Honestly I miss this old nigga

>>81809302 (OP)
you think obama ever accessed the NSA's nudie database?

As a white guy I have to admit: things were better with a nigga behind the wheel

>>81809302 (OP)
>>81809588
Neither one of you was of age when he was president. We had the slowest economic recovery in history under him and he also kicked off all the identity politics shit that has completely ruined people's brain.

>>81809302 (OP)
I feel the same way, although I was 13 when he left office. The modern political climate in the US is polarized to the point of being noxious, yet both parties ultimately boil down to the same things. It's weird. I voted for Trump last year on a whim and because of family pressure.

>>81809602
I'll have you know my third grade class did a mock vote in 2008. So yeah you're right. But the housing crash wasn't his fault, and at least he didn't go throwing tariffs around like a monkey throwing shit and fucking over all my leveraged positioned with his chickening out

>>81809302 (OP)
First term Obama was the last time things were normal desu

>>81809602
>slowest economic recovery in history
objectively false
>kicked off identity politics
not his fault that people seethed because a Black was in the White House

>>81809626
He was a shit president and you only suck him off BECAUSE he is black.

Furthermore, Biden was just Obama 2.0. That was shit as well. You are all about 20 years old.

>>81809659
Bidens market was fucking amazing and now we have poopy ass trump market so idk wtf you're talking about

>>81809602
slow economic recovery > import 6 trillion Indians and economic recession. Nigga mogs orange retard and dementia retard any day.

>>81809626
Obama stoked racial tension with saying if he had a son he would look like Trayvon
Also the gap between productivity and wages grew at an even faster rate compared to under Bush

>>81809748
Lmao, he stoked racial tension by simply being black you idiot. Obama being black is the whole reason we even have trump today, it has nothing to do with his policy

>>81809765
sucks that the inbred retards that make up the southern white population keep breeding. They're unironically just as bad as city niggers and should be excluded when discussing the white race.

>>81809748
Obama was perfect for taking eyes off the capitalists and placing eyes anywhere but. Democrats haven't been able to shut up about their gayness, their race, what's between their legs, etc, since. They completely destroyed themselves in some sad attempt at getting ahead of others using their immutable characteristics.. Legit, he might be the best president ever for the capitalist class.

>>81809770
Yeah most magatards are literally just white niggers

Same. It wasn't perfect but things were just normal compared to all the bullshit today

>>81809602
>We had the slowest economic recovery in history under him
remind us which party caused the collapse in the first place?
Obama was a shit president but it was mostly for doing nothing not making America actively worse, unlike the other 3 presidents of the 21st century.

Still a war criminal tho.

>creates a bigger police state than Bush did with the Patriot Act by applying it to its max
>endorsed the scam known as Cash for Clunkers program which has been done hundreds of times since then just under different names
>created literally the biggest health insurance scam called "Affordable Care Act" that cost people more in insurance with worse healthcare coverage, allowed insurance to screw over their customers by making coverage more restrict--all while not making it more affordable.
>ACA also cost the insurance companies more money to cover all those who are making it their MCOs when they were on Medicaid, which gets passed along to actual customers who pay into the insurance
>made the race war worse and made it sliding down hill since instead of making it progressive while also saying his contributions are "progressive"
>messed up the image of Democrats to the point that they lost a lot of chairs in various states including legislative bodies in those states and in congress
>extremely strict environmental regulations that caused hundreds of thousands jobs, while only creating temporary jobs like creating the solar and wind farms, which were later laid off since their job was done and they only needed a few to maintain the farms

But I will give him credit on one very major thing:
>helped us get out of the recession caused by Bush's policy mistakes
Trump and Biden just kept making things worse afterward. The economy was shit and gas prices were terrible, but it took Bush to undo all of Clinton's policies which made the US budget in the surplus instead of the current debt that it's been in since Bush and his "war on terror."

>>81810320
Every president since Vietnam is a war criminal

>>81810373
>>created literally the biggest health insurance scam called "Affordable Care Act" that cost people more in insurance with worse healthcare coverage, allowed insurance to screw over their customers by making coverage more restrict--all while not making it more affordable.
you are fucking insane. the affordable care act gave millions of americans(mostly rural white people mind you) healthcare for the first time in their lives.
it's neoliberal garbage but it objectively made healthcare cheaper for patients.

>>81809765
This

I remember all those rednecks holding up obongo signs as early as spring 2009 lol. People were MAD that a HALF BLACK man became the face of the us depsite the fact he was clearly a superior president to both Bush and Trump

>>81810452
>>81810452
>HE IS BLACK AND SUPERIOR THAN THOSE CRACKERS
This is the shit Obama unironically spawned. He was a shit president just like every other president. Only difference being that he is black.

