Reminder that if you care about the Epstein files you were never real MAGA

>>81829010 (OP)
I never actually cared about the Epstein files because they were always a red herring. The simple fact is that everyone politically relevant is likely connected to Epstein in some way. Dumb fucks who thought "THEIR GUY" wouldn't be on the list are just brainless retards. It doesn't matter who is on the list (orange man definitely is), what matters is that the list exists at all and is being kept such a closely guarded secret.

The mere existence and secrecy of the Epstein files implies a government/state that is rotten to its absolute core, which we should have already been aware of since... what, the... fuck, fifties? Late forties? EARLY forties?

Honestly at this point if it turns out the elites are all perverts I don't care. I just think the public is well and truly insulted by the gaslighting at this rate

Good, I wasn't fake MAGA in the first place

>>81829010 (OP)
>above the President's pay grade

Who is he referring to that would be above the POTUS? The deep state? The globalists? Who? So was Trump lying in service of the deep state/globalists/whoever when he said they were files created by Clinton and Obama and fake?

Is this an acknowledgement that Trump lies to MAGA? Is he saying that he trusts a person that lies to his face? Weren't they using the Epstein files to say that Dems lie and cover up abuse and therefore shouldn't be trusted?

I don't get why MAGA would trust Trump after that rambling post the other night.

>>81829181
but the elites are all perverts, at this point x celebrity or politician being a pedo is just standard at this stage

>>81829010 (OP)
>Weinstein
They make this shit too easy lol

>>81829010 (OP)
Was this guy always this retarded? I dont remember him always being that way.

>>81829500
The IDW was always a nu-neocon joke.

>>81829010 (OP)
i care about the epstein files but its obvious liberals are only talking about this now since they got their asses kicked
why couldnt it be possible that the fbi wants the epstien files to be classified since it would help them pursue more leads????? its not like none of the files were released they sent like half of them
either you trust the feds or you dont and if you dont then you have bigger issues than the president being a pedophile
so the ONLY reason you are using the rhetoric is you DONT GIVE A FUCK about trafficked abused kids and you give a fuck about getting your way politically which i find deplorable
if you DO trust the fbi to kill pedophiles then you trust them to have classified documents which will help them kill pedophiles which if the president is a pedophile they would have killed him by now and since they havent i say SHUT THE HELL UP libshit faggot

>>81829010 (OP)
The only way to be involved in US politics is if you've fucked children. Shit's like a Masonic initiation and people forget or don't understand that.

>>81829601
>i care about the epstein files but its obvious liberals are only talking about this now since they got their asses kicked

liberals didn't make releasing the files part of their agenda. liberals think it's funny because it throws the fact that Trump lies to their faces right out in the open.

>why couldnt it be possible that the fbi wants the epstien files to be classified since it would help them pursue more leads?????

a valid reason to keep them classified. but then why did bondi say there was no incriminating client list? no evidence that epstein blackmailed anyone? why did Trump come out and say they were created by obama and clinton? why did he say they were fake?

> its not like none of the files were released they sent like half of them

recently read it was about 10%, 90% are unreleased

>either you trust the feds or you dont and if you dont then you have bigger issues than the president being a pedophile

thought Trumps whole thing was the feds are the deep state and untrustworthy? i thought Trump was still trying to root out all the deep state actors?

>so the ONLY reason you are using the rhetoric is you DONT GIVE A FUCK about trafficked abused kids and you give a fuck about getting your way politically which i find deplorable

i would very much like to see maxwell address congress at this point like she offered. republicans are blocking.

nice cope dumb bitch.

>>81829601
>muh libruls
Trump promised to release the files during his campaign. Pam Bondi claimed that the list was sitting on her desk. Now they do a 180 and claim it doesn't exist. Please point to where the liberals forced them to contradict themselves.

