I've never been able to get past this "human performance evaluation" aspect of women when it comes to having a long-term relationship. Even on dates this can be exhausting. How do you even relax anymore once a woman enters your life? Any other robots with me on this?

>>81707067 (OP)
>Didn't get a prenup
No fault divorce was a mistake.

Men are so retarded and try to translate relationships to all kind of nonsensical shit
>le market
>le evaluation
>le value
>le inflation
>le ritual
No wonder your partner, and everybody else, gets tired of you, you become a soulless retard husk, seemingly unable to have any original thought. Who would want to spend their daily life next to that?

Stop performing actions that make it seem like it then.

>>81707126

My hatesex meter is going off.

>>81707067 (OP)
Women are subhuman animals, while men can click off their reproductive wiring after marriage, women cant and still treat you like a boyfriend they can replace for someone more "alpha". This is why older gens were tyrannical and cruel to women as women cannot appreciate decenr behavior, so an animal needs to be treated like an animal.

>>81707067 (OP)
What is the point of women? I don't get it. Men literally create and maintain civilization. Men pursue friendships with priority with other men for a reason. Gays have the lowest divorce rates. Lesbians have the highest divorce rates. Yet all women do is bitch and moan how men are the problem.

>>81707126
>Try to analyze and find patterns in the world so that they are better equipped to achieve their goals
>Foid can't understand this and throws a temper tantrum

Women are never beating the retard allegations

>>81707196
>So they can better achieve their goals

Spending 12 hours a day scrolling engagement bait red pill content on twitter consisting of "TOP TEN REASONS WHY THE DATING GAME IS FUCKED AND HOEFLATION IS GOING CRAZY RIGHT NOW. SUBSCRIBE TO MY COURSE TO LEARN HOW TO BEAT THE GAME" is definitely trying to achieve your goals

>>81707219
This is a moid

>>81707094
>judge throws it out because marriage has become a criminal contract
Nothing personnel kid

>>81707067 (OP)
marriage is a human invention, we aren't meant to be monogamous. so really, this performance eval shit in marriages is natural.

>>81707219
>>81707224

Maybe you're both foids.

>>81707094
A prenup is a piece of paper and doesn't do you any good in the long run I'm sorry

>extreme anxiety and fear of abandonment is once again presented as some noble truth that robots have stumbled upon and need to share with the world

Lol. Lmao

>>81707067 (OP)
This is why it's so hard to make sex bots for women.

Sex bot for men: kisses him and bends over.

Sex bot for women: slaps her when her voice gets too loud and fucks her while making her gag on a handgun.

Luckily, women make more money, so they can afford to pay 5x more.

>>81707304

>fucks her while making her gag on a handgun

Life imitates art.

Art imitates life.

>>81707067 (OP)
Women are just naturally shitty people. There's no getting around it.
To crave life with a modern woman is to accept that you're trading happiness for pussy.

>>81707190
Well SOMEONE has to be the problem.
And it certainly couldn't be THEM.

>>81707316
I always think about the over commercialisation and greedy nature of these types of books. back in my day if you wanted to switch things up with this type of porn you would just go on a03 but jew capitalism has killed everything good so they stole the concept of written porn which used to be FREE and now is getting sold like REAL books. Nobody can have anything for free under capitalism.

I want to think it was not like this in the past. You have to give women trivial tasks to keep their little minds busy or else they look for reasons to hate you, stir chaos, gossip, or get into hoa bullshit. It's because usually she'd have five children going mom mom mom all day long and simple tasks like housecleaning took longer than five minutes to walk back and forth to push buttons.
A big part of it is just the concept existing. It probably never crossed our great great grandparents mind, the thought I could do better. They just met each other through church or family, took a liking to each other, married, and had kids. There was no feminism screaming get fat get tattoos, get stds, get abortions, spend all your time getting student debt so you can be office flora for 40 years and die single and unloved. Women see celebrities talking about this and instead of thinking this sounds horrible they think wow, a celebrity said that I'm going to do that unquestioningly haha fuck society

>>81707067 (OP)
It boils down to women wanting men to cheat.

