areas of therapy, and only works for *some* people. Individuals with schizophrenia, for example, would need psychiatry, or something that prescribes them the right medication. And of course there are bizarre therapeutic treatments that you never think would work, but often do for patients who require strangely specific treatments (they exist)

>>81553008 (OP)
Telling people to get therapy is just a shorthand way of saying people/they don't want to solve your problems or think about your problems. The truth is at an individual personal level leftists are extremely selfish and stingy and don't want to devote their lives to being someone bff therapist.

>>81553284
leftist act nice and caring but it's all an act. They don't really care they are just pretending to for social points.

>>81553309
there's no such thing as social points
i can pretend to be racist here and no one is suddenly gonna like me

>>81553332
Yes there are. 90% of a normie's 'personality' is just fake made up bullshit to maintain their social status.

>>81553332
>i can pretend to be racist here and no one is suddenly gonna like me
Try /pol/ or /news/. You'll make friends in no time

>>81553008 (OP)
What's the alternative? I'm as tired of hearing this from other lefties as anyone else, but the reality is that I have serious problems, I've failed to solve them by myself for almost 20 years, and talking to anyone - normalfag or (You) - doesn't help at all. What am I to do then, if I don't want to live a miserable life and then die? Your based and redpilled answer will be that I should kill myself, which is understandable, but I have promises to keep. So all that leaves me with is to try and find my Dr. Shekelberg so I can get prozac and/or amphetamines. What third option is there?

>>81553365
people decide how much they like you regardless of what you believe. at best you can gain tolerance but that is kind of useless as a social benefit.

>>81553332
I made a racist post yesterday and someone replied with the nicest reply I've ever gotten here encouraging me for it

>>81553284
As opposed to right-wingers, who have always respected the mentally ill... wait.

>>81553008 (OP)
Its a scam and grift just like anything else cooked up by Gen X and the left. Piece of mind by talking about things without any real answers with someone thats got the ugly Leon S Kennedy haircut? Golly geee sign me up $380 a session

>>81553401
if you're white they have no reason to hate you, if you're not they don't always know.
>>81553407
the implication was left wingers care about the big picture and not individual people they have no connection to. but obviously no one here does subtlety.

because those left-wingers arent real lefties. real lefties are socialists and communists, these leftists are democratic reddit SJW pigs who follow every new retarded social norm

>>81553397
A dose of shrooms then either visiting a bar for drinks after work twice a week or recreational marijuana on the daily

>>81553309
They aren't selfish from their own point of view. Certain brain areas are small or damaged in the typical leftist brains. A well functioning brain will be able to separate the tribe from all other people. Leftists can't distinguish those two groups.
You wouldn't care to invest any effort to solve the problems of a random guy in Africa. He isn't in your tribe. To the leftist you are that random guy in Africa, even if you and the leftist are friends and perhaps even relatives.
For the same reason the leftist will think you selfish for not wanting the random guy in Africa to come to your country and live off your tax payers.
Should I weaken those areas of your brain, you will start to feel like the lieftist.

i don't know and i don't care.

>t. 20 yo black man who's been going to therapy since i was a kid. paid for by the government :^))

>>81553508
I don't know what flavor of lesswrong motherfuckers you've been talking to but most leftists are not like that.

>>81553526
A big part of the problem "the left" (people who are socialists) have is that they're not willing to accept that people who voted for tony blair are also "the left"

>>81553526
It is a documented fact that most leftists have some degree of brain damage

>why does lefties push for stupid contradictory degenerate shit that doesn't do any good
Did you seriously ask that

>>81553559
you can't prove horseshoe theory right

>>81553008 (OP)
It's just women, because it works for them.

80% of them don't have real problems, and just need someone to hear their bitching and validate them. If they have to burn a ton of cash into it, so be it (they have enough from their meme job and simps/bf).

>>81553788
>Sir Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (born 6 May 1953) is a British politician who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1997 to 2007 and Leader of the Labour Party from 1994 to 2007.
>The Labour Party, often referred to as Labour, is a political party in the United Kingdom that sits on the centre-left of the political spectrum.

It doesn't sound like I have to prove anything.

>>81553011
we have another thread on this very board suggesting men shouldn't spend money

>>81553671
What areas are typically damaged or underdeveloped? The areas in pic related?

>>81553806
it's mostly men who do this in my experience
women are more-or-less evenhanded with these approaches
and women tend to have friend groups where they can express themselves in times of need, which provides the same benefits as most forms of therapy
men, on the other hand, rarely have social to rely on

>>81553008 (OP)
Therapy is Jewish pseudoscience. It exists to gatekeep people from getting pharmaceuticals that might help them be functional. It's a grift.

