I love being a radfem as a zoomer in my early 20s. Who's anti-porn and against the idea of porn being "work" for women.
Men *hate* you.
Even some women hate you.
And it feels so good to be seen as the "scum" of society just because you're trying to protect girls and women.

Sex work isn't work.

>>81767325 (OP)
>I love being a radfem as a zoomer in my early 20s
would you peg me tho?

>>81767334
That's exactly what I said. It's not "work", it's men purchasing women for their bodies. It's degenerative and sets women back. Porn needs to be banned and erased.

>>81767334
radfems are anti sex work you dumb fuck

>>81767325 (OP)
Why are you boiling radical feminism down to porn lmao.
Plenty of people are against porn because it's degrading, disgusting, possibly dangerous and massively damages interpersonal relationships, so I and many others are with you on that.
Pro porn people are retarded, but they don't exclusively hate you for your opinion on porn

>>81767325 (OP)
I don't hate radfems, although I obviously wouldn't get along with one as someone who watches porn. I agree prostitution is pretty terrible though

>>81767334
As a male who does OnlyFans, it's a lot of money in a short time, but it ain't easy money. Customs, sexting, cameras, communication with BPD whores, building online presence, working out three times a week.

>>81767325 (OP)
radfem females should date male feminist incels but yall would rather still go for hypermasculine dominant confident trad chads than settle for timid soft nice guy incels. Your standards are bullshit and you'd throw all your ideals away at the slightest indicator that you could get chad to fuck you if you did

>>81767429
You're such a reoccurring character whenever the topic of feminism comes up and I appreciate your existence anon.

>>81767325 (OP)
foids don't deserve protection. in fact, they should be seen as enemies of the state

I'm 35 and have so much porn it's unreal

Do you want me to die? Cuz I kind of want to
I think we have a mutual goal
You do support moids having access to assisted suicide clinics and/or Kevorkian devices, right?

>>81767325 (OP)
Get laid lol.
You're whole ideology is based on not being able to pull.

>>81767434
i only keep reoccurring because females keep doing the same thing

>>81767334
Yeah fr fr. Zoomer women think being a sex worker is admirable. They'll sell some pictures of themselves in their underwear and call themselves sex workers.

>>81767429
>radfem females should date male feminist
Males can't be feminist. Maybe read radfem ideology before speaking this libfem nonsense.
Rest of your post is cope. Just go out, seriously.
>>81767466
>35 and still addicted to porn
>Do you want me to die?
Probably.

>>81767729
>Males can't be feminist. Maybe read radfem ideology before speaking this libfem nonsense.
Males can agree with feminist ideas and support feminist policy and values. The debate over "whether men should call themselves feminist or not" is mostly hair splitting. A guy like John Stoltenberg can call himself feminist or can say "well ackshually im not a feminist because its problematic and yada yada yada" but he's still effectively a feminist.

Stop being so picky and date male radfem supporter incels. I shouldnt have to be single and its not fair you only want chads

>>81767472
I had 2 relationships.
Why do men think everything is about fucking? Why do men need to bring sex in everything?

>>81767325 (OP)
I dont care about your special girl pickme antics and im not a religious numbnut, all i know is that porn addict coomers and whores are mentally ill and should either seek medical treatment or be executed or forced into labor camps

>>81767497
>>81767497
>Zoomer women think being a sex worker is admirable
And who is to blame for that?
Older generations of men (and women) who glamorise sex work for young women and literally psyop them into that.
Young girls don't wake up one day and just go "I will open OF!", no, someone groomed them into thinking that's somehow "feminist and empowering".

>>81767793
>And who is to blame for that?
jews

>>81767497
>>81767793
They dont.
It's coping old hags who wasted their youth in jewish grooming circles

>>81767767
>Males can be feminists

>>81767812
Wow, a nazi meme! I'm sure that in this day and age where its literally seen as cooler to be openly right wing than openly left wing, that the guys openly claiming to be the cringe hated ideology are just doing so for approval, and that the nazis are really the ones who have womens best interests in mind!

Its not 2017 anymore

>>81767776
>Got called pick me as radfem
Shouldn't you call me a feminazi instead?

>>81767768
>Why do men need to bring sex in everything?
You talk about porn and sex a lot

>>81767830
Most of these "male feminists" abuse women at any chance they got.

>>81767807
Is that how you call generations older than zoomers?
They're grooming younger girls into porn industry.
>>81767810
You could have made such a good point but then you used the word "hag".

>>81767846
You tried to use sex as way to "shut down" radfem ideology. I didn't do such thing.

>>81767915
Hag is endearing you hag

>>81767389
>radfem
>wants to put women back where they belong
you sound like my grandmother

>>81767831
>>Got called pick me as radfem
unironically yes
the men who agree with your views want you back in the kitchen

>>81767831
You're all different favors of pickmes and whores for all i care, women cant form their own thoughts without some backing by men

>>81767915
>Is that how you call generations older than zoomers?
no. they own the porn industry

>>81767325 (OP)
>you're trying to protect girls and women.
That's just a new brand, a new badge you wear. It's all the same shit in the end. Old feminism, new feminism, different branches and churches of the same visceral hatred of the male.

