Can you actually ever really love "your" girl knowing she gave her virginity to someone else?

>reduce her selfhood to a hymen
You can't love her if you can't see her as an equal human

>>81596170
point of building a good future with someone is the ability to move on from the past, and making the most out of the present with em,
too many dipshits demoralizing themselves with a insecure mentality, but they probably trying some wack shit to bait others into thinking the same or hoping there's someone more insecure than them, pathetic really

>>81596135 (OP)
As long as that man was black, yes!

>>81596135 (OP)
did you guys know women feel the same way too? but not like, our first fuck or whatever but our first love

i still remember my first love, despite it being over 15 years ago - and apparently some women are bitter about it

>>81596199
>move on from the past
So you admit it's a negative? Or it's an attribute you actually prefer your girl had?

>>81596135 (OP)
she didnt know me yet was she supposed to foretell my coming like a religious nut?
i wasnt a virgin and she doesnt have to be either.

>>81596297
Just like years of loneliness in your youth were a negative

>>81596325
OP here, this question assumes she did know you before the fact
>>81596346
So it is a negative right?

>>81596135 (OP)
no i cannot, my mate will be a white virgin

>>81596487
It doesn't matter. What matters is what you can do about it. Which is getting over it.
What's your alternative? You are clearly not having any luck finding a virgin girl, and it's likely to stay that way.

>>81596135 (OP)
I wouldnt want to do anything serious with non-virgin.

>>81596487
>So it's a negative right?
In the same sense that you not being a billionaire is a negative. It doesn't mean you can't find happiness with the cards life dealt you.

>>81596135 (OP)
No. Of course not. I choose to die alone, because all of them are worthless dirty slut whores.
>>81596170
you put such impressive levels of retardation on display in this very bred, that even a claim of being human is under dispute.
>equal
never, lmao. who the fuck do females think they are? ahahahahahahaha. delusional apes.

>>81596135 (OP)
No
If she isn't a virgin then all I can do is fuck her for fun, but never anything serious. If you put the ring on a prostitute's finger then don't complain when you get cucked, divorce raped and etc

>>81596170
Who are you to say what is love? Retards think they're the king of the truth. Also
>equal human
We aren't equal, if not there would be no need to call one male and the other female

>>81596548
and dying alone will be.

>>81596506
>What's your alternative?
Why are you retards so disingenuous?
First you guys say that it doesn't matter then you say you won't find it so you have to get over it
It's like everyone knows that a virgin is better but because most women are whores you've to accept it, which is a dumb thing to say. If all your job opportunities were diving in liquid shit then the better alternative isn't to accept it, but to not get any job at all or get qualifications and wait until a decent job opportunity shows up

>>81596572
>Retards think they're the king of the truth
That's just you, little virgin

>>81596599
>First you guys say that it doesn't matter then you say you won't find it so you have to get over it
The end result of both statements is the same. It doesn't matter if virgin pussy is better or not. This is completely beyond the point. If you could have it, you would obviously choose it. But since you can't, what should you do? That is the pertinent question.

>>81596599
Everyone knows being rich is better. Doesn't stop the poor from pursuing their happiness, though.
It's the same logic

>>81596645
>It doesn't matter if virgin pussy is better or not.
It doesn't to you, which is why you must commit sudoku right nao.
>But since you can't, what should you do?
Ensure that the next generations learn the lesson and stay virgins until they decide to have a child together and stay together to raise that child.

>>81596605
I'm not little, I'm 6'1
And virgin isn't an insult. I'm not a disgusting being like you whores, degenerates and faggots

>>81596599
>accepting reality is bad
What is your alternative
>Compares being with not virgin women with diving in liquid shit
There is something wrong with your mind, I bet a few therapy sessions we could figure out what is that you're so disgusted by (pro tip: I think it's yourself)

>>81596657
>happiness
is not a goal. first of all. you have to be a complete fukken imbecile to perceive happiness as one of the a life goals. Might as well go and buy a bridge now.
Secondly, it's the completely opposite. Working your way out of poverty is in no way similiar to being retarded and throw your entire life and all of the resources in it at some piece of rotten aids ridden piss covered piece of worthless meat.
Your entire premise is wrong, because you're braindead subhuman. Sex is not the most thing in the world. Babies aren't needed in 2025 in order for humanity to survive. Therefore a female is factually worthless in 2025. Good luck being used as onahole and dying alone of anal cancer you filthy degenerate.

>>81596668
>Feels the need to prove his own ego anonymously
Poor little guy... So much shame and hatred in such a small frame

>>81596679
>What is your alternative
he did accept the reality, you stone licking halfwit, he just chose a different course of action. which is great.
>There is something wrong with your mind
projecting much
>you're so disgusted by
being disgusted by liquid shit is perfectly reasonable, unless you're a degenerate. Believe it or not, it isn't his fault that females are liquid shit in 2025.

>>81596679
>>Compares being with not virgin women with diving in liquid shit
In fact I'd rather dive in liquid shit
>therapy
You're one of those, huh

>>81596662
>It doesn't to you
It shouldn't matter to you either. This belief is not doing you any good.
>Ensure that the next generation stay virgin
You mean police the sexuality of others? How horrifying. Very impractical too. Sounds like a lifetime of frustration

>>81596682
>happiness
>is not a goal
Which is probably why you're so miserable. Poor thing.
>You have to be an imbecile to pursue happiness
Yeah, it's much better to seethe about women not being virgins in the incel board. That's the good shit right there. Who cares about happiness when you can be perpetually angry online?

There's no point in arguing with degenerates, they already are lost, principally if it's a woman. They just lash at anything good since they choose the bad route
Just do what you want, if you want to break up with a woman because she isn't a virgin you have all the right to do so

>>81596716
Happiness not being your goal doesn't mean you aren't happy. Not that a hedonist would understand that since you guys are egoistic beyond everything

>>81596682
>Sex is not the most thing in the world
funny how you say that, you seem to put so much importance on a girl's first time
Seems like to you, sex is important if it's not with you, lol

>>81596727
You don't sound very happy though. are you?

>>81596135 (OP)
It's funny how people mock step fathers, principally when the children is of another skin color, yet fucking an used woman is the exact same thing
You're just eating the trash of another man

>>81596743
So, being happy means you're a yes man that agrees with anything? Me disagreeing with you means I'm not happy?
How self centered. No wonder you're a hedonist

>>81596682
>some piece of rotten aids ridden piss covered piece of worthless meat.
>you're braindead subhuman
>used as onahole and dying alone of anal cancer you filthy degenerate
You have got some issues, boy. You shouldn't be so angry, I barely know what you're lashing out at. It's a bad look for a teenager

>>81596753
I think you're just reducing women to an object that loses value when used

>>81596762
So that's a no?
You're far too angry to be calling yourself happy. You lack the serenity that comes with happiness.

