Mamdani - /r9k/ (#81620920) [Archived: 709 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:47:09 PM No.81620920
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>Hey im your next mayor of new york
>I want to give you cheaper healthcare, cheaper rent, and cheaper groceries
NOOOO DONT DO THAT
what causes this reaction
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:48:22 PM No.81620927
>>81620920 (OP)
Because it's fake and all he's going to do is defund the police to appeal to shitlibs.
I'm not even conservative by American standards
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:48:34 PM No.81620928
>>81620920 (OP)
rich people don't need any of that for one
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:49:57 PM No.81620937
>>81620920 (OP)
>what causes this reaction
judaism
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:53:50 PM No.81620956
>>81620937
this is the right answer. only jewish people have been freaking out.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:54:36 PM No.81620960
>all this time mayors could give everyone cheaper rent and healthcare, they just chose not to
logic of a 5 year old. i'm truly jealous, i wish i could have this impenetrable innocence
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:58:28 PM No.81620987
Politicians always say that but do the complete opposite.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:09:03 PM No.81621054
>>81620920 (OP)
this is just like that time hitler gave everyone cheap groceries
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:12:53 PM No.81621072
>>81621054
> "Cheap wuddya mean cheap I'm going to call my lawya right this instant it's like anudda holocaust
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:18:25 PM No.81621101
>>81620920 (OP)
What a character! He's gonna find out soon why it's called Jew York.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:05:37 PM No.81621392
>>81620920 (OP)
controlled opposition to world jewry who won a primary
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:07:45 PM No.81621411
>>81620920 (OP)
>I want to let niggers and junkies run free and oh btw I live in a gated community so none of this effects me lol
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:13:27 PM No.81621443
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>>81620920 (OP)
>what causes this reaction
The Cold War conditioned every American born before 1990 to believe that all forms of socialist policy are inherently bad and impossible to even implement. This problem will not be resolved until every generation older than the Millennials are dead.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:26:09 PM No.81621505
>>81620920 (OP)
Imagine being a New Yorker and electing a filthy moslem dune coon as a mayor. After 9/11 no less.
They truly desererve what they get. I've never hated a group of people as much as I hate fucking New Yorkers. I wish death upon them.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:27:19 PM No.81621509
>>81620956
The most jewish neighborhoods mostly voted for him
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:34:53 PM No.81622012
>>81620920 (OP)
Why does everyone care about my city and its mayor all of a sudden?
This has to be some kind of psyop to make you ignore real news that matters.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:50:45 PM No.81622139
>>81621505
Would you rather have a white man who rapes you politically or a brown man who rules in a way that benefits you.

If you say the former you are a cuck and retarded

>Inb4 actually being a cuck is about not being racist!
Nope. Being a cuck is about working against your own interest. Racism is irrelevant
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:55:47 PM No.81622181
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>>81620937
There are more Jews in New York City than in either Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. If Jews didn't like him he wouldn't be getting this many votes.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:07:18 PM No.81622280
>>81620927
fuck the police especially in ny are you nuts that's a whole standing army doing nothing but harassing idiots on the subway trying to jerk off in peace
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:08:25 PM No.81622295
>>81620960
technically they can with laws and things and they do this already
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:12:00 PM No.81622327
>>81622181
Wow, it's almost like when the ruling class is outnumbered by a bunch of retards and they make their minds up it becomes difficult to manipulate them effectively. I'm sure Israel is totally unassailable and everyone loves them right now, which is what the Jews would want...right?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:13:27 PM No.81622336
>>81621443
What if I just think he's a shitty foreigner who wants to let niggers rampage about.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:19:38 PM No.81622388
>>81620920 (OP)
>NOOOO DONT DO THAT
>what causes this reaction
because none of his policies work.
Because, if implemented, they will cause countless small businesses to close down, public spending and debt to rise, his housing plan will lead a ridiculous amount of housing quality problems and, finally, higher taxes.
His policies are retarded, and only bring more misery. That's reason.
It's easy to say that you want everything to be nice and live in a world of sunshine and rainbows, but it doesn't work like that.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:19:41 PM No.81622389
>>81622295
sure they can, by deporting the immigrants
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:21:40 PM No.81622407
>>81622181
that's because of Brooklyn there's a whole different thing over there
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:01:45 PM No.81622777
As a Masshole, I'm kind of happy he won. If his far-left and pro-crime policies cause businesses to flee New York and it becomes an even bigger shithole infested with more illegal aliens, then good, it's what New Yorkers deserve for being terrible people.

