Thread 81812069

Hopefully this will be an interesting thread. I want to know where you align. Liberal? Convervative? NATIONAL SOCIALIST? or maybe COMMIE? What makes YOUR IDEOLOGY correct, young man?

Thanks basedjack guy for being the hero we needed

>>81812069 (OP)
egoist

>>81812069 (OP)
I don't subscribe to an ideology, that's for the people in the suits. I just want to survive. Politics are not something I need to think about. I can't change anything.

>>81812069 (OP)
I'm anti-political. Not apolitical, I just understand that the discussion of ideology is worthless. All that matters is that someone will have more power or force than someone else and use that force to enforce their will. I have no control over this, at all. All I can hope is that whoever is in control gives me things and hurts people who would take things from me.

Anything else is window dressing or intentional delusion.

my ideology changes depending on the weather
i was anprim yesterday

>>81812088
based

>>81812096
>>81812103
>>81812106
naive liberal

>>81812069 (OP)
im not too fond of labels but if i had to pick one then i would say im most closely aligned with francoism

>>81812069 (OP)
Right leaning classical liberal

drug using shaman jester

I'm a communist.

>>81812110
Stirner was, ironically, idealistic with an idealistic view of the individual and the complexity of the individual. Nobody can actually change anything or exist in any way without a greater force randomly fucking them over without any form of recourse. All that exists is random chance that no human can ever fully comprehend. We are completely adrift in a universe of chaotic elements.

As per usual, someone responding to Stirner writes 100x what he wrote.

>>81812196
I haven't read Stirnet yet. Should I give it a go? He seems to be of a forgotten philosopher outside of niche internet circles.

>>81812244
Stirner's writings are responses to responses. Reading and understanding Stirner "properly" requires reading up on Engels and basically all socialist and liberal and nationalistic thought going back to the early 1700s. Philosophy is extremely masturbatory and time consuming.

>>81812259
Well. I have read Engels, Marx, Lenin, Mao, Proudhon. I think I should be able to jump into his writings.

>>81812269
Yeah, you probably could.

Stirner was a retard and so are all egoists and anarchists of any kind

>>81812451
Elaborate, please. Why do you think this?

>>81812512
Not him but Stirner's positations are borderline incomprehensible and unrealistic nonsense. Try reading anything by him.

>>81812096
>"I don't subscribe to an ideology"
>Immediately describes their ideology

>>81812531
Sounds like you simply got pleb filtered.

>>81812544
You're probably correct, that's not my problem. I'd be an anarchist if everybody else could be slaves. Not even my slaves, just slaves to somebody so they stay out of my way.

>>81812069 (OP)
I believe that I deserve a government mandated wife, that's my only ideology.

>>81812069 (OP)
If you ever were in actual politics and you are not 1) braindead 2) psychopathic retard, you will ultimately come to the conclusion that all politics is for stupid retards.
It's one of the worst ways to waste your time ever devised.

>>81812559
What bleak view of the world, anon
>>81812563
Another naive liberal

>>81812577
>Another naive liberal
I literally spent ten years of my life being an elected official in my country's government. And I was nowhere near liberal, either.

>>81812592
>I literally spent ten years of my life being an elected official in my country's government
>I was nowhere near liberal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA libs are so delusional

>>81812607
A stupid retard it is. Case in point.

>>81812615
Which country are you from? at least drop your name and enlight us on your policies

>>81812069 (OP)
Being anything other than a national socialist is accepting the slow decline and death of your civilization.

>>81812577
The world is a bleak place. Every moment of happiness you enjoy is predicated on the incredible suffering of countless organisms. Schopenhauer was right, it's that simple. Being alive is willful evil. Any other method of thought is just rationalising the evil we do. Even minimising your impact on other organisms doesn't undo the suffering your mere birth required and created.

>>81812641
>Schopenhauer was right
He was.

>>81812631
Absolute retard. Yes, you are a liberal knee deep in identity politics, congratulations.

>>81812641
Seems like you just tried to rationalize your depressive outlook on life. It's a coping strategy, I guess. Do as you want anon, but it does keep oyu in that cycle.

>>81812653
>everything I don't like is liberal
Idiot faggot.

>>81812653
>teehee it's just depressive outlook!
Why are brainlets like this?

I'm smart enough to know that I'm too dumb for politics
I look down on every average person who is politically active and gets into political debates

>>81812678
Anarchocapitalist*

>>81812653
Right now, there's an Indian baby being born in a slide of shit on the side of the road. He is being born with horrible deformities that will make every second of his life more agonising than you or I can comprehend. What's horrifying is even this archbeing of human suffering will induce suffering by being alive, more suffering than he himself will ever feel. This same event is occurring a million times per second in nature. This suffering greatly outweighs all the combined joy felt in the world, because all joy inherently requires suffering to be forced upon others (you simply cannot deny this, your very being alive requires other living things to suffer and die).

People criticise this perspective because acknowledging it is invalidating your own existence and admitting that life is morally evil.

>>81812653
Prove me wrong as a national socialist. I want us to be the biggest brute in a brutish world.

