The average person seems genuinely kind of stupid. Normalfags consistently lack what I'd think of as basic knowledge about the world, and also seem to lack curiosity about it as well. Notice how they also whine and moan about mathematics, and are completely incapable of seeing the beauty in it.

you're retarded. the only pattern is the one red ball.

>>81688380 (OP)
its a weirder anser than that

I have seen people with PHDs with a 108 IQ

people with PHDs are by no means dumb

I think pretty much means unless you are retarded you are much smarter than you realize

>>81688424
or that education isnt intelligence

>>81688434
if you think phds dont mean this person is smart

i dont know what to tell you

>>81688424
>>81688434
1. Speak English please
2. This is possible in bullshit fields but you can't get a PhD in math with a 108 iq

>>816884482.
>This is possible in bullshit fields but you can't get a PhD in math with a 108 iq

says you

>>81688442
the real question is why do you think theyre intelligent when the evidence is on the contrary?
>"surely theyre still smart because conventional knowledge is that phd = smart"
when theres literally proof ion front of you that education isnt bound by iq

>>81688458
I am trying to teach you that IQ is harming your views of intelligence

thinking someone is not smart cause of an arbitrary score on a bell curve

meanwhile people who landed lower on this score than y ou are accomplishing great things

proving this score does not mean they are "dumb"

if anything it proves this IQ tests are not accurate at measuring intelligence

>>81688380 (OP)
Im pretty good with general knowledge. People say i know a lot but im genuinly double digit IQ my mother is retarded af
She also drank during pregnancy so the fact that im not a full blown tard is insane

>>81688470
it sounds like the competition is more about if you get to do the next obvious big project that requires genuflecting

>>81688503
everything is in service of someone else

even if you are elon musk creating ships to go mars

you performing a service for the future of humanity as it learnt to colonize new planets

performing a service is unavoidable and should be felt with shame but pride for your contributions to your community

>>81688527
>performing a service is unavoidable and should NOT* be felt with shame but pride for your contributions to your community

fixing typoe reuining my point

XD

>>81688470
look up fluid intelligence
education is specifically set up so that the average person can pass, it would make no sense to tune it so only exceptional people can pass since the entire point of education is allowing people to get jobs, capitalism wont isolate people for no reason if it hurts profit, see no child left behind act
>if anything it proves this IQ tests are not accurate at measuring intelligence
retarded midwit, so actual intelligence testing is fake intelligence but shekelberg giving you a degree for telling him what he wants to hear is real intelligence? fuck off retard

>>81688424
>phd in computer science
SAAAAAAR

>>81688380 (OP)
Well to you near geniuses we really are dumb animals

>>81688380 (OP)
>Normalfags consistently lack what I'd think of as basic knowledge about the world, and also seem to lack curiosity about it as well.

I was actually thinking about this recently. My verbal IQ is quite high and my spatial IQ isnt that bad but my math and my adaptive behaviors in particular are abysmal. I will never be able to without help, tackle basic responsibilities like cleaning or doing bills or talking on the phone without help. I am not even allowed to use the stove top at all because theres a very big chance Id burn the house down. Basically any responsibility you wouldnt give to an 8 yr old I will never be able to do without someone guiding me and in that respect I envy most neurotypical people even if I dislike interacting with them. I dislike them but envy that they can do things like that without help and dont even think twice about it.

>>81688424
Neural plasticity makes IQ moot. Training, practice, and dedication will always beat IQ out every time - also you could spend months with a 70iq negro and as long as hes dedicated to learning can be taught to recognize the patterns used in IQ tests and score above his IQ of 70

Ignorance is not an intellectual failing, you dumb midwit fuckhead

>>81688380 (OP)
All people are dumb, just in different ways. Evolution doesn't exactly select for being rational or smart. We are all biased. It's easy to see in others and hard to see in yourself. Everyone and their mom thinks the average person is stupid.

>>81688854
>verbal IQ
thinking you're smart because you use big words
>spatial IQ
thinking you're smart because you overestimate your reflexes. There aren't different kinds of IQ anon.

>>81688380 (OP)
>another useless iq thread

>>81689028
I kinda see your point in this.

I talked to an anon awhile ago that claimed to have a high diagnosed IQ, but in terms of emotional intelligence, he was acting pretty damn retarded. (tldr he was repulsed by ugly people and hated them unconditionally).

I just wonder, if not that, where does his high iq come into play?

>>81688380 (OP)
>The average person seems genuinely kind of stupid.
Preach.

