>Leftists: "Sexualizing of women bad!
>Also leftists: "Banning porn bad!"
MAKE UP YOUR MIND, YOU FUCKING PORN ADDICTS!

The "nazis" don't even ban porn. They just ask for ID verification at porn sites so minors won't visit said sites

>>81659156 (OP)
It's empowering when women do it, it's sexist when men look at it

>>81659156 (OP)
Left troons want to ban porn because it hurts foids fee-fees that they don't have an unrestricted control freak monopoly on men's sexual relief.

>>81659161
No it's so that way the people get used to having everything they do online being attached to their real name and the first step to a social credit system. Imagine all your shitposts here were under your real goverment name, I bet you wouldn't have made 90% of them. They want the end to anonymity on the internet and the supposedly anti-censorship republicans will eat it up as long as you 'it's for da chilren!'

>>81659156 (OP)
Porn-stars voluntarily consent to their sexualization in that specific context.

>>81659194
Calm down, coomer. Just stop visiting normies porn sites.

>>81659210
Lots of OnlyFans hoes have their boyfriends as their pimps

>>81659161
They should. Porn is a Jewish industry.

>>81659156 (OP)
It's really simple:
Women showing sexuality <-- empowering
Men showing sexuality <--- Bad

>>81659194
That would be a good thing. Society has fallen because no one has any accountability. If you had to attach your name and face to anything you did online, the world would instantly become better.

>>81659156 (OP)
Right was also the libertarian free speech side until they got into power, this isn't really a right vs. left issue.

>>81659156 (OP)
they seem to want little restriction but also that people are responsible enough to not abuse those freedoms
just reading your quotes
idk if that's realistic though, maybe some filters or safety nets need to be in place

>>81659249
Porn exists way before Jews, retard. Jews just own all porn companies in USA and they use porn to push their Jewish agendas.

>>81659350
Lol, no it didnt. You only think that because history books are all written by Jews. There is no history. The world is barely 500 years old.

>>81659289
Women getting throatfucked by abusechad until they puke = empowering
incels watching it = bad

Banning porn just means hopeless boomers give their personalized fetish knowledge straight to the feds, while (pre-)teens just download a VPN in 30 seconds and look at any porn imaginable, or they just wack it to the endless content of young girls shaking their asses/tits on tiktok/IG anyway.
It's hopelessly useless even if you think the dozen or so straight men in the world who don't look at porn have magic powers.

>>81659350
Jews have always been in control of porn and other smut. That's why they would not allow their pet politicians to restrict access to it and get them hooked like the zoomers are now unless there was a good reason like the removal of anonymity from the internet.

>>81659350
You're being pedantic. When someone discusses porn, they're not talking about ancient cave drawings. They're talking about the modern porn industry, which is Jewish.

>>81659306
>If you had to attach your name and face to anything you did online, the world would instantly become better.
And yet you chose to post that one of the few remaining anonymous boards instead of anywhere else on the internet. This has to be rage bait.

>>81659401
exactly. its odd it's even a debate. unless you uironically think this >>81659306

>>81659451
>>81659306
Unless you want North Korea-style internet, that's literally impossible. Even in China it's extremely common to use a VPN to bypass censorship.

>>81659470
right but they still would have more oversight and information on the populace than if they weren't doing it

>>81659497
but that wasn't what he was saying anyway
but may be what he will say if trump thinks its a good idea

>>81659497
Yeah increasing the already extremely powerful surveillance state aligns 100% with small-government conservative values

>>81659445
This entire thread is rage bait. Are you expecting seriously replies? Fucking retard.

>>81659655
it is where we are headed

>>81659655
The small government conservative thing died entirely with Trump. Literally no Republican even wants that even more so idk why you are bringing it up.

