Why are there no non-whorish women around past 21? Asking for a friend

>>81743970 (OP)
There are but its usually the ones with no experience (I am an example, I have friends that are similar)

>>81743970 (OP)
They exist but they largely exist outside of large social circles meaning they are incredibly difficult to find unless you already know them.

They also tend to develop a (somewhat understandable) fear that most guys just want to hook up and are paranoid toward men.

>>81743970 (OP)
Because women need validation from men. For a woman to stay virgin past 21 she'd need to stay indoors and ignore the onslaught of men trying to date them completely.
>>81743996
You will never be a woman.

>>81743996
>I have friends that are similar
The reason you're single is because youre waiting for chad

>>81743970 (OP)
why does she need to be past 21

>>81744016
>>81744026
I thought this said men
I am running on fumes

>>81744015
>Paranoid towards them
Every foid I've seen that "just wants to be loved" here is secretly trying to sift through dozens of guys to find the few chadlites that lurk here. Women with no experience are even worse at this. The current era is hopeless

>>81744026
The reason you're similar is because you're waiting for Stacy. We all have standards, anon, and we are all entitled to them
Hence why I am going to be alone until I find what I'm looking for (probably forever)

>>81744044
Obviously there's tons of men that are single and sexless past 21

>>81744055
This is just a common tactic to justify your choices. Most guys don't want a Stacy. I can't stand Stacy, I can't stand normies, but I'm also tired of the only women really showing any interest being pickmes that move from guy to guy as easily as they breathe

>>81744055
*single
Not similar, I am having a stroke
>>81744046
Can you blame them? Most of the dudes here I wouldn't consider good relationship material. I probably ain't even good relationship material and I have a job and a place to live.

>>81744055
>We're all entitled
No you're entitled. You're part of the reason society is collapsing
>>81744080
I'm single because of the above. And what's the point in working when people just refuse to promote men without spouses? How exactly do you move out when it takes two people to split rent in most cities

>>81744077
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that women have a higher biological value and they can be pickier. To make up for that we have to compete.

Is it fair? Absolutely not. But it's real. And yeah, stacies are gay as fuck. I wish I had some fuckin nerd to sperg out with about obscure movies and internet memes but I don't and have no idea if I ever will.

I refuse to date a feminist. Simple as.

>>81744109
I had this at one point but they all eventually find something to get annoyed at. You can't have any problems in the relationship or suddenly it's "you don't love me for who I am". It's absolutely fucking bonkers. What I need more than just someone who plays Vidya is someone I can grow close to. That's just not happening anymore

>>81743970 (OP)
your parents put you in a fallen world

>>81744124
Based anon, never settle for insane ones

Every older woman I met who is still single turns out to either be a drug addict slut with a long list of past escapades, or someone like >>81744055, entirely delusional and entitled

>>81744092
>You're part of the reason society is collapsing
I'm not going to settle for a 2/10 used hole and I don't think a (decent) girl should have to settle for a neurotic asshole that feels he is owed a virgin tradwife by virtue of existing. As I already said, we have to compete. Better yourself and then start looking for a good woman. Or don't and stay lonely, choice is yours.

>what's the point in working when people just refuse to promote men without spouses
What are you on about?

>How exactly do you move out when it takes two people to split rent in most cities
Well living in a city is dumb. Work in the city but live in the 'burbs outside of it. A 30 minute commute is worth making a few extra dollars without selling your kidneys for rent.

Anyway, there's a couple options for moving up. Trades are always good if you can get a pulse for what is needed in your are. Pay starts out as shit but after a couple years you'll make enough to afford a mortgage. My dumb ass joined the military and then got a decent armed security gig. Some people do college and get an engineering degree. You just have to play your cards well.

>>81743970 (OP)
lol youre so optimistic
its actually past 14

>>81743996
Where do I find femoids like you irl?

>>81744125
>What I need more than just someone who plays Vidya is someone I can grow close to.
Wasn't what I meant, I was just talking about having mutual hobbies. But yes, genuine people are almost impossible to come by and even the good ones are constantly being bombarded with propaganda to rip them away from anything healthy.

We live in a fallen world. The best we can do is keep trying and hope for the best.

>>81744155
>entirely delusional and entitled
The point I'm making is that none of us are entitled. We have standards. Would (You) settle for a 400 pound whore that used to get run through by packs of niggers, or would you pass that up if offered to you?

I'm a 30 year old femoid with a body count of 2 (long term relationships). Do y'all incels think I'm a whore?