>>81688829
But you're animals with whom we can have socially-acceptable SEXUAL INTERCOURSE :]

>>81689820
>spatial iq is when reflexes
>there aren't different kinds (i.e. subsets) of IQ anon
>>81688862
>neural plasticity is independent from iq
>>81688470
>arbitrary score on a bell curve
>IQ tests are not accurate at measuring intelligence
iq correlates strongly with virtually all measures of success and cognitive deficit we have (i.e. an actual diagnostic tool), societal or otherwise, to the point where i argue not accepting it as a proxy measurement if not a measurement naturally precludes you from making any comparative statements re: intelligence.
>>81688442
>phd implies intelligence
phd implies conscientiousness, which is related to, but not exactly, intelligence.
>>81688448
>you can't get a phd in math with a 108 iq
you probably could.
>t. matsci phd
this thread sucks bc you all simply don't understand what you're discussing. IQ Is a comparative measure of how efficient your brain is at performing certain elementary cognitive tasks that extrapolate well to real-life performance. the strength of your short-term memory, your ability to manipulate simple objects or to recognize patterns, how much verbal knowledge and intuition you've built already, etc. are all the foundation of the complete human portrait of intelligence.

>>81688380 (OP)
>Normalfags consistently lack what I'd think of as basic knowledge about the world,
>Oh no they dont know muh awesome factoids about the heckin Zimbabwe genocide everyone should strive to remember uzbekistans national anthem
If you cant put the knowledge your amassing to use, you're a retard or a midwit who overcompensates by hoarding informations because you have no real skill or talent or cognitive abilties.
Normies are way smarter than you useless reddit tier autists unironically

>>81688380 (OP)
They started out with different knowledge about the world compared to you, they have no drive to be exceptional because they never believed they could be and knew what exceptional meant so they knew what to "leave to the experts".

>>81688380 (OP)
>Notice how they also whine and moan about mathematics, and are completely incapable of seeing the beauty in it.
math education is abysmal in pretty much all western education. proof-based math is beautiful, getting fed formulae for this week's quadratics test is not.
>also seem to lack curiosity about it as well.
people are curious by nature. if they're not, they've either been socialized to (i.e. zoomers who think it's uncool to be interested about anything) or because they don't have the bandwidth (people who live paycheck to paycheck and don't have time or energy to dedicate to intellectual pursuits).
>Normalfags consistently lack what I'd think of as basic knowledge about the world
so you possess this "basic knowledge about the world" but can't decipher why someone might not like secondary school math?

>>81690179
>zoomers who think it's uncool to be interested about anything
Zoomers are the most educated generation ever in all aspects, only millennial karens shun each other and other generations for being into the wrong thing. Nerds were very unpopular until the 2010's

>>81688424
Following instructions well does not necessary make you good at recognizing patterns.

>>81690196
underage drinker hands typed this post

>>81690103
You are talking about incelligence

>>81690238
Which is what OP is alluding to. No one with substantial knowledge that can be translated into a real life use or practical situations even in a theoretical field is this arrogant about their knowledge and intelligence
People like OP are always mediocre academia rejects who never made it very far but still outmatch highschool dropouts and freshmen. Aka a mdiwit

>>81688380 (OP)
It honestly depends on how much stress someone is under. I have 32 employees and sometimes I can appear pretty dumb.

>>81689965
>tldr he was repulsed by ugly people and hated them unconditionally
>posts on 4chan
He might be retarded

>>81690978
It honestly just kinda annoys me when people disregard others for simple shit like that.

>>81689965
It probably comes into play in being able to recognize patterns and being able to get at the heart of a problem quickly through that.

Honestly though being emotionally intelligent is so simple idk how people suffer from this. You just have to be able to know yourself well enough, use your memory to know what leads you to make the decisions that you make and the emotions that made you that way and apply that process on others. It might come from a severely fragile ego where introspection hurts too much.

>midwits talking about intelligence

>>81688380 (OP)
What's even sadder is how some people grow up as children with a genuine curiosity about the world, but end up losing it as an adult for whatever reason.

>>81692537
>It probably comes into play in being able to recognize patterns and being able to get at the heart of a problem quickly through that.
Well yeah, pattern recognition is why things like sexism, racism, and homophobia exists. Its flawed as shit and makes you think stupid

>>81692964
Those are patterns built from anecdotal experience which is a very stupid thing to use for building a coherent worldview. If your detecting patterns while researching real things you will find things that dont align with stuff like racism. Let's say you researched the crime levels of Manila and compared them to those of a city like Detroit and so you come to see that theirs something else at play. And let's say you researched the murder rates in Nordic countries during the middle ages and early modern period and you find that they are just as bad as subsaharan countries. If your actually eager to know the truth and not simply satisfied with justifying your resentment than no you wouldn't come out bigoted just because of pattern recognition.

>>81688380 (OP)
I knew there was something wrong with the average person when I was kindergarten and they'd all draw the sun in the corner of the page while I'd draw it in the upper center.

>>81688380 (OP)
I'm tired of midwits. They actually believe they're smart or as smart as intelligent people. There should be badges you have to wear that display your IQ so people know to ignore you.

>>81688442
See. This is a midwit poster who can't understand there's a difference between raw cognitive ability and diligence.

>>81693429
>Only true intelligence matters. Now tell me your star signs
Little bro...

>>81688380 (OP)
>The average person seems genuinely kind of stupid
Because they are.