>>81596703
>It shouldn't matter
You're not one to dictate anything to anybody. You're not an authority on anything, because nobody has appointed you. Know why? Because you're completely fucking incompetent. Tis true that you could climb with power and money and those games and backstabby men-bitch, but it means, that you're corrupted, because the structure you used power, money, etc, in, instead of competence is corrupt. So you're not worthy of listening to in the first place.
And if you're a female, just by the off chance, know, that your kind hasn't achieved or invented anything and is incapable of doing so without males, and will never amount to anything on your own. The role of a female is to produce babies and to shut the fuck up.
>belief is not good.
Not doing the world any favors. This shit isn't about me, you spastic. In order to ensure the optimal cooperation to produce the utmost desirable circumstances for the survival of the human species, society must be stripped of detrimental bullshit right fukken NAO: all the social programs, and empty privileges should be removed, divorce outlawed. Single moms shouldn't exist. Females are no match for males and treating females as anything even remotely equal is an apocalyptic route. It won't be done soon enough, so enjoy, figuratively speaking, the next Sodom and Gomorrah. This is what millenial bitches and zoomer bitches will get automatically.
>You mean police the sexuality of others?
Just beat the shit out of misbehaving retards. Castrate males for rape, all that.
>How horrifying.
What are retards like you usually saying
>You're a good person and never do anything bad, do you? You don't have to fear, if you're a good person.
So this, but unironic and practical.
>Sounds like a lifetime of frustration
If you behave like an animal you will be treated like an animal and nothing more. Humans, and you think you are one, can force their mind to be above the matter and primitive dirty desires.

>>81596718
You certainly like to surround yourself with degenerates if you made a home out of this place. Almost like you're one

>>81596785
Everything loses value when used. Why women should be exempted from that?
Manwhores also lose value when used. Your point?

>>81596793
Happiness doesn't show up in only one way. See, you're pushing your worldview into others and think you're the king of the truth
Pathetic

>>81596698
>I'd rather dive in liquid shit
It would accurately reflect your state of mind
>You're one of those
An adult? Don't worry you'll be one soon

>>81596135 (OP)
I wouldnt like it obviously, most people dont, normies skirt the subject, if she had one nerdy ex boyfriend, like sure maybe i can deal with that, if she fucked chad then im dropping her like a sack of shit

>>81596809
>Everything loses value when used
Not people, though. Just objects. You wouldn't sell out your mom for half the price if she was gang raped, or so we hope.
You view women more as your property and less as individuals

>>81596808
>you made a home out of this place
You know you can use things without being part of it, right? I already watched many anime but I never interacted with the "otaku community", the same for gaming and many other things. Just because I hate whores doesn't mean I'm part of your little community

>>81596824
>if she fucked chad then im dropping
So insecure... It's like even if a girl chose you,you couldn't choose yourself over chad

>>81596834
I think you are part of this place alright, my dear.

>>81596843
Hey man everyone is allowed to have their own wants, girls have preferences for height, we can have preferences for virgins, simple

>>81596346
>Just like years of loneliness in your youth were a negative
You're entirely correct but I cannot relate to a promiscuous person. The difference is promiscuity is a choice that requires agency. Social isolation, suffering and loneliness is due to a lack of agency. These things are not the same

>>81596809
>Manwhores also lose value when used
Not really true. You completely idolize manwhores. You worship them. You gave them a name, "chad", and you cultivate his image like an idol

>>81596824
This is a psyop to make normies say "See, it's insecurity!"
I don't care if the guy that fucked her was Timmy with a micropenis or Chad with a 12 inches, she's a whore regardless

>>81596829
>Everything loses value when used
>Not people, though
Look at the employment market for 60+ adults. You are coping

>>81596853
True. It's just a silly preference specially if you can't afford them.

>>81596860
Pointing the truth doesn't mean it's worshipping. Even myself can be considered "chad" sometimes since girls already approached me saying that their friend liked me
Also, you don't need to be a manwhore to be chad. Chad means that women are attracted to you

>>81596873
And not everyone can get a 6 foot tall chad, but we are allowed to dream and hunt for it I guess, shitty world eh?

>>81596866
Look at the same employment market and how they value experience over inexperienced workers, rendering your point null

>>81596873
Wanting big breasted women is way silly yet many men have that preference. Almost as if everyone value different things

>>81596881
Of course you are. It's still bad to dwell on dreams so much you forsake reality.
This "perfection or nothing" mentality is very common with incels

>>81596895
If a man proclaimed he would rather be a celibate forever and die alone rather than dating a woman with small breasts, that would be the pinnacle of silliness

>>81596897
It cant be that bad, its not like they want a virgin Stacy, that shit is impossible, but like a virgin weird girl is in their realm

>>81596897
>perfection or nothing
You guys are retarded. Men can't have ONE standard and you say it's perfection. Virgin women aren't perfect, and that's okay

>>81596882
Age discrimination isn't imaginary.

>>81596716
gtfo with your shift into personalities and analysis. you're an 80 iq subhuman and your bullshit is not taken seriously by anybody.
>>81596735
>you seem to put so much importance on a girl's first time
yes. I don't want to have sex. If I have sex it has to be with a virgin, because, this way, I could be sure, that the baby is mine. That's the only thing that matters practically. If the baby is out of the picture, the the females has no value either. In fact, the female becomes in detriment and has to work very hard in other areas in order to justify the society spending any resources on her at all.
>>81596773
you're projecting. I'm writing out facts. Reality. As it is. But also, yeah, I hope you choke on your ad-hom, because I'm tired of you worthless wastes of resources existing. If you can't argue, then don't even fucking enter and argument, you faggot.
>>81596785
women are objects and do lose value when used and just over time. Pretty much like everything else in this universe. If they had any value to them to begin with...
>>81596843
> It's like even if a girl chose you
get it through your thick skill. Men choose. Always.
>females choose
is a myth and cope. We can all see how stupid females are and what kind of absolute shite choices they make. If females choose everything and females then initiate over 80% of the divorces, then these two stats alone indicate gross fucking incompetence at the task of choosing anything or anybody. I'm not letting accountability slide.
>but muh betabuxx uggo hubby with ed
Men choose to have mercy and pity on you. Mostly because men thought they're losers if they have no wife and no step nigger. Reality is the opposite, men are pathetic if they do settle for aids ridden holes like yourself.
Chad will never settle. At most you will be used as onahole by other Chad, but I will never choose any of you degenerate selfish subhumans. I don't need a drain on any of my resources.
TL;DR: Only I choose. Always have.

>>81596529
You're comparing a woman being a virgin to a man being a literal billionaire?

>>81596877
>Even myself can be considered "chad"
>seething about women being whores in the incel board

>>81596910
There are barely any girls in their realm, let alone a virgin one. They are entitled to a life of loneliness if so they choose

>>81596962
Replace billionaire with rich if you must. It's not the best case scenario but you can still have some fun

>>81596965
I mean, women are attracted to me, from what I know that's the biggest core part of being a "chad". Me "seething" about whores don't change that. You could say I've chad body and incel mind
Do you think everyone that complains about whores don't have options and is a basement dweller?

>>81596938
The comparison really doesn't do your argument any justice. Virgin (inexperienced) workers are discriminated against, while companies will prefer workers with more baggage. That only stops being true when that baggage comes with sexagesimal ages.
That's quite the opposite of what goes on in the sexual marketing according to incels like you, where younger virgins are always better than seasoned women.

