>16yo gets gangbanged by the entire football team of the same age? Hecking wholesome!
>16yo gets approached by 25yo who seeks marriage and building a family? HANG THAT PEDO!
When did you realize jews were right about goyim? They're fucking cattle.

>>81559439 (OP)
>She's experimenting, chud!
People nowadays prefer to be the town bicycle over having responsibility

>>81559439 (OP)
you are not 16
>inb4 but why!!!!!
a white man fucking a white girl isnt the same as a black man fucking a white girl.

>>81559519
Degenerates are all subhuman niggers, even if they're white

>>81559439 (OP)
The thread that broke the sharty
>>81559519
Thanks for proving op correct and confirming your niggercattle status

>>81559439 (OP)
They call them jail bait for a reason.

>>81559439 (OP)
So are you familiar with the concept of power imbalances?

>>81559586
would mymy say that?

>>81559729
>power imbalances?
dumbest faggot normie argument there is
A 5'1 high school dropout wagie woman does not want a 5'6 uneducated poorfag husband, she wants a 6'4 PhD CEO

>>81559870
The problem is that it's extremely easy to manipulate a child mentally and emotionally, coercing them into doing things that are really not in their best interest. Just because they're old enough to want to have sex out romantic relationships with adults doesn't mean they're old enough to be able to handle it. The significantly older one has too much leverage. Too much experience the young one doesn't have. Too much wisdom the young one hasn't yet developed. It's not an even or fair playing field.

>>81560022
>sex out romantic
sex or* romantic

well the difference is there's no age gap between a slut that's fucking the football team, but there is a huge age gap between a 16yr old and a 25yr old

>>81559439 (OP)
>>16yo gets gangbanged by the entire football team of the same age? Hecking wholesome!
I don't think ANYONE would reasonably call that "hecking wholesome" or anything like that. If anybody found out about that nobody would go to jail except maybe the girl's father for assaulting one of the football players but it would be a huge controversy. It would be The Thing that happened at your school. It wouldn't be totally acceptable by regular society.

>>81560022
>>81559729
>>81560035
An age gap doesn't make inherently predatory or else age gap relationships would all be illegal. If you're saying 16 is too young, then 18 is too young because they have virtually the same life experience and mental development. There is no serious argument that one can handle it and the other can't because this does not measure up with real life. The even playing field argument is even sillier because we also allow wealth gap relationships, height gap relationships, even most male/female relationships inherently have a power imbalance in terms of strength. You're post-hoc justifying an age of majority that was only added 50 something years ago even though the age of consent is lower in most of the world and plenty of relationships with age gaps at that age have gone off without a hitch.

It's like a parent trying to explain to a small child why the world is the way that it is, and it's a unsatisfactory non-answer. That's all this is. It's a game.

>>81560082
>then 18 is too young because they have virtually the same life experience and mental development.
I mean. Yeah. That's why 18 and 25 would be generally frowned upon even though not technically illegal.
>The even playing field argument is even sillier because we also allow wealth gap relationships,
Those are generally frowned upon as well. One of the biggest #metoo strains of discourse was the power imbalances between rich executives and less powerful women working in the entertainment industry and how the executives were able to leverage their power over their employees/coworkers/victims and make their lives a living hell. Even sugar daddy / sugar baby dynamics are kind of taboo for this reason. Feminists haven't been whining about their husbands having control over all the money throughout human history for just no reason.
>height gap relationships,
???
Not seeing how height is all that relevant in the context of power.
>even most male/female relationships inherently have a power imbalance in terms of strength.
Yeah because that's an immutable and unavoidable factor of sexual dimorphism. All relationships are going to be slightly uneven to SOME degree, but some factors are more important than others. A 50 year old man "dating" an 8 year old girl, obviously problematic. Things like physical strength aren't quite as important, especially if the party with more strength doesn't abuse that strength at all.

>>81560159
>I mean. Yeah. That's why 18 and 25 would be generally frowned upon even though not technically illegal.
18/25 is fine. You're underestimating 18 year olds and OVERestimating 25 year olds in terms of maturity.

Rest of your posts denotes you are brainwashed by metoo rhetoric.

>>81560082
>You're post-hoc justifying an age of majority that was only added 50 something years ago
For good reason.
>even though the age of consent is lower in most of the world
You mean different cultures have diffident rules and norms for different reasons? What a revelation.
>and plenty of relationships with age gaps at that age have gone off without a hitch.
It's not that all age gap relationships are inherently and categorically abusive.

