Why don't incels just hire a hooker? Genuine question

>>81807719 (OP)
Because it's fucking illegal god damn it.

>>81807727
Rape is also illegal, that didn't stop Martin Luther King

>>81807719 (OP)
Hook her? I barely fucked her! Or something to that effect.

>>81807727
illegal, expensive, and shallow. Incels mislabelled themselves when they chose that name. it's not they cant get sex, it's they cant find love. and you definitely wont with a hooker

>>81807719 (OP)
Validation, love, sense of shame, want sex to be special and intimate, blah blah blah

>>81807739
My brother, I don't spiritually have it in me to do that to someone. I just could not do it and live with myself. It's disgusting.
>>81807743
I think even empty, casual sex could probably unlock more confidence for me. When I talk to pretty girls my heart rate rises until I can feel pounding my head. I lose the ability to form complete sentences.

>>81807743
Inlove's didn't have the same ring to it.

>>81807719 (OP)
hired a hooker to move my piano down the stairs
am I chad

>>81807719 (OP)
ITS ILLEGAL, AND AIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought about it but I felt pathetic and what if I ever find a gf and then I would need to explain to her that not only did I hire a hooker but also I hired her specifically to lose my virginity

>>81807759
So why don't you specifically hire a hooker

>>81807719 (OP)
Too scared, same reason I haven't talked to a girl

>>81807784
Because it's illegal. I'm not willing to risk ruining my life for it.
But it shouldn't be illegal.

>>81807719 (OP)
i want love. not just sex anon

>>81807719 (OP)
it is not sex I desire the most, but a gf.

I want love not diseases.

Not willing to risk the legal consequences like the rest of the anons here. The state requires you be beholden to women if you want pussy.

>>81807795
Love isn't real, grow up

>>81807719 (OP)
not going to get genuine intimacy from a sex worker, would just be using a body to masturbate with, no thanks

>>81807719 (OP)
Because it's not about losing your virginity to me.
It's more about being completely undesired.
Paying a woman to have sex with yiu us not the same as one being actually into you and wanting it because she's horny.

>>81807719 (OP)
sticking penis in vagoo doesn't sound like that big of a deal and i don't really care, especially if i paid for it

it's narcissistic but if a woman wanted to be my gf and found me sexually attractive the self-esteem boost would be better than an orgasm

i feel worthless because women find me repulsive and women find me repulsive because they can tell i feel worthless, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy

>>81807819
Do you get genuine intimacy from porn and your right hand?

>>81807774
This really isn't a problem unless you're a third worlder. No high quality escort would let you have raw sex unless you gave test results, and she would provide as well

>>81807844
no and I wouldn't get intimacy from a sex worker so what's your point? a sex worker is also expensive, would rather do it with someone who actually likes me

There's guys who have done it with a sex worker and end up regretting it

The hot ones don't accept blacks

>>81807904
There are guys who do it with their crush and regret it. What's your point? Define intimacy

>>81807719 (OP)
I just saw one on Thursday. She was the 7th person I've had sex with (all prostitutes)

I learned that I don't really enjoy sex with really skinny and really short women. Not enough meat for the plap sound to be made and her vagina kept making fart sounds lol

Anyway, I recommend you find one lady you like and just keep seeing her. I always feel gross when I see different ladies but if I go back to my "main" lady I feel really refreshed and good about myself. I had reasons for not seeing my main lady this time but still it wasn't very satisfying. Downside is you get kinda attached. My first main lady quit and I'm still upset about it because I really liked her and the sex was pure ecstasy. She would giggle quietly during penetration and it was so fucking hot man. I miss her a lot.

Of course I would trade all of this degeneracy in a heartbeat for a girlfriend/wife but I really doubt I'll ever find one.

>>81807719 (OP)
I don't really want to have sex. I don't really want a girlfriend either. I'm just trapped on this website forever despite not caring about any board anymore, and I am currently on here.

>>81807911
being vulnerable and open with someone who excepts you as a person, can't really do that as a sex worker is just doing her job, she just see's you as a customer.

also std's

>>81807719 (OP)
there's nothing more cringe than prostitution. Imagine giving women money bro ffs rethink your life

>>81807719 (OP)
My bf slept with a hooker before he met me and I resent him for it.

>>81807719 (OP)
Because I'm a man who carries himself to a higher degree of standard I don't deserve a used up whore I deserve a mutually virgin gf who is caring and compassionate.

>>81807965
Had you slept with anybody before you met him?

>>81807719 (OP)
I would be too anxious and embarrassed, and in general I hate doing things I'm not sure I can do. It's too late to learn this shit in your late 20's.