>>81812701
I don't turn my fetishes into my political ideology, faggot. Sex pests like you should be euthanized

>>81812069 (OP)
economically im socialist (not to be confused with type 2 communism) but socially im a bit conservative. this leads to me not aligning with any sort of american "leftists".

>what happens behind closed doors is ancaps are targets of the government. I have been forced under a rock by america's gov't forced on witness protection. They also tried to buy my intellectual property
>I'm also the target of criminals & weak people who want intellectual property that is mine
>Thus i'm always in conflict with just about everyone

>>81812719
All political ideology is actually based on sex and access to orgasms. That's all anybody cares about, truly: their access to orgasms.

>>81812721
Incoherent ideology.

>>81812729
Hi Freud!

>>81812722
You're missing the point that government just breeds government. There is no different between the far right & far left-they're just more quickly building compulsion

>>81812732
Everything is reduced to orgasm seeking and denying others orgasms. Orgasms are inherently immoral since they are a form of pleasure and all pleasure requires someone else to suffer, and the agony of the devoured is greater than the pleasure of the devourer.

>>81812745
>Does drinking a sprite require suffering?
>No so shut up faggot
>U ruined ur brain.

>>81812738
Horseshoe theorists are actually the most retarted when it comes to political discussion. Get out of this thread brainlet

>>81812760
Horseshoe theorist? Ur so tied & backwards rationalizing u cant even admit to urself u COULDN'T leave the group. Have u read the wall st journal lately? The government has destroyed the economy & done so purposely
>& No this is not right/left/socialists/humanists, it's ppl playing roles

>>81812758
How do you think the Sprite is made, genius? People suffer to make it, they suffer endless boredom. Water and resources must be extracted from nature, destroying the lives of other creatures. It has to be transported in trucks that pump pollution into the air by drivers who have to take meth and eat meat and cause suffering to exist.

I am tired of these lazy, repetitive "refutations" from the myopic and simple.

>>81812783
Shut ur mouth about
>"Funds"
>I am a neurosurgeon, vet, every type of engineer & have a phd in physics from caltech

>>81812719
Don't misunderstand, some of the brutes are nationals of my nation. They got too uppity and deserve to get the boot.

>>81812795
You're exhaustingly myopic and any response I would make to you would be ignored because you were obviously off your medication.

>>81812795
>I'm ancap, also, with these credentials what does gov't give ME?
>Nothing. In fact the government knows me on a personal basis & is always trying to despoil me

>>81812801
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO you dont get it it's not sexual at all okay NOO national socialism has nothing to do with genetic anxiety

>>81812806
>Ur just playing a role
>Faggot
>Govt is how U get fed
>Fuck off and dont eat the stock seed again, animal

>>81812795
retard ape

>>81812824
>Governments are also inherently corrupt. So criminals target people who have value, the government will victimize them & there's no where to grow because of
>Laws

Only legitimate ideology is Marxist-Leninist. Everyone else in this thread is just retarted. Pick up a book, faggots.

>>81812836
>Ur apostasy

>>81812836
>U committed gay (butthol) apostasy faggot

when i was a kid i was an apolitical liberal, but then liberals went bat shit insane around obamas second term and turned into what would be called social justice warriors, or "woke", they decided they were the new moral police that could control what you did, how you acted and what you could say.
Needless to say i found liberals very obnoxious, at the time i had graduated school in 2009 and became a neet but the rise of trump in 2016 made me think twice about everything. the stench of liberalism ran foul in the air and we needed trump in 2016, i still believe that. the libs needed to be punched in the nose to come back to reality.

Eventually trump turned out to be a dud who accomplished nothing beyond culture war victory of the right so around 2020 i realized im a neet and i need me some neet bucks, therefore i could not be a fascist as i would be sent to ze camps for being a neet. and i couldnt be a liberal, or conservative, im not of the bourgeoise class, but im not a prole. im a neet hikki schizo, or what marx would call a lumpenprole, so i couldnt be a communist either. so for a while i played around with the idea of anarchism, especially the type of max stirner.

So i would say im an anarchist, but i also have interests in philosophical pessimism of Schopenhauer. at the same time im severely anti social and despice mainstream anarchists of the reddit type who are obsessed with idpol and intersectional liberalism.

>>81812849
>>81812873
take your meds, retard ape.

>>81812069 (OP)
Communist
capitalism left me a NEET, it abandoned us, banks recklessly speculate and millions of people lose jobs but the bankers never get punished, etc.

>>81812738
The far-right wants to abolish minorities and foreigners. The far-left wants to abolish capitalists and landlords.
We are not the same.

>>81812879
>Put up fund motherfucker i'll put inside ur tongue
>Six foot -84 inches and a dream of hedge fund gods

>>81812879
>"im not a prole!!"
>is neet that needs governement buxx
retarded faggot doesnt know the meaning of words, lumpenprole is a type of prole retard. also marx is a theorist among many others, his opinion on lumpen isn't absolute

>>81812885
>Copy of a copy

>>81812817
So, are you for eugenics then? Bad commie, bad.