>>81560172
>18/25 is fine. You're underestimating 18 year olds and OVERestimating 25 year olds in terms of maturity.
A lot of people would disagree. It's a pretty contentious gap.
>Rest of your posts denotes you are brainwashed by metoo rhetoric.
I'm not even arguing in favor of or against the #metoo movement or anything like that. I'm just using it as an example. The mere mention of it without reflexively spitting on it doesn't denote any kind of brainwashing.

>>81560203
A lot of people would disagree with 18/22 being an okay gap. Doesn't mean they aren't wrong. 18/25 is not predatory at all.

>>81560185
>For good reason.
It wasn't raised, it was lowered. If it was 21 or 25 or 30 (all have been before), would you argue for that?

>>81560082
>even though the age of consent is lower in most of the world
not necessarily true. most of the developed world has an age of consent on par with the us but with a tiered system that takes age gaps into account. the lowest possible aoc in japan is 13, for example, but that doesn't mean anyone over the age of say 20 could just freely fuck a 13 year old with no legal issues

>>81560238
No, it's just 14-16 flat in most of the world if you're not a teacher. Whoever told you it was 16 until you turn 18/19 or whatever was misinformed.

>>81560212
>Doesn't mean they aren't wrong.
What makes them right or wrong? Your opinion?

>>81560022
I've had a woman 20 years younger interested in me, and honestly, the amount of life experience and responsibility she had was pretty impressive. She had a pretty rough life and pulled through. Age doesn't tell the whole story, a 25 y/o and a 45 y/o can be on an equal footing.

>>81560250
it's 16 in most us states too. 18 for pornography on a federal level. on par with the rest of the world.

>>81560253
That wasn't the argument. It's nice that you had that experience but it's also just your experience. People don't just develop moral aversions to large age gaps for no particular reason. Age and maturity are fairly relevant factors in these types of relationships, and the two are correlated.

>>81560252
We're getting kinda meta. It all comes down to opinion, doesn't it?

>>81560292
Do you really think the effeminate losers on this board couldn't easily be manipulated by a high school girl? You need to leave the house more.

>>81560342
I guess it does, but it's not quite as individualistic as something like favorite colors or pizza toppings since the topic at hand is inherently about societal conduct. The reason we've landed where we have regarding the age of consent is because that's how most of society seems to feel it should be. You happen to have a dissenting opinion in the minority, unfortunately.

>>81560363
Sure, anybody's capable of being manipulated by anyone at any age, but again, children are generally considered especially vulnerable because of just how disproportionately easy it is to manipulate them. After a certain threshold, your wellbeing is your responsibility, but children haven't really crossed that threshold.

>>81560367
>>81560384
I'm of the opinion that teens are overly infantilized and that the further the age goes up that one is a child, it starts affecting older and older ages.

A lot of people have issues with 16/19 but that age gap is one I'm not gonna budge on because most people can hardly tell people of those two ages apart behavior/appearance-wise. And I have known of many positive examples.

>>81560397
I think you're severely overestimating the ability of teenagers to make responsible choices and govern themselves with any legitimately meaningful sense of wisdom. They're not quite children and don't need to be monitored and safeguarded quite as much as children do, but they're not fully adults either and people have recognized that on a collective scale.

>>81560455
Studies have been conducted and they concur teenagers can make responsible choices/have adult-level executive functioning. Again your argument can extend to 18/people in their twenties. I think you are severely underestimating teenagers and I think the world would be better off if they had more rights/autonomy. Not saying this from an age gap perspective but from a capacity standpoint. "The immature teen brain" is a pseudoscience.

>>81560467
What studies are you referring to?

>>81560495
Studies done measuring cognitive/mental capacity/executive functioning. "The brain matures at 25" was debunked, you know.

https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html

>>81560499
I'm quite aware of that, I never claimed there's any point where the brain is officially "done" developing. The human psyche is in a state of constant development, change and growth unless dementia sets in. I and most people are worried about the threshold at which point consent becomes valid.
The rhetoric regarding the point at which the brain "sets in" is debunked but it is also pretty widely acknowledged that people under the age of 18 lack certain cognitive abilities associated with the capacity for meaningful and informed consent, particularly in regard to impulsiveness, emotional restraint and susceptibility to social pressure.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24143382_How_Young_Is_Too_Young_Comparative_Perspectives_on_Adolescent_Sexual_Marital_and_Reproductive_Transitions
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29699455/

>>81560531
>people under the age of 18 lack certain cognitive abilities
people under the age of 18 tend to* lack, I mean

>>81559439 (OP)
god i wanna have sex with a qt teen white girl

>>81560467
People are very, VERY quick to remove agency in age-gap scenarios... but only on the woman's end.

