Thread 81820950

What's so wrong with antinatalism?
Yeah I get it antinatalist redditors are annoying, but logically speaking, does the world really NEED more low IQ ugly subhuman manlets like me?
How is practically guaranteeing a child's life will be total dogshit not evil? I mean I understand the pro-life argument, those fetuses are future humans, so killing them is bad. But not breeding is entirely different, you are not killing anything, no evil act took place.

I just think of how shit my life is and how bad my stats are and I think to myself "should I multiply that?" and the answer is fuck no.

It's a dead-end suicide pact. It's fine if you want to crawl into some hole and die, but there's no reason for society to waste resources on somebody that is actively trying to destroy it.

>>81820950 (OP)
They should just release a sterilization virus and make the cure cost $1,000,000 and then all the stupid people would be gone.

>>81820950 (OP)
even high iq attractive normies will struggle. the world is going to shit. future generations will be sicker, dumber, uglier, and have less stuff to make up for it while being worked to the bone

>>81820950 (OP)
there is nothing wrong with being childfree as a personal choice
but making being anti-child your philosophy is weird, if youre trying to reduce suffering why desire to cause suffering to little kids (as these antinatalists ive seen do, talking about how they want to punch kids and feel disgust at seeing kids)

work all life to save up for the cure get to 999.999$. some bitch in a porche hits you resulting in you perishing.

Your bones are scraped clean by the desolate wind. Your Vault will now surely die, as you have.

It's only pushed on white people. Therefore, it's Jewish.
Have you ever met a non-white anti natalist? Didn't think so.

>>81820950 (OP)
>antinatalism means eugenics
that's not what its origins are.

antinatalism comes from a feminist who believed in malthusianism. she combined the "muh suffering" meme with "muh patriarchy" and came up with this framework that the world is not worth bringing children into. its a passive protest similar to veganism, where the core idea is supposed to be an appeal to morality but is motivated by a vendetta against the people in power.

>>81821257
>Have you ever met a non-white anti natalist? Didn't think so.
Because they have religions that tell them all life is worth it and that they are special and that Allah/YHWH/Jesus/Krishna loves them or whatever.

White people arent religious anymore, so most of them automatically think life is pointless, so they all kill themselves. This is why Russia has such an extremely high suicide rate, because they are more atheist than even most Western countries are because of communism.

>>81820950 (OP)
I'm not anti-natalist or pro-natalist.
People can have babies if they want, I don't see all existence as a curse. But there's already 8 billion people, we don't NEED more, and if the population levels off that's fine. Any society that requires infinite growth is doomed to fail.

>>81821411
LMAO anon that last sentence is so fucking stupid, did you even look up Russia's demographics? The majority of Russians are religious. Atheists are 13% of the population. The reason people kill themselves in Russia is because it's a fucking shithole that got destroyed by internal saboteurs that sold out the country to western investors.
It's also funny to blame communism when they haven't been communist in 34 years and the post-USSR period saw a MASSIVE drop in Russian living standards and life expectancy because of neoliberal capitalist shock doctrine economics.

>>81820950 (OP)
antinatalism sounds logical when you hyperfixate on suffering and ignore literally every other dimension of human existence
and no, having a kid isnt evil. but saying that having a kid is inherently immoral because "life might suck" is weak. life will suck sometimes. it also wont. welcome to the entire point of being alive

>>81821470
it's not society. it's a bunch of old boomers who complain about the idea of not having enough medical or elder care when they retire. we already went through the phase of overpopulation and muh global warming XD so now most people under the age of 65 already don't care about falling birthrates. the only exception is that some nationalists and racists believe there is a competition between ethnic groups for different birth rates, but that's not about population overall.

>>81821411
Isreal doesn't believe in God. The majority of people are secular. Try again.

Male natalists are actual evil. They are spiritually alien parasites trying to destroy everything on their path on their claim to replication and resources. I am undecided on female natalists, because at least they have somewhat humanistic reasons to want kids, such as "their cute", "I want someone to love" or even to just have someone depending on them for self esteem - all of this is stupid but I can understand the sentiment. But male breeders always cite cite absolutely psychotic reasons that don't anyhow relate to actual human experience such as "I just wanna spread DNA", "legacy", "it's just my right to do". This is a thought process of a parasite worm, not human.