>>81707067 (OP)
It's like the check engine light in your car. The moment something falls below Chad levels of performance, you have to fix the part or get rid of the car because it fails inspection even though its still perfectly usable.

>>81707067 (OP)
>never let your guard down
>never allow yourself to be vulnerable around somebody who ostensibly "loves" you
If this is how relationships are, I'd rather not bother.

>>81707094
A judge can throw out a prenup for literally any reason. There's lots of cases where the judge is like "I see you agreed to a prenup but I think the terms are unfair so it doesn't count." And if a woman so much as hints that she sorta kinda felt the slightest bit of pressure when signing the prenup, the judge will say she was coerced into signing it.

Easy fix, and although it sounds like a joke I assure you it's not.
Stop caring about women.
If she stays with you, cool.
If she leaves you, then lol because you know she was better off with you.

The only reason the dead bedroom phenomenon exists is because foids leverage sex with oofy doofies to get them to marry. Once the ring is on their finger, the foid has no obligation to have sex wjth the undesirable (read: non-Chad) man she settled for.

>>81707219
i agree if u were smart u would admit u cannot understand rather than pretend that u do

>>81707067 (OP)
these guys are idiots. dead bedrooms are because they don't know how to seduce women and make them feel slutty, that's literally it. it's not hard to keep a bit of flirting/conquest mindset going while maintaining a relationship with someone, it's fun and that self-awareness negates any potential icks from living normally and doing what you want most of the time.

>>81708150
I don't want to hear your opinion unless you have actually been in a relationship for more than 10, 15yrs with someone. I doubt you have. It's okay to admit you don't know everything

>>81708262
why don't you want to hear my opinion while you lap up the opinions of others in this thread who know even less than me?

>>81707067 (OP)
They do this IF YOU AREN'T CHAD. They don't do this to chad. You think Francisco Lachowski's wife thinks to herself "ew, he waved unsexily"? You think she bitches about him talking at an unsexy volume? No way. Women do this when they marry a sub-8 man because they resent him for not being chad, so they start compiling a list in their head of all the stupid little reasons why they hate him.
The only way to avoid this is to just not get married and not commit ever. Have casual FWB relationships if that's within your ability, but never commit. One of the blackest blackpills is the fact that genuine love and romance is for chad only.

>>81708150
>dead bedrooms are because they don't know how to seduce women and make them feel slutty
The only way you can do that is by being exceptionally attractive and very tall. Women arent biologically capable of getting horny for normal men, they can only get horny for genetically exceptional men.

>>81707067 (OP)
I always keep my woman on a leash. Treat her like a dog and you will be fine.

>>81708262
Not that anon but I've been in a relationship with my wife for 10 years and I slap her ass and grope her breasts constantly and it works.

>>81707369
What the fuck are you talking about you absolute retard? Get the fuck out with your commie shit, no one cares

>>81707067 (OP)
I know youre probably on of the victims of american feminist movement/changes, like most of the r9k audience when it comes to sucha topics, but its not a rule for women to be like that. In america? Maybe, i dont know but i think there are still some that are different, you can still find girls that you can relax with.
Search for the empath and just care for her, she will be your loyal soul. My fiancee supports me with all of my weird shit and she doesnt care if something is effimate or not, I can even be her bitch inside home, just dont be pushover or obnoxious faggot outside, but that goes both ways, I expect some level of self-reliance of her.
I think the 2nd most important thing that makes a girl a good relationship material is that if she doesnt dig the society - just find a girl that dosent think to much about her social status/friends. She can have socials, perform stupid shit like talking photos/making posts, but it shouldnt be her goto area for ego boost/sating her social hunger - that role should be fullfilled by you. So best bet is to find an introverted emphat that dosnt confirm to social standards, at least to some degree (ive been togheter with her for aroubd 14y and I didnt expirience any changes in her behaviour regarding me).