>>81596979
>They are entitled to a life of loneliness if so they choose
Which is more honorable than having a whore wife. Imagine craving "love" so much that you can't handle loneliness and lower yourself to eat trash food

>>81596930
> ONE standard
You can have as many standards as you like. The question is, can you afford any of them?
Of all standards you could have, that's the one you picked... The one standard that makes every woman worthless to you after one night of sex

>>81597011
>women aren't objects
>use capitalist companies view that treat people like objects
???

>>81596135 (OP)
I'm not gonna go out of my way to hate on somebody taking what love they can find in this world, but at the same time I couldn't marry a nonvirgin personally. I think there's a very good reason that it was the standard in pretty much every society worth a damn ever, and we're certainly witnessing the results of abandoning it all and breaking the social contract. That being said, I'm not sure I even give a shit about having any sort of relationship anymore, too jaded and enjoy my solitude too much to care about being a family man or whatever.

>>81596979
>They are entitled to a life of loneliness if so they choose
One of the loneliest moments of my life was lying in bed with a girl I was seeing and for some reason she confessed her history of having "half night stands" in clubs and kicking the guys out afterwards. You don't understand anything.

>>81597019
>can you afford any of them
So, are you saying that virgin women are better since you need to be a more powerful men to get them?
So all that "doesn't matter" is bullshit

>>81596854
>I cannot relate to a promiscuous person
Why not? They're still a person like you. You speak as if their sexual experiences have made them an alien, inhuman beast. You still share your universal human experience with them in a thousand ways that are not sexual.
I feel that you're just being prejudiced and discriminatory against sex havers.
> loneliness lack agency
I disagree. I think you chose loneliness. It's not something beyond your control. As we can see right now, you are showing us just one of the reasons why you ended up alone, and it's by choice

>>81596135 (OP)
No. Just find hobbies and friends if you're lonely, compromising your standards just because it's what other people do won't do you any good
You'd just hate your girl and build a toxic family

>>81597019
>The one standard that makes every woman worthless to you after one night of sex
Newsflash, retard, if there is no baby making, no children production in the picture, then the female IS completely worthless.
Even if you were a virgin female, but we'd never have children, then you'd be worthless to me. Just like strangers are worthless to you too.
TL;DR: I told you at the start of the thread, that you're a completely fucking idiot, yet you not only claim to be on a level of a human, but want to be equal. HA! Ha. ha. Never.

>>81597024
Except that it was you who brought up companies to make a point. I'm merely showing you the flaws in your own analogy

>>81597025
The reason was paternity tests didn't exist, and the patriarchy ruled.
The results of abandoning it are more freedom for women and minorities who were once subjugated and oppressed, so those are good results

>>81597011
I'm sure some men love whores, you're welcome to chase them if you find their values so progressive and admirable. That's the experience they value, right? You guys can sit around and compare threesome notes and go to sex dungeons and be ethically polyamorous. So if that's what you want, why are you /here/ arguing with what you clearly seem to think are the dregs of humanity?

>>81597067
>women are only worthy as incubators
Sometimes I wonder if you are even heterosexual at all, you seem to hate woman on a fundamental level it would be better to just date men

>>81597095
You might cope and seethe and deny reality or mother nature or whatever the fuck you want to call it ALL you want. Facts are: genetic material is the ultimate value. Having the genetic material of other men in you equals to you being WORSE (valued less) than being an infertile virgin. And an infertile virgin is valued less than a fertile virgin. Simple as.
Now cope, seethe, dilate, masturbate, be degenerate, idgaf.

>>81597019
You know that's the meaning of standards, right? Every standard exclude a big chunk out of your dating pool to make it easier for you to find the one that you want
>I don't date black women
That's 15% of all women excluded

>>81596873
Every preference is silly because it's fucking personal
I don't understand people that wouldn't marry a woman just because she's black or some ethnicity other than white, but they're free to choose it

>>81596170
>yOu're REdUcinG hER tO a HYmEn

Wokescolds like you are the reason we can't have nice things. The problem is people actually listen to disingenuous people like you who twist everything.

I can do the same thing. "Your wife did everything for you. She is your best friend. She sacrificed a lot for you, too. Now, are you going to leave her just because she cheated on you five yeaea ago? Are you reducing her to a vagina?

Not liking someone who was previouslt fucked is something atavic. Impossible to get rid off. You feel cucked by that. You can cope and pretend it doesn't matter. But you do need to cope.


Besides. Losing your virginity pointlessly. And having a high bodycount. Are both immoral. You made your future boyfriend a cuck. Thanks to you, he'll feel like shit. You can and should be loyal to people you haven't met. That sort of values separates barbarians from civilization.

Also. LOL at the anon saying that years of loneliness were just as bad as years of dick. Keep coping whore. It's like...the more I think about that phrase the most retarded it becomes. Having a hoe phase/bad relationships leaves you even more bitter with a future partner than if you just were a loner. It leaves you with way more emotional baggage and memories. Plus, again, you made slmeone a cuck.

>>81596199
Nah. You cuxked someone and want forgivness. Fuck you. No man deserves you.
You want forgiveness? Become a nun ans go to an orphanage

>>81596135 (OP)
The real question is...can a non virgin fully love you?

wait until you find out she never loved you all.
she just loves the way you make her feel. The second you stop providing the dopamine hit, she will retroactively feel like she never loved you, and you tricked her into having feelings for you.

Women can only love their children. Most don't even do that, as the modern woman today has been conditioned to only love her own fleeting hedonistic satiation - but some still do love their kids.

No one will love you. As a male, that's not your place in the world. Your place is to provide love, safety, and resources to the woman - who then provides it to the kids.

If you have a problem with this, too fucking bad, because historically only 5-10% of men reproduce anyway. It's an extremely modern phenomenon where the average man gets a girl. You are not needed. You are disposable. My wife says she loves me, but i know the second i stop providing resoures or tickle her dopamine in a way that out-paces her instagram feed (incredibly hard and admittedly a losing battle, but i haven't lost yet), she's gone to the next dude who will get her short-term until the novelty wears off.

Either sack up and accept that nature is brutal and cruel and move forward anyway, or be a genetic dead end.

>>81597056
>Someone must have made a false accusation against Josef K., for he was arrested one morning without having done anything wrong.
I'm sure I'm just as guilty of authoring my own unhappiness as Josef K., don't forget he was assumed to be guilty as well.
>You still share your universal human experience with them in a thousand ways that are not sexual
Masking as a normie doesn't make me one. And it never will. You should be less sensitive. Live the live you want, but it's not for me.

>>81597056
>You still share your universal human experience with them in a thousand ways that are not sexual
Those thousands of ways also aren't her first time. She did the same with other men

>>81597307
>genetic dead end
Better than being a cuck. Idk why do you guys care about that so much
>humans would stop existing
Who cares. If I need to be with a nonvirgin to procreate then it isn't worth it. If that depends on me then the world can end before that happens

>>81597348
dont worry, 90% of other guys won't reproduce either. We'll just take your taxes so you can pay for the welfare, WIC, medicare, and medicaid of the moms who got knocked up by the top 10% of guys who do

>>81597348
it's nice to see others anons, who understand the real value of the entire species. or more like complete factual lack thereof.

>>81597369
>taxes
Retard. You are the one that pays taxes for me to exist

>>81597369
You know normalfags are the ones paying for our neetbux, right?