>>81829010 (OP)
i dont care about winning

i just want liberals to lose

>>81829010 (OP)
I don't care about these types of conspiracies because frankly, I can't do anything about it if it's true, and it's pointless despair if it's not true
ignorance is bliss, some may criticize me but I believe it's what I can do about it.

>>81829693
hurrr i trust le evil deep state to show me evidence which incriminates themselves cause i dont trust them okayy
what the fuck are you talking about dude if im coping you are DOUBLE coping
feds are obviously deep state they have classified shit to kill their own if they are pedos which epstien is obviously im not surprised there is contradicting points about classified things of this nature?????
i can be suspicious about certain aspects of the fbi while agreeing they are one way the country kills pedophiles?????
how about instead of protesting fighting pedophiles since you want the pedo fighters to call your least favorite person a pedo
you realize classified shit exists for a reason and if the WHOLE fbi are pedophiles so is the president and all politicians then what the fuck are you even protesting????? leave the fucking country dipshit
this is like saying i KNOW there could be a cure to cancer in area fifty one and MY GRANDMA IS DYING OF CANCER RIGHT NOW IF YOU DONT GIVE US ALL THE ALIEN CANCER CURING SHIT IN ALL OF AREA FIFTY ONE DECLASSIFIED MY GRANDMA DIED AND ITS YOUR FAULT
its your fault all those kids are dying of cancer since we didnt declassify all of area fifty one

>>81829866
>its your fault all those kids are dying of cancer since we didnt declassify all of area fifty one
This would be a perfectly valid complaint if you ran on declassifying Area 51 files, claimed they were sitting on your desk, then suddenly contradicted yourself and started pretending they don't exist.

>>81829866
you went from this:
>either you trust the feds or you dont and if you dont then you have bigger issues than the president being a pedophile

to this:
>feds are obviously deep state they have classified shit to kill their own

in two posts. i've never seen such a clear display of cognitive dissonance in my life. i can hardly follow your incoherent fucking rambling.

>i can be suspicious about certain aspects of the fbi while agreeing they are one way the country kills pedophiles?????

are you asking yourself that question?

>how about instead of protesting fighting pedophiles since you want the pedo fighters to call your least favorite person a pedo

who is protesting fighting pedos? i already said i would like to see maxwell address congress like she offered. put an end to this shit.

>you realize classified shit exists for a reason

also addressed that. i said that was a valid excuse for keeping them classified. it is pretty typical for federal investigators saying they will not comment on a case because investigations are ongoing. Bondi came out and said "case closed", Trump came out and said they're fake.

> and if the WHOLE fbi are pedophiles so is the president and all politicians then what the fuck are you even protesting?????

i can barely parse your meaning here, it's like you're close to a mental fucking breakdown. who was saying the fbi are pedophiles? i did not say that. are YOU projecting that onto me because now you don't know what to think about the epstein files?

last bit of your post is straight up nonsense, see a fucking therapist and get deprogrammed from your stupid cult.

i'm going to go eat dinner. i'll check back later if you still need help making sense of your contradictions

>>81829992
YOU are protesting what the fbi is classifying SPECIFICALLY what is the fbi have classified that you need to see because EVERYTHING the fbi classified is getting used to find more pedos
i have contradicted myself ZERO times

deep state means a organization which operates independently of politics which the fbi does in order to run investigations on their own people
one of which was epstien since he had a lot of political associations
im not projecting im giving examples to why your logic is flawed
it does not matter what trump was running on it does not matter what maxell says or >>81829747
pam bondi or anyone since these are classified and the fbi is going to lie to whoever it needs to about anything and all you can do is hope they are doing things which are trustworthy
since its fucking classified
the only reason you know which files are released and which arnt is because they DECIDED it wasnt classified
they will DECIDE if they want to contradict themselves and trump will DECIDE what he is going to say about epstein since he is the president and he KNOWS what files the fbi has
i have not said anything with cognitive dissonance in this thread since im not joking there is no point in declassifying the whole fbi since you wanna call trump a pedophile

>>81829010 (OP)
I was never MIGA, OP.

