Any other older volcels around? Ever thought of just losing your virginity to an escort?

In my area all escorts seem to be 35+, tanned, wide-backed, painted eyebrow aunts. If I had access to something a bit higher quality I'd consider it

>>81781042
>In my area all escorts seem to be 35+, tanned, wide-backed, painted eyebrow aunts.
What country is that? I thought my city was grim but at least the escorts still looked nice. Otherwise, most women are at least chubby if not obese, with tons of tattoos, piercings, and dyed hair colours.

>>81780952 (OP)
checking in
the thought has come to mind not as an idea but as a "what if" scenario. wouldn't be happy with myself at all if i did that. i might just try to make it to death as a virgin. maybe ill unlock some secret afterlife.

>>81780952 (OP)
yes, 28yo volcel here.
prostitution is legal where I live (germany), and it would be pretty easy, safe, affordable etc.
I'm pretty sure I could probably arrange having sex TODAY with a good looking early 20's ukrainean bitch.
I just dont think I could look in the mirror after that, it sounds degenerate and disgusting.
I think I'd rather be single and die alone than NOT have at least the chane of a virgin-virgin first time, ideally with my wife on our wedding night after years of being together.
DESU I don't think its gonna happen, because I'm a 28yo khhv, but hope dies last.

>>81781063
>maybe ill unlock some secret afterlife.
that sounds reasonable, I hope I get at least some sort of achievement or something.

>>81781063
>wouldn't be happy with myself at all if i did that
Same, I feel I wouldn't be happy, but at the same time I'm losing hope of finding someone compatible.
>i might just try to make it to death as a virgin.
Are you seriously going to try?

>>81781119
i mean i'd might as well try. im volcel as op stated, i choose to be single already. i havent tried to be in any sort of relationship since like high school a decade ago.

I have no interest in escorts, but honestly I'm so bored I've had this desire to grope some woman spontaneously. Not even for sexual satisfaction or to feel comfort and affection, just this mysterious existential boredom that makes you want to do random things even if it's stupid.

>>81781232
>i choose to be single already
What's your origin story? How did you end up with this goal in mind?
>>81781280
Kind of similar in that I want to try touching the skin of a ftm and mtf just to see what they feel like. Life needs something different from the usual stuff.

>>81780952 (OP)
No. Weird question considering you're supposedly volcel. I have no illusions I will ever find a virgin at this point (who isn't obese), I'm still not going to have sex unless it's with a virgin in a committed relationship, my entire stance at this point isn't fuelled by any sort of hope, it's just idealism, spite and pride.
If I die a virgin it is what it is, the universe is telling me the only thing I can get is used goods, I'm telling the universe to fuck off.

>>81780952 (OP)
What actually is a vocel? From I understand It's something like a dude that could get a gf but doesn't try or is it more specific than that? I just don't try and am not really bothered by it I am fucked beyong just tfw no gf so I can't really relate to this specific type of loneliness. I'm just NEETing my life away and trying to enjoy what I can.

>>81780952 (OP)
I never thought about it myself but normals I interact with always tell me that I should "just do it" and hire a prostie or hook up on tinder (kek)
Also family is very concerned with me still being a khhv
I kind of want to remain a virgin forever purely out of spite and contrarianism, I know I know I'm "only hurting myself" whatever that means but that's just how my brain works

>>81781119
>Are you seriously going to try?
NTA but why not?
It's a pretty easy choice to make, imagine the paths before you.
a) You fuck a hoooker and your life goes on from there.
b) You get into a relationship with a girl who fucked other men before you, and this is your life.
c) You reject the other paths and never have sex or relationships.

Now for me, it's an easy choice. I pick C because in both other scenarios I give up on my dreams. If I fuck hookers I can never do the virgin-virgin marriage, I can't even say sex is special because it's paid for and I'm not going to feel any less lonely, only now I lost my self respet. If I get with a girl who fucked other men it WILL bother me, and I will resent her and myself. Not only can I not fix it, I don't see it as a personal failing but a societal one that this is the only option I had. I will also, still be lonely. Option C is lonely, but I can say I didn't compromise, I can delude myself there was a girl out there for me even if we never met. I'm still lonely, but it's not as emasculating as saying "ok world, the best I can do is be the cleanup guy, please give me pussy".