And then we get into greyer areas, as later mentioned, with "impulsiveness" or "emotional restraint" or "social pressure" which people will use to excuse the removal of agency.

That's not to say teens don't clearly have these issues, but they don't end at adulthood; and they also don't mean someone cannot still act of their own accord. It's most often projected on them when it comes to this "issue".

>>81560540
>>81560531
I'll look at your study. I will say your own study says 15-17 can be mature, which supports my argument that it isn't necessarily set in stone at 18. I personally think a lot of them use whatever is convenient to social/lobbyist interests at the time. If they want it to be 16, they'll reason why it should be 16. If they want it to be 21, they'll reason good judgement isn't possible until 21 (APA actually used this to cite an example to raise the death penalty so it's not unheard of)

>>81560571
>I will say your own study says 15-17 can be mature
Can be, yes. But not with any particular measure of certainty. The trend is that those under 18 are typically quite bad at decision making, such supports my point. There's no real reliable way to know that sex with an adult wouldn't harm a minor in significant ways, even if that harm is delayed.

>>81559439 (OP)
Neither is wholesome?

>>81560586
Goddamn autocorrect is really fucking me up today.

>>81559439 (OP)
The thing is most pedophiles don't want a wholesome, loving marriage with kids. They just want sex and more often than likely they abuse their advantage over the child. What happens when that child gets old? When they start getting taller or developing or having their own opinions and not opinions that can be easily shaped by you?

>>81560586
So I've read through both papers and it seems sorta inconclusive.

>>81559439 (OP)
dude these hysterical normies will try to destroy your life if you're 18/19 and try to date a 16/17 year old. for fucks sakes those two could literally be in the same school
I think he's annoying as fuck but the YouTuber callmecarson had his entire career destroyed because he was 19 and sent some cringe sexual messages to a 17 yo

>>81559439 (OP)
Christcucks are the ones who excuse horny teen behavior the most and practically encourage it while pretending they don't like it. Of course, they got that from jews whose cultural slop they slurp down without question.

Sportsballers are gods to christcucks.
Sportsballers are financial assets to kikes.

>>81560073
>ut it would be a huge controversy.
No it wouldn't. When I was a teen girls were bragging about it and then going to church where their parents would just deny it if they heard about it because their daughter is a good christian.

>>81559439 (OP)
a girl is trying to ruin my friend's reputation and cancel him because he made a sexual joke aimed at her direction when she was 17 (he didn't know her age or her in general he just said some shit like "I'm gonna touch you lol"). she's 19 and literally fucking does onlyfans cosplay content and her instagram comments are full of pajeets saying 100x worse than what my friend said. what the fuck happened in the 2 years between

I was 18 in 2005/2006 and I don't think it would have felt predatory for a 25 year old woman to date me. Though I wouldn't have been willing to go out with an 18 year old when I was 25 because that actually would feel weird.

>>81559586
the sharty has the same opinions on fictional character ages as 14 year old nonbinary girls lmao
>HANG that guy the fictional pixels are literally 17!!

>>81561424
I'm almost 24 and still willing to date 17/18 year olds.

>>81561424
>weird
that's completely subjective. if that's not for you that's fine but stop trying to tell other people what they can't do

>>81561410
I had a similar situation in college. Girl I fell for was young, 18 when I was 21 and still in HS (which was next door to our college where she'd hang out with my boss and my friends)... I was constantly being told she's too young for me but her BF was literally 6 months younger than me and was, tall, rich and handsome with a semi-famous father who was a politician at the time.

Wasn't too young for him though. Huh. Just too young for me, being broke and facially deformed.

The girl turned out to be an angel too. She really grew up into someone special I wish was in my life more.

>>81561380
my chad friend basically confirmed all the "christian school is horny af" when he told me that he fucked tons of girls at his catholic school. what do you know, telling teens NOT to do something gets them to want to do it harder?

