Sometimes i like being dominant but Im not into submissive guys who act overly feminized. What I want is a normal, masculine boyfriend in public but soft, loyal and obedient at home (like a puppy). Not that pegging or latex shit. I hate reddit for turning sub men into faggots

The problem is clearly your concept of d/s, not reddit. You wrongly believe all subs are feminization faggots.

>>81880608 (OP)
>Femdom is chad-only too
Yea we know

I just need a gf who is mostly selfish in bed and wants a bf who will be loyal to her and serve her needs. I figured trying to be in shape, lean and well groomed is the best way to achieve this. Where does reddit and feminisation come into this?

>>81880608 (OP)
im not particularly masculine but i dont look like a sissy femboy twink either so i appeal to no one

>>81880608 (OP)
If a man is soft and obedient at home like a puppy, they are a faggot. You can't have hot extroverted Chad who is also going to be a total sub to you but only in the specific ways you like it.

Honestly I just want a girl who'll do this to me.

>>81880608 (OP)
men want to sit back and relax after work, dealing with a woman nagging about nonsense is that last thing anyone wants

>>81880707
I never said anything about him being a Chad or a total sub. I just think its weird how some submissive men tend to equate being submissive with being feminine. An actual straight woman isnt going to like a femboy just because she enjoys being dominant sometimes. Why cant sub men just be regular, masculine guys in real life and submissive in private?

>>81880608 (OP)
This is such simple logic op. If you don't want a submissive man then you're not a dominant woman. If you want a switch then you're also a switch. You're an untrainable subhuman either way and of no value to the human race

>>81880608 (OP)
you want a stuffed animal
please don't date anyone

>>81880780
I like sub men. Just cant stand faggots

>>81880753
I think most guys will recognize a big discrepancy there and question whether you're asking for two genuine personalities in one body, or just a guy that can keep up public appearances. There a lot of such submissive guys that act normally in public, but it's a mask they put on, albeit it becomes habitual.

>>81880840
A man who is submissive to you is the precise faggot behavior that you dislike sir

>>81880608 (OP)
>im dominant but want that type of submassive guy
>im submassive but want that type of dom
I swear, fwmdoms have the same shit mentality as malesubs. Theres no sub magicly tailored to your persona. If youre truly a dom than you teach, train and coerce, just dont get a partner that acts faggy in open, because its probably a lost cause in the first place.
Subs dream about different types of doms but in reality its their job to make their master happy, if youre good, than they will follow your orders and still be fullfilled. If you cant achive it with your partner than youre a shit dom, because its your part to show sub the ropes how to make you happy and its doms work to enforce it in your relationship.

>>81880840
Your desire is pretty reasonable, people on here are just insecure. Plenty of men are comfortable being normal dudes and want a gf they can serve.

>>81880608 (OP)
>i like being dominant!!!
>means being a picky, nagging, whining cunt who people obey without question
this is exactly why we have gender roles to begin with

>>81880904
Serving people is faggot trait

>>81880608 (OP)
Can't I just be mostly dominant but also want cuddles and to feel loved?

>>81880904
>plenty of faggots like acting like a faggot
yeah, and guess what, most of them are faggots and exhibit feminine behaviours

>>81880904
Thank you for understanding the point. Being submissive doesnt inherently make you feminine. Its not that hard to wear masculine clothes and you know act like a regular guy in public.

>>81880946
That shit only exist in your porn books

>>81880946
I don't think that this is a very common issue though. I think that people on the internet are mostly getting attention from me so stuff with femboys is popular because lots of gay dudes like it. There aren't exactly a ton of women looking at this stuff.

>>81880642
>any masculine dude is chad.
You're perception is warped and you tie your masculinity to what women think of you which is more gay then sucking cock. I'm a gym cell that gets complimented on how big I am by old dudes, women cross the street when they see me. Masculinity has nothing to do with how many bitches you get.

>>81880608 (OP)
A woman with this pic in her profile ghosted me on hinge lmao. Must have found a better guy.