>>81597369
yes, for now. but that model isn't sustainable. And I would highly suggest to learn history and not rub anything into anybody's faces. No matter how powerful you are, a total upside down that shakes up all of the hierarchies is always around the corner. Don't take the world and your place in it for stable, especially not in 2025.
As for the history, just any massive ass revolution, be it the french chopping the heads of the kings off all the time or east asian bloody revolutions or even the soviet russian revolution.
And a revolution in a modern world is much easier than you think. It's not a matter of a power fantasy and fighting, it's a matter of not providing any resources/not working/not sharing fruits of labor anymore. The world will go down in less than a month if the working class stops slaving away, for example.

>>81597382
We need to create value for our species ourselves. Loving, committed and reciprocal relationships were the foundation of any higher human expression. Now look at this dumpster fire right /here/. From normalcattle preaching whoring to nihilist pilled faggots preaching "muh genetic legacy", it's an absolutely degraded existence anywhere you look. And I'm trapped in it quietly screaming and can't escape.
>tfw no gf

>>81597412
most men today are too busy jerking themselves into oblivion while being high. There's no fight left in them.
They do doordash or uber for relatively decent cash and pay taxes and go to their shitty studio apartment. Then they get sick and die because they have no health insurance because they're contractors or just straight up kill themselves and never have to be paid out social security.

There's no revolution coming. So either recognize it and sack up and earn your place in a shitty world and be a top 10% male, or just die alone in a shit apartment covered in grease stains.

Or be baptized and realize that there is meaning beyond this earth and you were put here for more than just to devour resources.

>>81597082
the reason virginity was valued, was because non-virgin women make for bad mothers, bad mothers bring forth poorly raised children, poorly raised children become dysfunctional adults, society collapses under dysfunctional adults.
>source??
just look around you

>>81597448
weak men empowered women because women nagged, but all that did was allow women to break free from shame of leaving secure relationships and stop them from whoring. Now they all just chase the top 10% of men, sleep with all of them, get no commitment (why would i girlfriend up a 10 when i can sleep with hundreds of 7s or 8s, who will also worship me like im a literal god).

The only ones still having kids are religious people who have values and security. In 100 years, all the hedonists will be dead and have had zero kids, so at least then we can return to a normal society - if we can stop mass migration from instead turning us into a sharia state.

>>81597458
>be a top 10% male
This can never work in a wider social sense, it excludes 90% by definition. Nobody who spouts this line of nonsense should ever be considered a serious person.

>>81596854
>You're entirely correct
Imagine three girls.
Option A had a lot of casual sex in the past. She thinks sex is something that you can divorce from love, so she is capable of doing that. She is also bitter at all men. Because she chose a lot of shitty men who told her the'd stay after sex, but pumped and dumped her. Mind you, a lot of niceguys tried to change her, but she cheated on them and left them. Now, this misandrist woman with a history of cheating and liking bad men wants to be with you.

Option B is a normal girl. She only had sex with two men: her two ex boyfriends. She stilll had sex, which sucks. But most importantly. She still has feelings for them. All the bad shit that happened in those relationship? She'll bring that baggage to you, and she'll think little things you do are the worse thing in the world because her exes did something similar but worse. It is also entirely possible she'll go back or sleep with an ex.

Option C is a woman who was lonely as many years as you. She has grown bitter, she thinks all men hate her and find her disgusting. Severe trust issues. She thinks she can't be loved.

Now. Did you pick the last option, girl C? Not only that. Is she not in fact the girl you dream of? I fucking know you want to show a lonely girl that she is loved, you want to raise her self esteem and make her trust the world again.


So yes. Loneliness is infinitely better than being a whore.

Also. The whore in this thread is trying to convince you that your loneliness was a choice. It wasn't. And if the other option was being a whore, you chose well

>>81597503
Make 100k, have a six pack. Don't waste money on stupid shit and buy a house, a few nice suits, and a german car. I promise you that you will get a tons of 4s that will love to sleep with you and even some 6s that would be loyal. Don't shit yourself, girls that are 8s have been poisoned by social media.

These are not intrinsic things that depend on your skin color or height. Anyone can get there.

>>81596962
Billionaires are waay more comon than female virgins, BTW

>>81597556
Millionaire yes, billionaire no
There's like 3k billionaires while 1/4 of 18 yo are virgins

>>81596599
Funny enough. You just acurately described the job as well.
But you know, you don't want to starve to death.

Being alone all your life is something many men are afraid to do, so they become cucks instead. I can't really blame them.

But you can and should still complain. Jobs suck because the economy is shit, you can blame your corrupt goverment for that.
And you should blame women for being all whores

>>81596703
>Police the sexuality of others? How horrifying
And just like that. You've proven to be a degenerate hedonist, a selfish person who wants to leech off the society others built with sacrifice. Society is filled with moral rules, and people policing them(or even following them out of their own accord, not that you'd understand). It's what keeps society functioning in the first place. It's what guarantees our human rights: people following the rulws of the social contract.

Selfish people like you should be ostracized. Kicked out of society. Now we listen to you. Selfish people have a voice, and for some reason your voice is given more importance than other voices. You are a cancer, but todays culture is based on opinions of hedonistic selfish people.


Besides. When you teach people why virginity matters. Policing sexuality wont happpen too much. People, out of their own accord, will listen to what you taught them. People who dont want to be evil, who want to be good, wont become whores. Having an internal sense of morality is impossible for you to comprehend

I cannot ever love a man if he has looked at porn. So, that means all men. I don't love any of you.

>>81597011
>Only insane incels think virgin women are better than seasoned women

Well, the seasoning was done with semen, so...

>>81597713
I think I speak for all men, when I say the following: we don't give a shit about you.

>>81596785
>you think women are objects
You can use cliche mantras that dont actually mean anything or you can use actual arguments. You can rephrase that with other words because it doesn't mean anything. You're an NPC language model that heard a phrase they liked and repeated it.

Also. You brought up the argument: you'd think less of a girl if she was gang raped? Thanks for helpig our case out. In that case no, because she didn't choose it. But if you choose to do evil shit, you will be judged. And people will and shoild think less of you

>>81597864
>speak for all men
Tell that to the guys who ask me out. Apparently they do. I have to wear a fake wedding band just to get them to stop.

>>81596860
No. YOU foids idolize manwhores. We just point that out.
90% of you are hybristophiles who prefer shitty men.
10% are simps/cucks with low self esteem who think they dont deserve any better

>>81597896
cool story, brother. keep your asshole safe.

>>81596861
Why can't we just own our insecurities? Nothing wrong with that. Insecuritirs arr valid. Not wanting her after she was opened by chad's cock is valid

>>81596843
There's 105% chance you cheat on your boyfriend

>>81596735
Let me break it down for you.
Sex with your loving virgin wife is one of the greatest things in the world. It is important.

Sex with a used up whore has the same value as gum under a park bench. If you are a whore, it means you chose to destroy and devalue an important experience.

By doing it with other people. You took something that was supposed to be great. And corrupted it

>>81596135 (OP)
I'm a virgin and she should be too, common courtesy, bub, what did I pry the roasties from my thighs for?

>>81597540
>Now. Did you pick the last option, girl C? Not only that. Is she not in fact the girl you dream of?
You have a way with words anon. I don't often feel seen. I'm going to be thinking about what your wrote for probably a very long time.

