Why are singles mothers saw as bottom barrel failures while singles fathers are seen as someone who got their shit together

Misogyny and patriarchy

>>81608122 (OP)
Single mothers aren't seen as failures outside of dating. The fact that their man isn't there could be of many reasons, but most men simply don't want to raise another man's child. He could've died, she could've left him cause he cheated etc. Single fathers are only praised by single woman who want to date them because it shows them they are committed.
>>81608130
Buzzwords.

>>81608122 (OP)
because if a court gives custody of a kid to the father that means the mother is a massive fuckup or dead. if a mother has custody, odds on are she's still a regular fuckup.

>>81608122 (OP)
Success rates in not raising criminals

>>81608122 (OP)
Same thing with skin color
White they earned to be there
Black or non white dei hire
Society hates women so if they see women had sex without a constant vigilance of a man they crucify her
It's all just double standard

>>81608367
>Society paints women as nothing but entertainment not meant to be taken seriously
>The kids pick up on that and act accordingly

>>81608122 (OP)
We have birth control now. So if she's a single mother either she chose poorly or couldn't do something simple like take a pill on a regular basis.

>>81608122 (OP)
>Why are singles mothers saw as bottom barrel failures while singles fathers are seen as someone who got their shit together

The difference in outcome. Children from single father households perform nearly as well as children from two parent households, while single mothers produce filth.

>>81608484
It fails retard

>>81608465
>Circle is round
You should fix it

>>81608667
It's funny men suffer the most under patriarchy but the people perpetuating it are men
It's ironic

>>81608658
There's also this, I forgot to ask the most important factor.

>>81608679
>Derails
Lol

>>81608685
Derails? I'm just making an observation you do like logic and facts right?

>>81608689
>Derails? I am just avoiding talking about single mothers
Lol

>>81608694
Why are you getting upset what happened to that emotional control?

>>81608465
>men forced me to burn my kid with cigarette butts
based female fatigue accelerator

>>81608696
>people laughing at me are upset
nta but lol

>>81608679
The patriarchy is literal nonsense retardation
Quit being retarded and baiting.

>>81608696
>Derails even more
My response to you agreed with you lol

>>81608703
It's not nonsense it's women dodging accountability

>>81608698
It's even funnier because you only green text when you are upset
And you think you are arguing with a woman so anyone viewing the conversation would think the woman was being calm and rational and the man was getting hemotional
Hold this L

>>81608703
Who's in charge of society men or women

>>81608713
No need to be antisemitic anon.

>>81608708
Whatever, keep producing human garbage. If it ends up being a dude, I'll be his mentor, right here.

>>81608708
>not greentexting any time it's appropriate
>on the greentext board
Shiggydiggy

>>81608716
Answer the question Man or Woman

>>81608713
Democratically elected officials of both of the two genders. Both men and women.

>>81608721
The ecb is headed by a woman. Money is law

>>81608719
Hiding behind irony doesn't make you look as secure as you think

>>81608725
>>81608729
Dodging the question
The strongest man Vs the strongest women who's stronger?

>>81608738
I answered you, the ecb is headed by a woman. The ecb is also one of the four most powerful monetary institutions on earth. She is responsible for 7 trillion dollars.

>>81608679
It's almost like the patriarchy doesn't exist! Why would there be a system made for men by men that doesn't actually benefit men, hmm? It's not adding up.

>>81608742
No you're dodging the question

>>81608744
Who started the war in Ukraine? And is that person currently dying in that war?

>>81608731
No need for irony, I am simply detached and cynical.

>>81608745
No you just dont like the answer and went on to derail the convo just as you have done earlier.
>Who's in charge of society men or women
Women are in charge of europe on the highest economic levels and political levels

>>81608738
>society's elite are determined by how much weight they can lift

>>81608738
I answered your question. You just didn't like the answer because you're retarded and thought your 80IQ gotcha question would prove your point.

>>81608760
Because you're dodging the question
Who runs society
Men
Or women

>>81608751
Wow where did that goalpost go? I just saw it here a second ago

>>81608766
Women, as I have already said.