>>81707067 (OP)
This is the only part of "bee yourself" that has value and is likely all the normies really mean, if you are always maintaining a version of you that you can be day today and keep seeking/selecting women that want that version of you there is no "performance evaluation" nor a need to relax as you would be yourself anyway.
Ultimately if enough men did that women would conform, look at how so many of them have become ok with porn use over the last three decades, that was a byproduct of guys not conforming so they adapted instead and really the only reason it's swinging back is more and more young men are opposed to porn.

>>81707094
I think the bigger issues is they don't make better means of stopping people from getting married. It takes more work to get a car license or even a membership to most gyms. Marriage licenses are insultingly easy to get.

>>81707996
Not even .2% get thrown out, it's a very fucking costly measure to do that, you need to separate attorneys to sign and witness the agreement and fucking that up will hurt them in a way that could end their license.

>>81707996
>>81708967
>it's a very fucking costly measure to do that
More so the judge because that's two law offices you have pissed off and if it was some flimsy reason like " I think the terms are unfair " they would be out to get him impeached and even a conviction for such negligence, never mind the entire system would be opposed to the judge being in the courts. Everyone forgets these places of law are just like any other business and playing to fast and lose with things will get you just as burned and destroyed.

Yeah that's totally true when she's shallow and retarded. I know a few women like that, but most of them aren't.

>>81707126
Yeah, flying off the handle over the way someone fucking waves is perfectly normal, having a problem with it is le bad
Thanks for dragging us down with you because you cunts just love being miserable apparently.

>>81709103
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST RECOGNIZE AND HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WOMEN BEING RETARDED
>WOMEN ARE INFALLIBLE YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>81709135
What kind of women are you hanging out with? What world are you living in lol

>>81707067 (OP)
women who are like that aren't relationship material
if you can't relax around someone, don't marry them

>>81707067 (OP)
Women just deeply hate all of humanity with the single exception of themselves. In fact I think they hate literally everything, they are the most miserable beings to ever exist.

Muslims were right

Thats the biggest blackpill for zoomers and alphas

>>81708355
>It took this long for someone to point out the real reason
Never marry an alpha widow, she hates you on a level that you can never escape from.

>>81707261

>we aren't meant to be monogamous
Roastie hands typed this

>>81708074
>just don't feel love for your girlfriend bro

>>81708967
>the only part of "bee yourself" that has value and is likely all the normies really mean
Don't think about it too deeply.
>be yourself
is advice from normalfags to other normalfags that lack "confidence" and are afraid of putting themselves out there. It's NOTadvice to autists or weirdos telling them they'll find a mate/acceptance.

>>81708355
Casual FWB is even more Chad only. No hope for us

>>81707067 (OP)
So quirk chungus was right when she did her yearly partner review or whatever??

As a Chad, I'm exempt from the "continual performance review" because she knows she can't do better, other women want me, and I could easily replace her. She may be angry about it, but I don't give a shit.
For non-Chads, you just gotta realize she probably won't ever be your "best friend", and at some point when the games and bullshit starts, you have to be able to let go without letting her visibly rattle you. As soon as she starts being a bitch, get rid of her. Yeah for non-Chads that boils down to never get married I guess.
Don't make women your whole world. Have other fun things to do with bros. That's 95% of enjoying life.

>>81710181
She probably came up with the idea. Why would a man want to fill out paper work on their significant other as a way of recreation with her? Humiliation ritual.

>>81708355
>They do this IF YOU AREN'T CHAD. They don't do this to chad. You think Francisco Lachowski's wife thinks to herself "ew, he waved unsexily"? You think she bitches about him talking at an unsexy volume? No way.

>>81710090
Hate to break it to you, but those are middle-school feels. How can you love a run-through, cynical slut? You can't, so don't.