>>81596135 (OP)
what's the point of loving if you can just fuck

>>81596939
Absolutely incredibly and unfathomably based

>>81596170
Kill yourself wokescum.
A foid that has let other men fuck and pump all her holes is incapable of loving her man.
If she truly loved you, she wouldn't have let those other guys fuck her like a cheap cumrag in the prime of her youth.

>>81596135 (OP)
Yes.
I gave mine to someone else.
She had her fun, I had mine. I tried what I wanted to, so did she.
I still fuck her almost daily without the "what if I was fucking another woman?" and I know she feels the same.
Years ago, I had a virgin girlfriend (when I met her) and she eventually left me to chase that thrill.
Never again.

>>81598526
lol other guys nutted on your girl's face
other guys fucked her in all her holes when she was younger and fitter and now you get to enjoy their sloppy seconds
ahahahahaha you pathetic cuck LMFAOOOOO

>>81598526
This is disgusting. I wonder how men can go so low for some pussy

>>81598567
I don't really care. She has washed herself many times since then.
>>81598571
You can love women for more than their pussy.

>>81598581
she cant wash away the memories of her being fucked and used and cummed on by other guys LOL

>>81598526
This is basically:
I fucked up. She fucked up.
I cucked her. She cucked me.
Can't really complain.

The ideal would be if both of you were virgins. And if she didnt leave you because she wanted to be a whore

>>81598581
>I don't really care
Of course you don't care, since you're a cuck

>>81598595
I don't see why you are so fixated on other men's cum. lmao.
>>81598641
Well, from my experience, virgins will leave you once they get a taste of the real world. The grass is always greener, etc.
In my opinion, if you've touched enough grass, you realize it's all the same garbage. Thus, sex doesn't really matter, in a relationship.
>>81598780
Not really, I would dump her ass if she cheated on me.

>>81598894
Statistically 0-1 prior partner marriages are by far the most stable, at least that's what I've seen.

>>81598894
Mega cope
You know deep down in your heart it would have been better if she wasn't fucked by other guys.

>>81598894
not as fixated as your GF when she was drowning in the cum of other men LMAO
enjoy your sloppy seconds bro. remember that you came last.

>>81598996
Yes, but the stats are biased.
Most married people are boomers who grew up in a trad society.
It doesn't take into account second marriages: if the bitch is crazy, she most likely will get divorces after divorces and her body count is greater than 1 starting the second marriage.
Nowadays, there's so much brain washing your hypothetical virgin girlfriend will always wonder if you're the best she can get, a feeling boomers didn't have (or at least not that strongly.)
With my girlfriend, I know she believes I'm the best she can get.

>>81599011
I disagree, read my other posts.
I've dated a virgin and I was far more hurt than in the following relationships.
>>81599031
post your porn watching history, I bet there's some good cuck porn in there.
lmao

>>81599047
you want some good cuck porn? just think of your girl's past bro. think of every time she was moaning another guy's name out loud. LOL

>>81599064
kek
That's a good one
oregon

>>81599064
>Your brain on porn
kek

>>81598894
You think the only options are a virgin who will leave you. Or a girl who had sex before who wont leave you.
In other words. Girls can't actually be loyal. They have to be whores. They can't possibly only have sex with only one guy. The only way they can learn that loyalty is important is by being whores beforehand.

Remember this. You can and should keep your virginity for your future husband. You can and should be loyal to someone you havent met. Otherwise its cheating with extra steps. Its cheating with an "ummm actually, I did nothing wrong". No, its cheating, cucking and 100% wrong.

But no. According to you. Girls either need to cuck you in the past. Or cuck you in the future. Loya virgins dont exist.

If thought like that, I'd choose number C. Dying alone.


>sex doesnt really matter

In your case, because you already shared it with other people. It wiill never matter in your case

>>81599159
You can be intimate with a woman with more than just sex.
Honestly, nothing beats middle of the night cuddling or pillow talk.
>Option C: dying alone
That is honestly a respectable choice to make, as long as it isn't force upon you by fate.

>>81596170
We're not equal, though and sex means we can never be friends.

>>81599034
Ahh yes. Much better to be with a used up whore who KNOWS what Chad's dick felt like and sometimes misses it.
And non-virgins arent susceptible to more whore brainwashing.

The ideal would be a virgin who doesnt endlessly scroll pro-whore algorithmic feeds. And who avoids whore friends like a plague. You know what I dont have? Drug addicted friends. I also dont go to the pro-drug side of the internet. Its not my idea if fun, those people are shitty.

A lot of """""virgin""""" girls do choose to do the opposite; they hang around toxic whore friends and consune media made by whores. Its because they think those are cool.

I would go so far as to say even viewing your female mate as just "another human" is setting yourself up for serious injury. They need to be considered and dealt with as a female not another person.

>>81599193
The whole idea is to only have sex with women after you know you can have crazy middle of the night talks.
You know
Only bang your soulmate. Only sex after marriage.only marriage after really knowing her. But again, whores can be sneaky, like your first virgin girlfriebd

I'm not trying to dehumanize women I'm just suggesting that if you forget that she's female and thinks like one and start thinking, "Oh, this is my human partner and I can express the full range of emotions and behaviors" you are in serious trouble.

Start letting her catch you slipping, drawing on her for value, or attaching to her too dependently and watch what happens.

>>81596135 (OP)
Can you imagine having sex with a virgin?

>>81599221
I agree as a radical feminist female. If I am going to be sharing my space with you, you better treat me like a lady in worship the ground I walk on. No. Splitting the bill no pretending we are fulfilling the same roles like things 1 and things 2. For males and females to get along chivalry is required.

>>81599283
I need to be thinking in terms of, "How do I maintain organic attraction in this relationship?"

Women's egos and their sexuality are working against each other. How am I supposed to be a ravenous sexual animal and hunt you down and fuck you but be really respectful and sweet about it and respect you as an equal at the same time?

"I am a radical feminist female. We are equal. Women are out here getting raped 24/7 and the patriarchy doesn't care."

"Ok. Now that we got that out of the way we're going to play a game. I'm going to run through the woods and you are going to chase me down and force yourself on me. Extra slapping and choking please."

"But we're equal though, boys and anything you can do I can do better. Bend me over and fuck me you god damn pussy? xD"

Seriously. Shut the fuck up already, foids and get in the kitchen. Stay pregnant and make food and clean house like you know you want to and stop fucking with my head.

>>81597056
Btw anons just remember this same little leftist tranny freak will defend women shaming male virgins but loses xer's shit at you not wanting to be with a whore.
Disgusting little hypocritical piece of shit bleeding out of xer's neovagina.

should a girl feel the same way about a guy? what if she expects a virgin partner? and what if shes a virgin and expects this, and what if shes not a virgin, and still expects this?

also someones probably already asked this somewhere. blah.

