Thread 81865489

What the actual fuck is the point of therapy when you can't actually truly speak your mind about wanting to kill yourself without extremely high risk of getting forcefully admitted? Therapists say shit like "nothing you say leaves this room unless you feel like you're going hurt yourself or others" like it's so damn permissive and free and open. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I BE IN THERAPY IF I DIDN'T WANT TO KILL MYSELF?

>>81865489 (OP)
You kind of answered your own question, retard.

The implicit understanding behind therapy is that you're here because, to some greater or lesser degree, you probably want to kill or in the very least harm yourself.

So you don't need to speak it. Suicidal ideation and thoughts are also contagious. It's a contagious mind disease. Ergo, we take prevention measures.

And believe it or not nobody owes you therapy or justice or love or healing. There's millions of people out there in the planet living less fortunate lives than you are. There are millions of people who don't get even the privelige of saying "I am sad".

Quit being a little bitch already. Grow some balls. It's the only based way out of this mess left.

>>81865518
>Quit being a little bitch already. Grow some balls. It's the only based way out of this mess left.
Agreed.
I would also consider fire as the method, it occurred to me that it is so horrible that you will welcome death with open arms. Isn't that a good way to go out? Methods that are instant just mean that you don't actually want to experience death.

>>81865489 (OP)
Therapy doesn't work for suicidey meltdowns, sorry. Try locking yourself in your room for 10 years until you feel better.

I don't think there is much of a point. Going to church will end up helping more than therapy.

>>81865489 (OP)
Idk where you live but here nobody is gonna forcefully hospitalize you for saying you wanna kill yourself. At best they call a family member if you explicitly state you already have a set plan and date

>>81865489 (OP)
You can talk about how you want to kill yourself if you want. I talk about it with my therapist. Just don't tell them something like "I'm literally going to fucking kill myself as soon as I leave here". And you'll be good.

>>81865518
This whole talk of owing or not owing is retarded, you sound like a woman.

>>81865654
In the United States, which is where most of this site lives, you'll be forcefully hospitalized for less.

>>81865799
Have you even tried talking to anyone? I'm in the US too and I've told multiple therapists, a school counselor, and a psych nurse that I wanted to kill myself and nothing happened.

>>81865489 (OP)
Therapy isn't for people who actually suffer, it's for bisexual white women who have trauma from going to church as a child. That's why therapists will institutionalize if you tell them anything truly severe and crippling

>>81865849
I wouldn't be claiming this if it weren't my own lived experience. When I was 20, I booked a meeting with a psychiatrist on my own accord and was dragged out into the back of an unmarked van, and taken to a decrepit shithole facility where I was stripped and admitted. I had to break out that night. Nearly the same thing happened when I was ~11 and broke down crying at a childrens crisis facility (bad family), I was taken away in the back of a filthy sedan to a different facility, which was nicer, but again, I weaseled my way out. Its happened to me twice. Our experiences differ.

>81865518
>reddit spacing
>"nobody owes you [thing they are paid or obligated to provide]"
>relative privation
>caring about browns in AIDSfrica
New material please and thank you.

>>81866037
Are you male or female? Maybe that makes a difference.

>>81866037
>The government can legally kidnap and humiliate you if you say the wrong thing in a situation where you're supposed to allow yourself to be unfiltered
How people still fall for the therapy meme is beyond me

>>81865489 (OP)
General suicide ideation won't get you involuntarily committed. It's okay to tell your therapist you have suicidal thoughts. If you tell them you have a concrete, actionable plan (i.e. I am going to kill myself in 3 days by hanging and I've already tied the noose) then they have to have you committed.

>>81866089
I am a male. I wouldn't be surprised if they feel they can more easily pull this insurance scam bullshit on men and boys because we're not going to speak up.

>>81865489 (OP)
You can talk about suicide in therapy all you want. You can't say "I'm going to go home and kill myself" in a therapy session

>>81866143
>>81866154
Why do you insist on saying this? Even if a bad outcome were uncommon, your statement is demonstrably untrue and could potentially be dangerous.

>>81866037
Why are you lying on the Internet for free? This is so fucking dumb

>>81866175
I talked about it with my ex therapist. I also told her she can't tell me suicide is bad since she don't know what comes after death. Nobody dragged me out to a fucking unmarked van

>>81866182
I still have the armband and socks. Why are you so adamant that the system is perfect and corruption doesn't exist?

>>81866200
I'm glad your experience was positive. Not everyones is. You shouldn't be making misleading blanket statements to the most vulnerable people.

>>81866232
>to the most vulnerable people
I'm not a fucking vulnerable person?

>>81866289
I never claimed you were. The people on this board who may find themselves in a thread about therapy, curious about whether its worth it or not, obviously have some sort of issue they'd like to work out. That acknowledgment of distress and the desire for healing is routinely exploited by heartless corporations.

>>81865489 (OP)
Therapy is pointless save your money