>>81807962
>rethink your life
I'm not an incel. Don't have this problem

>>81807719 (OP)
>Why don't incels just hire a hooker? Genuine question
Maybe check the etymology of celibacy, it might allow you some understanding.
Yes, people aren't bound to old meaning of words, but it usually paints how they think.
I want more than a biological dick sleeve. You can't convince me that my money made you consent.
>But it's always transactional
Yes..because only the upper 0.5% of men recieve legitimate consent, this is why 100% of women say they've been raped someway or another.

>>81807719 (OP)
>Why don't people lacking X just do Y

>>81808080
I need to know who the fuck took the digits I wanted

>>81807783
Why would it even come up?

>>81807904
>no and I wouldn't get intimacy from a sex worker so what's your point?
That a woman is better than your hand. If you can't afford it, are scared about the law, or even scared to be with a strange woman, etc. that's fine, but "It's not real love!" is a dumb argument

>>81807949
>being vulnerable and open with someone
Real advice, don't ever be vulnerable with a woman you love. She will learn your weakness and kill you with it when she's done with you

>>81807719 (OP)
It's illegal. Even if it wasn't, it still wouldn't be the same as having a gf.

>>81807850
fucking a bag isn't sex and ur still an incel if u don't hit it raw

>>81807719 (OP)
The hooker here are very ugly and I don't want to get disease from them

>>81808116
Can't afford it atm but I just feel that it's a waste of money, cops really don't care about johns here. What's wrong with wanting to do it with a woman who I have genuine feelings for?

>Real advice, don't ever be vulnerable with a woman you love. She will learn your weakness and kill you with it when she's done with you

Alright thanks, will try to remember if it ever happens.

>>81807719 (OP)
It's not about no sex
It's about no love and the trauma of never having been deemed good enough

>>81807934
Really sad post, man
Hoping you can recover and find something real

>>81808259
Nothing wrong with wanting a woman whom you have feelings for, but if that's realistically not going to happen for whatever reasons there is consolation

>>81807719 (OP)
Temporary happiness, makes you feel even worse to be honest.

>>81807719 (OP)
I'm a broke wagie

>>81808283
Why do you think so? What judgement are you making about me exactly?

I know my post was crass and gross with how explicit it was. But that's just my true experience. Would you look on me more favorably if I didn't see prostitutes at all? I get lonely and really frustrated if I don't because I have nobody to make close contact with. I go many months without even hugging someone. I've tried a few times to find something real e.g. I was on dating apps for many months but still received literally 0 feedback of any kind despite sending a bunch of people likes and messages and putting a lot of effort into my profile.

I hope I find something real too and I'm not happy at all about my situation. When I was a kid I detested the idea of prostitution and I looked down on stories of people who entertained it. But it's either that or I totally forego a basic human experience of closeness/touch/intimacy with another person, along with the extra experience of sexual relief. I'm totally isolated most days of the year. What would make my situation less sad besides finding a girlfriend/wife?

>>81807719 (OP)
I have 8 dollars to my name. You tell me where I can find a hooker for that price.

>>81809566
Get a job then?

>>81807719 (OP)
Because I don't want STDs or some nigger faggot cop arresting me just because I want pussy

>>81807719 (OP)
I've had legal escorts and have had a sex doll/onahole and unironically the latter is better, one way or another the woman will show signs of this is simply a service and is not so secretly disgusted by you. We want love OP or in other words not perceived as undesirable yet still feel pleasure as if we are desired.

>>81807719 (OP)
>Why don't incels just hire a hooker? Genuine question
I have, and I cannot perform well, or cum, with them. I need to be desired and I know that will never happen.
The few women who have claimed to be DTF all ghosted me, or had red flags of their own.
It's also too expensive for a NEET to do regularly enough.

>>81807719 (OP)
I did it long ago. Hookers are creepy and they usually treat you either like shit or they go balls deep for you to take responsability and care of her. I guess thats the female nature. Not worth the money, just hop on a dating app and fuck a random femcel or tranny

>>81809619
Not that anon, but I feel like the ones you won't catch anything from probably go for 200/hr. That's half a pay check for some people. And the ones that go for fifty go for fifty for a reason.

>>81809678
I literally can't even do that hahaha no matches after three weeks, fuck, you have it better than you will ever know bro

>>81807759
anon you just have a confidence problem. i bet if you really put your mind to it, you could rape as many women as you pleased

>>81807719 (OP)
some men have dignity. some men have self respect. it's not something an ape like you could understand.

