Thread 81733837

Where are the democrats? Why are they not stopping Trump and maga?

>>81733837 (OP)
The Democrats are dead it's time for Elon's America Party
He will fire all the normies in the government and replace them with autistics

don't worry. he's working on a strongly worded letter for donny.

why would they bother showing up for anything that isn't next year in november? i see him walk through the city and decide what to write about

>>81733837 (OP)
Preparing for the Biden 2028 run of course.
For real though, they need to hurry up and find someone who's electable and stop trying to run candidates literally no one supported.
Like the past two fucking times they lost.

Am I supposed to care that Trumps bill is going to genocide all the boomers, niggers and browns on welfare? Get a job. The purpose of government is to protect the border, full stop.

>>81733837 (OP)
They're in the same bed with MAGA, every movement in this country gets co-opted by billionaires. Anti-billionaire party or bust

I will say the Dem party right now feels exactly like how the Rep party felt after the 2012 loss. Ripe for the taking by some charismatic figure that's willing to shake up the entire platform

>>81733916
its really funny how the 'party of the younger voter' can't find good charismatic younger leaders, meanwhile the republicans are literally swimming in younger talent like ramaswami, vance, desantis and more that can carry the party once the old stock retires (or most likely dies lmao), and not only do they have more younger figures but they're more fucking diverse than dems. trump basically managed to completely revamp the republican party following the massive fuck ups of bush and for better or for worse he succeeded 100%, but dems haven't had a leader like him yet that can breathe new life and shape it to fit the modern age
unironically wouldn't be surprised if dems go the way of the whigs

>>81733949
>The purpose of government is to protect the border, full stop.
*gives amnesty to wetbacks on farms in red districts*

Why can't they just find a normal white dude who will bring in universal healthcare while also being pro-business?

>>81733837 (OP)
They did everything they could to stand in his way in 2016, and look what good it did them. They learned their lesson.

>>81733887
This nigga is in the hospital because he forgot to drink water kek lmao

>>81733981
You are coping hard. The BBW bill gives ICE an insane budget, bigger than the US Marines, bigger than the Russian armed forces. We are gonna see the biggest shitskin round up in history.
The problem thus far is lack of infrastructure, but now camps are being built en masse and ICE is recruiting large numbers.

>>81734012
He hasn't even done Obama numbers yet and you expect him to beat Eisenhower?

>>81733837 (OP)
Theyre all complicit. Slaves to money.

democrat leadership is out of touch old boomers. DNC is a gentrocaracy where they refuse to quit until the day they die. Nancy pelosi, chuck schumer.

guys like hassan need to support guys like zohran in new york or aoc. or some outsider social democrat. someone who gets peeps excited and hopeful again.

the future of politics is a nationalist populist trumpian right wing and social democrat populist left wing, but its going to take longer for the left to accomplish this cause of the many obstacles in the way.

The blue print for social democracy winning was already set in mexico with guys like AMLO, and now his protege sheinbaum. then the south american "pink tide" will have finally reached north america

still cant believe they tried to trap us with kamala

>>81734027
You think they allocated 170 billion for immigration to do nothing?

>>81734034
>guys like hassan need to support guys like zohran in new york or aoc
retards like that will never win a national election and if you think otherwise you live in a reddit bubble

>>81733985
>universal healthcare while also being pro-business?
because that's inherently incompatible. Healthcare in america is a problem of mass regulatory corruption and total destruction of insurance options, and all universal healthcare is gonna do is keep maximizing unsustainable debt when solutions for affordable, private healthcare already exist. All universal healthcare will do in our current state is just set healthcare on a canada-esque death spiral.
>>81734034
>>81734068
Frankly I think social democracy is gonna end up winning and collapsing in on itself because people are genuine idiots who will vote for anything that sounds "good". I only hope there's someone who can rise up a la Francisco Franco to pick up the pieces once this shit topples over.

>>81734065
It's called graft, it happens to late empires. Just because the money is allocated doesn't mean it'll go where it's supposed to (see Ukraine)

>>81734034
Zohran only had a chance in NYC retard, a\which is a Jewish-nigger liberal hellhole, he would stand zero chance in a national election. Even AoC or Bernie are too radical to win a national election. America isnt Western Europe, it will never accept left-wing rule, get over it.