>>81553008 (OP)
Anyone who goes to therapy and actually puts in the work will find they have little use belonging to a political "club"

>>81553905
That is my understanding, yes

>>81553008 (OP)
>even though therapy isn't cheap, nor covered by insurance providers to the same extent as other health fields, and tends to be disproportionately white and rarely accessible to anyone who isn't white or upper class?
I live in a first world country where therapy is free
You're not missing out on anything, i've been there as a teenager and it was completely fucking useless

>>81553008 (OP)
it also doesn't work at all and is a waste of time and is useless. this shit at best was designed for females.
Unironically current LLMs as well as overall empirical human knowledge of anatomy n shit like this are way more valuable and helpful to me. Cut the fukken bullshit in other words and tell me how it is and whether it can be fixed and how. Typical male approach. I have quit smoking cigarettes (cold turkey) with the help of an LLM, for example, because it has provided me with an adequate plan of action, thought, and data. For FREE. Admittedly I wanted to quit smoking too, otherwise it wouldn't have worked. But the point here is: it's the individual and proper information and action that achieves shit (easily), not pretentious bullshit.
TL;DR: It's the person and the data. Therapy is useless.

>>81553260
>it wasn't real communism!

mostly feels like a waste of time for me, i get the solutions but if there's noone in my real life pushing me to do them and my brain's telling me it's not worth the effort anyway cause the moment i see something that supports my negative thinking patterns it will justify them and i will go into a further depression

at this point i just need a new brain

>>81553008 (OP)
"Get therapy" is just a way for virtue-signaling leftists to say "I don't give a shit about you, but I want to pretend I do. So let me tell you to vaguely get help. No, I don't want to help you or care if my worthless advice isn't practical. Just get out of my face"

>>81553008 (OP)
It's free here but you might have to wait months.

>>81553508
i could agree with this except leftists dont even pretend to care about poor people anymore. if you're a poor or working class person leftists will not only not care about you a lot will actually hate and despise you. not to mention look down on you for it.

>>>/adv/33228765
Therapy is going to become a red flag lol

>>81553041
Imagine dying on a waiting list as the government decides who lives and who dies. Who is brought to the front of the waiting list and who is denied treatment.
Did you know people in Canada were denied organ transplants for years if they didn't get vaccinated?

There are usually free therapy options available, but the problem is, they usually suck

>>81553397
>20 years
Lmao imagine thinking you need therapy cause you cant figure out if you want to go to college or not

>>81554925
That's almost 20 years of depression, not life. Things were pretty good until I started nooticing girls.

>>81553008 (OP)
Much for the same reason they push all of their other ideas and opinions, they are retarded and stupid and completely disconnected from reality.

Something I've always wondered. I'm not an American. Whenever I read of relationships etc., Americans always say that they're in therapy or the first advice is to get therapy. Do all Americans really talk to a therapist? Is that an actual thing there? Despite all the burger therapy attendance I've yet to hear a single story that it actually helped anyone.

>>81557135
Almost no americans go to therapy

>>81557218
wrong. CDC:
>In 2019, 19.2% of adults had received any mental health treatment in the past 12 months, including 15.8% who had taken prescription medication for their mental health and 9.5% who received counseling or therapy from a mental health professional.

>>81557135
Maybe it's just LA/SF/NY rich people? I was just watching a video by some famous youtuber out of LA. He's pretty well off, looks kind of chadlike, seems to have a normal life with normal hobbies, has enough subscribers that he could probably get a harem of 18 year olds... but goes to therapy anyway??

>>81557306
i'm in a semi-rural southern county with median wage ~40k annual and maybe 1/4 of my office of 40 people are currently in therapy. this is only the people that have mentioned it. i am a failed would-be shrink myself, never going to grad school. but i think it generally does more harm than good lol

>>81557331
Ehh? I thought you guys had expensive healthcare.

>>81557408
the company-provided insurance is quite good- i just used it to get rid of cancer lol. healthcare is actually quite cheap if you're poor enough to have obongocare, or lucky enough that you have good insurance through your job that doesn't suck shit. not therapy, but there's also the option of just not paying your hospital bills if you have to go to the ER. lotta people do that!

>>81558000
Congrats on not dying to cancer, and also trips.

>>81553008 (OP)
therapy degree is a Good Person Certificate so now there are all these women that need jobs/customers, and if you dont Buy Product you're a bad person that refuses to work on themselves. They even say men who don't buy therapy shouldn't be eligible for having a girlfriend, because its a "red flag"
Kind of like how a company needs to buy diversity consulting services from the SJW mafia

>>81553008 (OP)
Its their nice way of telling you to fuck off

>>81558187
>not going to therapy is a red flag
>but going to therapy is also a red flag
>no, you will not be told in advance what any particular woman thinks about it

>"why don't men open up about their feelings? why don't men go to therapy?"
>male talks about their experiences
>"women aren't here to do the unpaid emotional labor of being your therapist!"
its all just games where you're a rat in their maze. not all women are like this, but thats what mainstream culture is right now.

>>81553008 (OP)
It also doesnt work and justifies itself by saying youre doing better but still need it(and will always need it) so you keep shovelling wads of money into the therapists pockets