If some of his policies work (lol), our politicians will just copy the parts that worked, and we benefit from it.

The MASSter race's plan:
> do nothing
> New York destroys itself
> we win
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:45:59 PM No.81623181
>>81622388
Nigga if ya don't earn 1m$ a year you got nothing to worry about. Given you're here on 4chan jerking on a no-brainer post I take you don't. So go home and fuck your plushie
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:52:14 PM No.81623224
>>81623181
you are very stupid and retarded
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:54:51 PM No.81623248
>>81622777
>TFW New York City is an experimental zone for the rest of the country
LMAO
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:58:36 PM No.81623283
>>81621443
We need to exterminate socialist thought and philosophy from our culture because tankies are always waiting in the wings to purity spiral until everything everywhere is North Korea
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:00:28 PM No.81623309
>>81623224
I'm mentally stable enuff to tell that you're a fat, unemployed and a small dick jew. Also I'm not interested in a conv with your undeveloped brain
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6/26/2025, 7:02:30 PM No.81623331
>>81623283
True. They purged the royals then the Anarchists then the trotskyists and all the way down the line until they were a true dictatorship
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:04:12 PM No.81623344
>>81622388
What if I want New York to go bankrupt
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:04:26 PM No.81623348
>>81623309
Stop trying to reverse psychology bait me into seeing my cock. you tranny faggot.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:05:51 PM No.81623368
>>81620920 (OP)
In New York, the cost of living is too high and the only solution is to raise the tax rates on the wealthiest people to pay for easing the burden placed on the bottom rung of society. That doesn't mean those people won't have to work -- it means that they will have the ability to live in New York as an unskilled laborer working 40 hours a week without living in poverty.

Everyone knows this except conservacucks that live in farmville states where the cost of living isn't over three times the national average.

>inb4 capital flight
Embarrassing levels of delusion. And the rate that Mamdank was talking about is 2%.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:08:47 PM No.81623407
>>81623368
>raise the tax rates on the wealthiest people to pay for easing the burden placed on the bottom rung

What do you do if the majority of the wealthiest people move away? Who pays for it then?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:11:53 PM No.81623444
>>81623407
NY is a land bank for rich fags they don't live there they want to hold property there
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:12:45 PM No.81623454
>>81620920 (OP)
minimum wage of $30 is not giving anyone cheaper groceries
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:14:45 PM No.81623480
>>81623368
>"Embarrassing levels of delusion."
This.
People think the economy is as simple as that.

A large economy like NYC is not worth it to just pull out of, with his taxes applied it would still be very profitable to do business in there.

For capital flight to happen it would actually have to be unprofitable to exist, which is obviously not what will happen.

Not to forget that if you are absolutely certain to get obliterated by a 2% change, you are probably bad at business.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:15:40 PM No.81623492
Do.... do you people in this thread really think these policies will result in the outcomes they claim to achieve?

>>81620960
We should just give everyone infinite money so no one is poor and everyone is happy.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:16:26 PM No.81623504
>>81623407
Whoops, taxes increased by like a little bit, time to sell off ALL ASSETS I HAVE.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:18:07 PM No.81623529
>>81623368
cost of living is mostly rent, the solution is housing abundance a la tokyo (an actually affordable and thriving city). soaking the rich isn't gonna plug that hole.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:18:20 PM No.81623531
>>81620920 (OP)
The idea that someone who has had a thought that "Queer liberation means defund the police" will be anything other than disastrous is funny to me.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:19:11 PM No.81623543
>>81623492
Tbf, no one here knows how money works!