>>81733985
I don't want universal healthcare until they solve fat people, gang shootings and immigration
I don't want my tax money going to help those people

i am now realizing you can write this shit, but that seems pretty risky for him

>>81734144
desu the union should be dissolved by the end of the century
It just makes sense

Right wingers went from
>I just hate all this woke stuff, stop scolding me for finding brown people ugly and annoying
to
>So what if Hector worked for the past 30 years and contributed more in taxes than I ever have or will, he's a disgusting mexican and he needs to have his life ruined

I know liberals were annoying during the identity pol era but the world is truly going in a bad direction. Remember 15 years ago when the vibe was that young people would be the first generation not to be racist, sexist and homophobic? Now if you're a white guy under the age of 40 you're more likely to be a racist than not. And it's not even real either, it's like based on fake algorithms and outrage propaganda spread online. Immigrants may not all be angels but the overwhelming majority aren't criminals, but none of that matters because online its too easy to spread the narrative that they are killing you and your country every second of every day instead of offering real solutions to improve anything.

>>81734196
thanks obama

dfuhuhisdh

>>81734196
Just dont enter the country illegally, its pretty simple retard.

>>81734250
the last 40 years you'd get legalized by the boomers when you stayed long enough so there was literally no consequence for their actions

>>81734196
good. i just hope they send more trannys to cecot

>>81734065
oh no no no no. this anon forgot about trump's initial border plans geeeeg.

>>81734250
Kinda hard to say this when every US company since the 1800s has been destabilizing Latin American countries to keep monopolies on fruits, mining, etc etc. Illegal immigrants are literally a you-reap-what-you-sow moment

>>81734406
and now hector is reaping

>>81734406
>corruption in other countries is America's fault
and other fairy tales for children

>>81734447
It's the CIA's fault, they're the worst part of America

>>81734447
Actually low IQ reply lol
>>81734421
Republicans need real solutions otherwise Dems will take the lead on the immigration issue for the next 20 years just like Repubs have. You can keep being racist about brown retards all you want but people will ultimately vote with their feelings because they are retarded in this country

>>81734406
>every US company since the 1800s has been destabilizing Latin American countries
I missed the part where that's my problem.

>>81734619
>it's not happening
>well, okay, it IS happening but who cares?

Why can't we end immigration AND have abortion rights?
Why can't we put a stop to endless Jewish wars AND put a stop to corporate greed?
Why can't we have religious freedom AND lgbtq rights?
Why are we forced to pick?

>>81734619
The part where glowies sell drugs back into the States to fund their ops

>>81734619
/pol/ has ruined your brain anon. Please kill yourself or go read a book

>>81734647
These questions stitched together are going to mindrape someone, anon.

>>81734680
So? I think people are more alike than they like to admit.

>>81734406
Latin America has been disrupting politics in Southern States since Texas joined the Union.
Why do you only recognize the influence one way, the CIA causing a coup in south America, but never measure it the other way, Hispanic immigrants from Latin America getting left wing candidates in California elected?

>>81733837 (OP)
Because American voters dont want to take responsibility for the country they live in so they blame democrats.
Even though they voted in the murder and rape people party.
>THEY JUST DIDNT TRY HARD ENOUGH!
>I NEED TO BE SPOONFED 24 7 AND TOLD NOT TO VOTE FOR A CONVICTED RAPIST!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BLOOD THIRSTY BOOMER WHO LOVES ISRAEL DOESNT CARE ABOUT ZAZA VS THE MILQUETOAST HEYTHATSNOTVERYNICE DEMOCRAT THEYRE THE SAME ACTUALLY
People just dont have any civic responsibility, thats why so many people are falling for the DA BILLYUNAIR WUN PERCENT talking points even though they voted them in lmao.

>>81735056
Because it doesn't exist. Stop making things up. American companies have actual political power in Latin America. Latin American countries are either extensions of US foreign policy or shitholes. Stop pretending like it's an equivalent exchange of political influence, you're not going to pretend that a company like United Fruit has somehow been abused by whatever shithole Latin American country has been destabilized by the CIA.

>>81734654
oh nooo dont hurt the poor honest crackheads ;( i really wish i had open borders now

>>81735157
What they taught the Mexicans allowed them to run fent through their ports for the Chinese for the past 10 years and destroy white communities

>>81735137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift
This was Latin America influencing American politics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_boom
This was Latin America influencing American economics, politics, and health.

>>81734196
in 2008 democrats used to run on more border security, more deportations, and if you come here legally you need to speak fucking english. why is that controversial to say now?