>>81880608 (OP)
same here but i like kind of feminine guys just not total femboys

>>81880959
>porn books
Oh no, anon actually bought into that meme about women being too pure for porn so they just read erotica

>>81880971
When women say "masculine" they mean chad.
Because masculinity isnt real, its retarded nonsense.
If you have a dick youre a man, thats it

>>81880983
No i didnt.
They do both.
Also, porn books are just as bad as porn videos

>>81880992
no they are nottt please
like how can you think that

>>81881005
Both make women fantasize about imaginary chad, thus raises theyre standards even more

>>81880608 (OP)
what if you physically abuse me tho

>>81880608 (OP)
Based. I also hate weak sissy wimpy faggots but also love gentle femdom, facesitting, etcetera.

>>81881044
I like choking and slapping in private moments, but Id never do that to a guy in public. I wouldnt want my boyfriend to come off as weak or emasculated.

>>81880608 (OP)
I want a gf to call mommy and pin me by the wrists and spit in my mouth and use me to get herself off. At other times I rape her out of obsession and she makes fun of me in the midst of it.
I think what it boils down to is "cute" from guys implies feminine while "cute" from girls implies an adoration aspect. Girls can adore guys even though the guy is superior to them

>>81880991
>Because masculinity isnt real, its retarded nonsense.
Yea this is why your a loser.

>>81880991
>Because masculinity isnt real, its retarded nonsense.
Women are attracted to masculinity. Masculinity is essentially strength, while femininity is cuteness and sweetness, although women also love sweetness from a man.

>>81880991
being masculine when you arent naturally in 2025 just means putting on a performative ridiculous show and just looking like another tatebro. im a manlet so its not worth trying ive accepted that ill be a virgin forever anyway

>>81880608 (OP)
You want to invert the natural order of things, which is for the man to be the leader and the woman the subordinate, but you do not want to assume the burden of leadership. You want your man to assume all the public responsibilities, which is incompatible with his position of subservience, as the public actions are just the outward projections of the domestic dynamic.

Imagine a clingy possesive girl who makes you wear a chastty cage whenever you're not with her, or you're with her but outside and may see some enticing women (she wears the key on her neck), then she takes the cage off when you're toghether at home and you spend hours cuddling and kissing and have passionate romantic babymaking sex and she tells you when and where to cum and you're her happy obedient drone
this is basically my biggest strongest hottest fantasy

>>81880608 (OP)
Seems like every woman just wants a man that's a massive contradiction. I don't think this is very realistic. He's going to have to be faking it. Either when he goes out or when he's at home.

>>81880904
>reasonable
Wanting someone that has to fake aspects of themselves is going to lead to disaster.

>>81881005
Because it makes you want insane garbage like what you wrote in your post.

>>81881421
Super hot. I would love a girlfriend like this. Would this be something a BPD girl wants to do? What other types of girls would like to do such a thing?

If you want a switch, honesty matters more than testing.
Asking "do you like X?" won't get you far. Saying "I'm into X and I want it with you" does.
Most subs won't admit it up front,especially if they feel baited.
Two people testing each other usually miss what they both want.

>This is the exact kind of relationship I want/have had before
>I can never actually call myself submissive because i'll be labeled in with the "mommy" freaks

>>81881648
In anime it's called yandere or menhera. In reality, maybe a control freak?
Sadly most bpdemons are submissive because of their low self-worth and idealization...

>>81880971
>chadcel cope

>>81880608 (OP)
So you want a man who is masculine as a protector and provider but attentive to your needs as a husband or boyfriend? Wow, so fucking original. You're unique because you're a lioness that wants a lion and not some tofu eating hippie lion (futurama reference)

>>81880608 (OP)
Then tough luck because I prefer submissive women.