Yes because Im a grown man and acknowledge virginity means fuck all. If youre an adult, your chances of meeting a virgin are lowered, its not that fucking deep

>>81596135 (OP)
Never, I will forever see her as used goods made to be a fuck toy

>>81601067
She/he doesn't even need to tell the truth thoughbeit.
She/he could give their word as a Spaniard but i've never trusted the word of a Spaniard

>>81601099
Anon, you're so mature. I don't think I'll ever be like you, you need to be open minded and wise to forgive being cucked

>>81601067
There's millions upon millions of virgin guys for them to choose. If they wanted it they can get it
It's the opposite situation with men. There's a surplus of virgin men but women don't want them meanwhile there's a lack of virgin women and men want them

>>81601336
but what about attractive virgin men? are there many of those? theres boatloads of virgin girls if you lower your standards enough.

>>81601521
nta my standards aren't high at all.
its the stupid game playin that is done by women that keep me from approaching in a meaningful way

>>81597261
Women are all cuckolds. Stacy unvirgined all the future husbands of all the women in the world

>>81601521
>theres boatloads of virgin girls if you lower your standards enough
Where?
I'd accept any woman that is virgin, above 5/10 and below 200lbs(if she's taller than 6ft then increase that to 250lbs)
Also I'm quite generous with my "points", it's hard to find a non obese young woman below 5/10 to me

>>81601634
iunno, maybe church

>>81596135 (OP)
yes if their partner lets say is DEAD, or they broke up for understandable reasons. if she just had sex with a random then no

>>81601810
The last time I saw a virgin seeking a partner, she was publicly selling her ass to billionaire to be deflowered. Even the virgins are whores now, it's over

>>81602807
yeah i imagine the actual trad/whatever virgin girl your seeking out doesn't advertise her virginity on social media or on billboards or whatever. hence the church thing. i imagine the sort of person who values their virginity, and values a nuclear family setting, traditional values, yadda yadda, would be more likely found at like, churches. i dunno, im not a chick so i dont know where they might hang out.

>>81602807
you should look harder in diff places

she didn't though. I pretty vividly remember taking it from her.

>>81602884
>churches
There is no one at church

>>81601067
If she expects anything other than a virgin she's a whore too

>>81601521
Considering women only find the top 10% of men attractive. Then no, all hot virgin Chads are currently engaged

I will never love her. But if she undergoes amputation of her clitoris to demonstrate her penitence I will at least try to accept her if I believe she underwent such a procedure with sincerity and devotion to me. She will always be a whore, but in this case an exceptional whore. One I have chosen to take and care for in exchange for her obedience and submission. I believe in monogamy, but only with a virgin. I may marry a nonvirgin whore, statistically that represents some 99% of the women who can be married. But I would never enter legal marriage with one. If somehow I were to meet a virgin woman and took a liking to her, I would also marry her. My nonvirgin wife would then be given the status of second wife, and the virgin bride would be my first wife. I would still take care of my second wife in this scenario, but when I die 100% of my estate would go to my first wife and any children she bore for me. As a nonvirgin worthless whore, my second wife is only entitled to my benevolence while I am alive. Her clitoris only bought her my time on earth. She and any children we have are illegitimate. She is something I settled for out of despair that I may never meet a virgin woman deserving of becoming a real wife.

>>81601810
>boatloads of virgin girls
Fucking where
>uhhh....i dont know

>>81602884
>The only way for a woman to not be a whore is if she believes whores go to hell

>>81602884
>the sort of person who values their virginity, and values a nuclear family setting
Is this really so hard to find. I don't want to hang out with Magacucks

>>81604063
And even then only a small chunk of chirstian women marry virgin. Even with hell as deterrence they still can't stop being whores

>>81596199
Based, but you have to consider people are entitled to their standards too.
>>81596297
Depends. I don't particularly care too much about virginity because the only reason I didn't lose mine is trauma because I was touched by a classmate before I was ready. Trauma cucked me when I could've fucked earlier than my gf. I hold my partners to the standards I follow.

>>81604101
>Oh but Jesus forgives all sins so you should marry this woman who had a bodycount of 50 before joining our church

>>81604101
Only the threat of physical violence can keep them in line. The only places where girls are still traditionally virgins are those that practice honor killing.

>>81596135 (OP)
Yes? Just stop being a faggot and grow up.

>>81596170
We are not equal thougheverbeit, all that shit about equality is jewish subversion

>>81604001
Chad status is also related to mental. I have really hot friends that can't get a date because they're absolute pussy repellents.

>>81596135 (OP)
it really depends on the person. i have this weird thing where i couldn't care less about some people having past partners, but then the idea of some being with others before me destroys me. i think it's about how they come across. like why are you acting mysterious, nerdy, autistic, etc if you regularly fuck people? it feels disingenuous to me, but maybe it's irrational

>>81596135 (OP)
No. But at some point you are also supposed to become jaded to the idea of love. For most people this happens in High School when their first love breaks up with them for the first time.

But since incels never go through this crucial development phase they are still stuck in that weird adolescent mindset where love is idealized as this magical pure thing that is eternal and stronger than anything else in the world.

When the reality is that we are all just animals fucking. Sometimes you fuck someone who sticks around and sometimes you don't, sometimes you have a dry spell and sometimes you get to fuck multiple different people. But that's all it is and all it ever was just animals fucking.

>>81604133
Why do cucks always use grown up as just being a defeatist faggot?
Where's your male ego? Your conqueror will? Or you think those things are toxic like your overlords taught you?

>>81604163
>crucial development phase
lol
That practice isn't even 100 years old. Acting as if it's a fundamental step for the human experience is laughable

>>81604145
Then they're not actually hot. Not 10% hot. Women will jump through hoops to date one of these guys.

>Pussy repelent
You fell for a psyop. Apparently, men have to jump around and jestermaxx in order to be deserving of love. If they dont have the exact right personality, they are deemed to be pussy repellent and deserve to die alone. Guess what. They're still good enough to be your friends. If a woman had the exact same autistic personality, men would love them.

Let me clue you in on the truth. Women are only actually sexually attracted to the top 10% of men. The other 90%? Women just want to use them. As a betabuxx/oofy doofy/etc. These men (90% of men) are just status symbols. Means to an end. That's why they have to have the right personality, the righ bank account, etc. Because they're not looking for love, they're looking for someone with status they can leech off

>>81604163
>I'm a psycho so everyone should see the world like I see
I know many people that married after highschool and were each others first and their marriage are by far the best ones that I know
"Real world" tards are exactly like incels, but even more insufferable. The world isn't just how you see it

>>81604223
I'm so sorry you fell for the blackpill and wish you to eventually be happy.

>>81604284
Unironically pilled men are pathetic

It's just this. There's no point in discussing with degenerates, simps and whores. Let them eat their shit

>>81604335
We're trying to convince larvae to become bees rather than flies

>>81604193
>Everyone married for life and only had sex with one person in their life until 100 years ago
Look out we got a live one over here

>>81604241
I'm sure normal people seem like psychos when you are an incel pussy but if you ever took the time to speak with someone other than your immediate family or therapist I'm sure you'd find that most of them are just as jaded about sex and love

>>81604491
>>Everyone married for life and only had sex with one person in their life until 100 years ago
Wow, the only thing you got right was "100 years ago". Maybe you should buy a new pair of glasses since you're forming new sentences from nowhere

>>81604335
>bees are now facing extinction while flies are probably exploding in population
lmao get fuckin rekted beetards

>>81604491
>or therapist
Most "normal people" don't go to the therapist. You assuming that already tells me your brain already is broken

>>81604545
It's even more of a perfect analogy then. Bees support a health society while flies make everything worse

>>81604531
>birth control, feminism, and all government systems by design hobbling men while artificially propping women up has always been in place since before caveman times
lmao shut up retard
It is undeniable that this is currently the worst possible time for humans to live in the entirety of their existence as a species. While women currently have it better than men now, at any point in previous history women were happier and better off than contemporary women. I assume you are using some kind of speech to text program because it's obvious that you have not only never read a book in your life, you are illiterate. Additionally, a homosexual and pedophile. You should commit suicide. 30 grams of acetaminophen should do the trick.