I doubt many incels or volcels would be hapy with a hooker since it doesn't help mentally/emotionally that you had to pay for that interaction others are given freely. Lifelong virginity is a melancholy life, but it's less likely to drive me to suicide than other paths.

>>81780952 (OP)
>Any other older volcels around? Ever thought of just losing your virginity to an escort?
No.

>>81781396
>Weird question considering you're supposedly volcel
I can hold out for a relationship for whatever reason as long as it is voluntary.
>unless it's with a virgin in a committed relationship
What I'm also holding out for but seems increasingly unlikely, hence the beginning of thinking about whether holding out longer is worth it or not.
>>81781404
>a dude that could get a gf but doesn't try
Pretty much, just someone who could have sex or get a gf but doesn't for whatever reason.
>>81781406
>that's just how my brain works
Less distractions for you. I don't like that I still want a gf to be honest.
>>81781487
a) and b) are pretty much the same to me. I'm where I am right now because of c), but we live in a very imperfect world.

>>81781652
Why do you want a gf? You should ask yourself this.
Back when I was 17 I asked myself if I really wanted a gf, I weighed the pros and cons and having a gf would be a net negative for me. Ever since I never gave this much thought, only when others would inquire about it.

>>81781652
>hence the beginning of thinking about whether holding out longer is worth it or not.
All you have to do is imagine how you would be if you you didn't hold out. For me it's easy, it wouldn't fix my problems and I couldn't even use my ideals to try and protect myself from the world at that point. Like if you won't give a shit about not holding out and it won't effect you negatively then sure why not. But if you think it would fuck you up then don't go down that road. I know there's an element of sunk cost falicy at work, but the only way you're going to figure out what path works it to be honest with yourself about what you want and how you would feel about all the options you have. Would you be ok with losing your virginity to a non-virgin, or paying for sex? How would you feel if that was the only option vs dying a virgin. How would your life be after making those choices. Only you know, but don't lie to yourself e.g. if you can't handle the prospect of dying without sex/relationships, then maybe consider giving in. If you can't handle the idea of a where you ener got your virgin-virgin relationship then don't give up on that. Like I said, it depends on you, there are risks on both sides.

>>81781361
well, even though i was relatively fat and ugly i did somehow have dates with girls as a teenager. but i realised every time i wished i was just back home watching anime or playing doom or something. all 3 times i felt like spending time with other people was a waste when i could be quelling my hyperfixations. the final straw was that the third girl actually cheated on me with some black dude from another state. so i was just like yeah, i dont care anymore. lost weight and grew my hair out then years later when i was like 23 a coworker wound up liking me and wanting to spend time together and i honestly did want to give it a shot but within literally minutes the feeling was back, so i said i had to leave (i forget the excuse) then took a bunch of weed from her house and left. thats when i knew for sure that the path forward for me was lonesome by choice, albeit a hard choice because the economy hates single people in america. i still goon to hentai sometimes though, but i probably wont ever lose my virginity since the thought of actually being that close to a 3DPD makes me uncomfortable and bored. love my waifus to death though, theyre real to me and if they were physically real i would actually try to date them even though i know i would just end up lamenting the wasted time

>>81782241
oh, and i later found out my parents hid a childhood autism diagnosis from me, which adds up.

The thought of fucking a girl who sleeps with countless men for a living grosses me out.

>>81780952 (OP)
I ain't been with a girl for a solid three or four years and haven't been looking, so I guess I count.

Prostitution never tickled my fancy because I only ever wanted a woman that cared about me. I can't really do anything "casual"

>>81781960
I imagine I can be very happy if I get a gf I'm compatible. It will a lot more fun than being alone. Plus, having someone that would watch your back is quite handy, even though I don't need it much. The thing is there's no guarantee if I will get such a wonderful gf. I haven't encountered a single person like that yet.
>>81782075
Yeah it really depends which path I want. If I give in, it's really just me settling for mediocrity, as in better than nothing at a cost.
>>81782241
That really sucks.
>>81782384
It comes to a point where I can potentially ignore it. Or just say fuck it, do it, then confront what I've done for the rest of my life.
>>81783001
>I ain't been with a girl for a solid three or four years and haven't been looking, so I guess I count.
Was talking more about people who haven't had a gf/had

>>81783235
>Was talking more about people who haven't had a gf
Fair enough

>>81783354
>Fair enough
Sorry, just don't think our experience would be similar enough

>>81780952 (OP)
>Ever thought of just losing your virginity to an escort?
never