>"You're 26 and she's 19? Buddy that's WEIRD!"
>thinks literal trannies aren't weird

>>81560253
>I've had a woman 20 years younger interested in me [...] 25 y/o and a 45 y/o
Lucky anon. Did it go anywhere?

>>81561448
I'm not; quite the opposite. I find alternate opinions here interesting. I know that my feelings here aren't really my own, but that I'm just being a little brainwashed since the world talks badly about age gap relationships so constantly. If I read about a married couple starting dating at 25 and 18, I'd see that as a charming and cute/romantic age gap. I also like the 29/19 age gap in Higehiro.

>>81561513
>>81561487
It's literally exactly what it is. Conformism and brainwashing. They're not "cognitively too young". If you unconsciously met a cute 16/17/18/19 year old and you were 8-10 years older, you're not always going to know their exact age right away and subconsciously you are going to enjoy being around them and will feel attracted to them. This anti-age gap thing is all paranoia.

>>81561487
>you're a sick fuck pedo if you like anime girls
>please ignore those kids twerking at that pride parade bigot

>>81561553
The thing about anime girls got really old years ago. They all look the same anyway whether they're 14 or 20 or 30, hot big-tittied cartoon characters are hot. (There is a big-boobed 9 year old in Hinako Note, though, which is funny but too weird to find attractive. Have to draw a line somewhere)

>>81561539
19 is full-on adult and anyone minding an age gap relationship involving a 19 year old is silly. 16/25... eh, I can't really think of negative consequences resulting from that in a non-abusive relationship. That probably is cultural and something that we developed an aversion to because of suggestibility.

>>81561487
there's a lot of sick fucks in this thread that think dating 22 year old CHILDREN is appropriate. don't they know your brain doesn't develop until 25? for fucks sakes, you're literally grooming that 24 year old poor little girl!

Also looking at this study (what age is too young) and the textbook it points to on prefrontal lobe to development doesn't really have any strong studies on the brain from ages 12-18. It just kinda asserts that it's just mature by 18 "because it just is". The thing they're basing this all on is the work of Piaget and even he concluded that changes beyond the age of 11/12 mentally were pretty small. It's a post-hoc justification for why the age of adulthood is 18. If they want it to be 30, they'll find a way to justify that via a sciencey sounding explanation.

>12-14 is early adolesence for girls, 13-15 is early adolesence for boys. Brain is still developing
Meanwhile I had a beard before I was 15 and most girls are DONE with puberty by 14/15. Early adolescence biologically is more like 9-12 maybe. The ranges are always off in these kinds of things because of a desire to prolong childhood in the population.

16yo gets gangbanged by the entire football team of the same age? Hecking wholesome!
>

16yo gets approached by 25yo who seeks marriage and building a family? HANG THAT PEDO!

>>81561630
There are definitely qualitative changes to intelligence beyond 11. There are limitations in basic reasoning ability and comprehension at 11 and 12, it's not just a matter of knowledge.

>>81561427
There's a surprising amount of women on the sharty.

>>81561630
>If they want it to be 30, they'll find a way to justify that via a sciencey sounding explanation.
they're already trying to push that with the "the brain doesn't develop until 25" shit but you're still a sick fuck if you're like 24 and date an 18-19 year old, most notably that guy that got publicly assaulted by like 20 people back in January because he met up with an 18 year old on a daye

>>81559586
KEEEEEEKKKKKKK ZELLIGPEDOS WHATS THIS?

>>81561659
Not really. You can get wiser/more knowledgeable, but you are not biologically less capable of comprehending something at those ages. That's where this debate gets a little absurd. A lot of these dumb studies parrot the "prefrontal cortex" not developed enough study as if there is some area in the brain waiting to be opened up but in reality the parts are already there and 'developed', they just myelinate throughout your life which strengthens some connections but also equals a little less plasticity. Gray matter build-up peaks around the age of 11/12 I believe and then continously myelinates. White matter peaks around the age of 30 (or 45-47 in some areas)

>>16yo gets gangbanged by the entire football team of the same age? Hecking wholesome!
>>16yo gets approached by 25yo who seeks marriage and building a family? HANG THAT PEDO!
>When did you realize jews were right about goyim? They're fucking cattle.

Poop and niggers dying 'cord woke up

>>>81559439 (OP) (OP) #
The thread that broke the sharty
>>>81559519 #
Thanks for proving op correct and confirming your niggercattle status

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>>81559586
>>81560082
>>81561616
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>>81561743
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>>81561747
remember to sage the thread nusoi

>>81561689
>You can get wiser/more knowledgeable, but you are not biologically less capable of comprehending something at those ages.
By 12, your ability to understand things you read or hear from others is probably matured. Your critical thinking skills and ability to create your own original insights certainly hasn't reached its max.