>>81596170
fpbp
men are shit, you can tell the simple action of love will remain beyond their comprehension

>>81605591
You were supposed to civilize us foid. Now look at this mess we're in

>>81605591
Love is just women's cope and retirement plan
>I've given my body to other men but we love each other so it doesn't matter :)

>>81596135 (OP)
>loving a woman
I'm not a suicidal tier retard so NO, I will not ever do this

>>81596135 (OP)
but im also not a virgin

>>81605591
The whore is the one who mocked the idea of love when she lost her virginity to some random guy.
It's called making love for a reason. She is the one who decided to divorce love from sex.

>>81605816
You're supposed to be strong enough to step up to the plate and finish what another man started.
So it's a blessing in the sky really, being an single mother. All the weird men will filter themselves out.
>b-but I want to really have kids of my own
Oh? You somehow claim to want kids while a woman already having kids is a red flag? Bullshit. If you can't handle the easy stage then you definitely don't want kids when they are babies and have diapers and need to be fed. If you genuinely wanted kids and truly loved a woman you could accept kids that are 'only' 50% yours. Isn't wanting 100% greedy? The kids are always at least 50% because that's how much the mother contributes to a child. Turning down single mothers isn't about you wanting to have kids 'of your own'. You just want to punish women for cheating on you before they were even aware you existed. And they say women are the irrational ones lmao.

>>81607118
>You're supposed to be strong
shut up, you worthless aids ridden hole. Nobody has to do anything. Go die alone in a ditch somehwere, lmao.

>>81604151
Holy fuck I hate those people
The "shy" whores

You stop having the right to be shy once you became a whore. Time to be an adullt, whore; stop acting like a child.
They will have crushes on guys, but they are to shy to make a move. They might even be mean to them, all part of that shy crush. But meanwhile, while that crush is going on; they are recieving cumshots from other random guys.
How would you feel if that was you.

>Ummm...anon. I'd actually liked you for a really long time, never had the nerve to tell you. Oh, yeah...in the meantime I had sex with 7 different guys though..

These whores always share and joke about being forever alone too. Uwu I'm jusg an akward and shy bean, nobody likes me, I'm too weird and nobody will ever like me. Meanwhile she has literal cum from like 7 different guys on her mouth. Them using foreveralone memes is culltural appropiation and I won't srand for it.

But seriously these whores are gross.

If you are going to be a whore, you should have the mental maturity to have swx first. Of coursw, if you were mature, you wouldn't become a whore in the first placr

>>81607130
Pretty sure the anon you responded to was just a guy larping as a retarded whore, and hates whores as much as we do

>>81607118
Also, now that I've read your post, I highly suggest that you shut the fuck up with your delusions, because you'll make men man up and remove all of your benefits sooner than you'd think. And you will end up homeless in a ditch with your worthless niglet, like trash you are.
Men don't have to do anything. Human beings are animals. Animals kill those, who are not of their tribe. In any decent society you would have been exiled at best. But, the businessman needs a number to go up, so you and your destructive behavior is tolerated.
It's hard to tell whether you'll lose the free speech or the gibs first, but you will lose both. And I'm here for it, to enjoy every single moment of it. There is nothing better than justice.

>>81607118
>punish women for cheating on you before they even knew you existed

Modern women cannot comprehend this basic level of loyalty and decency

>>81607180
You are the type of person to ruin the fun by explaining and demonstrating how a magic trick is done. But you are probably also the type of person society desperately needs. I am compelled by hatred and have lost all hope for anything getting better.
It doesn't matter how batshit crazy I larp, someone will always bite. I exaggerate and put up neon signs saying lol lmao, but some people really think like this. So someone will always engage. And I get engagement, because it is so believable. I'm exaggerating but not really. We are beyond fucked at this point.
>>81607194
You honed in on the single nugget of shitcorn of truth of any value in my shitpost. Unfortunately it is as you say, women and men both think this is the trolling when it's the only sincere point I am trying to make.

>>81597261
Most women are lowkey nuns nowadays anyways, so what is your point? You are the one who suffers from "lack of wives"; women are content being garden ladies with 20 cats and just adopting instead of birthing.

>>81597471
I don't think it's related
50% of women are not fit to be mother just by their nature.
Humans in general suck at parenting, Like 8/10 adults have some sort of mommy and daddy issues

>>81607180
>>81607645
You are retarded. And you can say
>I was pretending to be retarded
all you want, but you're still retarded. It isn't about you. You as a unit are irrelevant. It is about the ideas. And same ideas will generate more or less the same feedback to them. All the time. Since time immemorial.
Problem is not you, problem is the same deadly ideas being re-translated again instead of being universally forgotten and looked at as the ultimate brainrot by the humanity at large. Were you embarrassed to spout this bullshit to the level typing 2+2 = 13, then we'd have nice things.
TL;DR: There is a always value in dismantling harmful ideas regardless of the source.

>>81596170
>>81596199
Its just funny how when people discuss why men must approach first its
>I HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND RISK OF CARRYING A CHILD OF COURSE I NEED TO BE APPROACHED LIKE A QUEEN
>Okay, so are you a virgin?
>WOW OKAY SERIOUSLY? IM JUST A HYMEN IS THAT ALL YOU SEE ME AS?
Women reduce themselves to that level when it benefits their argument, just incubators with no responsibility, but somehow want all the responsibility and decision making that men have.

>>81607821
Do you not think highlighting the fact that 1+1=69 provides no use in displaying the profound errors commonly made?
Play along earnestly or convincingly cut down the straw men I put before you. Saying lol that's just how it be doesn't work. The stupid people will never learn from that.

>>81608084
>Do you think
Yes, I do think. Everything has to be as simple and oftentimes as painful as possible. It isn't a strawman. You answer it yourself here:
>The stupid people
Animals. They understand pain and suffering. They don't like discipline. You must teach them that they must be disciplined.
You overestimate both your own as well as the level of intelligence of the masses. A human could be a secretary of economic affairs or some such bullshit, but it doesn't mean, that they're intelligent or smart. Look at Musk trying to improve the government "quickly", lmao. All talk, no effect. Because the government is a very complex system most people can't even imagine.
It is super evident and clear when a "democract", a "liberal", a "progressive", etc, for example can't grasp this simple concept of voting. Voting in a democratic way means that the majority decides what will happen. It can result in the most retarded clown world that can't be taken seriously without any future votes and democracy for a while. It doesn't matter, because current voters decided that they want it. I see a reflection of you and your self-perceived intelligence in these examples.