>>81744184
nta but just so you know they are usually ugly/obese

>>81744214
Probably not, but I'd have to know more about you. Sometimes long term relationships start through hoe-bagging.

>>81744214
Yes, but if you date me, you can be my lovely whore :)

>>81744230
I've never had casual sex before, I just don't feel like I could trust someone I don't know with my body.

>>81744318
Then you're probably not a whore, just someone who made mistakes. I've only got a body count of one but I'm a single dad now. I don't consider myself to be a player or whatever, and I kinda wish I had my virginity back. I would assume you're in a similar boat.

Reminder that some wammin believe that giving blow jobs "doesn't count" so you can easily double most women's bodycounts on this fact alone.

>>81744398
No not really. After I lost my virginity I realized it really meant nothing in the first place. I lost it to my ex fiance and even though hes not a great person I don't hugely regret it. I took my current boyfriends virginity. He was a 23 year old kissless virgin before we started dating. I'm his first and only, which is sweet. I do kinda wish he was my first and only too.

>>81744478
>After I lost my virginity I realized it really meant nothing in the first place
I would argue that innocence has a lot of value, and that not giving it the emphasis it deserves is something of a character flaw.

I hope things work out for you and your guy though. Hopefully you two care about one another.

>>81743970 (OP)
Even whore still want Chad. They don't want a brown sea monkey manlet

>>81744198
Nobody's asking you to settle for the equivalent of that 400 lb whore, but we both know the equivalent of that to you is an average or slightly below average guy of average weight.

>>81744161
>Retard who works security talking as if he knows shit about shit
Kekd

>>81744214
OP here, I'm near your age with a similar bc. I don't think you're a whore but I'm literally never meeting or dating anyone like you. Atp I'm just going to kms

>>81744533
I guess I never really felt that innocent before. I had been consuming porn on 4chin since the age of 12

>>81744583
Don't give up hope, anon. One day you'll find someone cute who's not a single mom

>>81744572
>retard who doesn't make $35 an hour shit talking someone who does
Zozzle

>>81744563
Are you "the average guy" or are you a neurotic shitposter complaining about women on a Laotian insect collector forum? Average dudes tend to have a place to live (even if it's a shitty one bedroom apartment) their own car and a job.

And to take my analogy further, would you settle for a 250 pound girl that's only been ran through by Tyrone and Daquis? We all have standards bro. Quit trying to act like standards are evil. Do some women have standards way higher than what they realistically deserve? Yes. Such women also tend to be shallow and insufferable. Desiring a woman like that in the first place tells me your priorities are fucked.

>>81744670
>Doesn't address anything that was said
Fuck outta here retard

>>81744639
One day when exactly? All women like that are the same. I'd kill for a woman that isn't obese and isn't easy yet everyone I've talked to is the type to whine about no bf while being picky as fuck. It's always "I'll take any guy no matter what", yet when they see me it's "oh I thought you'd be ugly you don't look bad" followed up with "I'm not interested in you". It's all a charade to sift through men and find the good looking guys they actually want.
>>81744670
On top of all that you have to be gaslit by people like this who claim that the equivalent of a slightly below average guy is a fat ugly landwhale

>>81744214
I wouldn't say a whore, but definitely not someone to date. If it didn't worked out after a long time the problem is you or you're a retarded that chose a bad guy, either way the problem is you

>>81744606
That's a shame, but I did too. I just also thought a lot of the person I gave my virginity to, and I regret that I shared such an experience with her rather than with someone who would have been better to me and stuck around. Now I don't get to have that first time ever again, and I don't know that I even want to try any more.

>>81744681
>>Doesn't address anything that was said
What do you want me to address? I argued that you likely have as most of us here do a lower than average desirability for women. I am a pudgy autistic single dad and most quality women really ain't into that. Claiming that average dudes can't find sex is fallacious because the average dude has multiple sexual partners across his lifetime.

And yes, I do mean median and not mean.

>>81744705
>to be gaslit
I am going to tell you the truth. Whether or not you want to hear it is your own prerogative.

>>81744712
Don't beat yourself up, hon. You couldn't have known that she wouldn't stick around. It's not your fault at all.

>>81744800
>It's not your fault at all
Oh but it is. We are all the architects of our destruction, and my decisions fall on no one but me.

>>81744706
you're a dumb retard

>>81743970 (OP)
Because you're a pedo and your definition of whore is "adult woman"

>>81744706
There is no "problem". My ex abused me and also cheated on me so I left him and now I'm in a healthy long term relationship. But yes, the problem is always the woman. If a man turns abusive it must always be the woman's fault.

