Thread 81688675

>Schizoid Personality Disorder
honestly yeah? why the fuck SHOULD i care about people?
i dont want anything nor CAN they give me anything

that's a weaker person trying to get me to shower though

you're not schizoid

>>81688675 (OP)
I am all of these but I do enjoy sex, maybe I'm a psychopath but I'm not sadistic

>>81688682
i am
i am also INTJ
it was over from the start

>>81688675 (OP)
money comes from other people and you need money so yes you do want something other people give you
if you have a way to earn money which does not involve other people then please tell me because i would love that

>>81688761
>Schizoid
>MBTI bullshit
Least obvious self diagnoser, introvert doesn't mean schizoid

>>81688858
no fuck you, its the only explanation why i am the way i am

>>81688898
Maybe years isolated and hanging out in places like this just made you a callous asshole.

>>81688907
Maybe...
if that's true, then what should I do? just leave?

>>81688913
Just be a better person. Stop taking the internet seriously, and seperate the humour of this site from your core real world personality. Like how people who used this site used to do.

They change the definitions on these things all the time, trying to gatekeep personality disorders as if it's a burning truth carved in stone is retarded. Give it another 20 years and they'll fold schizoid into something else, expand the diagnostic criteria, turn it into a spectrum, etc... Just look at the page for schizo-avoidant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_avoidant_behavior

Don't take psychiatry so seriously, it's only ever so slightly more respectable than astrology.

>>81688675 (OP)
I would like to connect. But I don't

>>81688925
>Just be a better person
in terms of what, genuinely asking
because irl i'm already the kinda guy that helps around - as in my entire personality is just being "useful"

>>81688947
Show others you care about them, they will give you the same in return if they are decent people. Eventually you will feel accepted and develop a sense of belonging and community. This world is scary, but not everyone is an awful shithead. Though everyone makes mistakes or can act shitty at times.

>>81688986
hahahah
lol
lmao!!

>>81688986
>Show others you care about them
thats the thing, i DON'T care about them
and faking caring just doesn't sit right with me

TFW basically schizoid and a shut-in, but deeply desire sex (but trapped as an incel forever).

>>81689238
Unfortunately it's also what's required in order to uncondition yourself out of not caring.

>>81689286
>don't care? start caring
i know its so fucking simple and i agree with you but holy shit, it's gonna be a gargantuan effort on my part

>>81688927
>turn it into a spectrum,
It is already a part of the schizophrenia spectrum.
Avoidant -> Schizoid -> Schizotypal -> Psychotic disorders
Is a spectrum based on self-disorders.

>>81688675 (OP)
Everything I've read and learned about Schizoid Personality Disorder strongly suggests to me it's completely made up bullshit to get more people medicated. Most of the symptoms for the illness are literally just functioning as a normal human being.

>>81689574
The symptoms are just surface level fluff that a diagnostician can identify and recognize in an interview. They're not an actual description of the disorder at all. On top of that, there's no actual medical treatment for schizoid PD, so it's not like people out there are being drugged en mass for it like with depression.

>>81689620
It still sounds completely made up. Especially since most of the symptoms are, again, literally just being a cognitive human being with self-thought.

>>81689574
>>81689639
at first glance it just seems like depression but as a personality, right?

>>81689620
wonder if it's like some sort of high-inhib psycho/sociopathy?

>>81689658
No, look up all the symptoms of this disorder. Half of them are literally just "if you don't like talking to people when you're upset, you're clearly mentally ill!"

I've been noticing this shit happening more and more lately and I'm starting to think the entire field of psychology is desperately just making shit up wholesale because they have no scientific basis and need an excuse for infinite funding.

>>81689639
nta and im not 100% im schizoid, but i identify with a lot of schizoid traits.
im definitely not normal.
i have no desire for relationships. even the most introverted want a friend at least or to be understood by someone
as far as i can tell i have no emotions. I teared up about a sad story of a dog last year, but that just felt like something my body was doing and internally I didn't feel anything
I'm incredibly lazy. I've left my teeth to rot. I know I might get an infection yet I don't care enough to go to a dentist and extract my fucked up tooth
I basically have nothing I desire besides eating when hungry and drinking when thirsty

>>81689658
>at first glance it just seems like depression but as a personality, right?
It's not depressive at all really, and a schizoid in their untreated form might not even be capable of depression.
The disorder is basically about having a weak, undeveloped basic/minimal self, leading to hypersensitivity, inability to be embodied properly in one's own body and life and so forth. This combines in some way with pic related style splitting, (causing general ego weakness) where the outer and internal world are fundamentally disconnected in a way, where the individual just physically can't mix them together, all the while internally all the "libidinal" aspects of attachment, dependency needs, need for love and friendship etc. are actively suppressed and dissociated away so even the individual themselves isn't aware of their existence, much less people on the outside.

>wonder if it's like some sort of high-inhib psycho/sociopathy?
Nah. It's blatantly on the schizophrenia spectrum, whereas psychopathy isn't.

>>81689685
>when you're upset
Always*

>>81689700
I'm basically on the same level with even my teeth and that doesn't really matter, just because therapists say there's a mental illness does not mean it exists. This is simply depression and basic human psyche functions.

You're not mentally disabled. You're depressed. Stop letting a bunch of nepo-babbies who will never work a day in their life tell you there is something wrong with them. If anything you should beat the shit out of them for outright insulting you like that.

>>81689639
It's really not. The DSM and ICD constructs are just shit, surface level "negative" symptoms, i.e. what the individual lacks, instead of being "positive" symptoms, i.e. what's actually different about the person.
So naturally if you just read the diagnostics criteria and don't for example go through differential diagnoses and structured interviews like the SCID-II, you're obviously not going to get an adequate picture of the disorder. This is also why people shouldn't self-diagnose.

>>81689778
i dont think im depressed. ive been like this for over 15 years and i'm okay with it
>If anything you should beat the shit out of them for outright insulting you like that
i can't even if i wanted to. i dont even know what anger feels like

>>81689810
You're assuming psychology is a real science and not literal made up bullshit that is 90% of the time completely unfalsifible hogwash. I consider psychology on the same level of psuedo-science as astrology or alchemy. Nothing about it makes any fucking sense the moment you start picking at it.

According to the DSM, if you have any hobbies at all that doesn't involve wageslaving, you're considered an addict.

>>81689756
are you the only Freud-poster around? i feel like i've seen you around
>It's blatantly on the schizophrenia spectrum
huh, so it can progress huh? fuck me lol

>>81689918
Nevertheless, schizoid personalities are very much real, and individuals with these specific types of abnormal issues that cause dysfunction and distress can be grouped together. There's neurological studies of differences in brain functioning and mass related to schizophrenia spectrum disorders, as well as genetic correlations. So it's not just psychology.

>>81689946
It most likely won't progress. The personality disorders are generally stable and seem to construe some kind of alternate development compared to schizophrenia. Though it's somewhat common for schizoids to have transient (short-term, temporary) psychoses and psychotic symptoms at times. They just never tip over the edge into what would be called schizophrenia.

>>81690025
>Schizoid personalities are very much real
You literally cannot verify or unverify this fact. It's completely made up. All psychological studies about it are self-referential studies that devolve into assuming there's a mental problem due to the lack of a noticeable mental problem.