Thread 81629247

OnlyFans is peak capitalism. Can you really blame women for doing it?

I wish /r9k/ was a blue board, it would be improved massively

>>81629247 (OP)
I have no problem with women doing it.
My only complaint is that any men would pay money for that sort of thing when there's already infinite free internet porn.
It's like people who pay for netflix when every TV show and movie is already freely available on the internet.
I have the urge to strangle people who do that, but somehow there are hundreds of millions of people doing that.

>>81629247 (OP)
Yes, I can. It's not so much that I am judging the ones who do it but rather impressed and inspired by the ones who don't.

>>81629267
Why not simply take things a step further by banning images/gifs/webms/MP4s and make it text-only?

>>81629267
It's called /lgbt/.

>>81629247 (OP)
in hindsight.capitlism was like a curse placed on th world. It's like some ritual was performed creating this unstopable self-perpetuating mind plague that destroyed all identity, mystery, meaning, the commodification of everything you were supposed to enjoy about life.

>>81629267
That's just a darn shame, isn't it?

>stanleylsd
i often wonder what it would have been like to be born beautiful...

>stanleylsd
i have a face like a can of smashed assholes...

>stanleylsd
i have a sparkling personality tho... so they tolerate me around these parts...


Chaturbate is blackpilling

>>81629247 (OP)
sure, I'd do it. I would be amazing at custom sph content and I would do lesbian collabs, and maybe peg some femboys and twinks.

I don't blame them, it doesn't bother me. Only misandr*st women seem to have a problem with it, you know the same women who wanted to keep men away from themselves in the first place. Don't even ask me.

>>81629247 (OP)
Imagine tonguing her anus

>>81629247 (OP)
desu the more times goes on with this onlyfans stuff the more I think it is like a growing cancer. It is like unaddressed death spiral for us as a species

>>81629247 (OP)
I mean retard pay them just to see their boobies

then capitalism is not that good

>>81629247 (OP)
No but i can commend them for it.

>>81629247 (OP)
not really. i blame men more for perpetuating it. i'm 34 and truly cannot fathom why you'd give money this. i understand some of these girls are literal pornstars who quit porn to just do OF? is it like a moneygiving fetish and/or just extreme loneliness? like giving money gets you attention or special messages from them? thanks

>>81629247 (OP)
Man who the fuck else would you blame but the person who does it? Stop overcomplicating everything.

>>81629247 (OP)
Women are not the ones donating on cam sites and buying onlyfans. The consumer market is mostly men.I blame men.

>>81629247 (OP)
i dont blame women, whores will be whores, i blame men who really pay for this shit

>>81633292
Yeah blame the consumer, good bootlicker

>>81632653
To connect and chat with the girls and to create new porn?

>>81633376
why not?
wouldn't you do the same if girls made you billionaire doing it?
so one party has to resist making the easiest money, ever?
the other has to stop donating a percentage of their paycheck to them every month

>>81633386
can you really connect with them, chat, and make new porn just by subscribing? i dont see how thats possible unless she has 5 subs

>>81633478
i always pictured most of the userbase the same people who mindlessly sub to 3-4 streaming services they barely use. who also complain about said streaming services

>>81633478
You can buy their porn which might be hard to find at other places. Many of them also allow for new customized porn and will chat or interact with most customers in one way or another. The market is oversaturated with these girls.

>>81633412
The consumer have no real power. They aren't creating the product, selling the product, setting up the platform or facilitating the trade. That's on the girls and the companies offering these services.

>>81629247 (OP)
I imagine a significant number of fembots have tried it, seen no success and deleted their accounts in embarrassment.

>>81634003
it's all on the girls? would you concede that consumers at least help co-create it?
it seems weird to say the consumer has no real power when it literally wouldn't exist without the consumer?

>>81634581
Would you say that drug addicts and dealers are morally equivalent?