>>81880608 (OP)
>Not that pegging
DROPPED

>>81881435
>massive contradition
I dont understand why this is such a big contradition. Im feminine but still dominant

>>81880608 (OP)
here's hoping i find a girl just like that, but who'll also switch with me as i play both roles
and here's hoping you find a guy just like what you want, i'm sure these exist and are not so rare

>>81880608 (OP)
>normal, masculine boyfriend in public but soft, loyal and obedient at home
That doesn't make you dominant you dumb bitch. That makes you a controlling hoe like every other woman.
>I'm not like the other women
Goes to show women don't know how to be dominant.

>>81880608 (OP)
>normal, masculine boyfriend in public but soft, loyal and obedient at home
get a personality disorder bf

>>81880907
Women act as if being nagging and controlling while having an obedient, servile drone makes them dominant. As if literally every hetero relationship isn't structured that way. For men, being dominant means taking the lead and being a leader. For women, they interpret as sitting back and being served. If you're a dominant woman, then you get served. if you're a submissive woman, then you get served. What the hell is the point then in trying to create a discrepancy? They co-opt femdom into being the same shit they all want and already have.

>>81883373
>Actually femdom does mean giving blowjobs to sissy weak men.
Thats not being dominant, you are just too porn brained. No straight girl is going to want to date a feminine man even if shes dominant.

>>81883397
Femdom means you stomp on me and crush me because the idea arouses me and if you're truly dominant, it would for you too. Stuff like that. I feel powerful enough as it is so being dominated by someone can feel freeing sometimes. Like you can just let go. Especially when you hate women and yet crave to be smothered by one. Hate fucking and angry sex is just the best because of how emotionally charged it is.

Women don't get it though. They think it's an opportunity to be selfish and get a man to serve them in a boring nonsexual way.

I want to feel a woman's power in a erotic way. That's why it's referred to as a fetish or kink, because it's supposed to be sexually charged. Woman see it in a boring and lame way.
>Ooo I get to have a man I can boss around in a totally self-serving way, Yay! Okay, now do the dishes honey and maybe I'll think about sex with you
Yeah no I'm not a beta cuck, I'm masculine and have a backbone.

>>81882819
>So you want a man who is masculine as a protector and provider but attentive to your needs as a husband or boyfriend? Wow, so fucking original.
Lmao right. They just want to sit back and make the man do everything. That's not how leaders operate.

>>81880608 (OP)
>I'm a woman and I want this and that and such and so.
Why would a man care what a woman wants? She has nothing to offer you in return.

>>81883460
>>81883478
>Oh yeah being a dominant woman totally means you have to be submissive and do all the weird kinks I want in bed.
Lol you guys are delusional.

>>81880608 (OP)
U think u wAnt this till it happens and your genetics kick in. During peak ovulation your puppy BF will disgust you like any sub faggot that commits to the relationship and you will crave abuse Chad cock, mistreat your BF and blame him for it
Men that give an inch or submit a centimeter get thrown away like used napkin because they reveal that they are unworthy

>>81880608 (OP)
>I want le submissive guy
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
Meme gender. You are a contradiction that seeks contradictions. The "normal, masculine boyfriend" you want is just not going to be the obedient little dog you apparently also want. Like another anon said these fantastical type only exists in your trash-tier "Blackbeard the maniacal rapist pirate with a soft side" erotic fiction.

>>81883478
She's describing a regular relationship, she's under the impression that somehow being a "dominant woman" makes her less of a woman and less in want of what every other woman wants. She's not a girly girl but she's still a girl that wants a man to be a protector, provider, a masculine man, but attentive to her needs and "emotionally available"

>>81883579
KEK females are a meme
Gay men actually know what they want, if they want a sub they are looking for twinks not a hairy 300 lbs dude. Foids on the other hand..

>>81883579
You guys jerk off all day to feminine dom women in dresses or anime school uniforms but Im the hypocrite for liking a normal masculine guy? Lol okay

>>81883557
>you have to be submissive and do all the weird kinks I want in bed
Hahaha kek. You're a poser. You aren't worthy of being called a dominant and wielding any power. If you can't step on me and put me in my place, why should I submit to you, femfail.