>>81710201
"too perfect" is woman-talk for "he didn't beat my ass enough". He married a cunt, it happens.
Women can't take away the fun you have driving a fast car, racing bros on waverunners, going fishing, playing a poker game, drinking beer while playing bocce ball... things like that. What the fuck do women even do for fun by themselves? Shopping? Eating at a restaurant??

>>81708355
King of Spain's wife cheated on him kek

>>81708150
So even if I marry you I still have to be a tingles jester? God I hate women jesus fucking christ

>>81710232
Its funny when the hubbies used to be violent psychos but calmed down and now foids are angry at how unsexy they are now

>>81707067 (OP)
Gotta have privacy...>>81708150
Yes. Just treat them like a princess.... Of a kingdom you just conquered.
>>81708262
Would two 5.5-6 year relationships count?

>>81709147
Women who spend more than two hours a day online are all like this.
Depending on where you live, these might be the only women you know

>>81710206
You have to be retarded to date a slut in the first place.
Those are for pumping and dumping, condomn on, with no kisses. Like you do with actual prostitutes. Or better yet, dont fucking risk it

>>81708262
>>81708768

Pretty much this. Married 15 years, sex multiple times a week, 100x a year. Women react how they're treated. Treat her like she's attractive, she feels attractive. She feels attractive, she performs. But unless you're more of a sociopath than I am you can't fake attraction - gotta be real, so she has to be attractive.

>>81709006
Good legal advice is worth the price tag. What i was told by coworkers who went through divorces was 'make sure she's got her own lawyers'. She has to have counsel.

>>81707067 (OP)
Amusing that you think any amount of robots have experience with LTRs. Kinda invalidates what a robot is.
Anyway, though I've never had a relationship, or even an unpaid fuck with a woman, I certainly know I could not deal with the perma-evaluation you mention.
I despise the whole humiliation ritual of dating. I know women know who they will fuck and who they won't. I want a woman to be up-front with me and fuck me.
All I want to do is fuck them a lot and hang out at home. None of this outside/socialising shit interests me, and I am too NEET to afford it in any case.
This is why by default, the best I can ever hope for is a fuck-buddy. But only Chad gets those.
I just have to hope a MILF/GILF is desperate enough to pick me, as I leave my 30s for middle age.

>>81708967
I agree that men can make women conform, and that happened with porn.

But that's also thanks to slut acceptance. If all women are whores with triple digit bodycounts. And all sluts are celebrated. And if "sex workers" are also now applauded by feminists. Women can't really complain now if their man watches porn. I mean, they could, they are the biggest hypocrites with no actual moral standards

>>81707126
>Men are so retarded and try to translate relationships to all kind of nonsensical shit
>nonsensical shit
Even though the terms are cringe they are accurate in describing the topic of sexual relationships.

>>81710194
>what kind of man fills up paperwork for a relationship

Pointless bureaucratic paperwork that would make Kafka roll in his grave. Dumb meeting after dumb meeting. Women are the ones who enjoy that shit and brought it to the workplace. Corporate jobs are just a daycare for women. It's not a meme. Middle management was created so women can exploit the real workers. It makes the market even worse for everyone. The communists should adress this instead of being trannies

>>81707813

great analogy

>>81707245
>>81707281
>>81707996
>>81709006
a pre-nup done correctly cannot be thrown out, and will never be thrown out, and is basically ironclad, you can put absolutely absurd clauses in it and if both parties agreed to it with their own lawyers present it's ogre

don't ever listen to blackpill retard faggots who tell you otherwise

>>81707067 (OP)
I will never put on a performance in the first place, I will simply be me and if a woman ends up liking me then so be it, but I won't go out of my way to impress them, either they like my lazy ass or they don't and I don't really care which it is.
I may never get into a real relationship but who cares, after being in some previously it's not that interesting.

>>81710378

Anonymous 07/04/25(Fri)08:23:10 No.81710378
>>81708150
>So even if I marry you I still have to be a tingles jester? God I hate women jesus fucking christ