>>81629247 (OP)
>Can you really blame women for doing it?
It's another "we can't hold women accountable for their behaviour it's always something else to blame" post
Fuck off, yes of course we can. I do not care what you try to blame, it is womens fault entirely
>noo can you really blame drug dealers
Sure can, and we can lock them the fuck up too because actively trying to maintain a healthy society is shockingly important to not end up in the atrocious state the western world is now in, who would have guessed

>>81634653
i dont think this is a great analogy. onlyfans consumers are not addicts in the same way drug addicts are. if anything probably some of the women are the "addicts" in your analogy and the buyer holds much more power. as mentioned i barely understand why even buy to begin with when there are infinite amounts of it online
>>81634658
>Sure can, and we can lock them the fuck up too because actively trying to maintain a healthy society is shockingly important to not end up in the atrocious state the western world is now in, who would have guessed
ignore it and ban it? i'm sure black markets wont pop up literally immediately to fill consumer demand and cause much more net harm.
>it's womens fault entirely
you remind me a lot of men in certain other cultures

>>81629247 (OP)
Im a drawfag, also im degenerate.
Ive tried to draw porn, just to check if I could do it. Nothing tame, nothing to harcore.
I did it and it was nice but I just felt.. bad, maybe dirty is a wrong word (hell, the stuff ive drew was like cartoon to R rated media in comparison to what ive consumed in past) but it just felt weird.
I stored it deep and showed in only to my gf.
I think theres nothing wrong with doing this stuff if youre ok with yourself, but doing this stuff for money is just prostitution. The lower class stigma will be always present, liberal people will say its ok, but deep down even them will think that youre trash tier.
So deepdown i think those kind of people are spineless and i wouldnt consort with them, but if it works for them why should I try to change them or prostest? If you make quality porn, just dont be obnoxious about it (most OF is tho).

god damn women dressing provocatively and getting me hard! i had to pay for their content to see more and cum to it! i wouldn't have made this poor choice if i didn't even have a choice to begin with therefore it's 100% the womens fault! they should be punished and we should ban this filth!!!
(until i'm horny again and will have to get it illegally)

>>81634742
i'm not sure what i mean by more net harm here specifically though. i just thought of historical similar patterns.
there is still something appealing about onlyfans that i just dont get, i guess it's the more direct ""connection"" with the women that is so appealing. indicating a bigger more systemic issue. in any case i dont think banning onlyfans is a good option as its just a symptom of something else and would be replaced

>>81629247 (OP)
I already accepted that men are incredibly flawed, learning to accept that women are equally fucked up takes time.

>>81629291
Wouldn't be against that, at least mp4s.
Mp4s became an excuse for people to post tiktok shit here.

>>81633386
I tried chatting with the one girl I ever subbed to on OF and after replying once she didn't say anything for a month so I ended my sub.

>>81634581
>it's all on the girls?
No but it's mainly the girls and those who host the websites. I'm supportive of these platforms and the girls by the way so i don't really mind. If anyone wants to be involved in the industry, that should be their right. But when there's a discussion about it being a problem, i've never seen how it makes sense to primarily or only blame the consumers when that's the weakest link in the chain.

>>81635225
What a bitch. But hey at least she didn't hire some guy to do the job pretending to be her

>>81633478
No, you have to pay additional money for content which is pre-made most of the time. Onlyfans stars hire people to chat in their stead.

>>81635777
i had to light a cig when i read this

>>81635511
well like i said it wouldn't exist without the consumers so i dont understand how they are the weakest link in the chain. if onlyfans went away somehow the vacuum left behind would be filled by consumer demand quickly. i'm not sure how to divide blame exactly but it cant be mostly or entirely the girls. they are heavily incentivized to do it when lonely men make it so very easy for them. they go on there and show their cunt and cucks make them multimillionaires in this economy. but they should stop receiving free money from men instead of men holding themselves to such low standards?

>>81636871
instead of men holding themselves to higher standards*

>>81636871
Again, they have the power and can choose who to serve and whether they want to provide the service at all. The male customers may put up the money and encourage more women to start if it pays well but simply having money is not a certainty if there's no one on the other side actively willing to provide the service with the support of a regulated platform. The threshold to sell is also MUCH higher than the threshold to buy. Setting up an account, providing legal documents, doing PR, building up a name for yourself, getting in shape and finding a proper niche etc to be able to sell requires a lot of skill and dedication. Guys show up to pay at the latest stage.