>>81812697
That's why you should be Gnostic, and tell g*od to fuck off when it offers you to rei*ncarnate

>>81812914
proles are workers, i have no job, in a communist society i would be sent to the gulag

thats why im an anarchist

>u caved in $ of omega
>Ur apostasy

>>81812931
>Y u no speckled eboneez're bonaroo tugboat sam faggot?

>>81812939
Proles are not necesarilly workers. They can also be unemployed. Your position as a prole is defined by your relation towards the capitalist mode of production.

>>81812923
I'm for sending you to camps for sure.

>>81812069 (OP)
You are not even trying anymore

>splooge grin wan wide world
>What it purposely shall in the times of the songs of neon's blaster fife shelf life halfing smokin' on a pipe (game raiden
>Bogy

>>81812997
>What it is to be
>Happy
>/Polapes r fucking maggots

>>81813006
>A prolapse gape
>Stems from a rape
>Lie again
>A saphire catcheci
>Brain damage

>& jissery
>Shim Citty on a rope with a blazing dragon (of emeralds, of pearls of gold)
>Fat faggot is a fatalist

>& go with a grapevine fish
>U wont get ur wish
>I'm the one who made it.

closest label i think is libertarian, just let me do what i want as long as im not hurting anybody; with that in mind, there is a space for the state to exist and operate to keep it's citizenry safe and satisfied beyond what the individual can provide for itself, such as infrastructure, military sovereignty, and basic law enforcement for when there are issues individuals cannot resolve on their own.

>u peed ur pants @ the grocery
>Ur baby doesnt want to be leik yiew

>>81813072
>Study philosophy & u'll understand why that is contextually right. John Locke
>As an ancap i cant tell u ur wrong because i am a tragic hero

>>81813072
sounds like you're a minarchist

>>81813151
you're so neurotic

>>81812069 (OP)
Raping women, being a bandit and doing drugs

Batailleistic Solipsistic Accelerationist Ego-Nihilism

>>81813097
pretty much, however i do believe that there should be some form of system in place to care for those no longer able to care for themselves, like social security to a limited extent. that falls under what's "beyond what the individual can provide for themselves" BUT i don't believe this should inherently apply to retards / the mentally defunct. if the people around them want to care for them and shore up their deficiencies, they're welcome to do that, but the state shouldn't inherently be on the hook to care for someone that is never capable of defending or caring for their being, incapable of filling a functional role in their society, and essentially is never capable of "paying in to" the production and progression of the world that surrounds them if that makes sense. if they're so fucked that they are completely exiled and unable to maintain critical functions, that's the social darwinism we have lost in modern society.

>politics
theres just the various teams the elites set up for to cheer for and keep you distracted from what they are doing. Keep slapfighting

>>81812069 (OP)
I'm a neocon. Shit was actually so cash back in the 2000s.

>>81812069 (OP)
Not sure what kind of ideology this would be but
>strict immigration laws
>greater punishments on the top down for corporate bullshit, including seizing assets
>much greater restrictions for foreign nationals and businesses to purchase homes, increasing tax rates for regular buyers after 2 purchases
>age limits for all elected officials, no reason on gods green earth there should be mummies wheeled around in congress
>greater push for nuclear energy including investments into R&D
>shallnotbeinfringed.jpg
>greater outreach and benefits to get people in needed industries instead of just putting a flyer up somewhere and expecting people to come
>greater expansion into cleaning up and refining public transport as well as investing in passenger rail for less needed reliance on cars, great as they are
>encouraging public service outreach starting from an early school age to bring a greater sense of social cohesion, even if its something like planting trees or whatever
>getting rid of the beyond retarded no child left behind bullshit and pushing low performing students into apprentice positions after a certain time (similar to what germany has IIRC)
>government should be strictly agnostic, islam in particular should have no political power
>tax breaks or other similar benefits for those who live provable healthy lifestyles
I can go on but thats the kind of direction more or less.

>>81812069 (OP)
you lost zoomshit, go back

i don't have any ideologies i wake up jerk off, call people the n word online and consume japanese media

>>81812069 (OP)
I pretend to be a christian theocrat online for attention but dont actually hold any strong beliefs.

I'm a rapist.

Socially conservative
libertarian monetary
isolationist foreign policy

>>81812069 (OP)
Radical Fox-ism

>>81814096
That's mostly fascism and it's based as long as the state actually has a good ruling class. You just can't ever trust the ruling class to actually care about the people. In monarchy you would occasionally have a good king and that was the best form of government but then his kid or his grandkid would fuck everything up.

>>81813614
Yeah you want evolutionary humanism and some eugenics not pure social humanism where we have useless members of society. You can keep your defectives but only under personal sponsorship not state sponsorship

>>81812088
that's not a political ideology, or at least shouldn't be
>>81812103
>I just understand that the discussion of ideology is worthless
it's actually harmful

>flags: lgbt
:|
>flags: politics
:O

My political ideology is anime girls eating hampborgar

my political ideology is whichever the hot girl im flirting with has

It feels like a lot of masks went off during covid
The people who complain Trump is a fascist wanted to control every aspect of your life

representative republic where the representatives are afraid of pissing people off too much.