Thread 81679031

Death is such a strange concept to me. Do you just disappear? No reincarnation, no restarting, nothing just eternal darkness. What was I doing before I was born? Will it be the same as it was before I existed?

It's like going to sleep without the waking up part.

death = disconnection from the body
the body is like a clothe you wear
you are not the body

>>81679031 (OP)
you weren't doing anything before you existed
you aren't going to do anything after you cease existing
there is nothing to fear, literally nothing, you won't feel pain or regret since you won't be there

>>81679031 (OP)
you are a stupid moron and eternal darkness without feelings, this is the meaning of death and life, to die

it is even good for those who want suicide, because they are coming to an end and liberation from torment

>>81679031 (OP)
Watch the parrot sketch, they explain it pretty well.

I haven't figured out the thing with the souls
so in the reddit line of thinking we are sacks of meat controlled by signals along neurons and chemical feedback loops
but what determined us to be ourselves, why is each of us experiencing and controlling a certain individual body and not one of the many other billions
is a cat a reddit sciencerino meat and chemical automaton or is there a spark of soul living the experience of consciousness (I believe there is)
but where is the cutoff? an ant? an amoeba?
and if the cutoff is that 'low', there are electrical devices with more complexity and agency than many insects. is 'someone' 'living' their experience? they're sacks of sand ran by electrical impulses after all

>>81679070
>>81679062


anyone who has a definitive opinion on death is retarded because there is 0 way of knowing, no one knows OP, it is impossible to know, even those pronounced dead cannot be trusted because the brain does fire off chemicals to ease the transition to death, those who have truly died cannot tell you. You have no idea what was before life, perhaps you lived? perhaps you didn't, perhaps you were something you cant comprehend? idk but you'll find out so why stress? if theres something, cool, if theres not then you wont care.

>>81679138
get the fuck out of here dreamer, I was in a coma and I can understand what it's like, we didn't live until death, this doesn't exist, we're not in a movie or anime, this is real life

death is just eternal darkness and that's it, there is no soul or anything like that, that's it

>>81679138
Have you ever seen a corpse, even of an animal? It doesn't talk, it doesn't move, you could hit it and it won't feel anything, it doesn't do anything, it's a still bag of decaying flesh. Everyone knows what's after death because everyone has seen it, no matter what fantasy about it being impossible to know or invisible spirits we may have invented.

>>81679031 (OP)
as a kid I use to see a shadow figure every night, and with a blessing from a Christian priest it went away forever. God is real stop being such a nihilist fag

>>81679193
my dad died twice, pronounced dead and his experience wasn't yours so again, you dont one hundred percent know. I hope its eternal nothing because I cannot be fucking arsed existing after this.
>>81679197
yeah I work in a morgue

>>81679197
Oh so now we're using flat Earth logic? Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it ain't real. We literally don't know what happens after death. That's kind of the point.

>>81679193
if there's no soul then why are you... YOU
why are you the one controlling your body and not somebody else's or an animal's or not exist at all, be less than an eternal void of nothingness
why is there even consciousness at all? we should be a completely deterministic conway's game of life, right?

>>81679031 (OP)
you can conceptualize what death is by learning about those with no memories.
>>81679137
What makes you "you" is your memories.
Ask yourself what would be preferable, being alive with no memories, and no thought, or non-existance.
What would change for you between those two states? Breathing? cell resperation?
We know the mind is a product of the body, it can be defective.
There is no scientific existence for any afterlife, or the existance of souls.
When you die your body will rot away, your brain and all it's memories will rot too.
That is what death is.

>>81679242
It's not only vision it's totally outside of the realm of all experience and only supported by faith, which the curvature of the earth obviously isn't. Death as a phenomenon also isn't, most of us have experience mourning and the death of others. Dead others are gone and we can experience with them, they don't exist anymore outside of our memories, we all know that very well.

Why is everyone arguing in my thread?