Those who say it will obliterate nyc are just as clueless about the economy as those who say it will turn the city into a communist's dream
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:19:20 PM No.81623546
>>81623504
not all assets, no. some assets? absolutely.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:22:58 PM No.81623586
>>81623546
Yea absolutely some assets will be sold, but some definitely not brainwashed people are thinking he will make everyone sell everything :/
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:27:32 PM No.81623623
>>81620920 (OP)
short term will be fine and even fun. long term will be a disaster rivaling history in its epic proportions. Do you even know the basics of where socialism leads? read any history book, read any dystopian novel, hell just sit there with a pen and pad and try to make up yourself were the future of society leads with socialism.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:28:06 PM No.81623627
What does the mayor of NY actually do?
I can't imagine they can unilaterally do any of that. Didn't it take years of effort to introduce a congestion charge basically everyone wanted?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:29:09 PM No.81623642
>>81623368
You fucking retard.
The top percentages of society, which you whine about so much, don't have enough money to support everyone else. And, through these policies, they won't feel much of a change.
You know who will feel it?
The business that 1 store open, whose margins are already somewhat low, that is now forced to hike up prices because the new tax changes eat up a good chunk of his revenue. These taxes also fund his difect competition, in the form of "city run grocery stores" which sell products at a very cheap rate, possibly below costs, which is illegal for every other business, because they are funded by literally an infinite source of money (taxes).
So now, this guy has to close off his business, not only because of the "sMaLl 2% tAx iNcReAsE", but because the entire sector is no longer competitively viable.
The city will have to now hire more people to work at these public stores, making it so the proportion of the population who works for the government grows. So more and more people are dependent on government money. I bet that these public groceries stores will buy their produce from government run place, or will be forced to buy them out because later on they won't be able to afford private sector prices. Leading to a necessity of vertical integration by the government. Which will then lead to the need to print more money to stimulate the economy in the short term, which will end up causing inflation.


All the meanwhile, the bug companies don't really give a fuck about this increase, but seeing as there are possibly better oportunities elsewhere, they can just leave NYC for somewhere with higher margins. There's such thing as "oportunity cost", just because NYC is profitable, it doesn't mean it's the best use of your money.

None of these policies have EVER worked. They only cause mjsery and retards like you are guilty for all the problems that will come to NYC.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:29:13 PM No.81623645
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>>81621443
I don't get this argument since Cold War hawks like Nixon and Eisenhower supported higher minimum wages and cheaper healthcare.
>>81620920 (OP)
>>81620927
>>81621411
>>81623531
>Queer liberation
This part is what gets me. I wish there was a socially conservative leftist politician.
>Less immigration
>More deportations
>Gut H1-B system
>Ban abortion past 6 weeks
>No gay marriage or adoption
>Medical pot should be legal, recreational should be illegal (albeit with lower penalties, same goes for all soft drugs)

>Supports free healthcare
>Supports state funded housing and education
>More taxes on corporations, tax the corporate overlords to the ground
>Redistribute wealth
>Pro worker's rights
>Encourage employee ownership
>A thriving welfare state
>More restrictions on corporations to gut the influence of the hypercapitalists (taxes on hedge funds, restrictions on mergers etc)


These corporations are no friend of any social conservative. They want immigrants so that they can stiff native workers. They would rather a woman get an abortion than pay for her maternity leave. They're willing to normalize sodomy and transsexuality just to get more cash in their pockets.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:30:22 PM No.81623653
>>81623623
>socialism bad because of fictional novels and because of attempts that the united states fucked up
interesting take, where do you learn history?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:32:18 PM No.81623677
>>81623653
>communism didnt work because we didnt do it right
>this time will be different

LOL, LMAO even. the liberal faggot response everytime
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:34:31 PM No.81623704
Enjoy your sharia compliant shit hole, kaffir child.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:35:18 PM No.81623711
>>81623677
>I know how to do it better than them!
>if they listened to me, it'd work!
>>81623645
Literally all of the issues you mentioned, like free healthcare, cheaper housing, higher wages, etc. are all a problem in the US because of government involvement.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:36:22 PM No.81623723
>>81623642
>None of these policies have EVER worked. They only cause mjsery and retards like you are guilty for all the problems that will come to NYC.

Do you have historical evidence of this? Or is this simply your anecdotal experience
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:39:07 PM No.81623748
>>81623723
Yes.
Chile, the place where the 1st ever democratically elected socialist came to power. It lead to the worst period in their history. And all the myriad of examples kn which these policies have already been tried and have failed.
Logic and economic theory also disprove their efficacy.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:41:23 PM No.81623775
>>81623677
whether communism works or not, you still need to get why it didn't work in those cases.

if you refuse to accept that the attempts at communism failed because of dictators or because of the glowies, youre never going to have more than a surface level view on anything.

i dont think communism will work but atleast i think about why, and you dont.