>>81608763
Who are better leaders
Men
Or women?

>>81608775
it depends on the position. Most leader's dodge all accountability, so women would be better leaders in my opinion

>>81608769
Answer the question
And stop dodging

>>81608775
Now this is getting into incel territory. Sasuga, woman defender.

>>81608775
Those groups are too broad. I'd pick an individual that bases their decisions on empathetic logic for lack of better words. Don't care about the gender

>>81608774
If women do run society there is nothing wrong with single mothers. You can see yourself out of this thread.

>>81608766
Who wins the majority of custody battles?
Who gets half of the assets in a marriage solely because the courts feel sorry for them?
Who has zero expectations set upon them to provide for themselves?

>>81608783
I don't think you understand what a leader is.

>>81608799
Apparently not the case

>>81608766
Stop asking the question as if it's a binary answer, you're retarded. We don't have kings. Modern society is democratic. Which means the people, plural, PEOPLE, in charge of society are of mixed backgrounds, races and genders.

>>81608799
>If women do run society there is nothing wrong with single mothers.
Elaborate.

>>81608797
So you disagree that single fathers and mothers are better or worse then one another
Welcome to the right side of humanity

>single mother went batshit ITT
post the niglet, kayla

>>81608811
If women are capable of running an entire society then being single mothers is not an issue.

>>81608817
Lmao xillionth post best post

>>81608658
>>81608683
Single mothers also tend to be repeat offenders. Once ran into a woman with six kids of varying skin color.

>>81608817
It's funny watching the gender that claims women are to emotional greentexting to themselves

>>81608822
Apparently not, as observed by the statistics:
>>81608683
>>81608658

>>81608822
>Woman (defender) cant into is ought problem
Lol

>>81608817
Kek she is seething so hard too

>>81608808
Yes but if I asked you in public who are better leaders you would say literally
"Well most men have been the leaders so they have to naturally be the better leaders" you can pretend to be rational and logical here but deep down we know you would pick a make to lead you over a woman

>>81608825
Post it. Make my day, dogfucker.

>>81608122 (OP)
because if there's a divorce the mom gets the kid by default, even if she's a total fuckup; dads have to actually have their shit together to get custody..

>>81608839
Statistics are irrelevant it's all subjective you say crime is bad but if most of human leaders have been morally questionable people why aren't kids who disregard society's rules for their own benefit not the design of human nature you wouldn't tell ghenghis Khan or Alexander conquering and raping the enemy is wrong
Society operates on might makes right philosophy

>>81608854
>>81608831
meant to reply to this but I was actually laughing, sorry

>>81608814
some individuals are better/worse than others. Don't care about gender.
It would still probably suck as a kid to only have one parent though. It might, might not. shrug

>>81608122 (OP)
A single mother is someone who failed to secure the necessary partner required to properly raise children, mostly through a lack of proper judgement.

Because we live in a matriarchal society, a single father is a rare sight because usually custody of the child is given to the mother. It is a responsibility that men are neither accustomed to nor prepared for.

>>81608873
That is not the ideology you subscribe which is why you came i. This thread to argue with me if you truly believed that you would have responded to op disputing his double standard

>>81608877
>It is a responsibility that men are neither accustomed to nor prepared for.
Yet they end up performing better anyway. Imagine that.

>>81608877
Why didn't those men pick better women
You very quick to paint the father as the helpless victim in this situation

>>81608850
>you would say literally
>"Well most men have been the leaders so they have to naturally be the better leaders"
Those are your thoughts. YOU think that. Not me.

Secondly, I would never pick someone to lead me. I don't need a leader, I don't need to follow anyone.
Unlike you, who needs to be lead, who needs to be taught exactly what to think, what is correct, etc.
You're a
RE-
TARD.

>>81608881
I didn't respond to the thread cause I want to debate something people would argue about no matter what I said, in other words it just wasn't worth for me to bother with. The comment interested me

>>81608892
Because men pick who they can, not who they want, because women control the dating scene.