Females are men's biological enemies, simple as. Always have been, always will be.

>>81767944
Removing porn from society and shutting down OF would benefit all generations of women.
"Sex work" is a disgusting patriarchal practice that has somehow embedded itself into feminism.
Women are being forced into sex work, being exploited in order to survive, and you chose it as your side hustle. If you do this you contribute to very industry that exploits women, even little girls, victims of human trafficking, and that objectifies, hunts and victimises all women.

>>81767882
>Most
Nah. SOME do, but there's bad people in any group. Still better to try and get more people in the tent and be open to those who want to support good things, than to use the minority of bad apples to just... give up on all positive change i guess? while parroting literal nazi propaganda? The nazis aren't going to be better for women than even the dull insufficient moderate liberals, even with all their problems

>>81767960
Cope.
>>81768012
>Females are men's biological enemies, simple as. Always have been, always will be.
Awesome.
If you ever chosed to treat women as humans this wouldn't happen. Deserved.

>>81767970
Yes, millennials, gen X, etc own the porn industry and they're grooming zoomers girls into this on purpose.

>>81768059
Millennials own fuck all they're all childless working dead end jobs

>>81768048
>If you ever chosed to treat women as humans this wouldn't happen. Deserved.
Delusional, it has nothing to do with morality. You are just an animal failing to contain your mammal instincts.
Nearly all mammals live in sex segregation because females of these species can't tolerate the presence of the male, regardless of the male's behavior.

You are an animal and you are men's biological enemy forever, your entire being is defined by being anti-male and that's why men are forced to deal with you in some way until they can find an alternative solution.

I accept that you are my enemy and I have no illusions of reconciliation, men are justified in using any tool at their disposal against you because you are a hostile lifeform.

>>81768071
It's mostly millennials who are promoting, working, and paying for this shit.

>>81768059
being this obtuse just outs you as a loser with nothing better to do than to bait other losers

>>81768092
It's true. How does a teenage girl know about sex work if it's not older people promoting it to her?

>>81767325 (OP)
>MGTOW but for women
You're also losers

>>81768028
the most sexually repressed countries didn't magically make sex trafficking and abuse go away, it just happens behind closed doors

>Women are being forced into sex work, being exploited in order to survive,
good thing this absolutely doesn't happen in repressive shitholes
absolutely no rape happens in the middle east or india

>>81768110
>trying to convince a hostile lifeform with words
lmao

I want to fill OPs ovaries with my thick pervert load while she cries and blushes because she cant keep a straight stoic strongwoman tm face

>>81767729
>Probably.
OK then answer the rest of the question
The life of a moid, at least moids like myself, is miserable for both him and all he interacts with

Why don't you advocate for access to clean, efficient, reliable suicide centers?
BASICALLY, without getting too bogged down with details:
>moid walks in
>goes to room 105 or whatever
>gets a strong morphine/sedative injection
>maybe some calming music plays
>hooked up to inert gas like Helium
>half hour later or so
>body wrapped in tarp, incinerated

Women are freed from moid. Moid is freed from his inherently miserable existence. Everyone wins, no one has to deal with the costly messiness of amateur, "solo" suicide. Or worse, suicidal violence like mass shootings

>>81768083
>Calling women animals and hostile lifeforms
>Meanwhile this is what men do LOL
Should men even be considered humans?

>>81768145
hot. i wish all feminist threads would be full of anons writing their smut

>>81768110
It happens everywhere and porn/ porn industry helps it.

>>81768145
>>81768150
>Sex pest
>Male
Always

>>81768149
>cherry picking examples
You got nothing to say, this is literally all you can do, repeat the same ass accusations over and over again, abuse fallacies, cherry pick because you must feed your surroundings the idea that you have some kind of moral high ground on account of being female(the only virtue that you can understand).

I repeat, in any social environment the human female is an externalized, superorganic autoimmune disease, openly hostile to the male. Any place you colonize becomes feminized and LESS valuable because of your presence.

>>81768146
Finally, a moid with a good idea.

>>81768191
i can't bear to watch that webm :(
why are some people so fucking sadistic

>>81768191
Nta but it's males who have less value than women
Your copes are crazy

>>81768188
I'm not interested in your arguments currently
Every bounce on my cock is a poor girl that i didn't "exploit" by jerking off to her, you could be saving lifes rn

>>81767423
post cock if you're not lying

>>81768200
Not trying to side with feminist, but dog could have cancer. In poor countries they just chop off animals limbs if they have tumors

OP is a bitter virgin lol.

>>81768146
they'll never support that because it makes them look mean. It's why you see feminists complaining about rape but never mentioning minorities.

>>81768165
would you be happy if everyone just ai generated their porn instead

>>81768191
>Man talking about cherry picking
Should I laugh?

Also kill yourself for posting that shit.

>>81768202
>Something needs to bounce on my cock otherwise I cannot control myself and had to exploit women
Subhuman

>>81768293
You just outed yourself when you posted the meme and told him to kill himself. You arent a woman. You arent one of us. Imagine hating women this much that you would larp as one online to create a false narrative for lonely sad men to follow. You are sad and choose to be.

>>81768263
Already told you, I had relationships before.
>It's why you see feminists complaining about rape but never mentioning minorities
Yeah, liberal feminists.

