The trans debate seems to be mainly people who refuse to concede anything to the other side
I hold the belief that a trans can be classified as a woman if she passes well, and engages in heterosexual(Trans woman + cis male) relationships. Thoughts?

>>81806988 (OP)
We need a ladyboy category and trans retards need to accept living in that category. I can accept that they are entirely men but they will never be women.

>>81806988 (OP)
ya pronouns are earned not presumed if you want people to use she her dont give them any damn reason to use he him

>>81807017
Aren't entirely men is what I meant to say but had a freudian slip.

>>81806988 (OP)
All in all its foids problem, only whiteknight cucks really care about it, they can do whatever they want to the foids that mostly support them

>>81806988 (OP)
I have a nonbinary supervisor.
They are obviously female.
Functionally, just a lesbian with extra steps.
But they have always been nice to me.
I therefore do not care what pronouns they want me to use.
It makes them happy to be called them.
That's all that matters.

>>81807089
Kek you miss the pronoun more than once your ass gets fired

>>81806988 (OP)
Trans women aren't women but I'd still have sex with them as a heterosexual male IF they pass. Ultimately that's all that matters though, whether you pass or not is the only measure of how seriously you're taken as a trans woman. People are shallow and your life would be infinitely easier as an ugly male than an ugly trans woman no matter how much you fantasize about being cute.

I wish they'd just accept being a 3rd gender instead of the man/woman thing it seems like such a simple solution to the problem. Well I don't wish it because it doesn't affect me but I think it would be helpful to their survival I suppose and I don't like seeing the abuse they go through for wanting to be cute.

>>81807017
>>81807195
Well said Anons. I would never marry a passing tranny but would have no issue plapping them, especially since suicide aside they're looks seem to expire quicker than women.

>>81807195
Why is it so important to maintain the boundaries of man and woman

>>81806988 (OP)
ContraPoints is a self-admitted masochistic autogynephile with a fetish for being abused who adopted "socialist" aesthetics because they were trendy but has since completely conceded to being a wilfully clueless liberal who doesn't want to hear about the world outside of his bubble.

I guess if you are gonna choose any tranny to represent women, he's a good option. I realised that as I wrote my post.

>>81806988 (OP)
This troon talked about the palestinians recently. Its main argument was that we should ignore what is happening there because it makes jews feel unsafe. Fuck this retarded tranny

>>81807874
Because Man and Woman have very specific biological and sociological definitions that aren't really flexible in some areas while being flexible in others. You can call yourself a "woman" all you want but if you didn't grow up as a woman and weren't socialized as a woman and don't pass as a woman, will you ever actually be treated like a woman? Instead of assigning an identity to yourself like that, you have to build your identity the same way you build trust with people, and that requires give/take. You can't just claim to be a man or woman, you have to start with how other people perceive you and then work your way into their good graces through that.
It's important to be honest though, and I think calling yourself a Woman when you aren't is just gonna get you in more trouble than it's worth. If you just were to call yourself a Ladyboy or some other random word for a 3rd gender people would at least be more willing to hear you out from the position of "oh, this person isn't a man or a woman, they must be something else" rather than "oh, this person claimed to be a man/woman but they obviously aren't?" which just makes people distrust you.