>>81659401
This. Prohibition NEVER works if humans want something they have invented they will get it one way or another the semantics don't really matter. That's why outlawing alcohol never sticks it just leads to bathtub gin and black market bootleggers and the same reason they are giving up on weed being illegal finally in most places. People need to be accountable parents and raise their own children again and tell them about sex and relationships themselves. I'm a Millennial and literally not one person I ever met got the mythical "birds and the bees" from parents they found out about sex from fucking around as teens and porn, first magazines and videos/tv and then internet.

>>81659879
It was part of why conservatives thought DOGE was going to be a huge success, but I do know conservatives are dumber than rocks

>>81659156 (OP)
Talking about a chick's ass when she's in earshot is very cringey. My 70 year old dad does it, and I'm always like "please shut the fuck up, there are people around us". Doesn't matter who you are, this is boomer type shit.
Trying to control what people are allowed to do under the guise of protecting children is outright vindictive behavior.

>>81659898
Raising their own children? Like putting in actual work into whatever and then get an outcome adequate to quality of the job? Sounds to me like a commie agitprop

>>81659942
You are giving conservatives too much of a leeway

>>81659942
Conservatives thought DOGE was a success cuz it was a Trump project. What it did or claimed to do was not relevant.

>>81660190
What is your method of arguing with conservatives then given they have no principles except to dickride Trump?

>>81660211
I voted for Trump and I think he's a narcissistic blowhard.
If Dems could get it together for once in this decade, things wouldn't have to be like this

>>81660211
I dont argue with them. Waste of time and it isnt even funny at this point.

>>81660211
not true of many of the conservatives I know (I consider myself a moderate, which of course is literally fascist to a lot of lefties here in the lovely PNW), but I suspect that having an honest discussion with them isn't what you're really interested in
>>81659898
prohibition can work (at least insofar as people will largely avoid doing whatever is prohibited) if the punishment for violating it is extreme, like getting murdered for saying the nigger word in a waffle house, but that leads to having a regressive society that can't keep up with the rest of the world
>>81660338
they'd rather just bitch and moan about shit, like how they keep complaining about Reagan despite having almost half a century to reverse whatever he did, which they had the power to do for much of that time. who knows, maybe it's like how being a victim and loser has become social currency to them. when they get into power they can't effectively wield it because in their social hierarchy, those who aren't in power are above those who are

>>81660546
4chan is just obviously not the place for honest conversation since most of you guys are irrelevant extremists who have zero allies. Mainstream conservatives have done next to nothing except dickride Trump since he's been inaugurated. The only thing was a little bit of pushback from the more fringe side (MGT, Carlsen) about Trump starting of a war in Iran.

>>81659156 (OP)
why this looks like it's made by a leftist boomer?

>>81660605
Go back to pleddit, schizofag

>>81660861
What part do you not agree with?

>>81659421
It's Jewish only in USA and all Western countries that follow Jews' porn formula. Also porn comics and cartoon exist. And Jews hate them cuz they can't control them. That's why they use Jewish trick like having Jewish banks boycotting Japanese hentai sites. Also Jews can't control what amateur porn artists make.

>>81660605
>4chan is just obviously not the place for honest conversation
4chan is what you make of it, and occasionally it can be better for honest conversations because of anonymity. I think you're just trying to make an excuse for not being able to or interested in having honest conversations, which, if you're the anime avatar bad faith debate bro I think you are, is very in character

>Mainstream conservatives have done next to nothing except dickride Trump
conservatives do that publicly in order to present a unified front and not be punished for stepping out of line, but if you think they aren't criticizing him behind closed doors, idk what to tell you to convince you otherwise. then there are the conservatives like Bill Kristol and David Brooks who are still very grumpy about Trumpy. there was also a lot of pushback from the Murdoch publications on Trump's pants on head retarded tariffs. it was lighter pushback than you might like, because they've learned that if they go hard, Trump always pushes back harder

it's funny how liberals love to stereotype everyone despite it supposedly being against their shared values as liberals, like how they assume that conservatives are all for that retard Mike Lee's attempt to sell off all the public land in the western states, when in fact conservatives (including the people who run /ptg/ over in /pol/) are mad as hell about it, particularly the republican congressman from Montana who deep-sixed a similar provision in the House version of the bill. thankfully it got removed from the Senate version at the last minute, too