>>81608910
Cause I don't want to*
gender war stuff is brain rot

>>81608901
No it's not YOU'RE taking the feminist position knowing full well you think of women as children you don't actually hold this position you're real position would make you look bad so you are taking the logical stance which is NOT what you actually believe I could have asked you in any other thread about any other topic and you would have said without a doubt "Men are just better leaders" just like you would said without a doubt "Men are better Athletes"

>>81608923
Why are you putting words in that poor anon's mouth?
You are being histrionic

>>81608912
Ah so now the man is the victim of his circumstances I'm glad you could find a way for men to avoid responsibility it's good you don't stigmatize that trait

>>81608929
Something Ive noticed about you guys is when you get backed into a corner you start demanding to be treated nicer

>>81608931
Women do brag about having their pick of any man they want, though. Men don't ever say that.
So in this instance, there is zero hypocrisy

>>81608931
I'm sure you have plenty of experience in avoiding responsibility

>>81608943
No need to downplay female rights activists

>>81608950
But in your world view people who are victims of their circumstances are not at fault which is it

>>81608943
You haven't backed anyone into a corner you are just piling fallacies one on top of another so nobody is really taking you seriously because you haven't created a solid foundation for your argument

>>81608943
I've noticed that when you can't win you simply attack from an irrelevant angle.

>>81608947
And men get mad at women laughing at men dying in wars and not at the men sending the men to die in wars
Anything else

>>81608957
True victims sure, not ones who play the victim.

>>81608970
Victimblaming much

Both of you guys are kinda annoying.
When I look at people, I see a person, not a male or a female. A human.

>>81608958
It's very funny you got upset that in your words I was being disgenous knowing full well if this was a why are women bad thread that other anon would be talking about how women are infantilizef adults instead he's now in this thread pretending not to see gender in regards to leadership and opinions on such it's disingenuous but that's how your ideology operates

>>81608966
histrionics again

>>81608970
Poor men no choice in women so he had to pick a bad woman
Anyway she chose to get pregnant now she has to have the kid even if she does not want it

>>81608923
>you think of women as children
That's you. You think that.
>you don't actually hold this position you're real position would make you look bad
That's you.
>"Men are just better leaders"
That's your thought.
>"Men are better Athletes"
That's your thought.

Nice projection, retard. You said nothing about me, and just spewed your own mental garbage.

>>81608972
Its honestly just one xir who cant cope about why society doesnt think of single mothers as well as they do of single fathers. Endless navelgazing

>>81608974
To be fair, you have been acting like an infantilized adult this entire time

>>81608982
I saw more posting and seething about Ukrainian women enjoying refugee life in comfort then I saw anti Putin posts you know the reason both sides men are dying go on I'm sure you have that side by side comparison image of Ukrainian women all smiles next to dead Ukrainian men in some.slavic field

>>81608990
And there's the ironic backhanded statements
Slay on sassy king

>>81608997
>complain about patriarchy
>Reference a video that proves the patriarchy itself absolves and exalts women
Why complain about something you are actively benefitting from?

>>81609009
>proves my point for me
Love to see it

>>81609037
Capitalists without capital

>>81608122 (OP)
Because women have options, so if they chose a shitty person to parent with then that just means they're retarded.
Men don't have options because of hypergamy + all women are crazy, so if their breeding partner is a fuck-up and they took over that's righteous.

>>81609045
Passive aggressiveness would be viewed as a feminine trait which is what you displayed in that previous post
Truly the sassy man apocalypse

>>81609054
If men don't have options because they are all low value and can't compete you're essentially saying a million women have to share 10 high quality males or pick one of the other 999,990 low quality males

>>81609058
Nothing passive about pointing out that you fit the same stereotype you complain about.

>>81609077
Very VERY passive aggressive
I get why you love Chad so much and hate women

>>81609088
I literally called you an infantilized adult to your face. You don't understand the concept of passive aggressive, and are actually employing it now

>>81609066
>you're essentially saying a million women have to share 10 high quality males or pick one of the other 999,990 low quality males
That's what you're saying. No one ITT said that except for you.