>>81768288
>would you be happy if everyone just ai generated their porn instead
Why men can't live without porn? Is it really that hard?

>>81768110
Bagged that freak

>>81768304
It's either you or the poor freshly 18** girl paying for her college transport.

>>81767325 (OP)
>>81767334
Sex work is one of the most respectable forms of work there is. You and OP are just haters who despise men and want to deprive them and any woman who works with them of pleasure. That's evil.

>>81768316
What the fuck are you even saying?? Wtf

>>81768332
If you can't control your sexual urges and have to find a way to hurt women because of it you need to be put in fucking jail.
And dumb fucks will say feminsim is useless.

Radical feminists have never protected anybody, not even the "women and girls" they claim to protect. They ruin every society they get a grip on with their politically illiterate, vindictive policies that helps no one. Gtfoh

>>81768342
Read this.
If this isn't enough then you need to ask yourself what is possibly wrong with you.
>>81768028

>>81768377
But liberal feminism absolutely did...

>>81768363
>>81768381
plapplapplappl applapplapplapplap
plapplplapplplapplplapplplappl

>>81768201
Finish elementary school, learn to read and then go through that again.
A male inhabited place focused on anything, be it just discourse, education, a hobby, anything, succumbs to female sabotage and instigation of conflict as soon as even just one of them arrives to colonize it.

I didn't even mention the inherent value of individuals, but if we're going to go there and get into disposability, what is the most commonly understood value of a female, even by their own declaration. What do they pride themselves on aside from being anti-male? Will you provide THAT value to your people? If you subtract that value, what do you actually produce?
>>81768263
>they'll never support that because it makes them look mean
That's true, women hate being confronted about their villainy, but the real reason is that they would start losing people they can actually perceive as human beings(females). Suicide is celebrated because it's mostly males, the out-group, the foreign object who are determined enough to go through with it, but soon as clean assisted suicide becomes easily accessible, it becomes a huge portion of all deaths, leagues above regular suicide in a ratio of 3 to 1 and 50% of MAID recipients are actually female.
>>81768293
>jumps from cherry picking to abusing base rate fallacy
Hostile organism equipped with the most rudimentary tools. What's next, you're going to bring up the 2 out of 100,000 pregnant women who get murdered and cite that as the leading cause of death during pregnancy?

>>81768381
*slaps you fat ass*
Smile!

>>81768342
I agree, sex is basic need that people need to fill but sometimes can't. Prostitution is the way to go.
>>81768028
people are exploited in all kinds of industries, doesn't mean we need to get rid of them. They just need to be regulated better.

>>81768028
>>81768381
It's just the same bullshit talking points with no proof. That you're an asexual prude or someone who like to clutch their pearls over people enjoying themselves isn't an argument. Some people like sex and make a career out of it completely out of their free will. There's no force or exploitation involved. You fake puritanical ideologues have always had a very hard time understanding that. Move to a shithole dictatorship country if you're looking for more of your attitude and see what it leads to.

>>81768394
Women get abused more than men every day, every hour, every minute. And it's men abusing them.
I'm not going to read your SHIT posting.
Feminism would have never be created if men didn't hated women. Fuck off.

>>81767325 (OP)
The only real difference between radfems and old school conservatives is their views on abortion, because conservatives believe that women at least have a duty to not commit infanticide. Aside from that, you're pretty much indistinguishable.

OP either gets married to some basedboy and calms down or she ends up a bitter old hag.
Either way she'll never be happy :( so be nice to her

>>81767325 (OP)
im also anti porn though?
im pro hentai thoughbeitswhomeverst

>>81767412
It's because despite her and other radical feminists' posturing, they still need male attention and approval to live because they're women. So they always talk about porn since A) a lot of men are ashamed of watching it and will reflexively agree with her unlike with other parts of her bizarre ideology she pretends to care about, plus B) porn detracts from the attention her boyfriend gives her, assuming she even has one.

>>81768392
Liberal feminism has its issues too but authoritarian versions of feminism is way worse. They're the sort of maniacs who wants to use the force of the state to enforce their gender based hypocrisy and legally punish, ostracize and steal from men simply for being men, earning more and for having different desires and objectives compared to women. Men would essentially be penalized for building civilization, maintaining it and protecting the vulnerable. Feminists love to hijack those societies and take credit for it.

>>81768145
Ovaries don't get filled with cum anon

>>81768405
>sex is basic need
Gooning 10 times a day is not a basic need.
>They just need to be regulated better.
Even if porn industry was "regulated better" it still damages women and brain of males. Later men will disrespect women more because of porn and circle continues.

>>81768441
Conservatives are at least a little more meritocratic, don't only focus on women and cares more about real issues. Radfems are socialists and if you see any retarded trend or reform being pushed, it's either crafted or actively supported by them.

>>81768415
>Has to threat me to make a point

>>81768437
>Feminism would have never be created if men didn't hated women.
Feminism had nothing to do with either abuse or the way men treat women. It's the manifestation, the written form, the religion of their primal, genetically wired mammalian hatred of the male.

Females can live lives that queens couldn't have dreamed of and they would still subscribe to the ideology because it's a socially acceptable outlet for their animal instincts.