>>81632653
I'm deeply ashamed to admit I fell for the findom meme once. Never again. It's such a fucking garbage fetish. Even calling it a fetish is an insult to fetishes. It's basically just a bunch of narcissistic, sociopathic, sadistic women exploiting lonely men for their money in the most retarded way possible. It works for some of them because some men are hardcore masochists who do it as a form of ritualistic self-harm. There is no justification for it beyond self-harm. It's like cutting yourself. I think that self-harm is exciting for some people because it generates a rush of adrenaline since your body reacts to the danger. I think stimulants like caffeine and cocaine act the same way if I'm not mistaken.

I wouldn't mind but they usually scam their customers by hiring agencies to do their work for them

>>81637559
>Again, they have the power and can choose who to serve and whether they want to provide the service at all
but men have the same power to decide not to donate a portion of their paycheck to porn.. sometimes probably even more power, how do we know many of the girls dont feel trapped and 'forced' to do it due to their life situations and how lucrative it is.
and i think you're exaggerating the threshold thing. it doesn't seem like a whole lot of work, the doing pr, building name and getting in shape could be completely irrelevant for many and even if it isnt, its extremely good value for time spent vs being a hairdresser or whatever

>>81637834
>but men have the same power to decide not to donate a portion of their paycheck to porn
A lot of people aren't paying for it and mock those who do. Whenever the topic comes up everyone asks "why would you ever pay for porn when it's free"? And for those who do pay, why wouldn't they if someone genuinely wanted to provide the service?
>how do we know many of the girls dont feel trapped and 'forced' to do it due to their life situations and how lucrative it is.
Because that's one of the most discussed issues, it's highly regulated and illegal and thoroughly accounted for on all of these platforms. Any scandal would be devastating. Just look at pornhub nearly getting bankrupted and defamed because they didn't act quick enough to remove content that criminals uploaded seemingly without their knowledge. No company wants that negative press and takes steps to avoid it.
>it doesn't seem like a whole lot of work
I assume you haven't got much experience in the adult industry then? Once you get in and become known it's not that hard work compared to physical labor, sure, but it takes a while to get there and you can't just start doing it out of nowhere or anonymously. It's at least much harder to do so and requires preparation. No one does it on an impulse.

>>81638019
>And for those who do pay, why wouldn't they if someone genuinely wanted to provide the service?
the service of selling porn/onlyfans content? well because as you say there are practically infinite free amounts of it (you cant consume it faster than it's being produced). it's not like the only source is being gatekept behind unreasonable amounts of money
Because that's one of the most discussed issues, it's highly regulated and illegal and thoroughly accounted for on all of these platforms. Any scandal would be devastating. Just look at pornhub nearly getting bankrupted and defamed because they didn't act quick enough to remove content that criminals uploaded seemingly without their knowledge. No company wants that negative press and takes steps to avoid it.
right but that seems different to decentralized platforms like chaturbate and onlyfans where anyone can sign up anytime and start creating content.
>you can't just start doing it out of nowhere or anonymously
you almost can though, or can, on the sites mentioned

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>>81638019
>>81638839
>And for those who do pay, why wouldn't they if someone genuinely wanted to provide the service?
the service of selling porn/onlyfans content? well because as you say there are practically infinite free amounts of it (you cant consume it faster than it's being produced). it's not like the only source is being gatekept behind unreasonable amounts of money
>Because that's one of the most discussed issues, it's highly regulated and illegal and thoroughly accounted for on all of these platforms. Any scandal would be devastating. Just look at pornhub nearly getting bankrupted and defamed because they didn't act quick enough to remove content that criminals uploaded seemingly without their knowledge. No company wants that negative press and takes steps to avoid it.
right but that seems different to decentralized platforms like chaturbate and onlyfans where anyone can sign up anytime and start creating content.
>you can't just start doing it out of nowhere or anonymously
you almost can though, or can, on the sites mentioned

>>81630403
Who is she? Whats her user?

I draw furry femboys and do findom for cash, which is worse, me or OF models?

>>81629247 (OP)
i just can't believe anyone is actually paying for porn. I've never paid a cent for it. I assume it's a giant money laundering operation

her pussy looks like a disgusting hole

>>81629247 (OP)
If anons suddenly got hot you'd do the same desu

>>81638977
You are definitely lowering the quality of society, that's for sure.

>>81633312
It's this, really. Can't sell if nobody's buying.