>>81883607
The only type of woman who would want a relationship with a weak feminine submissive guy who doesnt even care about a womans pleasure is a prostitute. I hope you are happy paying for sex for the rest of your life.

>>81883603
Yes, you are a hypocrite, and you clearly don't like "normal masculine guys" if you only want them to project that appearance in the outside world while being a little bitch for you at home that you can nag into a lifeless husk.

>>81883633
>I hope you are happy paying for sex for the rest of your life
Why wouldn't I be happy with marriage?

>>81880753
The reason is because regular, masculine guys don't want to be submissive in private. The only "men" who want to be submissive ever are weird dorky perverts whose lives are fast food, video games and le hecking star wars. It's like if I asked "why can't I find a woman who obeys my every whim as her husband but also wants to support the household with her 6 figure income?"

>>81883579
One of the funniest things I've read was "Fifty Shades of Gray is an FFM threesome, and the government is an M."
Christian takes 200 pages to get to second base. The entire story revolves around contracts and consent forms.

>The "normal, masculine boyfriend" you want is just not going to be the obedient little dog
The hypermasculine boyfriend they want also has to be a perfect golem

>>81883603
You're a man though

>>81883633
>who doesnt even care about a womans pleasure is a prostitute
That's the point. Just call yourself submissive because that's what you are. If you were a domme, then you WOULD also have pleasure from dominating an attractive moid.

I want to be soft, loyal, and obediant to a girl without calling her mommy or people thinking im a reddit estrogen femboy who wants pegged is that so much to ask?

>>81883672
>The hypermasculine boyfriend they want also has to be a perfect golem
Fucking kek. They just want everything, don't they. To have their cake and eat it too. Dumbass foids. How can they be dominant if they're so fucking dumb.

>>81880608 (OP)
lol you only think you are dominant

>>81883681
>Women call their boyfriend "daddy"
Normalized
>Men call their girlfriend "mommy"
Omg he must be a beta estrogen effeminate soiboy

Having a domme force you to call her mommy is hot. It solidifies the dynamic between the female wielding power over the male. Imagine hating women and thinking women are inferior, and yet you have this foid making you call her mommy. It's such an erotic contradiction. That's what makes it so hot
>I fucking hate you. Now fucking step on me and call me a worm you fucking foid

>>81883676
>I want a girl who gets sexual pleasure from doing my weird kinks that dont even involve pleasuring her sexually
Only in your anime hentai porn. That wouldnt even be a dominant girl.

>>81883742
You don't understand how BDSM works at all, do you. The entire point is the woman gets off on it regardless.

>>81883742
>I speak for all women
Sounds a bit narcissistic, doesn't it?

>that dont even involve pleasuring her sexually
How does getting stepped on, spat on, and insulted please me sexually? It doesn't have to be physical stimulation to be sexually pleasurable. I can see the sexual pleasure in choking a foid out and slapping her. If women can't get that then they are just as lame as I thought.

>>81880608 (OP)
I'm a sub man and I am not feminized at all. I mow the lawn, change the tires of my car and I reject all sissy and feminization shit. We exist, we're just rare.

>>81883775
Yeah because obviously a straight woman will totally get off regardless like when shes giving a blowjob (which isnt submissive at all right?) to some weak feminine guy. Totally checks out for a straight dominant woman.

>>81880608 (OP)
I DON'T WANT TO BE YOUR DOG! The whole reason I'm even into pegging and latex shit is because the feminists convinced me that dominant women wanted it. I want to be useful. I don't want to be less than human. I don't want to be lazy. I just want to be told what to do and then to do it. I want to be guided. That doesn't mean I want to be less of a person than you. That doesn't even mean I want to be degraded and dehumanized. I want to become better for my relationships, not worse.

Is this the next nee femdom thing now? First the pegging, then the chastity cage, then the cucking, now the dogpill? I'm done. Do you understand? Foul woman? There's only so far you can go before I just stop trying to have sex and relationships altogether and go become a cringe white monkey Buddhist monk. Clearly, my own proclivities have failed me, and I need to hypnotize myself into being able to perform a role more than just a service top and force myself to be dominant. Women think too bad of men and the role of the dominant person in a relationship and too little of themselves and submissive roles. They only got their rights less than 100 years ago and are just as if not more poisoned by our patriarchy than actual fucking abusive men.