>>81810394
>the affordable care act gave millions of americans(mostly rural white people mind you) healthcare for the first time in their lives.
They already had the chance to: all they had to do is apply. How do I know? I worked in healthcare and helped hundreds apply for Medicaid. I was a Case Manager who helped get that coverage. Getting people covered for services was a lot easier then, it's just that people were morons.

The guidelines and critieria for coverage of services was so easy that you didn't have to bullshit like you do now just for the minimal services like oh: PAYING FOR MEDICATIONS YOU WERE ALREADY ON BUT ARE BEING DENIED AFTER THE AFA AND BEING ON LESS EFFECTIVE MEDICATIONS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN ON JUST BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER.

All it did was pretend that it helped a lot of people when it didn't. The guidelines were there back then, just like they were after the ACA. All it did was make things more restrictive and expensive.

I had to get out after 2018 because of how so restrictive it was and how many times I had to BS for even the most basic services. Even then, the restrictions kept getting harder because ACA is still not fully implemented. Though most of it was in effect by 2014, it still isn't 100% yet.

>>81810373
Yeah I can tell this is a shill post.

Cash 4 clunkers was great. It got people money and it also helped clear out all the junk cars that rednecks keep on their front lawns for some fucking reason.

Obama was unironically the last good president we had.

>>81810464
>Race obsessed

Thats exactly what we're talking about. Nothing to do with his ethnicity. It's just a pattern with republicans, everytime they get in office they fuck everything up, get kicked out, democrats try to fix it, get blamed and then republicans get back in.

Reagan did it with crack, meth, aids and basically planting the seeds for republican fuckery.

Bush did it with 9/11, war on terrorism and the 2008 crash and

Trump has a list too long to even post

>>81809302 (OP)
I miss his era, back when halo was still at it's peak and he promised us change, even though it was far fetched it felt nice. We don't have that feeling anymore. It's all doom and gloom now until the end comes from shit we can't control.

>>81810490
>>81810490
You have no idea how the economy works. The fact that you think a president can control the beast that is the US economy shows how fucking retarded you are.

>>81810486
>junk cars that rednecks keep on their front lawns for some fucking reason.
And they still do. One of the major problems is people traded in perfectly good vehicles that needed a little bit of work but still had very good mileage. Part of the incentive of C4C was to get people more gas efficient vehicles. Many did trade in their "clunker" that got 18 miles to the gallon for a 10 mile SUV. Also, this left the cheap, used cars inventory lower. Used cars are more affordable and many just need a bit of repairs. It's all a psychological game, just like almost all of policy scams. You are just dumb and don't feel the effects of it.

>>81810500
>The fact that you think a president can control the beast that is the US econom
I don't think that, i do think you are just a retarded republican baby who doesn't want to admit obama was better than bush and trump though

>>81810500
>The fact that you think a president can control the beast that is the US economy shows how fucking retarded you are.
The US president absolutely can manipulate the economy. Executive authority allows him to literally nationalize corporations with the stroke of a pen. It's just this is only ever used for evil like threatening political enemies and not good things like nationalizing healthcare.

>>81810524
Obama was a shit president just like Bush and Trump. You only want him to be different because he was black. You are a fucking spineless shit.

>>81810500
You're saying this while we have a president moving the s&p up and down like it's his onahole just by tweeting

>>81810538
The US stock market IS NOT the US economy, you dipshit.

>>81810524
Oh and I LOVE how you keep leaving Biden out of your lineup of recent shitty presidents. You are TOTALLY not some Democrat boot licking faggot.

>>81810537
Not really, Clinton was also better than those republicunts

>>81810547
Republicans are so many infinite contradictions
>The US economy is NOT just the stock market, but
>Unrestricted Capitalism good because uh...line goes up!

>>81810547
Oh my bad, let's look at all the other, far more representative metrics we have:

Threads like these are why people don't like Democrats btw. Nothing has gotten better for anyone younger than Gen-X over their entire lifetimes. Millennials especially. Your guy is not great because he was the first black president. Stop trying to gaslight everyone to believe otherwise. Fix your shit so people actually have someone worth a damn to vote for.

>IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF

>>81810566
Yeah, let's use a highly speculative casino to judge real economic output. Brilliant. Dems literally are fucking brain dead.

>>81810569
Presidents don't make things better they're just supposed to not make things worse. I'm a straight white man, and Trump is the only president in my lifetime to directly and actively fuck me over with his retardation

>>81810594
I'm still waiting for your alternative. You must have some metric to go by when you say trump is great for the economy if not the stock market.