>>81679235
exactly, we can't know one hundred percent, but approximately it's nothing, and it's not scary at all
>>81679254
>why are you the one controlling your body and not somebody else's or an animal's
because there is a brain, damn it, and it's in my head, it's logical, what kind of stupid questions are these?
and consciousness is given to us to survive because we are the most dominant and strong animals

>>81679297
I'm saying that you would have been a flat earther back before we understood that the earth was a sphere. You totally missed the point again proving your totally short sited. If it's unknown just say it's unknow instead of making baseless assertions because you see a decomposing body, or you no longer can interact with deceased loved ones because none of those things actually prove your point.

Get what i'm saying? lil stupid nigga

I used to be not into the idea of anything after death but since moving houses I be experiencing some weird fucking stuff, ive seen some weird shit mang and now I think fuck knows.

>>81679031 (OP)
>Do you just disappear?
Near death experiences prove that your consciousness survives physical death.

>No reincarnation
There is evidence for reincarnation.

>What was I doing before I was born?
Kids with memories about previous lives (that were later verified to be accurate) sometimes have memories about the afterlife in between their lives too. On average, these kids make more accurate statements about their previous life than those without.

>nothing just eternal darkness.
This is not what the research is pointing towards.

>>81679260
what is birth then? a child becomes 'someone', they experience sensations, feelings, thoughts the same as any of us
from two singular cells to a clump to organs and a complete organism
it's all chemicals and chemical reactions all the way through but still 'someone' is controlling that body and living a conscious experience just like all of us
it is something more than chemical reactions
>>81679315
why is it your brain that is in your head now and not one of the billions that were before or will come after

>>81679349
because such a thing doesn't exist?

how come im in my body as me and not someone else tho, my parents fucked but I had nothing to do with them really if I didn't exist prior but then suddenly I exist? whats stopping me from returning to the void and coming into existence yet again? I really dont want to but if I came from nothing and return to nothing then how can I be sure I wont come back into being again?

>>81679328
It's baseless because you want it to be baseless, your doubting is no different than solipsism. You could imagine anything about anything and say the same shit.
>actually maybe the earth isn't actually flat besides all evidence leading towards it because we could be in a digital simulation with specific parameters to make it look to us as spherical, so just you don't know stupid!!
sure I could pretend I don't know, but I'm not retarded so I won't

>>81679375
Because humans will go extinct one day, all life will be gone one day

>>81679376
that is true epistemological speaking there is no way to understand things outside our own personal experience, everything in this material world could actually not be what we think it is.

materialist niggers like you only play checkers not chess apparently.

>>81679394
what if it does and I become something else in the universe, that would be awful, what if all humans die, all the stars die out and then some bullshit big bang happens again and eventually life happens again? that would fucking suck

>>81679375
I've been asking the same thing in the thread and I think only religion and spirituality have answers for that but none have proof, in turn the whole catch 22 of belief and faith
but it's an important question that reddit atheistfags have no real answer to except drivel like some of these replies or (pretending to?) not understand the question
there'd be another question of determinism vs free will
I think there's free will and there are shunts in the laws of physics at the quantum level for some sort of external 'input'

>>81679031 (OP)
Rejoice OP, there is eternal life with God in Heaven. Lord Jesus Christ have mercy upon us.

>>81679576
That's the gayest answer

>>81679344
I really hope it isn't just reincarnation into another body, but I guess I wouldn't be able to recognize most likely.

Bump for you OP

>>81679031 (OP)
You will probably be nothing and have no idea u died just like u had no idea or sense of self before birth ig

We are batteries that are constantly reincarnated, I suspect.

>>81679031 (OP)
>eternal darkness
Not darkness, but the lack of any experience. All measurable experiences can be mapped to physical states in the brain. You will simply not experience anything, not even darkness. The electric signals, the chemicals, the neural pathways that formed your consciousness and your ability to experience things will no longer exist.

its not strange. You no longer exist its only scary to you because you're alive to think.

>>81679070
>eternal darkness
There is no darkness its nothing.