>>81609094
"To be fair, you have been acting like an infantilized adult this entire time"
Back handed statement
All my posts prior have been cold cut and logical and you resorted to an ad hominem
Essentially name-calling because if you stop and think about it you know men are the more emotional of the genders
It's funny when someone says
"We can't elect a female leader what if they get their period and start a war or launch some missiles"
As they watch Ukrainian war gore video and here about trump dropping big bombs on a foreign nation

>>81609110
"Because women have options, so if they chose a shitty person to parent with then that just means they're retarded.
Men don't have options because of hypergamy + all women are crazy,"
Do you have short term memory loss?

>>81609116
That's not back handed, that's me straight up calling you childish.
Your posts are not logical which is why most people arguing with you gave up in logic.
Another anon worded it best here >>81608961 I would play the game if I knew where the goalposts had gone

>>81609133
You clearly said your post in a very feminine passive aggressive way
"To be fair, you have been acting like an infantilized adult this entire time"
I can imagine you smiling and puckering your lips and you typed this

>>81608961
I didn't even see your very emotional response
99.9% of this board would not EVER say women are good as leaders so for you to expect me to believe the other anon is being genuine about his I see no gender in leadership roles comment is very disingenuous

>>81609138
>Feminine is supposed to be an insult from somebody whose whole personality revolves around perceived oppression from men
I have been smiling the whole time this whole charade is so ridiculous

A man with his shit together is more attractive. Women have the system on their side.
Section 8 housing, the courts are more likely to give the child to the mother than the father, women homeless shelters, ect ect.

>>81609166
Yes feminine is usually viewed as weak or irrational so in this context I used your own biases to attack you ego
The male ego is easily fragile

>>81609183
*pats your head*
Good radfem. I knew you would come around to our way of seeing things

>>81609192
Nothing hurts ego of men like you more than calling you feminine the moment your masculinity is challenged you lash out
It's also funny you virtually patted another man's head which is also a very feminine act

>>81609199
Do you think my hair is pretty too?
*bats eyelashes*

>>81608665
If you think most single mothers are due to failed birth control you're a fucking idiot.

>>81609209
I'm wondering why you got so upset about being called out as feminine before

>>81609214
If you think she should have to raise the bastard if she doesn't want it you're the fucking idiot
Also would you tell Ghenghis Khan he was a menace to society

>>81609219
I have not been upset this entire time, anon. That's what you are failing to understand

>>81609226
You got very obtuse when I pointed out your feminine passive aggressiveness before so much you had to set the record straight

Dude I bought a bagel from the bulk bin lol. And, I saw like tons of bagels missing. Thats very telling, other people are buying bagels from the bulk section. Thats so fucking funny dude. I guess theyre poor, just like me. I hadnt eaten in over 30 hours dude and I only had 5 dollars. Lol, so I bought an apple and a bagel. Very humble lately. Ate it off tinfoil because, I dont own a plate. Threw it out like the dark wizard suggested.

>>81609225
It's the bitches fault for having sex in the first place. I don't give a fuck what some chinese horse general does with his stime.

>>81608122 (OP)
80% of children raised by single-mothers end up in prison
the other 20% end up gay and retarded
while most kids raised by single fathers grow up to be normal people

>>81609253
Punishing women for sex is the definition of patriarchy
Only In a patriarchy would a woman be punished for the audacity of having sex

>>81609234
Because pedantically enough, it wasn't actually passive aggressive, this is splitting hairs at this point though, and I have to go to work. I hope you have as much fun as I did fucking around with you

>>81609255
"80% of children raised by single-mothers end up in prison
the other 20% end up gay and retarded
while most kids raised by single fathers grow up to be normal people"
Sounds like the kids raised by single fathers would be the one kissing the feet of single mothers alpha kids who do what they want when they want
I thought you guys supported masculinity