>>81561752
>save
me is esl

>>81561761
It feels like we are arguing on fluid intelligence vs crystallized intelligence. In that case you are right, I'm talking moreso fluid intelligence.

>>81559439 (OP)
I'm 28 and dating an 18 year old. Would I go younger if I could? Yes, I just don't know how id find them/get access to cunny

Enjoy some dead nigger baby nigger pedophile jartycucks

>>81561776
Critical thinking is fluid intelligence. Wisdom and insight are fluid intelligence. You just don't reach peak intelligence by 12. 15 at earliest.

>Enjoy some dead n1gger baby nigger pedophile jartycucks

>>81559729
>are you familiar with the concept of power imbalances?
No

>>81559729
Women ALWAYS have more power in a relationship than any man. A35 year old 6'6 multimillionaire male model has a lower overall societal value than some random in shape 16 year old woman, she is ALWAYS more desirable for her youth and womb.

>>81561346
Inconclusive outcome seems like a terrible basis for losing or lowering the age of consent. "This may or may not end up scarring a bunch of kids for life idk, let's try it and see what happens."

>pedos seething itt

>>81562068
you forgot that she literally has the power to completely end that man's life with a rape/grooming allegation
>>81561783
it's just not worth potentially having a bunch of normies that think 17 year olds are literally children but 18 year olds are old enough to spread their hole on onlyfans trying to come after you, plus even if she's above the age of consent there's still some other legal stuff that could happen to you

What if all humans are ugly and i like 2d. No humans look even remotely like any anime girl. This is why i learned to draw

>>81561660
You mean, the babbies are transitioning. Yes we know what they are, sjw wannabes sat in their programmer socks.

>>81562101
You could also argue it's a terrible basis for raising it by that logic. The age of consent is 14-16 generally everywhere. And as you see by age gap hysteria the "trauma" doesn't go away after 18 or even for pretty small age gaps (5 years or less). It only gets raised due to social pressure, not hard science or research.

>>81562231
>You could also argue it's a terrible basis for raising it by that logic.
Well, not really, because the danger lies in younger ages and not older. But wouldn't advocate for raising the age of consent anyway.

>>81559439 (OP)
>i get gangbanged
>i get called a fag

the jews were right, bros...

>>81560679
It's funny because you can replace pedo with men and it'll still be true.

>>81560022
Even granting your premises, it doesn't work as an argument against age gap relationships. These same premises would argue against parenting, which is also an age gap relationship.

>>81560159
>especially if the party with more strength doesn't abuse that strength at all.
You're dismantling your own argument.

>>81562502
That's a bit of a pedantic argument to be honest. I think it should be obvious that when I mention "age gap relationships," I'm not referring to ALL relationships, platonic or otherwise. I'm referring specifically to those of a sexual and/or romantic relationship between a child and an adult, and I thought that was obvious. Sorry if it wasn't.
What I know is less obvious is that I was also not necessarily referring to ALL age gap relationships universally either. 30 and 50 is fine, for example, even though there's a difference of two decades between them. My primary concern is the ways in which level-headed adults may take advantage of people who are in their most crucial developmental stages and potentially hurt them in profound ways during that process.
I think the thing that makes the relationship between a parent and their child somewhat incomparable to that of a sexual or romantic relationship between a minor and an adult is the fact that (good) parenting is necessary for the health, wellbeing and development of the child. The parent bears a responsibility to care for their offspring in a way that benefits them, to protect them from harm. There are risks unique to sexual/romantic relationships that children aren't quite mentally prepared to handle, at least not with adults. A sexual relationship with a child in potentially harmful to the child in ways that are far less controllable than simply not being an abusive parent would be. For that reason, parenthood isn't inherently abusive, although it certainly could be. I'd never argue that there's no such thing as abusive parents.
The circumstances just aren't the same.

>>81562507
I was talking exclusively about physical strength here. The mere presence of that strength is meaningless if it isn't abused in any tangible way. The problem with a child having a sexual or romantic relationship with an adult is the child's inability to meaningfully consent to that dynamic; whether or not the adult actively works to inflict abuse is irrelevant in this context. The relationship itself is inherently abusive due to the state of one of its members.