>>81809773
Curious, and yet you watch transporn

>>81807719 (OP)
Paying for sex is the most cucked thing you can do.

>>81809877
Yeah but beggars can't be choosers, and I've been on this board long enough to see you guys beg (and cry, and then beg more)

>>81809903
I would rather die a virgin than pay for what every other guy gets for free.

>>81809907
True Scotscel
kinda based

>>81807910
One day we will end racism, Nigganon

>>81808010
Yes, but that's different. It was a normal person, not some cheap whore.

>>81809694
No matches at all? Take better pictures

>>81807719 (OP)
because it wouldnt make them feel any better
incels crave love not sex
males are the tender gender

I have seen two escorts in my life, here they are:
https://www.daisydelaneyx.com/
https://scarletblue.com.au/escort/aqua-marine

Feel free to tell me I have shit taste in hoes I guess.

I refuse to pay for sex.

>>81811321
Hot but I would never drop 1000s on whores

it's about wanting to be loved, not getting attractionless sex out of the way
i've thought about it but ultimately i don't want that experience, i do have some kinks i might want to play around with with a whore though, maybe one day

>>81807719 (OP)
Not even incel because sometimes I'm lucky and get to have sex with swingers and other degens like me, and I do see hookers every now and then. Sadly lot of them are shit or scammers so I keep going back to my favorite one.
>tfw no femanon hooker friend who you could bust a nut with and who would resonate with you in imageboard culture in chats between rounds instead of normie talk

Because they're afraid of women

>>81807719 (OP)
they dont let you kiss them and they leave before you even cum

>>81807719 (OP)
first of all
>doesnt mean shit
>no love at all
that means im still an incel freak manlet
i would like to add that incels dont have the balls to hire a hooker
otherwise they would hav already approached a girl and they have to approach a prostitute (if only with phonecall).
if they are not cowardly like abovementioned they are fakecels

>>81807719 (OP)
sex is illegal in europe. i tried to hire pic related for 200 euros. i said, "i'll pay in person", she said, "no, transfer money to this banking startup in europe, i don't want feds to track me down", i said, "ok, but i'll want to take photos", she said, "that'll be an extra 50", i said, "i can send 200 to you and pay 50 in person", she said, "no, send everything". that's when i realized it was a scam. now here i am a 30 year old incel. before you ask, yes, i used dating apps, approaching girls at the bus stops and going to dating events. it's all hopeless.

>>81811628
where in europe? nordic part?
because her in austria and germany its legal and i could just visit a brothel

>>81811660
lithuania. the prices here are cheap as fuck but prostitution is illegal.

>>81807719 (OP)
>Paying hundreds of bucks to have sex with an STD infested whore who thinks you're pathetic and never wants to see you again after
You need to explain why I would want to hire a hooker first.

>>81811679
uuuuh oooh how can it be cheap if its illegal?
women can offer but men cant buy cant be a good business
also just come to austria/germany/amsterdam and fuck here
im to much of a truecel to do that see
>>81811613

>>81811572
Women are weak, I am not afraid of them.

>>81811713
>uuuuh oooh how can it be cheap if its illegal?
that's why it was probably a scam: affordable price means more gullible buyers, or that my money is inflated because i earn a western eu salary in an eastern-ish eu country.

>>81807719 (OP)
Because afterwards you are back to being the same non sex haver you were. And most likely you have jerked it too much, like me, and you cant even cum after an hour of fucking one.

>>81807719 (OP)
Crippling social anxiety

>>81807719 (OP)
They're actually the best memories I have of women.

You fags would take hrt and lock yourselves in a chastity cage with a butt plug if it was the law. And you'd enjoy it.

>>81807719 (OP)
If it wasn't illegal I'd probably do it. Although I'm not sure if I'd actually enjoy it. I was feeling really touched starved so I went a got a massage awhile back but I just felt really disgusting and ugly. I have a female therapist so I can talk to a girl and that's been nice but paying for sex seems gross.

>>81813232
It's like a 2 year prison sentence here. Not worth the risk.

>>81813232
Hot af brotherheinous anus

ah yes
let us make the same retarded thread again
for the millionth fucking time
no

>>81813282
Yu know what, yeah don't see a prostitute. 2 years in prison isn't worth it. Is what I'd tell you if you weren't a rotting incel who is going to waste more than 2 years doing nothing anyways..

>>81813313
>doing nothing anyways.
I'd say doing nothing for 2 years is better than getting beaten and possibly raped for two years. But hey, that's just me.