>>81744214
How many dicks have you sucked. Honestly

>>81744771
Address the fact that the male equivalent of "300 lb whore" isn't you, it's a guy around 30 that's not fat but not chad either. If he's white he'll be below average, if he's nonwhite he can be average but will still be viewed as trash.

>>81745428
Literally 2

>>81745193
Not at all. My definition of whore is "has multiple men messaging her". I don't care if she's not a virgin
The fembot that's 30 with a bc of 2 in this thread isn't a whore, for example.

>>81745453
>If he's white he'll be below average, if he's nonwhite he can be average but will still be viewed as trash.
Imagine taking internet memes this fucking seriously.

According to all gathered data whites (both male and female) are the most desirable race on the planet. (You) have let pornography and propaganda shape your entire worldview and don't even realize it.

>it's a guy around 30 that's not fat but not chad either.
Sure. And if I was an attractive guy in my early twenties I wouldn't fuck around with a mid 30 year old woman. But again the average guy has multiple sexual partners. You have a legitimate disconnect with reality Anon.

>>81744670
>Average dudes tend to have a place to live (even if it's a shitty one bedroom apartment) their own car and a job
This really doesn't cut it ESPECIALLY when women are young, most aren't looking for beta bux are they? High school girls and college girls will fuck hot guys on a piece of cardboard, then act like it never happened

>>81745503
I just wanted to post my Clerks picrel :(

>>81744026
you're waiting for a fictional woman who has never fantasized about another man, at least chad is realistic

>>81743970 (OP)
The good ones get snatched up young, what's left are just playthings for chad.

>>81745541
Fantasizing is cute, especially if it's hopeless

>>81745526
That's my point. White guys have it easier, but still suffer if they're below average. The average ethnic guy suffers a ton, especially if he's westernized and has to deal with women in a Western country.
You're just a creaky old fuck who takes the age=wisdom thing too seriously.
Hell you can barely even read and comprehend half of what I'm saying.

>>81745529
>This really doesn't cut it
Except it does. I have seen it. My best friend is a semi scrawny regular dude who was in and out of relationships all through his 20s. He had a one bed and shitty Mazda.

>>81743970 (OP)
>Why are there no non-whorish women around past 21?
Dumbest shit I've read today thus far. There are literally millions of washed up old skanks everywhere. Go the fuck outside, moron.

>>81745541
Absolutely not. Like I said, the 30 year old Nona with two dicks under her belt isn't a whore, she's clearly fantasized about other men but hasn't chased tons of dicks. You're just a slut coping. All woman should be like her but instead men get women like you gaslighting us

>>81745598
>Skinny loser white guy gets women
Shut up already boomer, how delusional can you be

>>81745193
>to be an adult you need to be a whore
Normalfags are infinitely more misogynistic than incels and it's funny how they don't notice it

>>81745393
>If a man turns abusive it must always be the woman's fault
Translation
>I chose abusechad but somehow that isn't my fault because I'm a woman and women never are at fault

>>81745721
He was not a chad, he was a fat fucking nerd and we were together for years before he became abusive. I tried to stick it out with him and I even got him help, but nothing changed.

>>81744214
I just hate you for being a sexhaver

>>81745746
Nta but what's "abusive" here? Did he just stop giving you the attention you craved after you acted like a bitch to him?

>>81745583
>That's my point.
Then the way you worded shit is trash.

>average ethnic guy suffers a ton,
Good, then get the fuck out of my country.

>You're just a creaky old fuck who takes the age=wisdom thing too seriously.
Nigger I am a 28 year old divorcee, I just touch grass. You live online and project the gayest possible worldview while claiming you are entitled to something inherently competitive. You are alone and it is chiefly your fault. Does the dating scene suck? Yes. But people are out there being successful at it every day. Half of them are male, half are female. (You) need to get out of the echo chamber that is this Crimean yak shearing image board and figure out what the problem with (You) is.

>>81745767
I don't think I'm going anywhere you pudgy faggot. Also I'm older than you and also divorced. I'm not sure why you're here white knighting women. You may be a fat balding piece of shit but that's not all of us

>>81745611
I met his girlfriends you fucking double nigger. He didn't get married until last year and has probably been with around 12 girls in total.

>>81745762
No, because that's not abusive. He hit me and screamed at me constantly over things he did himself. Why are you so quick to defend an abusive man you don't know?