>>81562728
Rereading this is atrocious. I'm just gonna go ahead and correct/clarify some stuff. Forgive me, it's 3 AM where I am now and I'm tired.

>I'm referring specifically to those of a sexual and/or romantic relationship between a child and an adult, and I thought that was obvious.
To restructure this sentence to make it make more sense,
>I'm referring specifically to relationships of a sexual and/or romantic nature between a child and an adult, and I thought that was obvious.

Also,
>My primary concern is the ways in which level-headed adults may take advantage of people who are in their most crucial developmental stages and potentially hurt them in profound ways during that process.
I'd like to stress that this isn't always intentional. Abuse isn't always overtly malicious. That's kind of the problem, actually. I know that parental abuse isn't always intentional either but it is easier to take precautions to avoid traumatizing your child through putting care into your parenting than it is to have sex with a minor without traumatizing them. The latter is far less controllable. But I already said that.

>>81562728
>I think it should be obvious that when I mention "age gap relationships," I'm not referring to ALL relationships
The mentoring and leadership present in a platonic age-gap relationship can (and should) be present in a romantic one. What is your problem with sex, specifically?
>30 and 50 is fine, for example, even though there's a difference of two decades between them. My primary concern is the ways in which level-headed adults may take advantage of people who are in their most crucial developmental stages and potentially hurt them in profound ways during that process.
Why would an older adult be more likely to do this than a younger adult?
>There are risks unique to sexual/romantic relationships
Agreed, and in OPs example, I'd argue promiscuity with younger partners is far, far riskier than monogamy with a stable older partner. How would you even disagree with this? STI, unwanted pregnancy, potential for sexual abuse; all of these scale with increasing no. of partners, and all decrease with age.

Let me clue you in on something
Feminists have lost their virginities when they were 15 to a guy that was like 23. Guess what. They are still friend with that guy. And they still help him get minors.

What these women want is for you to die alone or a cuck. They want to promote degenerate sexuality to younger and younger girls, with "muh liberation". They want all women to lose their virginities before they turn 14. They also want to judge you as a pedo if you like any girl under the age of 25 (new age of consent). If you are a male who didn't win the genetic lottery they want to make sure you only get scraps. If you didnt bang someone when you were 16, they want you to have no hope. Your future is only being a cuck

>>81562844
>The mentoring and leadership present in a platonic age-gap relationship can (and should) be present in a romantic one.
This...is going to open up a huge branch of the conversation I don't have enough energy for right now. If this thread is still active when I wake up I'll continue constructing responses then. Have a nice (day? night?) anon.

>>81559729
>16 year old 9/10 foot ball chad from a rich 1% upper class family has less power than a 25 year old virgin living paycheck to paycheck

>>81559439 (OP)
look I'm not gonna say ALL age gap relationships are like this, but usually when a guy goes after much younger women it's because he's a fucking manchild that can't get women his own age cause they can see through his bullshit, I've seen both sides, dating manchildren as a younger girl and seeing my own manchildren friends go after younger girls cause nobody wants their broke ass. It's fucking sad anons, please don't intentionally go for women way younger than you

>>81560159
>power imbalances
A lot of women deliberately seek out power imbalances to benefit themselves. Funny how we never talked about that

>>81562502
Are you fucking retarded? There's clearly going to be different interests when raising a kid and having a gf

>>81562971
I never implied women can't be abusers?

>>81562884
>Feminists have lost their virginities when they were 15 to a guy that was like 23

Yeah and that was probably an abuse of power by the older guy, hence the reason they now look down upon men going after younger women, cause they've had to suffer it firsthand

>What these women want is for you to die alone or a cuck

I just want you to acknowledge women's suffering by the hands of men and become a better person anon, I love you mwah

>>81562958
What's bad about guys looking for a girl with a similar level of experience?

>>81563041
You missed the part where I said they help that same pedo get other minors. They dont care. They dont have values.

>>81562929
unironically yes if they're in a relationship

>>81563051
Honestly for the most part this just kinda sounds like a made-up narrative in your head sorry anon. Not saying it's impossible but still _very_ unlikely. Also at that point it would still be by the influence of men that they'd do that, not because they're soulless husks without morals like you're making it out to be.

