>there are many good men out there, we exist, women just ignore us!
>the good men: immature, lazy, refuse to looksmatch

>>81730257 (OP)
Lots of women are even worse than this and they get married.
The problem are career women who are too proud to take a stay at home husband.

Lower your standards Becky.

>>81730257 (OP)
any time you point out male hypocrisy you get laughed at because nobody really cares at the end of the day
and thats the sad truth

>>81730257 (OP)
Im 30 and I find this funny. I guess I don't really care what women have to say anymore. Truly freeing.

>>81730257 (OP)
Wise observations, Nona. These so-called "good men" love to cry that women don't notice them, yet they do absolutely nothing to be worth noticing. They stay emotionally stunted, playing video games all day, refusing to grow the hell up, thinking a personality from 2007 Reddit is enough to carry them through life. Then they have the nerve to whine about women "overlooking" them while they won't even look in a mirror, let alone looksmatch to their own standards.

They want a model-tier woman to worship them, but they can't even muster up the bare minimum of hygiene, ambition, or social grace. And they act shocked when no one is lining up to mother them? Please. Women do see them, they see them for exactly what they are: lazy, entitled, emotionally constipated manchildren expecting a goddess to rescue them from their own mediocrity.

If they wanted to be chosen, they'd put in the work like women do every damn day. Until then, they can keep crying on the sidelines, blaming women for their own failure to even try. Pathetic.

I sincerely don't get this idea that every guy has to be some ambitious go-getter. I have nothing against people that are into that lifestyle, but some people don't particularly need much to be okay with existence.

After seeing women of my generation be pumped and dumped by loser niggers and left with mulatto kids, I simply can not take women serious anymore. Sorry.

and then he finds a woman and has no choice but to become her because he never had a life in the first place

>>81730317
I have a full time finance job, hobbies, my own place, i exercize .im not fat or bald. Even obese drug addicted single moms dont want me. But please tell me how im too picky or akshully dont have enough muh hobbies for women who dont fo anything but scroll tiktok all day

None of that wall of text in your shitty 'jak "meme" matters
If he's sexy he's a good man
If he's an 8/10 he's "average"
If he's sub-8 he's subhuman

>blow my chances in high school because of likely autism
>isolation for a few years
>end up in weird will we wont we situation
>somehow botch that too(bullet dodged she turned out to be pozzed with lots of stds)
>ff a bit forward
>stable home, job
>the only women who want me are either too young or single moms

>>81730257 (OP)
>supports fascism
>expects a trad wife
>thinks MRA people are 'misunderstood'
>thinks about sex every hour
>'she's a 6 bro, you can do better'

Isn't facism just obeying the law ?

>>81730370
They couldn't tell you what Fadicm mean. I bet if you brought up Giovanni Gentile to these women that would be dumbfounded and not even know what that is. Fascism = scary because my professor said so, and my Hollywood movies told me the same.

>>81730257 (OP)
Women don't want me cuz I'm a 5'3 brown sea monkey

>>81730257 (OP)
>immature, lazy, refuse to looksmatch
I don't think i'm a good man, however I am these things and also 32.

>>81730365
>too young
Unless they're actually below the age of consent they aren't "too young".

>>81730370
I think obeying the law is obeying the law, fascism is a political ideology advocating ultranationalist authoritarianism.

>>81730320
You don't have to be a go-getter, just don't be the passenger princess in a relationship, no girl likes men backseating.

I honestly dont even get how a man today isnt completely depressed and avolitional. Theres no motivation to do anything, and every day you just get buried deeper. Zero carrot. No bottom rung whatsoever. Its like life is designed to paralyze you.

>>81732479
>just don't be the passenger princess in a relationship,
I have never been in a relationship you stupid bitch LMAO I don't know what means, just sounds like woman selecting for an extroverted, assertive man with a large social circle.

>>81730317
Men only worked on themselves to get women because it worked. It doesn't work anymore. Its literally just wasting your life. Playing video games is unironically the better choice.

This all makes sense once you realize Women are retarded narcissists and dont actually know what they want. Them saying they want brains, maturity, blah blah, is their pretentious narcissism speaking. Its complete nonsense.

Men have 2 life paths
1 - you are betacuck provider and your woman treats you like shit
2 - you are a chad you treat her like shit and she keeps coming back for more

>>81730257 (OP)
>THERE ARE NO GOOD MEN
>ALL OF THEM ARE LIKE [anecdote of the last guy she willingly fucked]

>>81732479
>Men are just abusive lazy rapist monsters.
>I'm "inferior." I can do much better and find a man who provides for me.
>I shouldn't want to take care of anyone. I shouldn't want a job or to have someone else to take care of the kids or the house.
>I want to be at some man's mercy or else I get thrown on the streets.
Women will just keep getting more and more miserable with the fact that they can only find pre-DEI men and generational wealth to fuck. Zoomer men are falling behind, and women will have to make a choice: 1.) stop insisting women are inherently inferior and stop using patriarchy to justify funneling all the resources to women who are perpetually considered worse off even when they're not 2.) Fuck the 80 year old boomer.