>>81745785
>Has been with 12 women
What exactly are you disproving here?
You're delusional

>>81745777
>I'm not sure why you're here white knighting women
I ain't white knighting. Most people, to include women, are fuckin assholes. But taking zero accountability for yourself being alone is stupid. I am alone, and it is my fault. You are alone, and it is your fault. That is how this shit works. You are not owed a gf by the heavens.

>You may be a fat balding piece of shit
Fat? Yes. Balding? No. My mane is luxurious and wavy.

>>81745794
>delusional
I shook their hands you assblasted brownoid. Normal people can get girls. We're they quality women? Fuck no, most of them had BPD. But he still got them and they were all about average chicks.

>>81745792
Okay then that's shit.
and I wasn't defending him, I'm just projecting my experiences. All I seem to get are women that will just never ever talk about anything that you have an issue with, instead proceeding to tell you that you don't love them for who they are. I've already accepted that I'll never find a normal woman like you

>>81745598
I had a good friend who killed himself after a divorce in his 30s, he was a solid regular guy who was military. I have another supposed friend who was a narcissist pushing 40, but a former D1 athlete and running pub crawls while volunteering in a hostel (so no car, no job, drug user), claimed to have fucked 50 women over a few months of summer. Funny how anecdotal examples work

>>81745746
>before he became abusive
Yeah, because people drastically change for no reason at all

>>81745838
>I had a good friend who killed himself after a divorce in his 30s, he was a solid regular guy who was military
Hate to hear it if true. Branch and MOS?

>another supposed friend who was a narcissist pushing 40, but a former D1 athlete and running pub crawls while volunteering in a hostel (so no car, no job, drug user), claimed to have fucked 50 women
Right, what I gave you isn't a wild example. 12 is a bit high, sure, but the average is something like 6. A regular dude - median salary - normal circumstances, if you factor out the top and bottom of the data by finding the median has around 4 female sexual partners. If you cannot find a girl, you are less successful than a regular dude for whatever reason.

I, for example, have been a shut in since I left the service and leave my home to go to work, church, the gym, and to buy groceries. My social life is very inactive, hence no girlfriend. That is not society's fault, it is mine.

>>81745879
>people drastically change for no reason at all
Not entirely unbelievable and doesn't have to be for no reason. Guy I knew from High-school was a smack addict and cheated and beat up on his girl. Before he had a bad surgery he was a fine and upstanding guy who never would have done it but he got hooked on oxys which led to heroin. Life fucks people up.

>>81745930
Combat Engineer, ISAF deployment, won't say more. RIP buddy.
>If you cannot find a girl, you are less successful than a regular dude for whatever reason
I think you're focused on the wrong thing. We can always look downwards and say 'at least I'm not that guy'. But can you or I find the relationships we really want? Are we really happy with chad running wild through the dating pool while women don't understand and blame it on regular guys? You cannot factor out the top and bottom while the middle vanishes.

>thread hijacked by a bunch of sex having American military bros
Get out of my thread. Now.

>>81745816
I'm sorry. I have a few friends like that, won't say whats wrong in their relationship until it builds up and becomes resentment. Resentment is the killer of love imo. It's better to talk things out, maybe have a small argument, make sure your piece is said, and move on from the issue together.

>>81745980
>Combat Engineer, ISAF deployment, won't say more. RIP buddy.
I was in 3ID for a while, never got a combat deployment. I've seen what it does to some people though. Hope he's doing better upstairs.

>Are we really happy with chad running wild through the dating pool while women don't understand and blame it on regular guys
You ought not be chasing girls that run after chad any ways but if your problem is the way that women idealize men or the general sentiment that being a whore is okay you aren't even looking at women (at least not the majority) if you want the root of the problem.

Maybe 30% of girls are really whores, and that's probably an overestimate, the issue is that these are the most vocal and socially active ones as they crave attention and actively take steps to make their presence known, which DOES influence other women. This delves deeply into politics, media, and algorithmic programming as such behaviors were once shamed but are now encouraged by our every day media consumption. The average woman isn't to blame for society it's our political establishment, the media, etc... Yes a woman who falls for it is at fault for falling for it, but so is a man that falls to MGTOW/Andrew Tate horseshit which is an increasingly larger percentage of the male populace. The reality is that there are still good people out there. If you want to attract good people, exude virtue. I can't tell you how to get a girlfriend because that's never really been my focus but I know that if you can surround yourself with good people it'll at least give you feelers that will reach out and increase your chance of success.

>>81746038
Like I said, never finding a woman like this. "Arguing" is the last thing most women want to do

>>81743970 (OP)
>Why are there no non-whorish women around past 21?
Jews.

>>81746189
Thanks anon, sane take. You take care of yourself too.