>>81813332
You're a day dreamer and you love fantasizing, you should get TOPPED on grindr

>>81813232
>>81813282
>>81813332
I think prison could do some good for a self-isolated incel
Think about it: no 'pooters and no phones to waste your day on, socialising with other societal rejects, books, gym, 3 meals a day, workshops and all that shit
Prison's like exposure therapy

>>81813366
Nah, it'd just end up being like school. I wouldn't fit in and people would fuck with me. But it'd be worse than school because I couldn't leave.

>>81813380
Everywhere is like school to a greater or lesser degree
Most people really don't develop much past high school and it actually scares me when I see grown ass men with families act like schoolkids

>>81807719 (OP)
Imagine if everyone else had friends. But then you needed to pay people to be your friend.
Same shit. Ironically, incels view sex as a more intimate and loving thing, than the normies who view it as somethign between a recrational activity and a handshake.

>>81813432
>But then you needed to pay people to be your friend.
I have a dreaded feeling this will become a reality. I'm glad that at least I'm not a sub-5 zoomer or gen alpha. It's like jumping from a broken bridge at the last second.

>>81808093
You know, in a healthy relationship there should be no secrets. Unless you committed murder or sth

>>81811679
https://www.skelbiu.lt/skelbimai/pramogos/pazintys/mergina-iesko-vaikino/

I have fucked dozens of hookers. no clue how you found the only fake option in this shithole.

>>81807761
I'm inlon, involuntarily lonely

why not get a sex doll? a good one cost up to $2k but you it's worth the investment. they feel like the real thing and you don't need to do the whole song and dance just to get into her pants

>>81813432
>incels view sex as a more intimate and loving thing, than the normies
Cute, but very naive and autistic view

>>81814414
No, there are definitely things you should never tell your lover which you can tell your friends and vice versa. There are some things you should only tell your priest and some things you shouldn't tell anyone. It's actually quite inconsiderate to expose the darkest and most immature parts of your soul to someone and expect them to hold you in the same esteem

It's degrading to your soul.

>>81814444
okay, turns out 99% of the girls are from ukraine. i don't speak russian and i don't know if they know a single word of english, but the advertising was viewed 54k times, and it reads
>"My photos and videos are waiting for you. Write to me"
so, most of them are camwhores with phone numbers originating from ukraine? they don't even live in my city despite listing it.

>>81814444
lmao, is this a fucking joke? look at the 5th photo in this advertisement: https://skelbiu.lt/skelbimai/lelytes-3-78279923.html, then at my screenshot. i'm lucky i managed to find this, now imagine an average computer illiterate coomer. your website is a fed honeypot. i think i can make a living scamming coomers with ai slop images.

>>81813282
>That's right, you filthy, unlovable chud. That's what you get for having consensual sex.

Kek, it's gross, but I'll never understand why it's illegal. Most women are prostitutes that do it for the love of the game.

>>81815195
NTA, but fake pictures by themselves are not indicative either way whether the listing is legit ime. It's a common practice

>>81815440
>yeah bro, even though the listing and photos are fake, it's still worth shooting your shot because you never know, it could be a beautiful lady on the other end of the screen! definitely not feds trying to bust incels for trying to have consensual sex for the first time in their lives! :)

>>81807719 (OP)
I already do, I still lurk the forums though
One good thing about the Russo-Ukranian war is that a lot of Slavic bitches came to my country, so the prices for Slavic whores went down significantly.

>>81814841
What is the point of having a soulmate it you dont share everything?
>your priest
I dont visit any priest or rabbi or muslim mosque man

>>81813232
>You don't break the law? You must be a sissy little homo!
Drown in smegma.

>>81815519
Usually it's just some hag not the cops.

>>81815015
Look for listing with mid looking chicks most are fake listing and you don't know whats waiting behind the door, since you don't know any russian it will be hard expressing yourself how you want things to be done since you are also inexperienced, so I would recommend https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escorts/lithuania/#
from time to time some good girls come over so just pay the premium price for gfe experience, they will also know a bit of English most of the times, I lost my virginity to a high end escort and then moved on to cheaper Ukrainian chicks since I understand a bit of russian.

>>81815811
>What is the point of having a soulmate it you dont share everything?
Companionship, childrearing, much else

A durable relationship isn't built on sharing every moral weakness, sexual perversion and all shameful conduct. Openness is good of course, but there should be necessity and discretion. When you reveal unimportant and irrelevant information about yourself which diminishes you in your lover's eyes, you've only made the world worse. There is less love in the world because of your needless disclosure. That's a bad thing to me

>>81807719 (OP)
I did, it sucked. 1st time was horrible because I couldn't feel SHIT from my deathgrip. Second time I went in after months of not jacking off to eliminate death grip, it was only marginally better. It felt mechanical. Yes, she acted, but I found out I need emotions. At least hookups have more emotions than one sided attraction. Maybe anons will feel different.