>>81768483
>Gooning 10 times a day is not a basic need.
Except for a couple of /b/tards, no one does that. Don't strawman, folks. That's very disrespectful.
>Even if porn industry was "regulated better" it still damages women and brain of males.
I see you haven't read any studies regarding this. A common pattern among those who sound the most confident with the most radical proposals.

>>81768504
>pic
it's not the first time i see a woman saying that. women are psychopaths

>>81768504
>Feminism had nothing to do with either abuse or the way men treat women
Nice bait.
I won't engage in your shit lies anymore.

>>81768493
Telling you to move to the shithole countries that your ideas leads to isn't a threat. Are you trolling now?

>>81767393
Said who? You? Doesn't look like it to me.

Absolutely based. I would hate moids less if they didn't watch porn or went to prostitutes, didn't cheat and stopped projecting on us and obviously didn't try to fuck children and animals, or raw chicken

>>81768523
Feminists are ok with genital mutilation against boys but not against females. That's ""Equality"" for you.

>>81767325 (OP)
>And it feels so good to be seen as the "scum" of society just because you're trying to protect girls and women.
So it was never about protecting anyone, just feeling good about yourself
typical woman

>>81768443
>Either way she'll never be happy :(
Neither will porn addicts.

>>81768535
Taking women on dates to court and impress her, buy her food, provide gifts etc is also prostitution. Lol

>>81768540
>If you feel good about yourself as a woman while protecting other women it's bad
Typical male.

>>81768540
Feminists feel good about ruining society and making people hate them kek. Getting revenge on le evil men. There's never any reason or facts behind what they say or do. That's why they require so much governmental tyranny and censorship to get through their ideas.

>>81768526
It's affecting all countries, this society as whole.

>>81768571
You're not protecting anybody, tyrant

>>81768577
Liberal feminsim ruined society because it's fake feminsim and grows fast.

>>81768524
>I won't engage in your shit lies anymore.

Go through these questions anyway, as a thought experiment:

>Why can feminism(misandry) spread without any resistance amongst women in basically any type of society and social setting?
>Why is their message so alluring for women?
>Why does it feel so natural and possibly even euphoric for them to *be* against men?
>Why are they capable of discarding selfishness and act even against their own self-interests to take a stance against men?
>Why can basically anyone convince them to feel this way?
>Why can "out-of-the-box" women, who were never abused and were not exposed to any of this ideology be so easily convinced anyway?
>Why do they NEVER apply skepticism to any opinion or statement that paint their men in bad light and accept any such claim at face value?

and in contrast

>Why is it IMPOSSIBLE to convince them otherwise?
>Why does it always seem like that your words have absolutely no meaning from their perspective?
>Why do they ALWAYS apply skepticism to any positive claim made about men and keep assuming the worst even if proven wrong?

You will never be able to to explain this shit without accepting the fact that women are genetically wired to despise men.

>>81768586
Now you sound like a bot.

>>81767729
>Males can't be feminist.
>Maybe read radfem ideology
Why would I read about your ideology if I'm apparently too much of a male to grasp it?
Have you thought this through at all?

>>81768577
anon they are just confused. They all wish they could be the cute charming stacy.

>>81768512
i didn't say excessive masturbation was a basic need, i said sex. and it's not just for men, there's plenty of prostitutes (male and female) servicing women too.

i wish men were half as disrespectful and hypersexual as you say, it would certainly make my day more entertaining.

>Men come to this thread to say feminism suck
>They end up being misogynistic yet again and prove OP right
They got rekted ((again))

>>81768535
>Absolutely based. I would hate moids less if they didn't watch porn or went to prostitutes, didn't cheat and stopped projecting on us and obviously didn't try to fuck children and animals, or raw chicken
Males can't stop doing that, their sexual urges are stronger than their morals and will always be.

>>81768618
>Has to attack women's looks to prove his point
And men will say women are shallow.

>>81768618
>anon they are just confused. They all wish they could be the cute charming stacy.
its like the doctor needs to diagnose a chad dicking down once a week

>>81768535
And let me guess. After dropping the porn your next demand is I don't play video games, right? Because it's not about some ideological or moral reason, in fact it's because anything else is taking up your abusechad bf's male attention supply. And you just wanted to come let all the incel losers know about it because that's our fault somehow.

>>81768623
>They end up being misogynistic
I don't give a shit about these cheap labels anymore. I came to terms with the reality that women will always be men's enemies and will never think of men as their own people.

>>81768657
Do men think of women as their own people? Why men killed and abused women since begging of time?

>>81768647
that's why i think we need prostitution. most people would be happier if they had more orgasms

>>81768656
>After dropping the porn your next demand is I don't play video games, right?
No. Points you're making shows that you're 35+.

>>81768623
>((again))
what does this mean?

>>81768676
>We need prostitution because women are nothing but holes who need to help men achieve orgasm
>Why are so many women turning into feminists reee

>>81768618
Women are more depressed, take more pills and get "higher education" in pseudo scientific subjects like social studies. A PhD in gender studies doesn't mean you're smart or qualified to do any productive job of importance. They forcefully take tax money from men and artificially inflate their own wages in the public sector while practically doing nothing of value.
>but men are bad!