grow a fucking brain, obviously everyone else believes this position is full of retarded closet faggots
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:43:15 PM No.81623802
>>81623748
We should pick a more convincing example here, that's one of those that got a coup funded in
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:46:07 PM No.81623838
>>81623775
No, you dumbass. You portray yourself a deeper thinker, but your analysis is extremely shallow and generic.
Communism and it's structure, socialism, rather, leads to the necessity of a dictator-like figure. It NEEDS a regime like that to even be implemented in anything that isn't a very small community.
Outside intervantionism is also retarded, and proof of why it can never work. Communism and socialism can ONLY work if the entire world, at every level embraces it. Vertical integration on every sector is indispensable.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:46:59 PM No.81623855
>>81623775
there will always be a rise of a dictator if you think there wont youre clueless naive and ignorant to the ways of human social dynamics. also you're not even a fraction as smart or level headed as you think you are. your post reeks of arrogance and holier than thou reddit tranny incel " well uhh acskhually" tips fedora
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:48:59 PM No.81623880
>>81623775
humans are not perfect robots. there will never be a perfect utopia because humans are flawed.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:49:37 PM No.81623891
>>81623802
The coup only happened 3 years after the country had already implemented a massive amount of socialist policies. You have no clue what you are talking about.
There are factors that lead to the sentiment that a coup was necessary in the first place. A coup, which later gave back power democratically, and thanks to it's policies, the country became the most successful nation in the entire region.
Argentina, on the other hand, also had leftist policies be implemented in recent times and it only made things worse.
Thanks to their current president, they are projected to have an inflation rate of 0% in 2026, and the quality of life is rapidly improving.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:58:20 PM No.81624001
>>81620920 (OP)
it'll be fun to see what happens, but my bet is on absolutely fucking nothing changing for the common working man, as is always the case. why would anybody give any credibility to the flavor of the month democrats promises
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:00:29 PM No.81624027
>>81624001
Democrats wanted him to lose
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:04:03 PM No.81624079
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>>81623642
>They don't have the money
They do.
>It won't work
We'll see.
>Small businesses
In New York? Have you even been there in the last few years?

The government of New York is corrupt to the core. Things need to change, and Mamdani had a vision for change. If it fails spectacularly and everyone suffers for it, then it'll still be better than the status quo -- it's really bad right now.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:08:38 PM No.81624140
>>81624001
I don't think he has enough power to do everything. The public grocery stores will require to make deals with the private sector if they want to survive.
When a leftist politician gets elected only 1/2 things happen.
>he gets to power and realizes that all his promises and policies can't actually be implemented, leading to broken promises and half-hearted attempts at delivering, that make it so the voters feel betrayed and the politician loses all his fame
Or
>he goes ahead and implements all his policies without care for the signs the they don't work. Things get worse and the public suffers, but blame him for the failures of the policies or outside factors. He is forced to either seize power or leave.
Given this is just a mayor, I don't think anything will change. Few housing units will be built and the grocery stores will be a disaster.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:10:20 PM No.81624161
>>81624079
>it's really bad right now.
Because it's a blue city lmao
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:11:28 PM No.81624177
well i'm guessing it's because they want unlimited of it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:12:20 PM No.81624189
>>81624161
Deep red states like Alabama and Mississippi are utter shitholes in comparison
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:13:47 PM No.81624206
>>81624079
>The government of New York is corrupt to the core.
Exactly. Corruption is inevitable due to human nature. You can't trust people in power to not be corrupt, if not the current ones, the ones that will come next. Therefore the solution is to make it so that the people hold significant power of their own, freedom of choices outside of the government aparatus.
The wider the reach of the government, the wider the reach of said corruption.
The role of the government should only be to ensure basic standards, and to uphold the laws that let the public exercise their freedoms.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:18:05 PM No.81624251
RENT CONTROL!??????!?!!!

S H U T I T D O W N
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:21:12 PM No.81624291
>>81624251
Rent control leads to land owners not being able to afford the prices of repairs. Which leads to them not being able to rent out the places. Which makes it so there's less housing available. Which leads to higher pricing for currently available housing.
Price control doesn't work.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:26:35 PM No.81624342
>>81620920 (OP)
>what causes this reaction
Knowledge of basic economics and ability to perceive second order effects.
NY obviously needs all that, but this commie schizo will make the situation worse
E.g rent control disincentivises new construction and renovation, thus reducing housing supply.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:29:46 PM No.81624373
>>81624206
You are right in your premises, but your conclusion is flawed. With too much personal freedom, the personal freedom of others is compromised.
If private interests own and monetize a significant amount of the infrastructure of our society, then our society will gradually devolve into feudalism. We already live in that reality. There is no easy solution. It is a constant balancing act and we are on a tipped scale right now.