>>81609262
There you go again explaining why IT WASNT passive aggressive
"To be fair, you have been acting like an infantilized adult this entire time"
You were probably smiling ear to ear when you typed this

>>81609296
>he doesn't smile while ridiculing someone

Sounds like alpha kids are raised by single mothers
Isn't that the end result of alpha bro dude redpill culture men being men

>Arguing so hard for women you become andrew tate

>>81609307
It's very funny you didn't even deny that after complaining it wasn't passive aggressive probably were kicking your feet too

According to dude bros women are irrational so if I'm being irrational and you are comparing me to alpha dude bro
I think you might want to think about what you just argued

>>81609321
Anon , have you talked to your doctor about your plans for living with autism?
You seem to be having a lot of trouble understanding social interactions

>>81609319
>>81609327
Arguing like your enemy is never an actual argument

>>81609278
Masculinity is not being an emotionally driven faggot who "does what he wants". That's effeminate nigger behaviour.

>>81609342
Complained about when I said your comment was passive aggressive which is a feminine trait then admitted you were giggling to yourself with that absolute zinger of a post you made

>>81609360
Just smiling and sipping coffee, anon. You are very hung up on that exchange, hope you feel better

>It's been 3 hours atp

>>81609356
Men do what men want that is your concept of masculinity
Or is it men do what others want of him

>>81609350
He used the classic you're so anti racist youre actually racist in regards to feminist logic
If a feminist sounds like a misogynist that's irrational which ultimately displays that misogyny is inherently irrational

>>81609395
>Men do what men want that is your concept of masculinity
Whose? You don't know me, you don't know what I consider to be masculine. Doing what you want is immature, irresponsible and feminine behaviour.
>Or is it men do what others want of him
Men do what is expected of them for the benefit of their families and communities. Historically the greatest men have self-sacrificed for the future of their children and their children's children.

>>81609563
>Men do what is expected of them for the benefit of their families and communities.
Fantastic you have no problem with society then. You no longer need to be in this thread.

This thread is actually one of gods creations lol. He created mostly violence and humiliation. He creates it by writing the posts himself. What is gods brain? He isnt human. Hes also apparently really really old in human years. So to quickly like skim over this thread dude, looks almost like a warzone. Like somebody is writing the gayest fucking posts possible just to annoy somebody who comes here lol. So thats the kinda stuff god does. Hes definitely a liar dude.

>>81609626
Very effeminate and passive aggressive post.
Moder society is broken and does not benefit anyone, it only perpetuates short-term pleasure seeking and hurts long-term prospects of both men and women and their potential children. Rejecting such a broken system and working towards either reforming it or destroying it to replace it with a beneficial system would be a masculine act.

>>81608122 (OP)
>single mother
99% change she is in this situation because she is retard who make terrible decisions.
>singles fathers
considering the court will give the custody to the mother 99% of the time, the mother must have been colossal fuck up and he did nothing wrong.

Imagine walking on a crime scene two people dead one is tatted up in gang tattoos and have tats even on his face, the other is in clean shaven and in a suit. Who will think it is the hit target and who is the collateral? Basic pattern recognition.

>>81608122 (OP)
Either she made a bad choice of husbands or she made a bad choice of divorcing. Filtering single moms from your close ones is useful.

>>81608713
Women, because in a democracy women and simps make up a super majority.

>>81608122 (OP)
There are more non sociopaths than sociopaths but foids go out of their way to breed with these bastards, a single mom is the conclusion of a roastie desiring sociopathic men.

>>81608122 (OP)
I have been friends with a dated a few single mothers. On average, they are unfit to raise a kid. It does seem that many of them just want a kid for selfish reasons and don't really care whom they get knocked up by. As for the difference between single mother outcomes and single father outcomes
> a man's love is sacrificial
> a woman's love is conditional
Women will see their kid(s) as an unwanted burden when the kid(s) become inconvenient.

>>81608130
/thread
same reason a man that has sex with many women is a slayer and a woman that has sex with many men is a whore