>>81768657
anon, don't be deceived by crazy extremists. most women like men
it's just culture trying to drive us apart
i think the divide was less strong in the boomer generation and it's getting worse now

>>81768685
It's always like this. Some woman made thread similar to OP and men come here just to shit about women and literally prove OP and feminsim right.

>>81768698
no... prostitution for both men and women, everyone needs to have sex

>>81768623
>Men debunked OP's points by providing rational arguments based on data and evidence
>this proves OP right!
KEK.

OP how often do you cry in bed?

>>81768721
what do the paranthesises mean

>>81768681
I'm a zoomer. It's a fact women try to get their bfs off video games as if they were as bad as porn. I happen to know what the through-line is between the two, and it's not some sanctimonious radical feminist thing.

>>81768699
>Gender studies
Americans kek

>>81768681
What's your next demand? What do you want men to do exactly?

>>81768698
>>We need prostitution because women are nothing but holes
There was this issue back in the old days

>>81768721
>Feminism
>Right
That's an oxymoron, anon.

>>81768723
>rational arguments based on data and evidence
More like projection.

>>81768741
There was issues women just weren't able to speak about it. Now that we can it makes men mad.

>>81768737
Studies about intersectionalist black feminist history or w/e and other adjacent anti intellectual studies (including gender studies) is a thing across Europe as well.

>>81768741
I think girls are more horny than guys

>>81768673
>Do men think of women as their own people?
Yes. They do. What's the thing that's addressed first when debate or action takes place concerning any collective threat
>our women and our children

I hope that will change in the future. Men can learn, they can adapt, overcome and rein in their animal instincts to a degree, they can learn to be less gynocentric.

>>81768702
I'm not so sure anymore, I don't think it's just some social phenomenon. It's just mammal nature, it's the way we're built. The female abhors the male and the male is expected to keep distance, this feeling is amplified a millionfold by population density and proximity. Strictly enforced sex segregation is the only way that can keep a lid on this.

>>81768766
>>I think girls are more horny than guys
>Women read rape fantasy novels
>Increasingly vote for policies that result them in getting raped
So they want to be raped by brown immigrants, white guys are weak incels, they need rape

so ive been shitposting in this thread for a while and im starting to wonder if you guys are actually for real and not shitposting and baiting like me

>>81768722
>"prostitution for both men and women"
Yet so many prostitutes are killed, drugged, abused while man just cum and leave.
Prostitution is only good for me.

>>81768656
No. I play videogames myself

>>81768722
>"prostitution for both men and women"
Yet so many prostitutes are killed, drugged, abused while man just cum and leave.
Prostitution is only good for meN.

>>81767325 (OP)
What if a woman wants to do prostitution or sex work? Are you ready to deny her that freedom?

>>81768833
It's not freedom and she's putting herself and other women in danger stop using this shit as freedom.

>>81768825
>Yet so many prostitutes are killed, drugged, abused while man just cum and leave.
Because theres no protections

>>81768787
>so ive been shitposting in this thread for a while and im starting to wonder if you guys are actually for real and not shitposting and baiting like me
>man realises him and other men are obviously responsible for this
>now he's trying to hide it with "uhh I actually just trolled you!"

>>81768851
Even if there were protections men would later abuse women. Porn literally ruin your brain.

>>81768787
I'm not joking. I am at this point convinced that humans follow the standard mammalian patterns and the female body simply abhors the presence of the male and can't co-exist with it for a prolonged time period because of genetic memory related to their bodies trying to resist Y chromosome "contamination".

Any arrangement that makes them live together is a prolonged fight, the female acts as an externalized immune system that tries to remove a splinter or a virus from the body(their environment). Think of marriage, think of the devaluation phase, the 7 year itch, the divorce rates, the divorce initiation rates. Women are naturally just built to keep rejecting and pushing the male away because they can't fucking stand them.

>>81768854
ive actually not even read the OP and that was my only post here
you just got double-trolled

>>81768869
>Even if there were protections men would later abuse women. Porn literally ruin your brain.
bad people are everywhere, I think it's unfair to frame men as the only people who do bad things and women as the embodiment of Gaia the Goddess of creation and nature.

>>81768777
i love the men in my life and i'd rather die than be seperated from them. even when most women say they hate men it's just a temporary sentiment born out of anger or frustration. don't get sucked into this online nonsense

>>81768896
>i love the men in my life
how long have you lived together with a man?

>>81768839
Cope, admit that you are ready to restrict other people's freedom to make transaction or you look weak and hypocritical.

Have feminists ever talked about hypergamy?