>>81563051
>the overwhelming majority of testimony from women is how they were naive when they were young and got used by an older guy and now want to stop the current young girls from making their mistake
>actually here's a made up scenario in my mind

>>81559729
every single relationship in the west is one where the woman has more power due to no fault divorce and access to legal/social accusations against the man

>>81563069
>>81563081
Ghislaine Maxwell exists.

>>81563090
you missed the "very unlikely" part. most women aren't helping their drug dealer from high school get pussy 10 years later or something like that

>>81563090
I knew someone was gonna mention her. So fucking what, I already said it was possible, but it's not the majority at ALL, it's rare cases and even in those you can still link it back to men being the ones who are really at fault

>>81562502
you're fucking retarded since the parent/child relationship isn't a romantic relationship

>>81560159
>That's why 18 and 25 would be generally frowned upon even though not technically illegal.
nobody in real life gives a shit. twitter feminists aren't a representation of most the general public

>>81563069
>It would be thanksnto the influence of men

Woman does bad thing. Men to blame.

>>81563050
Don't you see how that's fucking weird? Nobody loves me in my 30s so I guess I'll go for a 16 year old

>>81563116
Doesn't mean she's not to blame but it's important to be critical of the reasoning behind it, heavy blaming upon the women who do sexist acts is often a scapegoat for not even looking at the men who are responsible for setting up the system in the first place

>>81563081
>>81563061
We know the truth about women now, no matter how much you keep lying.
We all know you all recently banged a pedo who you knew was also banging minors. But he was chad, so who cares. We know your values end with a few milimeters of bone

>>81563131
I only have sex with pure virgin boys

>>81563130
Muh patriarchy was set up by both men and women. And it has always affected both men and women.
But go on, keep on refusing to take any sort of accountability

>>81563143
A man drew this comic. Women hate virgins, they hate anythig that isn't degenerate or demonic

>>81563144
>Muh patriarchy was set up by both men and women

It wouldn't change that it's primarily made to benefit men

>>81559439 (OP)
pedo thread. I hope a federal authority is watching every single neckbeard who posted in here. THE AGE OF CONSENT IS 18

>>81563151
I'm sorry you've only met virgin-hating women anon, I'll deflower you my sweet virgin boy

>>81563158
No. It primarily put men in positions of political power. And only a few men, at that. It wasnt made to "benefit men".
And even if it was made to "benefit men"; it doesnt mean it benefits men in all cases today. Systems morph. Deal with it.

I swear to god. I think critical theory was made as an IQ test. In that any leftist who believes in simplistic dichotomic "power/powerless" narratives shows he is a retard

>>81563168
Am I talking to someone born with a penis? Have you ever touched another penis?
If any of those answers is yes, then no thank you

>>81563163
Oh I agree with the age of consent. I just think femoids dont care about protecting minors. They fuck pedos if they're Chad.

>>81563216
they don't care. they only go against the pedos when they hit the wall and are basically just trying to pull the ladder out from under themselves now that the pedo isn't interested in them anymore

I don't care, I wasn't having sex at 16 and it is degeneracy anyway. I'm not going to die on a hill for you when the n*rmies come to burn you alive, neither do I want my daughter meeting weirdo 25 year olds who hang around outside school gates if I get a tradwife (18+) and raise a family, I have other priorities.

OP is probably some kind of psyop to make us look bad. Any movement that embraces pedophilia is shooting itself in the foot. You are broken, just kill yourselves like the trannies.

>>81563273
No anon, you're missing the point.
My point is that even post wall roasties reward pedo-chads with sex. If they meet a hot guy and learn he just went out of prison from diddling kids. Guess what. They'll still bang him

>>81563300
Based
This comment was muted because not original

>>81561410
>>81561465
You first worlders need to remember tradition of slapping whores and retards in the face

I want a virgin. If a 15 yo is the only way to get it so I'll go for it. It's legal anyway
Not my fault that women are whores and even in highschool most of them are used. The ideal would be a woman in her early 20s but good luck finding one that isn't used
The world isn't fair so you can't expect me to play fair

>>81563118
>if no one already loves you you don't deserve love
Retarded protestant logic

>>81560022
>>81559729
You are wasting your breath on a bunch of wannabe-rapists.

>>81563397
"Oh YEAH? You're saying I can't fuck 16 year olds cause it's creepy to take advantage of people much younger than me that will easily fall into my manipulation? I know the lies your kind make up, you wretched FEMOID, you just want me to die alone!!! You think I don't deserve love right?!"