Mamdani represents a change for the better. The best evidence is how Ackman is promising to payroll anyone that can beat Mamdani. If big money isn't afraid, then why are they scrambling?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:30:38 PM No.81624391
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He won't do any of that and you know it.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:33:17 PM No.81624422
>>81624342
>New York needs new houses
Brainwashed. Mass ownership of real-estate by private interests is the problem. There are plenty of houses, just not enough money to pay the landlords who make bank on having empty apartments. The system is broken -- that's the problem.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:37:01 PM No.81624467
>>81621411
Are you talking about Mamdani or are you talking the Goy Cuomo? That faggot hasn't lived in NYC since 1990
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:47:35 PM No.81624567
>>81624189
Because they have the biggest black populations by percentage in the USA

Always convinient how you leave that out
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:49:58 PM No.81624592
>>81624567
Ive lived in quite a few small rural towns in those states. Red necks are trashy people too
I dont think you travel much
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:51:42 PM No.81624607
>>81624592
Don't need to. We have this thing called the "Internet". Poor whites still comitt less crimes than rich niggers. Cope all you want, society will collapse because of non-white subhumans.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:54:21 PM No.81624624
Basement Bodybuilding
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Man some of you are unironically actually retarded.

Good window into why /r9k/ is such a low quality board. Total subhumans inhabit it.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:58:17 PM No.81624663
>>81624624
Least we're not fags like you with that shit saved to your computer.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:23:25 PM No.81624958
>>81624206
Basis of Road to Serfdom for dummies.
Well condensed.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:32:44 PM No.81625069
crossing state borders to trigger commies
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>>81624373
>With too much personal freedom, the personal freedom of others is compromised.
>If private interests own and monetize a significant amount of the infrastructure of our society, then our society will gradually devolve into feudalism. We already live in that reality.
And your solution is to put feudal kings above all citizens and pretend that he will act in peoples interests
Lulz.

You know high medieval and renaissance feudalism wasn't that bad. Do you know why? Because feudal fracture . Lords powers was only 50 miles around. Yuu get into quarrel with a Lord? Just cross taste borners and that Lord can on seethe when you live under other Lord.
Free market of Lords.
In my opinion extreme division of Europe is what kickstarted scientific progress and industrial revolution. Because Lords power was limted and small but smart people could earn what they deserve by fleeing from one Lord to another. No such was possible in Asian despotic large states and these states produced nothing.
Communism by design requires state wide universal despotism, otherwise people just flee across border from your collectivization.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:34:48 PM No.81625095
>>81624342
>>81624422
That is basic economic literacy failure.
Solution is not rent control.
Solution is taxing by 30% property tax every residential property besides personal use.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:44:40 PM No.81625225
ow the edge
ow the edge
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>>81624607
>Don't need to
retard
>We have this thing called the "Internet"
you only use it to watch porn
>Poor whites still comitt less crimes than rich niggers
pulled that out of your ass instead of pulling out your anal beads
>Cope all you want, society will collapse because of non-white subhumans
You are fat and balding and the weight you've lifted is your stomach fat in order to see where you're pissing. You are not the paragon of the white race and you demean us to everyone else you mongoloid fuck
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:46:39 PM No.81625250
>>81625069
>feudalism wasn't that bad
stopped reading right there, gtfo kike
and no communism isn't better
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:50:32 PM No.81625303
>>81625250
City folks in high medieval and renaissance feudalism: craftsman, artisans, scientists unironically had more freedoms than soviet citizens. Let this sink in for while.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:54:39 PM No.81625356
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>>81625303
I DON'T CARE WHO THE MOSSAD SENDS I AM NOT ACCEPTING NEO-FEUDALISM
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:11:22 PM No.81625554
>>81624607
You have a very sad and pathetic life
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:12:58 PM No.81625582
>>81620920 (OP)
look man if you are seriously this clueless to all the games politicians are playing today and how blatantly obvious their scams are then the only way you're going to benefit enough to become equipped for real life adult conversation is by lurking, not posting.
probably for 20 years.
you are very far behind and it's not your fault, there's just a huge information war going on and your ass is caught up in the mix.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:20:19 PM No.81625686
>>81625303
>meanwhile 90% of the population are starving serfs
kys kike
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:01:33 PM No.81626251
>>81622389
literally all they need to do to make rent prices cheaper. instantly raises supply way more than demand. but no we need immigrants because uhhhh
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:03:26 PM No.81626274
>>81625095
That's a good idea. It really is. We need more good ideas. I'm not saying that Mamdani is perfect and his policies will revolutionize New York, but it is a step away from the status quo and an honest attempt to fix the problem. Every other "solution" was co-opted by the people capitalizing on the problem, like the tax incentive to have empty lots (remarkably stupid idea).
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:09:22 PM No.81626354
>>81623529
this is the answer. solve for housing and literally every other problem gets solved. liberals dont talk about this because the way to create housing abundance is literally to just deport immigrants. thats all you have to do to get housing abundance over night.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:20:52 PM No.81626496
voting
voting
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>>81620920 (OP)
Rightoid kneejerk reaction is what causes it.