>>81768896
this is a sort of ragedump thread where OP dumps her sexual frustrations on virgin incels who probably don't even interact with women irl
very strange behavior but dont take it seriously. even the saltiest incel here knows there still are some good women out there and most of what happens on this board is bullshit satire

>>81768839
>>81768869
this completely infantilizes women and makes men sound like hypersexual apes without self control
>>81768825
no it's not just good for men. The female clientele might be smaller but it exists. And the male prostitutes are often really hot too in case you're interested

what exactly is the point of being against porn? if you dont like it for whatever aspects of it you think are detrimental to society or whatever fair enough, but what does this this somewhat militant stance against it really accomplish?
and what exactly are you doing to "protect girls and women" saying porn is bad and exploitative or something?
im not gonna argue porn isnt i dont really care, i just think this is one of those things where you never in a million years are gonna change it, porn is not going anywhere and never will, even if it becomes highly illegal, the industry will still thrive, just in a more dangerous state because without regulations which the black market would lack its way more dangerous for the women then it was before, maybe getting it banned isnt your goal, but i just mean to say no matter what you do no way will it ever go away under any circumstance, frankly the same would go even if the majority of the population was on your side
this is just one of those things where its probably better for your own peace to just accept what you cant change and move on
unless being upset about porn and the subsequent "battle" or whatever against it is actually something you enjoy and gives you purpose and meaning or something, in which place i cant hate godspeed

>>81768879
Porn turns men into bad people.
>>81768940
>and makes men sound like hypersexual apes without self control
That's how those me act.

>>81768934
>even the saltiest incel here knows there still are some good women out there and most of what happens on this board is bullshit satire
This is not true.
Male takes you read this is what they 100% thinks, this board has power to turn every single woman into man hater.

>>81768908
28 years. Most of the women in my life have unfortunately passed away.
>>81768934
It does have consequences in real life though. I work with young girls and boys and quiet a few have been sucked into these online bubbles and are just regurgitating arguments from either side that they see on Tiktok.

>>81768833
>Are you ready to deny her that freedom?
Yes, yes, they are. It's the whole point of their ideology.

>>81769011
>Freedom is when woman gets used as cum hole

>>81768996
I've never seen men act like that outside of those videos of women travelling to India. Where I'm from men mostly keep to themselves.
Do you think women are nonsexual creatures that would never consume porn or have sex if it weren't for men?

>>81768875
Did you hear that from your chinese AIbot friend deepseek?

>>81767325 (OP)
As a Marxist I don't hate you for "wanting to protect girls and women" I hate you for being intellectually shallow and focusing on surface level issues instead of the core issue that Capitalism is inherently exploitative and prostituting your labor to Walmart for minimum wage is no different from sex work once you eliminate the moralfaggotry and puritanism of sex. You're just wasting your time trying to convince people a specific class of work is le bad while all other forms of exploitation are fine, and people will immediately identify the contradictions in your logic and look down on you for only caring about women and girls whom are specifically involved in sex work when they never asked you to protect them and most wouldn't be doing sex work if they had other viable forms of labor available to them, but because sex work is exponentially more lucrative than being a bagger at Walmart, these women will actively choose sex work as a means of escaping the Capitalist grind as they find 2-3 years of OnlyFans preferable to spending 20-30 years grinding a dead-end job. In that sense they are able to show agency in their choice of sex work and you denying them this agency because "it's just le icky okay???" is just stupid teenager brain trying to moralize on behalf of other people with no regard for how it affects those people materially.

Read a book and grow up.

>>81769068
Aren't most feminists socialists, even communists?

>>81769037
That's a dark and sinister view of female sexuality and what sex is about and you're once again implying that there's no consent involved. Check your misogyny, girl. Not a good look.

I need to be punished for being a filthy moid I deserve to be spit and pissed upon and kicked in the balls until I throw up

>>81767423
Why do you choose to degrade yourself like this?

>>81768329
>Why men can't live without porn? Is it really that hard?
the urge to reproduce and fuck is one of the most basic human drives. if you want to get rid of horny men you have to castrate the entire male population

humans are coomers because that's what sex hormones do, men are aggressive because they've evolved to be the more violent half of our species
hentai and ai porn are as victimless of an outlet as it gets

what is the ideal world you wish to live in? what kind of society do you want?

>>81768940
>makes men sound like hypersexual apes without self control
puritanism starts with that assumption then proposes the ineffective solution of morally condemning it while not doing anything to alleviate it
but it's true that we descended from hypersexual apes

>>81769010
>28 years
Well, good for you. I hope you'll manage to overpower your animal instincts and live out your life in peace. Probably gets easier once you're older.

One more thing to mention:
>Avian species(birds) have an inverted chromosome system where the female carries the "foreign" chromosome(ZW, ZZ)
>Birds effortlessly pair-bond for life, share nests, form flocks

>Mammal species have a chromosome system in which the the male carries the "foreign" chromosome and it's injected to the female, resulting in a strong immune response(XX, XY)
>male exile is universally observed in mammal species except for outliers, lifetime pair-bonding is unheard of (beavers are possibly the only exception) 3-5% of them are socially monogamous and even less are genetically monogamous

To even assume that humans transcend biological imperatives that govern other mammals is absolutely ridiculous. At one point, people will have to come to terms with the reality that genes define much more than they are willing to accept.
I use misandry as an umbrella term to describe all of this and in that context it defines the mammal way of life and all we can do is defend ourselves from it, it's not going anywhere.

>>81769057
Those are my observations, summarized, I didn't ask the bot for anything except for possibly related statistics.