>>81810555
Clinton was the last good president we had. His economy was the last best economy. All the republicans were literally trying to impeach him just for a blowjob from an intern. Meanwhile, Democrats were attempting to impeach even Bush Jr. for national security issues and starting multiple unjustified wars (including lying about WMD's in Iraq), misuse of his own Patriot Act like warrantless wire tapping, etc. but was failed because he was out of office by the time the articles could lead to the impeachment.

>>81810569
Realistically it went off the rails in 1980s with Reagan. The Dems decided it was a losing bet to be a working class party. Having the same economics meant they fought over idpol wedge issues instead.

>>81810569
I feel like you have completely lost the plot if you don't realize it's Republicans that have guaranteed wealth only stays in the hands of boomers. They literally campaign on fucking over Millennials. Social Security is a fucking time bomb to keep the boomers financially solvent at the expense of Millennial taxpayers and when they finally die they'll take it with them.

>>81810619
>They campaigned on fucking over millenials
it cant be that bad

>>81809302 (OP)
I miss when his B B C was breeding this country into proper shape!

>>81810628
Where were you yesterday when that guy trolled with the ugly wife thread? Could've used you then.

>>81810627
unironically every single American generation has gotten poorer in the last 20 years except Boomers and gen X. They completely fucked us to give themselves more free shit, and then when 35 year olds campaigned on making college cheaper for their 20 year old siblings, the boomers overwhelmingly voted for a party that blocked the Biden admin's every attempt to forgive student loan debt, just out of spite.

>>81810638
I respect other cvcks' posts

>>81810658
You two are probably the same troll ess emmm aech

>>81810569
That's not really true tho. The first black president made sure young whites are even further ahead than ever before by saddling young black Americans up with college debt for useless degrees that have no place in this rapidly evolving high tech market. Putting whites even further ahead than white boomers were to black boomers. This is why his predecessor tried to forgive student debt, to fix that fuck up. His racialized presidency also put affirmative action into the spotlight. I suspect that a lot of the civil rights era shit is going to torn down by the supreme over the coming decade. That is just me speculating tho. None of this would had been possible without Obama's extremely inflammatory presidency that spawned left wing identity politics.

>>81810655
That's because Biden's loan forgiveness plan was a shitty bill that would have caused more issues than solved. The bill was so porked due to everyone wanting to add irrelevant shit into it like millions to gender studies in foreign countries, which would mysteriously go missing just like every other thing did even with beneficial programs like road repair. It should have been student loan forgiveness only. Nothing else in it. Then, it should be more specific with things instead of being vague that would have given the rich even more money. It would have passed with flying colors.

In other words: our government is ran by a bunch of rich, corrupt retards only out for themselves instead of their constituents.

>>81810683
if you care about white supremacy, Obama was truly your guy.

>>81810702
So instead the Republican solution was to just give us nothing instead of giving us a "shitty" bill with pork but also student loan forgiveness. Oh but they did give tax cuts for the rich, and killed healthcare for the poor. Very cool.
Yes the Democrats are corrupt and add pork to every bill they can, but Republicans are playing the same game, they know what they're doing. Republicans haven't improved living conditions for anyone a single time in my entire 35 years of life on this earth EXCEPT those who are already rich. It's fucking insane that any American would vote for a party that very obviously only represents the people that want you dead.

>>81810705
There will be no bail out either. Dream on.

>>81810773
>it is better to make things worse than to do nothing
That is a moronic take. It is that which has always made our country terrible, and it's the stance our government takes.

The rest I agree with you.

Another great irony with Obama, the explosion in prices for higher education, housing, and other big ticket items can be solely placed on his shoulders with his ridiculous quantitative easing schemes. Literally all making the poorest even poorer and the wealthy even wealthier.

>>81809302 (OP)

I miss Obama. Seemed like someone who *wanted* to do the right thing but didn't all the time. idk, how would anyone else have acted in a crucial situation.

ACA was such a good move.

>>81810813
>That is a moronic take. It is that which has always made our country terrible, and it's the stance our government takes.
It wouldn't have made things worse though. It would have made millions of Americans closer to being able to afford a home, or start a family, or even just buy a car. Instead because "you didn't do it the right way!" the Republicans were allowed to tank student debt forgiveness and screw over multiple generations of Americans at no benefit to anyone except predatory student loan companies. Infuriating when Americans miss the forest for the trees and act like endless legislative gridlock and obstruction is better than baby steps towards a positive solution. Since I was fucking born in 1990 not ONCE have Republicans helped my generation. They didn't even help when I was a child and they were defunding school lunch programs to push more tax cuts for the rich. It's fucking infuriating how cucked Americans are.

>>81809302 (OP)
He didn't do much because Republicans with Obama derangement syndrome controlled congress most of the time and blocked anything he tried to do. At least he didn't try and do retarded tariffs though.

>>81809302 (OP)

He's be better than dumptrumppp

every president since FDR has been awful except maybe Nixon