>>81830137
>deep state means a organization which operates independently of politics
Jesus fucking Christ it's literally like watching a Subsaharan nigger attempting to describe a wheel while being oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world already discovered it aeons ago. What you are referring to are "institutions", deep state is a low IQ contrivance invented to bitch about their existence.
>it does not matter what trump was running on
Some of us non-niggerbrained individuals actually care about basic things like "truth".
>pam bondi or anyone since these are classified and the fbi is going to lie to whoever it needs to
No, "the FBI" cannot legally "lie" to Pam Bondi because she is the attorney-general and therefore the boss of the FBI and the entire DOJ for that matter.
>they will DECIDE if they want to contradict themselves
Yes and non-nigger individuals will therefore DECIDE whether or not they are niggers because they say X and do not-X. Individuals who make promises to gain something out of you (your vote, in this case) and then walk back on such promises are what we call "niggerfaggots", who are intrinsically unworthy of being taken seriously.

>>81829601
Trump ran on releasing the Epstein files. He can't back out of saying that the thing he campaigned on is a hoax

>>81829010 (OP)
Correct, I'm a National Socialist.

I don't know a single MAGA who voted for Trump with the hope that he'd reveal the files. To be honest, I don't give a fuck if/when it gets released. It would be great to see the top politicans and celebs go down. But what would be even cooler is if the cost of goods and homes also went down, and more illegal brown people got deported

Reminder that if you are a mid moid, your opinion never mattered

>>81830244
you dont care about the truth you dont care about promises and you dont care about taking people seriously
i have made no contradictions in my logic and you have
pam bondi can contradict herself if she needs to classify information
trump can contradict himself if he needs to classify information
the fbi can contradict itself if it needs to classify information patel can contradict himself if he needs to classify information
i want the fbi to classify information since i want the government to kill pedophiles
you want the fbi to say the truth
you want the fbi to no legally lie
you want the fbi to promise and you want the fbi to be taken seriously
>>81830255
he can since its classified

does anyone in this entire world have logic or am i speaking to a wall

>>81829181
Elites are all satanist transhumanists and have been for millennia. Aliens/demons/whatever have been intimately involved in human affairs for just as long.

>>81830137
part 1
i have not said anything with cognitive dissonance in this thread since im not joking there is no point in declassifying the whole fbi since you wanna call trump a pedophile

>YOU are protesting what the fbi is classifying

I am not protesting anything YOU are simply tying your brain in knots trying to justify this clear betrayal by Trump to MAGA.

>what is the fbi have classified that you need to see because EVERYTHING the fbi classified is getting used to find more pedos

I love how mangled this sentence is. Were you trying to ask "what does the fbi have classified that I need to see?" Honestly I never asked. I am used to the status quo of them not releasing information while a case is currently under investigation. That is the typical line. However now that Bondi has closed the case and "[whatever] the fbi [has] classified is getting used to find more pedos" that means no it's not. THE CASE IS CLOSED. Actually now is the time they traditionally WOULD declassify that kind of info.

>i have contradicted myself ZERO times

Keep telling yourself that, the dissonance will just get louder and louder.

>deep state means a organization which operates independently of politics which the fbi does in order to run investigations on their own people
one of which was epstien since he had a lot of political associations
im not projecting im giving examples to why your logic is flawed

Are you reiterating that for your own benefit in order to quiet the feeling of betrayal? It sure seems like you are in order to reinforce your own crap logic.

>>81830137
part 2
>it does not matter what trump was running on it does not matter what maxell says or pam bondi or anyone since these are classified and the fbi is going to lie to whoever it needs to about anything and all you can do is hope they are doing things which are trustworthy

So now you're proposing blind faith in the government? After your side railed against the deep state for like 10 years now? You're ok with the lies now because they're coming from your guy? You're saying no one should be held accountable when Trumps whole thing was holding dems and the deep state accountable? The hyprocrisy of conservatives just never ends does it?