Unfortunately for them Trump administration has been such an unmitigated disaster that you are going to see even more candidates like him sweeping in as the pendulum swings back.

Always remember that there are more people who just straight up don't vote than there are diehards who always vote for their party. And those non-voters can be swayed to spite vote if you fuck up bad enough.

In this case people are tired of Establishment candidates Andrew Cuomo and Eric Leroy (Jenkins) Adams.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:24:22 PM No.81626540
>>81621443
I was born in 1989 and I like socialism
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:26:11 PM No.81626565
Table2
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>>81626354
How come with the current deportations housing prices haven't gotten more affordable?

How does deporting the immigrants stop corporations from purchasing single family homes?

And if immigrants are doing all the low paying jobs how are they the ones purchasing all the homes? Do you have examples of banks giving them mortgages to do so without verifiable employment histories or social security cards, or bank accounts?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:29:16 PM No.81626596
>>81626565
>single family homes
illegal immigrants are 9 out of 10 renters retard
they put extreme pressure on LOW INCOME housing which is supposed to be available and affordable but literally can't be because of them
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:30:59 PM No.81626617
>>81624467
Talking about both but this arab fag just has the standard stack of libtard luxury beliefs in the current year.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:32:32 PM No.81626636
>>81626596
>n-noooo you can't imply the holy brown immigrant increases rent due to increased demand or lowers wages due to a glut of labor
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:33:16 PM No.81626647
>>81620920 (OP)
Lol none of that will happen
Zoomers lefties are so stupid
But I do hope he burns the city to the ground
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:33:51 PM No.81626658
>>81626354
Tokyo is not New York. New York has plenty of empty places. The problem is that real-estate is a business here. The Cuomo administration's "solutions" were carefully crafted to make everything worse to benefit the real-estate investors.

Deporting people doesn't fix anything you mongrel. It doesn't fix anything at all. Our country doesn't even have enough people to maintain growth. Housing abundance is not how you fix this, there are already enough houses. Even if we had too many people, deporting them would be a ridiculously half-witted idea. They help! Believe it or not, but people almost always contribute more to an economy than they take. The exceptions are obvious, murderers and hedge fund managers. Not even petty thieves hurt the economy enough to balance out the work they do, even if they deserve to have their fingers cut off.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:39:21 PM No.81626727
>>81626658
Tokyo doesn't have the level of immigration that any major city in the US does, and deporting 80 IQ brownoids in fact does improve things since those people are a net drain.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:44:41 PM No.81626792
>>81624373
>With too much personal freedom, the personal freedom of others is compromised.
the solution is cultural.
Ideally, there's enough conscious cohesion that people willingly choose to uphold traditional values. Forcing this cohesion doesn't work, because those who are alienated from the norm will destroy it from within. j
>If private interests own and monetize a significant amount of the infrastructure of our society...
This can be achieved through policies that incentivize investment and the creation of value. Not by the Government becoming the feudal lord. You are also assuming an oligopoly, which can be broken up in other, more effective ways. "Private" doesn't necessarily mean big companies. The ones that will be negatively affected the most aren't the massive real estate companies, but the people who have 2-3 places.
As I said, socialism necessitates complete integration of the system, or it's unsustainable (only one reason why it's unsustainable) it requires a monopoly.
>If big money isn't afraid, then why are they scrambling?
I think that this is a weak argument. There are many reasons why someone wouldn't want Mamdani to lead. It's only an assumption that supports your point that you are making here.
>>81624422
>make bank.
they don't. renting them out isn't profitable.
neither is selling because the repairs needed drive the price down.
One thing that you could argue for is "crowd funded" housing, in which housing projects are funded like an anonymous enterprise, made up of many small investors, which makes it so it's necessary to charge the highest price possible so you can reimburse the investors. However, this is also a pretty good way to develop housing projects, without it, housing availability would go down. But it's something to be addressed nonetheless. Overall inflation is also a problem that drives up rent prices.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:48:12 PM No.81626838
>>81626658
nothing you said countered my argument at all and the math is extremely simple
>limited supply of low income housing
>dumps in millions of extra people to compete for it
>result: even less low income housing available as demand skyrockets and prices spike
what happens is illegals come in to a city work for less pay taking away jobs and undercutting everyone elses pay then live several people to a single room and split the rent 8 ways undercutting everyone who isn't willing to live that way. this is exactly why cesar chavez HATED illegal immigrants. look up why leftist heroes like coretta scott king, rosa parks, and cesar chavez were strongly AGAINST illegal immigrants but you won't do that because you're a simple retard with a working knowledge of history of a goldfish arent you?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:49:22 PM No.81626857
>>81626596
Lol kinda undermined your own point there junior