This is the fruit of feminism. If you don't like needing to confront the patriarchy within yourself, then you should never have claimed to be in a movement for gender equality.

>>81732622
>I have never been in a relationship
Yea and it shows

>le fascism shoehorned in for seemingly little to no reason

Hm?

>>81733022
Normalfags are a riot

>>81732871
>Feminism out of nowhere
Inceloids can't stop bringing politics into everything.

>>81733107
You were the one saying women don't like men they have to provide for. It's a common "feminist" sentiment in the modern age that men taking women roles is just men wanting to be lazy and undesirable and taking away from women who are always the real victims.

>>81730257 (OP)
>immature, lazy
My colleagues would attest to the fact I'm neither of those things
>refuse to looksmatch
Ok, where is my slim gf with a 6 pack?

>>81733197
I don't want to nurture my man as if I was his mom and neither do most women, but that doesn't mean I want women's voting rights and every other right revoked. You do realise they are mutually exclusive right?

>>81733307
Yet most men want to nurture women. Even some women want to nurture women. The reason you think most women don't want to nurture men, and the fact you might be right, is because of our society's subconscious patriarchal belief in women's innate inferiority to men and men's supposed superiority and abuse of his own imagined position if he doesn't succeed.

And you don't have to be his mother any more than a nurturing man is the father of his woman. But that doesn't mean it should be undesirable to nurture and care for a man any more than it should be for a woman. That's sexist. And I don't mean sexist in the sense you're discriminating because of people's gender. I don't mean sexist in the sense that we live in a matriarchy. I mean sexist, straight up. You believe, or are coded to believe, that women are inferior to men and use that to justify your appropriation and adoption if the patriarchy but instead of saying: "men deserve things because they're superior," it's "women deserve things because they're inferior". It is quite literally penis envy and unwarrented resentmen of men for being "superior."

Now, if you can't help feeling this way about men, that's fine, too. The men who say you shouldn't have human rights are just as if not more sexist than you. But don't call men who are provided for by women "passenger princesses" or faggots and crap like that unless you are trying to be hypocritical.

>>81733862
Nigga I am happy to comfort my man after a hard day's night, I want to drive him in days when he's having it rough, I am there for him. But I am not washing his ass all day if he's a stunted manchild. There are men that have to literally be reminded to take a shower. Like ew no, why do I feel like I'm raising you. That's what I meant by nurturing him like a mom, I am literally not his mom. None of this has anything to do with 'patriarchy' 'matriachy' or whatever political bullshit you're spewing.

>>81730257 (OP)
>Words words words
Foids can't meme

>>81734585
Well, that's different than what you were saying. Him being a "passenger princess" and him being a manchild who can't even shower on his own are two different things. You were saying you didn't like men backseating, not whatever gremlin version of a man you're talking about now. Him not showering is not him backseating. That's just him not having any self-respect and probably being autistic.

>>81730257 (OP)
>Chase white men on 4chan
>Why are they like this?!
Uhm sweatie

>>81732479
If girls don't like that, it's fair, it just seems odd that it's what you have to be like that, and if you aren't, you can kick rocks. I simply don't like the idea of having to pretend to be someone I'm not and aim for goals I don't care about simply to be with someone. It's not fair to me or them. It just sort of feels like a waste for a person to exist if they don't fit a few specific archetypes in the eyes of this world though.

>>81734753
Oh dont worry that is just one example. I also expect him to at least do something around the house instead of idling in the sofa, it could literally be anything (like loading the washers), he could perhaps plan most weekend activities instead of saying 'what do you wanna do next week babe', how about having him buy his own clothes (yea glad I got over that guy). These are the gremlin man being passed off as 'nice guys'. That is backseating, being a passive observer expecting your spouse to pick up the slack every single time. Its unattractive af.

>try to looksmatch
The issue with that is women of the same number out of 10 as a guy can always date a higher number. Everytime I see a disguting wife/gf she is a with a dude is nothing special. Everytime I see an average girl she is with a pretty decent looking guy. Everytime I see a stacy she is with a literal giga chad. I very rarely see exceptions to this. There is effectively no such thing as looksmatching. Only time I see a mid guy date up in number is when he dates down in race/class.

>>81734968
who hurt you? seriously, who hurt you so much? you are taking things too personally.

>games and porn games and porn games and porn
>muh videogames all day muh videogames as a hobby
>but uhm....he also ONLY cares about hanging with his friends...socializing...at the pub...and his work....and his income..
Who even made this? They can't even insult the guy properly.

>>81730257 (OP)
The heuristic is that if you see a man complaining about such things he automatically isn't good enough.

The actual nice guys are out there trying and quietly improving if rejected. They understand the assingment and work on it instead of throwing tantrums