>the only reason you know which files are released and which arnt is because they DECIDED it wasnt classified

That's right, and may I remind you that Bondis release entitled "Phase 1" was mostly a rehash of what was released while biden was in charge?

>they will DECIDE if they want to contradict themselves and trump will DECIDE what he is going to say about epstein since he is the president and he KNOWS what files the fbi has

So he can tell the truth or lie at his own whims? There should be no accountability? Cult logic if I ever seen it.

>i have not said anything with cognitive dissonance in this thread since im not joking there is no point in declassifying the whole fbi since you wanna call trump a pedophile

Heh, I ctrl+f'ed this whole thread for "pedo" and with the exception of 1 guy any "pedo" language came from your own words, many times. And Again I find that telling. Also that is a retreat of your own sides narrative.

>>81830562
sorry formatting got a little messy on this one i had to copy paste from somewhere else. the unhinged shit is your words.

>>81830417
You've gone from:

>you dont care about the truth you dont care about promises and you dont care about taking people seriously

To:

>pam bondi can contradict herself if she needs to classify information
trump can contradict himself if he needs to classify information
the fbi can contradict itself if it needs to classify information patel can contradict himself if he needs to classify information

Again clear example of cognitive dissonance, accusing someone else of not caring about the truth and then saying it's ok that they cover up the truth. You have surrendered yourself completely to contradiction.

>i want the fbi to classify information since i want the government to kill pedophiles
>you want the fbi to say the truth
>you want the fbi to no legally lie
>you want the fbi to promise and you want the fbi to be taken seriously

That's a complete 180 of what has been going on up until now.


>he can since its classified

this administration can do anything they want and you will follow it like a little stooge.

you sound exactly like the libs you used to mock - worshipping institutions, justifying lies, begging to be protected by secrecy. congrats. YOU ARE THE DEEP STATE

>>81830670
again sorry for not fully greentexting your responses, the copy paste is not being kind to me tonight. but i think you'll be able to tell what's what.

nice /pol/ thread, why don't you go play in traffic?

Real MAGA patriots are done with this list talk. Trump's policy talks, bullshit walks.

>>81830670
the fbi is SUPPOSED TO BE deep state thats how the fbi works
the POLITICIANS are NOT supposed to be deep state in terms of taking money from outside actors which i agree is a problem with trump since i think there is too much money going to israel
especially in terms of using israel aid to blow up iranian aid when israel guns and weapons are blowing up prior defense deals we made in iraq either due to weapons going into the wrong hands or because we now percieve iraq differently due to regime changes and REAL WRONG deep state influences
the fbi can absolutely classify information and that doesnt make me a stooge that makes me realize what the fbi is supposed to do
there is no such thing as case closed when it is about child trafficking which is what i bet the remaining classified documents are about
you are lecturing me about blind faith in the government but calling all my considerations about this schizo
if the fbi is all pedophiles then whats the point of being in america since newsflash you have to blindly trust someone with classified information
you keep calling me cognitive dissonance and tying my brain in knots but if you are seriously able to continue to debate me how can you believe yourself since somehow you are still agitated about my arguments

my idea of the situation that i think gets a lot of people confused and worried (you included) is that you people dont understand what something is classified means
it means they CANNOT discuss it or they lose their job and go to JAIL
they can contradict themselves that is legal
they dont even WANT to discuss it since they KNOW how its being used and in order to do the job they are elected to do they are going to contradict themselves to do it
its the same situation happening in russia when putin gives trump complete assurance the war is over and truces and deals are made and then carpet bombs half ukraine the same night
it is their JOB to lie about what their government agencies are doing

>>81831000
part 1
Perhaps I have made some wrong assumptions about you anon, you started your rants by railing against libs and i assumed you were some sort of maga/conservative.