>>81563495
>it's creepy to take advantage of people much younger than me
Women take advantage of lonely men all the time, be it through pornography, divorce and etc. yet I doubt you think it should be a crime

>>81563090
This is the same type of incel that writes "not all men" and claims the dozens of incel and alt-right mass shooters are "just coincidences" btw.

>>81563512
Non sequitur. What does an objectively evil thing like trafficking minors to be sexually abused have to do with a just crusade against normies by the people they have broken down through years of bullying? Apples to oranges.

>>81563168
>>81563143
I AM DOWNRIGHT SICK OF THESE STEREOTYPES, I AM A VIRGIN AND MY SPIRIT IS MADE ALMOST PURELY OF SEXUAL AGGRESSION AND TESTOSTERONE AND I AM LIABLE TO EAT WOMEN IF LEFT UNATTENDED.

Why do goyim fall for such silly bait

>>81563510
>through pornography

only recently through onlyfans have so many women actually profited on their own without having some pimp or producer making money off them, also porn is made by sick walking dildo moids

>divorce

women wouldn't have the privileges they have in divorce cases nowadays if it weren't for the system that makes them be seen as victims

>>81563495
>You think I don't deserve love right?!
Unironically yes, that's why women don't sleep with unattractive men

>>81563558
women sleep with unattractive men ALL THE TIME, you'd know if you actually went outside and interacted with women

>>81563571
True take sssniperwolfs husband (or bf idk) for example he isn't a 10/10

>>81559729
Soo the literal fairy tale prince falling in love with the village beauty that is bullied by her stepmother and stepsisters?
The tall and handsome millionaire being heads over heals over some college chick literature major?
The literal supernatural vampire or werewolf being unresistably drawn to the normal highschool senior?
When have you last time read a story were the counterpart to our Female Lead
>the beautiful but otherwise average becky protagonist who's a barista at starbucks that normal women can project themselfes as,
is a Male lead who's just as average, the cashier from the 7-eleven next door that every normal man can imagine themselfes as?

Females LOVE the power imbalances, literally every romance story ever is fucking BUILD on power imbalances.
So don't give me that shit.

>>81563606
fantasy and reality are different things

>>81563555
>if it weren't for the system that makes them be seen as victims
Even when reaping the benefits women still blame le patriarchy

>>81563495
Advantage in what exactly? Influence? Hell no, young girl posses more influence in society than ordinary male. Only because of her pussy. Money? Well, maybe, but many simp would donate womens just because they need and want find love.

>>81563628
yes because I don't want women to be beneffited by the patriarchy either, it makes sense because I'm not a piece of shit who'll endorse anything that benefits me at the cost of others' suffering unlike you piece of shit moids

>>81563635
this post sounds like it was written by a caveman

>>81560082
I do think there's a line between below 18 and above 18. Tho it might be different in the USA with the you can drive at 16, but only buy alcohol at 21 etc etc.
Here in germany being 18 means you're officially an adult with all the legal stuff implied, you don't have a legal guardian anymore, all legal contracts you sign are binding, you could get a job, rent an apartment, sign up for the military, get a bad bank loan that ruins your life, buy all the alcohol you want and destroy your brain, etc.
So literally and unironically
>she was 17years 11month and 29days old you sick fuck!
because thats the hard line, not because their brainstructure suddenly changes or anything, physiologically that single day changes absolutely nothing, but legally, after that single day they are now adults that can and must make their own desicions, including bad ones.

>>81561679
That's a gemerald (something cobson will never be)

>>81563555
>onlyfans
>women make their own money, no pimp or producer
Zoomers really are retarded

And boy, you'd sure be interested in critique of the gotha program

>>81563651
It was written by a poor eastern slav.

>>81563643
Troon, you living in capitalistic society.

>>81563619
so you agree that in reality millionaires shouldn't be allowed to date non-millionaires as their different financial capabilities would be too much of a power imbalance in the relationship.
Or that a highly socialite extrovert shouldn't date a shy introvert...
Or someone with genius level IQ shouldn't be dating midwits...
Or someone who has lots of relationship experience dating someone with little to no relationship experience...
Or...
Because if you think age is the only power imbalance that matters, I'm sorry to inform you, but you might be retarded and maybe should visit a doctor about that.

I do agree that 18 should be a hard-cut probably (>>81563659), but other than that, age basically doesn't fucking matter compared to other more pressing "power imbalance factors" that weight much more heavily.