>>81769092
Feminists from first-wave to third-wave feminists were all Marxists but they tended to be at odds with conventional Marxism because it was a boys club of NEET men that only supported womens' liberation on a theoretical level and didn't practice it in their own lives.
Fourth wave feminists are all libcucked tumblr girlies that chase after wealthy men and fetishize the "liberated modern woman" that works in middle management of a tech startup and has no real life skills beyond creating value for her employer. Feminism becoming decoupled from Marxism has lead to its complete ideological deterioration into reactionary ideology like Mens Rights. It's just total nonsense that rots your brain.

One key point of contention between fourth wave feminism and all previous feminist thinking is regarding trans woman identity. Most of the women that came before the tumblr era were disgusted to find out "feminism" now encompasses men who fethisize and romanticize female identity as if it's something you can just subscribe to and not something you're born into and forced to live in. These people are literally cosplaying womanhood and then try to insert themselves into feminist spaces, and if you reject them you're called a TERF because now men are overrunning those spaces and will outnumber biological women to kick them out of their own space. It's fucking crazy.

>>81768012
>>81767325 (OP)

yo and op should just shut the fuck up, we could all live together happily supporting and loving eachother, but you dumb fucks just have to stirr up trouble everywhere and get the people worked up against each other. I agree with your take on porn, op, but you sound a bit performative and maybe should go out a bit. You guys are fucked by the algorithm hardcore and so am i. I hope one day i will leave the internet behind, and you two should chill out a bit

>>81769218
>Feminists from first-wave to third-wave feminists were all Marxists but they tended to be at odds with conventional Marxism because it was a boys club of NEET men that only supported womens' liberation on a theoretical level and didn't practice it in their own lives.
marxism is a dead ideology and just turns into normal authoritarianism every single time

>>81769206
there's no animal instinct to overcome anon. It's easy for us to live under the same roof because we care about each other. Humans are social creatures, we're at our best when we work together as a group. It's how humanity was able to overcome so much adversity.
What about you? How long have you lived together with a member of the opposite sex?
>>81769150
i just think society wouldn't be able to function if men were half as bad as op makes them seem

>>81769280
>we could all live together happily supporting and loving eachother
Me dumping my basement research hardly affects anything, but the things I pointed out are actually measurable and observable. You don't live in hostility because of people like me, all I ever do is point out the hostility you already live in and try to understand the reasons behind it.

>>81769311
>marxism is a dead ideology and just turns into normal authoritarianism every single time
You've never read a single Marxist work and are just parroting shit you heard from the TV man.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/index.htm
try reading from actual Marxists instead of believing the Jews

>>81769053
>Where I'm from men mostly keep to themselves.
So they still get those urges. And they act on it too. It's not just India. It's everywhere. Stop coping.

>>81768979
i read back you did say you want it to get banned
hate it as much as you please but you have to realize banning it will make it so much more dangerous and exploitative to women, kind of like prohibition of literally anything just makes everything worse
porn industry will go underground and since its not legal, no protection for women and standards for shit like std testing and whatnot, no enforced standard on pay so women will have their bodies be exploited and there will be nothing in place to ensure they are paid fairly, and it will probably make sex trafficking women a ten times more profitable venture
hate porn all you want, theres probably a good arguement in there somewhere against it, but banning it will accomplish the exact opposite of what you want

>>81769099
>That's a dark and sinister view of female sexuality
So you think prostitution is female sexuality? Great.

>>81769280
>we could all live together happily supporting and loving eachother,
We could but males don't want it that way. I don't care if I sound like I don't go out, it's a pure fact that women get abused more than men.

>>81769280
>You guys are fucked by the algorithm hardcore and so am i
I also love this shit by the way. Where were these boogeymen, the fucking internet and the algorithms in 1848? Misandry took the world by storm, do you think any of those slave drivers and their mental inpatient lackeys gave a shit about female votes? Do you actually believe that it wasn't simply about BEING against men? It worked back then and it works now, the internet isn't anything more than more reliably and continently delivered pamphlets.
Takes two fucking minutes to turn any woman into a full blown misandrists because that's how they feel by default.

>>81769354
horrible people have horrible urges, women included. what i mean is men aren't acting on it in a way that affects my day to day life in anyway. unlike in india where i wouldn't step outside out of fear

>>81769403
>continently
*conveniently
fucking autocorrect

>>81769316
>i just think society wouldn't be able to function if men were half as bad as op makes them seem
history is barbaric, and the oldest profession is so for a reason
foids have more to fear from moids than the other way around regarding violence

>>81769411
>unlike in india where i wouldn't step outside out of fear
good thing porn is illegal in india? thank god those aggressive, horny men are encouraged to pursue real women instead of jerking off

>>81767325 (OP)
Go all the way, pussy, fuckin safe bigot cupcake.

>>81768698
The prostitution suggestion was for you foids, imagine if there were state subsidized chadly male prostitutes that you could order on door dash for five bucks.

>>81769401
yes and thats wrong and should be changed, no question, but are we approaching the solution the right way?
>>81769403
well what do you suggest? should i just hate 50 percent of the population because some of them are super neurotic and direct their hate on the other 50 percent of the population?

>>81769428
India is evidence of what happens when you let men lead the country and take 99% of control.

>>81769337
Marx was a jew and any communist countries either end up communist only in name or they become a kike scam.
>>81769457
India is evidence of what happens when you let subhumans bred to be slaves have a country.