>>81735414
is that what ICE is doing? checking if people speak english? They're fucking deporting people that have lived here for longer than you've been alive

>>81733837 (OP)
The uniparty is trending to the right for now (in a safe and moderated way). You shouldn't have voiced support for Palestine goy.

>>81734027
Obama era deportations were defined as turning someone away at the border. The focus on internal removals now is why there's a net decrease in immigrants. Illegals flooded in heavily during both the Obama and Biden administration because internal removals weren't the focus.

The cruelty and arrogance of America is fully demonic
>completely warp and shape all of Latin America in your image for the past 200 years (ever heard of the MONROE DOCTRINE)
>destabilize, coup, install puppet regimes at a whim (remember Trump trying to invade Venezuela during his first term?)
>use the entire region as a playground for the drug trade, private military contractors, the CIA, etc
>people try to flee to the Imperial heartland of the actual USA
>have a schizophrenic policy of letting them in to work, but treating them as slaves, but also deporting them sometimes, or maybe letting them stay IDK it changes every 4 years or something
>have a huge chunk of MAGA chuds who gleefully cheer on this mummers farce

>>81735480
>The cruelty and arrogance of America is fully demonic
They don't care that Trump is a kike loving faggot.

>>81735480
The schizophrenic policy should still work to cut down their migrations overall though. Why risk coming here when you're guaranteed to be removed when one party is in power? No amount of promises by the other one is going to erase that from their minds now. It's also extremely unlikely the dems will cut 80% of the ICE budget in the future, even if they eased up a bit the organization is going to be massive by 2028, ensuring they're more effective from then on.

>>81735480
If we left South America to their own devices, Brazil would still have slavery

>>81735568
It's weird to bring that up when you all never seemed to give a fuck about any of it.

>>81735597
700,000 Americans died to end slavery in the US civil war
Do you know how many Brazilians died to end slavery?

>>81735627
>700,000 Americans died to end slavery in the US civil war
Pardon me. I meant relatively recently.
>Do you know how many Brazilians died to end slavery?
Likely not much. But again...

>>81735627
would you die for anything or is that a bit of a reach into the past?

>>81735647
I would die to end abortion. How about you?

>>81733837 (OP)
Because they don't think the American people are on board with them after they lost the popular vote. They're afraid to tie themselves to an issue that risks their seats. Neither party strongly believes much of what they're saying, it's more about stringing along the impressionable people that think they care. Notice how even the candidates like Bernie Sanders backpeddled in discussions on immigration this year compared to 2020 when he and every other dem candidate was openly in favor of granting illegal immigrants taxpayer funded healthcare in the US on that primary stage in the summer. The fact that Harris tried running on supporting a border wall in five years should indicate they're all full of shit. And given that was pre election it was probably done after internal polling forced a policy shift.

>>81733885
he needs to win elections first. as long as i'm allowed to attack both troonery and trump, i'll sign up, even though i think elon is kind of ketamine addled at this point.

do you think if i just started calling myself the chair of the america party of new jersey people would believe me?

>>81733949
>The purpose of government is to protect the border, full stop.

Poor people have the right to home ownership, medical, and healthy food.

>>81735732
What does that mean?
American have a right to bear arms. Does that mean if you are poor the government will buy you a glock?
Americans have a right to a free press. Does that mean the government sends you a printing press if you cannot afford one?
I thought a right to healthcare was like Right to Try laws, where you would be allowed to take medication that hasn't been approved by the FDA yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-try_law

>>81734168
Too many browns to have universal health care. Get them out of here first. Deport all of the dreamers too and their children and grandchildren. Not real Americans. They are illegals.

>>81735784
Im skeptical of it working at that point, even with a lot of fat illegals out the average american is still fatter than most of Europe. It'd be a massive drain on any universal Healthcare system, waiting periods probably far worse than Canada or the UK.

>>81735732
Poors actively avoid healthy foods even when they're cheaper in favor of sodas and junk food though. No amount of money is going to fix the nonexistent impulse control that is required to be poor in the US.

>>81735821
What conditions would you impose for citizens to have free health care? Mandatory fitness levels and diet?

>>81735850
Something like that or just a fat tax like Japan has maybe.

>>81735856
if you meant specific fitness levels I'm willing to be generous and say if you don't qualify as obese with a bmi over 30 you're fine, leaving enough room for muscular/"big boned"/other copes.

>>81734034
>democrat leadership is out of touch old boomers.
You dropped your parenthesis, here are some: ((()))
We really only have two parties, the "proud to be Israel first" and the "We're also Israel first but not as loud and pushy about it".