>>81623642
>paying taxes = completely paying for the entire existence of someone else to the point they dont have to work
Anon when you are ready to converse like an adult instead of a teenage girl throwing around wild exaggerations we can continue.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:52:53 PM No.81626906
>>81626857
>Lol kinda undermined your own point
I didn't undermine shit the point I made is correct you fucking idiot
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:55:49 PM No.81626947
>>81626857
>Anon when you are ready to converse like an adult
look at fucking idiot tapping out
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:01:17 AM No.81627025
>>81626857
>Anon when you are ready to converse like an adult instead of a teenage girl throwing around wild exaggerations we can continue.
I had forgot that I wrote that reply, because I was busy doing something else.
I didn't even recognize that you were replying to me, initially, because you didn't quote anything that I said.
I mean to say that you aren't arguing with anything I said. I did not say that they don't have to work. I didn't say that their entire existence would be free of labor or paid by someone else.
I was making a case for the dependency on government as it expands and creates a monopoly taking away people's freedoms. And how these things also disincentivize outside investments, thus leading to a need for an injection of capital from somewhere to sustain the economy, given that, for the reasons already established, that model can't sustain itself, thus requiring the creation of money, devaluing the local currency and leading to inflation.

The best counterargument you can make to this is the fact that the current system works in the short term, but then leads to the creation of oligopolies, which also restrict freedoms.
Instead, you chose to interpret what I said in the most retarded way possible and then insult me.
You're a fucking clown. lmao
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:21:55 AM No.81627279
>>81624958
I did know about Hayek, but I didn't know that this was the title of his book. Or that it was related to this. But it makes sense since it's kind of the basis for classical liberalism.
After doing a Google search, I agree with him in his criticism of Friedman's positive view of the ability of the market to correct itself and the flaws of "big picture" analysis.
I honestly don't know how to fix it though. My guess is to somehow incentivize the development of competitors within a locality. As this would keep oligopolies in check. But I have no idea how to do that, in terms of policy.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:58:26 AM No.81627645
>>81626792
>the solution is cultural
We cannot guilt the rich into stimulating markets. They have always, and likely will always uphold oppressive structures and pass them onto their children. Still, you are right that the solution is cultural. Nothing we do exists outside of culture.
>...policies that incentivize investment and the creation of value. Not by the Government becoming the feudal lord.
I agree. Yet, policies cannot be binding without power. I hold to the Nordic model of democratic socialism that uses democracy to determine how to use public funds to help everyone. Those funds can be used to prevent feudal power dynamics in public infrastructure. Full integration is dangerous for reasons you already know.
>...weak argument
You are right. That one was a weak argument, but it is compelling for people that only listen to anecdotes and quips.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:18:00 AM No.81628437
>>81620960
Your post sounds right, but then I remember the video where all the mayor candidates were asked where they would first visit and almost all of them said Israel. Really makes it seem like, yes, the people in their jurisdiction are not their priority.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:20:04 AM No.81628459
>>81620920 (OP)
This shitskin should be deported immediately