>>81807719 (OP)
Shalom, Rabbi Anon

>>81816436
Not everything you don't like is Jewish

>>81816382
I really don't understand this. How hard are you gripping? I was dry jerking everyday and came in like 10 seconds or entering a pussy when I lost my virginity. You must have been wearing a condom

>>81817359
Dry jerker here too...Stopped trying after 45 min of piv, can't cum without my hands.

I've been a virgin long enough that I might as well wait until marriage if that is what God has planned for me. But I am not a virgin in my heart.

>>81817359
>How hard are you gripping?
I guess reasonably hard since both pussies felt loose compared to my hand. I'm also circumcised btw, so I have reduced sensations I'm guessing.
>You must have been wearing a condom
Yeah, I did use a condom both times. I noticed the difference in the blowjob sensations (no condom) after giving up masturbating for a while.

>>81807719 (OP)
I thought about it but I don't really cared about sex, I realize it probably feels good but I can't long what I never had
what I want is a friend, someone to love, someone to talk to, not a hooker to fuck

>>81807719 (OP)
I would probably fall in love with her

it's illegal here and hiring an escort sounds like huge pain in the ass from what I've heard from anons who are into that. Dudes literally go through a whole vetting process like they're applying for top security clearance just to get their dicks wet for an hour

also the crux of the problem is that all of the women I've ever known have been repulsed by me and paying one to pretend to want to be around me isn't going to change that

It's illegal and I'm terrified of talking to women. I've never even had a real conversation with one and I'm 31

gayest thread ever award

>>81820056
They don't even get their dicks wet most of the time since most prostitutes won't fuck without a condom, lmao

>>81807719 (OP)
Prostitution is for normies.

>>81807719 (OP)
Incels dont want just sex.
They want a loving girlfriend.
Or at least frequent, affordable casual sex.

>>81820094
Same boat here, anon. SAME, petting a male lion is safer than being within 50 meters from a woman.

>>81807719 (OP)
it's no better than jacking off to pornography
there's no emotional connection at all

They think they're too good for hookers. Ironic, given how they claim this is women's attitude toward men.

>>81807719 (OP)
My body is so deformed I would feel ridiculous asking a hooker to fuck me.

i mean... yeah. you tell me that's what you are so why would i doubt you?

>>81807719 (OP)
would you have sex with a hooker?

>>81820552
Oof. probably sounded better in your head, huh

>>81820526
stupid. that's literally their job. half their clients are going to be "you"s. followed by the guy who likes shitting in women's mouths. you think they care about your boring malformed body?

>>81807719 (OP)
because at that point I might as well taken all the opportunities I had with some slut(free).
Also
>paying for sex
you think having sex will actually fix it? lmfao

>>81807719 (OP)
Because paying for sex isn't like buying candy out of a vending machine.
No vending machine can discriminate against a customer for their appearance, their politics, etc.
Nor can it overcharge or short sell you for any of those reasons.
Live prostitutes can and will do exactly those things.
The only advantages to prostitution is that (factored over ALL costs and time with a girlfriend) it's much cheaper and faster.

>>81820291
>DIE WOMEN DIE
>Uh incels are actually just lovesick romantics
No one is this stupid

>>81807719 (OP)
You say incels only care about sex and then say this, pathetic hypocrites, fucking a hooker will do nothing about getting accepted by a foid into having a relationship, only good looks do.

>>81820707
No, I'm content with my sex life.

>>81822068
Woah, chill lil bro. I was just asking because I see that lots of people here seem super upset about being virgins.

>>81807719 (OP)
I really don't like the idea of giving women my money in any forms.

>>81822049
trvthnuke
incels bounce between "kill all foids" and "I just want to be loved" whenever it suits them

One time I did hire a hooker but my dick wouldn't work when she got there so I'm still a virgin and now I'm -$800

>>81822429
Grim. Will this happen to me

>>81822507
My problem was I had recently started antipsychotics and also she came in the morning and I had jerked off the night before. So don't do those two things

>>81814957
If you pay extra, she will degrade more than just your soul

In the US not only is it illegal, but the last time I looked ugly ass whores and fat women wanted to charge 300 usd or something like that per hour. If you wanted to do it you might as well save up, fly to thailands/philippines, and have actually attractive women in a good location for less than 30 bucks a pop

>>81807727
It's not illegal unless you live in some third world theocratic hellhole.