>>81769457
ok then what's your actual solution
>inb4 ban porn
india already did that
so did most of the muslim countries

>>81769480
>Marx was a jew and any communist countries either end up communist only in name or they become a kike scam.
The PRC is neither of these things and you have no idea what you're talking about. Stop spending so much time on /pol/.

>>81769428
women might have more to fear from some men but we gain protection too. and not just from other men.
>>81769428
I'm pro porn and pro prostitution. I didn't know it was illegal but that certainly doesn't help
>>81769451
i agree. lack of sex no matter the gender makes people bitter

>>81769337
>modern china
>marxist
just say you like authoritarian regimes and be done with it

>>81769455
>well what do you suggest?
I don't suggest anything. You'll do what you feel and I don't offer solutions, no one can offer actual solutions because there are none.
All I know is this:

If you're a woman and you were approached by a silver tongued woman and a normal man, you would automatically prefer the opinion of the female orator no matter what destructive insanity she's preaching and you would completely ignore the male pleading you to be reasonable because his words are just male gibberish, words without meaning(not reinforced by actual feelings on your end) but the female serpent's opinions WILL resonate with your feelings because she is one of "your people" and she knows your instincts too.

That's all. There's nothing to be done. This small exchange extended to a larger scale will define male-female relations forever.

>>81769218
>creating value for her employer
Women don't do that though.

>>81769489
>censored meme
Teens were right 4chan is a corpse

>>81769489
China is an ethnostate with controlled capitalism but capitalism nonetheless and all that it entails, luxury, decadence, classes.
How did the Soviet union end? Gobbled by kike oligarchs and failed.
How did North Korea end? An ethnocentric necro-feudal theo-monarchy and still succeeding.

Marxism is complete retardation, a bastardized version on Socialism, and it's only popular because of the same old kikes that astroturfed it.
An ethnostate with the same "protectionistic" measures and nationalized bare necessities and central bank like any normal country used to work until 25 years ago is the best way.

>>81769626
I still find it funny how even though it's censored, we know what it is. Kek.
Not really a point in having the censor then, aye?
>I hate n******
>N******
>You have no idea what this word is n******
Lol, retards are le funnies.

>>81769401
>it's a pure fact that women get abused more than men.
Men are more likely to be victimized by criminals and face violence. Most forms of domestic violence (physical/psychological) inflicted upon men is scoffed at by society. Men are more likely to be addicted to drugs, be homeless and end up in crime. Many of them are raised by single mothers who scream and shout and act abusive towards them while "raising" them. You have a very biased view of how the world works.

>>81769374
It can be. If they choose to. In a free country they have that choice. See how that works?

>>81769480
Every single country in this world would threat women just like India if feminism wasn't there.
>>81769486
Change the system. Remove patriarchy.

>>81770165
>Change the system. Remove patriarchy.
these aren't policies. this is reactionary

>>81769337
>try reading from actual Marxists instead of believing the Jews
theres no escaping the jews

>>81768149
>Thinking because males can get to higher extremes means they are all guilty for said extremes
>not understanding that women, while not as depraved, perform vile acts with more frequency - including destroying nations

Having said that, he should have gotten killed with the exact same torture methods. As should all people that do these acts.

>>81768405
>sex is basic need that people need to fill but sometimes can't
Yes.
Sex work still isn't work.

>>81767325 (OP)
yah, i dont support 3dpd really and find it pretty gross but i jerk off to 2d and erp as women
what does that make me

>>81768599
btfo. But you lost her at "thought experiment", women quite literally lack the capability of abstraction. And many other things but whatever.

This thread perfectly describes why I hate the gender war, I've found myself caught up in it and started acting like an asshole and hating women...but it's time to get out

'Abolishing pornography' is dishonestly "based" in a sense that it would do NOTHING to decrease the following:

>hypergamy and promiscuity
>sex outside of marriage
>serial monogamy
>female idolization
>gynocentric simp culture
>men having to initiate everything
>sexual narcissism
>nihilism

In fact, it would only INFLATE these elements as men would feel compelled to settle for low-vibe over 15 bmi whores out of "desperation".

True change lies in collective disuse of the internet in general or the willful removal of gynocentrism from the soul. Discontinuing the social coddling of women is the only answer. Also advancing android companionship.

It's not enough to "hate women" but to ascend to the higher goal which is to eliminate gynocentrism from the collective soul. That's what "incel" memetics are all about actually. Consiously shelled betaprovidors desperately trying to virtue signal will not save the precious "chivalry" for "womanhood".

There will be no more illusions of "inherent value" of women either instinctually or socially.

"Females" who have felt worshiped will be catapulted into the void.

"Females" who have received nothing from gynocentric society will continue to receive nothing but will suffer the least.

There is no "womanhood" there is only void and the refusal to evolve.

You are not obligated to provide, care or protect "women".

You are not obligated to put in more effort than a "woman".

You are not obligated to fulfill an archetype and or gender role.

You are not obligated to follow your """instincts""" when you hear a "woman" in distress

They LITERALLY live in 'word reality' and that's the only sign you need to realize their nothingness. To rebuke their illusory 'feelings'.

>>81771847
>muh gynocentrism
stop trying to force your retarded meme, it doesn't land.