>>81660546
>how they keep complaining
That's my entire problem with the current state of the democratic party. They call conservatives reactionary, but virtually their entire platform right now revolves around reacting to Trump and bitching about every he does. Meanwhile, he actually DOES. not always good things, but he is putting forth policy (they will say he does nothing despite shitting their pants every time he signs an executive order), which is more than I can say for the dems who are trying to get elected.
And when they do put forth policy it's usually something that alienates people further towards republicans (a lot of the working class will vote for closed borders and meritocracy, it's not too hard to understand).

Why are pledditors so mad about "nazis banning" ugly real life porn anyway while superior hentai exist? 2D > 3D.

>>81659401
>or they just wack it to the endless content of young girls shaking their asses/tits on tiktok/IG anyway.
Good. More boys need to be funnelled into the onlyfans money farm, so that the money no longer goes to male pornographers, but instead to woman performers directly.

>>81660920
I very clearly said the "honest conversations" are worthless since most of you guys stand for things that'll never come to fruition. You sidestepped this entirely to cry about anime lol.
>Trump can't handle criticism
Color me shocked.
>we all are in lock-step with Trump, but like don't stereotype us bro
lol
>but they totally criticize him, just where there's no evidence
lol
>>81660928
>democrats have said nothing in opposition to the BBB
lol

>>81661471
>entirely to cry about anime
your literacy skills are nonexistant if that's what you got out of what I said, but thanks for confirming that you are who I think you are

>>81661471
> in opposition to the BBB
That doesn't contradict a single thing I said

>>81661564
>sidestepped my point again
>nitpicks something irrelevant
>gives up
I accept your concession.
>>81661587
>they say he does nothing
>but they also acknowledge and criticize the thing he's doing
Also who's saying Trump has done nothing? He's done nothing to help Americans, but I've zero democrats saying he's done nothing.

>>81661628
you don't have a point, and what's the value in talking with someone who is as dishonest as you are?

>>81661628
They COMPLAIN about BBB just like I said without actually presenting policy of their own. Their entire policy is being against whatever trump is doing.
If they could shut the fuck up, vote against the bill, then present something better, I would respect them and they might have my vote

>>81661646
>no attempt at an argument
lol
>>81661656
You think the dems can present national policy right now? Have you never taken a civics class? lol

>>81661656
even when they have total power, they're ineffectual. like when they passed a republican health care plan when they had the mandate from the voters to do medicare for all. and it's not like they're historically ineffective, but sometime after the Clinton administration they lost their ability to effectively govern

>>81661688
I don't think they can present a single policy without gauging where trump stands on it first. That's the issue. Even his good policies (less immigration) are considered bad by merit of trump supporting it.
It is tantamount to virtue signalling at this point

>>81661688
I made an attempt at an argument but you characterized it as "entirely to cry about anime" when I was merely commenting on your pathological use of anime girls with every post. again, tell me what is the value of talking to you when you are as dishonest as you are? can you do that much?

>>81661716
How do you think federal legislation comes to be?
>>81661740
My entire point is that honest conversation is useless on 4chan lol. Your perspective doesn't matter at all.

>>81661996
>How do you think federal legislation comes to be?
I get where you're coming from, I am just saying that democrats need to literally bee themselves instead. They are scared of going out of the approved comfort zone. Do what gets votes. Fuck it.
And yeah, I am actually just as mad about Republicans kissing up to trump instead of just presenting the policies they personally want.
But unfortunately, the Republican posture machine has more policies I agree with rn than the Democrat one.

>>81661996
and my point is that you're projecting because you're entirely incapable of honest conversation anywhere, and are using the mean old hacker known as 4chan as a convenient excuse for your character flaw