>>81608334
I don't understand your point. Maybe an hour ago I could win heavily abunu alcohol becafi am so disenfranchised from the world. Democracy is the greatest evil humanity has ever come up with. Freedom is what matters, but America rules the world and they only want one thing, to prevent anyone from ever becoming a free man. I hate my country. I'm very happy Trump succeeded in his lies he said he supports America and freedom, he said he was against war. Idiots, morons, and ignoramuses fell for his obvious lies. It is beautiful no one can undo the damage trump has done working as the greatest champion of the US monoparty.
I want to see everyone suffer and be in pain. We live in far left dictatorship hell. There's nothing good about life I only wish to see others suffer.

>>81608416
>I don't understand your point.
That's the point.
>Democracy is the greatest evil humanity has ever come up with.
Reason is because Democracy actively prevents you from getting what you want. It doesn't matter you or what you are, it's a matter of a fact. Whether you're up to any good at all is a whole discussion entirely and is irrelevant here.
>Freedom is what matters
First of all it doesn't matter. Secondly, you have all the freedom in the world, factually. You can literally do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're ready to meet and deal with all of the consequences of your behavior.
>Idiots, morons, and ignoramuses fell for his obvious lies.
You're making a huge number of very dangerous assumptions here, which causes a bit of a cognitive dissonance, because you yourself just want things to be the way you want without other people having a say in at all.
One of the assumptions, for example, is that people are against any and all of the wars on the basis of principle or something like that. Obviously untrue, since there are always a huge number of humans directly profiting off a war being waged in a number of ways, not just monetary. But money does play a huge role and is at the center too, obviously. Duh.
>I want to see everyone suffer and be in pain. We live in far left dictatorship hell. There's nothing good about life I only wish to see others suffer.
So you yourself are resentful because of your unresolved trauma. We're not interested in dump, just seek help in form of good ideas on how to fix it, like ask a doctor.
Member, anon, two and more than two things are true at the same time. at all times. World could be meh, politics can suck, but you can be bad at the same time and responsible for your shite life yourself.

>>81607888
Can't you just reduce that to
>casual sex is low investment, chad teehee
>starting a family is high investment, need worker bee
They're not wrong but men don't like this dynamic and it's not being addressed

>>81608664
>and it's not being addressed
It is. They're being brainwashed by literally everything and everybody, even pseudo science like bullshit psychology. Obviously it all boils down to:
>Yas queen, be bitch, men will have to men up and carry everything forward including you
It's like they never even thought, that men can just analyze and go
>nah, muh life is not about a female and I don't give a shit and go my own way
This is why the current state of things is being described as a "crisis", "epidemic of loneliness", and all that retarded bullshit by the same braindead actors and pseudo scientists.
To me personally, it's kind of surprising, that nobody thought of it. It's all so self-evident to me. It's objective, rational, logical. Yeah, duh, men will quit society, of fucking course.

>>81608795
Isn't this kind of obvious though? People require incentives to do things

>>81607677
By nun I mean celibate
Not girl-celibate, where they had sex "only" two months ago and feel like they're going to die.
And actual charity work

>>81607717
Those 50% of women are all whores. And they became like thst becsuse they were raised that way

>>81608985
>Isn't this kind of obvious though?
The question is: Obvious to whom? A grown ass rational intelligent man, who is constantly learning and is getting better and is making the world better? Yes.
It is not evident to me, however, that is obvious to the stupid and retarded. it equally isn't obvious to all of the blinded by the quick profits, bad actors, people who ignore it on purpose, people who don't even perceive humans as individuals (corporations see humans as numbers), and so forth. I also do not think, that it is in any way obvious to the completely self-absorbed easy peaceful mode living in the world narcissist females.
Because to you and I, or men in general, or people who struggle, whatsoever, it is fucking obvious that virtue and cooperation are a must to make the human world function and exist in the first place. It's not a must for people not concerned with the functionality, people, who just reap the benefits by doing fuck all even at their workplaces. Kindergarten, immaturity, bubbles, ignorance.
TL;DR: It is obvious to people who act in and build the world. It must not even be obvious itself, at all, to anybody leeching off this world or stealing from it. This is what I think.

>>81609372
>it is fucking obvious that virtue and cooperation are a must to make the human world function
This essay is from 1995. I always found it clarifying
https://www.spectacle.org/995/love.html

>>81596843
She didn't choose me though she settled for me. Big difference. I don't want to be settled for, better to be alone.

>>81607118
The only reason I realized it was a shitpost is because of that nugget of shitcorn truth. It included something resembling accountability.
A woman would never post anything resembling accountability.
But, you know, you have to include it. Otherwise a whore might read your post and become fully influenced by it. "Yeah, why shouldn't the beta raise my children"

That grain of accountability prevents whores from adopting those ideas. "But...yeah. No, this person admits she cheated; and I could never admit I cheated. Tyrone didn't count, it was just one night. No, I won't adopt these ideas"


But also. A big chunk of women I've met. IRL. Have these type of whore misandrist ideas. It's not just internet ragebait. It's most women today. We're completely and utterly fucked as a society

>>81596135 (OP)
Me and my gf are both virgins, I don't think I could be with a girl who isn't a virgin. It would make me sick to my stomach if another guy had an intimate experience with her

>>81601067
Yes she should. Your body is a temple and you should only have sex with someone you truly love. It's not unreasonable to want your boyfriend or girlfriend to be a virgin. But the double standard that men can sleep around and be fine but if a women loses her virginity to a guy she's "used up" or a "whore" doesn't make sense at all to me.

>>81609428
If you're going to read that article, read what the prisoner's dilemma is first.
I read half the article without knowing what it was. I had to reread it again

>>81596135 (OP)
If you're in a relationship just to have fun and not feel lonely then I don't see the problem, but if you want to take it seriously and form a family with her then you're a cuck. Your wife and the future mother of your children already sucked off another man

>>81596135 (OP)
>"Would you love someone that doesn't love you?"
If she didn't waited for you then she doesn't love you therefore such women should be used as a plaything, anything more and you're a simp

>>81609809
>But the double standard that men can sleep around and be fine but if a women loses her virginity to a guy she's "used up" or a "whore" doesn't make sense at all to me.
Being in the submissive position and being fucked is inherently degrading. It's universal. In prison the guy that gets stigmatized as the faggot is the one who gets fucked in the ass. The Romans and Greeks also had similar beliefs. The same applies to women. For women heterosexual sex is inherently degrading which is why a whore provokes such disgust in men, that she degraded herself with so many other men.

>>81596170
Why the fuck should I see her as equal if we have entirely unequal pasts

>>81612182
The comic should include more panels
>The male loneliness epidemic is fake, women are lonely too
-But what about all these incels
>A lot of women are incels too
-Fine, I only want a virgin gf
>Wanting a virgin gf is unrealistic, everybody has a past

Probably should have less words; and it should be in the Patrick's wallet or Pawn Stars throwing chairs format. Too fucking lazy to do it

>>81612275
Everyone is lonely yet at the same time everyone are sexhavers. Normalfags don't care, they just want to win an argument and feel better

>>81611326
That is some depraved shit you wrote. No wonder this place is devoid of any serious conversation . Garbage logic and garbage thinking.

>>81596135 (OP)
Not really lol
But I'm virginless so can't really judge

i had 2 girlfriends that were virgins when i met them, yes they are the only ones i gave a shit for.