>the fbi is SUPPOSED TO BE deep state thats how the fbi works

That is a complete contradiction of what maga stands for. They rail against the deep state. Completely. No compromises. Perhaps you're not as brainwashed as I thought.

>the POLITICIANS are NOT supposed to be deep state in terms of taking money from outside actors which i agree is a problem with trump

I'm glad you recognize that Trump is taking money and part of an oligarchy. At least we can agree he is corrupt.

>the fbi can absolutely classify information and that doesnt make me a stooge that makes me realize what the fbi is supposed to do

Again I must have been mistaken. I thought you were MAGA.

>there is no such thing as case closed when it is about child trafficking which is what i bet the remaining classified documents are about

When Bondi says "case closed" that is literally what it means. There is no more valuable information they can get from it. This is typically the point in an investigation where they do consider releasing information to the public.

i still dont think there are any actual epstein files like people want there to be

>>81831000
part 2
>my idea of the situation that i think gets a lot of people confused and worried (you included) is that you people dont understand what something is classified means
>it means they CANNOT discuss it or they lose their job and go to JAIL

They have the power to declassify them. That is why this is such a scandal. Trump has even argued he can declassify something just by thinking it. So you're wrong about that.

>they can contradict themselves that is legal

It is dishonest. And that is where the controversy is.

>they dont even WANT to discuss it since they KNOW how its being used and in order to do the job they are elected to do they are going to contradict themselves to do it

He ran on declassifying them, he ran on discussing them. It is a betrayal to MAGA.

Anyways, I'll back off for now... but realize you've defended lies, contradictions, and betrayal. All to protect a man who promised transparancy and put out more conspiracy theories. That's not loyalty, that's submitting. So with that in mind I do think you should ask yourself: If Trump promised transparency and instead gave you more lies, whose interests are really being served now?

You can only deny betrayal for so long before it just becomes blind obedience.

>>81831632
i said on trip i voted for harris but i still support a lot of maga ideas
i mostly voted for harris since i thought she would have better foreign policy and i thought trump should take time off since he was almost assassinated
but honestly i dont have any serious complaints about what hes done in office so far except maybe being too critical of nvida and elon musk

>>81831783
If that's the case then I don't think you know what you believe or why you believe it honestly.

>>81831783
Yeah you know what? I had to come back to this. I think you voted for Harris because you like Harris and what she stands for. She was not known for having a strong foreign policy, it's just an excuse you're giving yourself. Thinking Trump "needed a break" is such a soft cop out. It almost sounds like empathy. MAGA is not known for empathy. MAGA was enraged. "He just won the election" was a common refrain after the attempt on his life.

Honestly you just sound weak. I think you railed against "the libs" and support Trump because on r9k, pol, discord, it helps you fit in. Earlier you said "does anyone in this entire world have logic or am i speaking to a wall". You were looking for help. You were looking for someone to back you up because you couldn't keep the conflicting ideologies straight in your head and you wanted someone to reassure you. I think you say all this shit because you think it's what you have to do to belong. Get off r9k. It's not good for you.

>>81832312
wooah acutally these are my political beliefs and im not gonna change them>>81832033

>>81832349
>does anyone in this entire world have logic or am i speaking to a wall
>wooah acutally these are my political beliefs and im not gonna change them

keep speaking to your wall anon

>>81832391
thats fine i thought a lot of people were just genuinely confused about how classified stuff works but now i realize you are just assholes who wanna trade child safety for political gain which is pretty much what i assumed at the start

>>81829010 (OP)
Liberals are evil and enact bad policies and if it takes an decadent man who is occasionally evil himself to beat the leftists then that sucks but that's how it goes. Voting the lesser of two evils has been the norm for decades.
I can't think of a more evil act than allowing leftism to exist in a good first world country. That would turn it third world and more people stand to suffer from that than Pleasure Island or Neverland Ranch or wtfever.

>>81831628
Exactly. 2 more weeks. In Mossad we trust.