>>81883825
Thanks for confirming you really have no idea how BDSM works.

>>81883837
If you actually think women are into pegging because of the internet you might as well stay out of the dating scene since youre so gullible youd probably only end up in abusive relationships.

>>81883837
most autistic post ive ever read in my life and i post on 4chan

>>81880608 (OP)
Literally me, but I always run into the issue where I don't know what you want. I've made women scream my name and beg me to pump them full of babies, but as soon as I show weakness, emotion or vulnerability... it's over. I think you just want 2 guys cause you can't see both in us.

>>81880608 (OP)
wow that's literally me
where do you live

>>81883877
I've found a surprising number of women are into pegging, but maybe it's because I have a nice butt.

>>81884123
Youre either lying or way too influenced by trannies people on social media. Its a joke, no dominant girl is actually into that.

>>81883877
I was 15 years old when I discovered pegging. This was 10 years ago. I was a socially inept kid and couldn't get female attention. I read online that dominant women liked it because the feminist shit working on degrading men in academia and social media was in full swing.

Not that all that much has changed. Now, I'm a socially inept adult who is dissillusioned and bitter about getting female attention. I wouldn't go so far as say I'm still as gullible.
>>81883915
>autistic
How so? Did I say something you didn't like, tourist? Don't you have a real life existance you should get back to?

>>81884161
>Don't you have a real life existance you should get back to?
no

>>81880608 (OP)
I'm masculine but if your idea of being dominant is just being a passive princess then I'm not interested.

>>81884143
I don't use social media besides 4chan and honestly I've considered using it less because people post too much twitter sutff here.
But I've literally been pegged by multiple women.

I think femdom get dragged down by all the low quality subs. Too many guys use it to indulge their insecurities and make it entirely about themselves. That completely defeats the purpose of serving and pleasing your partner, which is central to femdom as I understand it. I feel the best femdom relationship could be very subtle

>>81881218
>>81881221
Youre either redpill-niggers or trannies if you think being a man is anything more than having a dick

>>81884659
And you are retarded and probably gay for thinking being masculine is not a thing

>>81881221
>femininity is sweetness
Then there's not even one feminine woman in the world
Women are sweet they are evil kikes and belong in a gas chamber

>>81880608 (OP)
Being insufferable isn't being "dominant"

>>81884673
*women areN'T sweet

Spelling mistake

>>81884682
Being "submissive" is not being a faggot

>>81884670
Being masculine = having a penis

Dilate tranny

>>81880608 (OP)
You can't have it both ways, if you want a masculine man he's always act masculine and dominant, you females have no clue of what you actually want and are used to get everything you want.

>>81884703

Nah, plenty of ways to be chad without be a chud. It takes subtlety and tact

>>81884482
Honestly a lot of guys online aren't actually submissive, they're just insecure and/or lazy lol.

I'm so tired of this faggot fucking femdom shit men need to start beating the bejeezus out of women again

>>81885280
But i want women to spank me instead, ive been a bad boy and need to be punished. Sadly those bitches only punish me by rejecting me

I'm so not tired of this faggot fucking femdom shit women need to start beating the bejeezus out of men for the first time

>>81885166
You lack reading comprehension, go back to 1st grade.

>>81883557
Being a dominant woman means **you** are the head of the household, which means **you** are the public face, **you** are the one who solves the problems, and **you** are the one who takes the blame when things go south. Authority comes from commitment.

>>81885600
Lol and the guy just does nothing? Why would any dom girl even want a relationship like that? She does everything for the guy (which is a submissive act) while he just relaxes all day and she doesnt even get any sexual pleasure out of it. You guys arent submissive, you are just lazy

>>81885630
>Why would any dom girl even want a relationship like that?
same could be asked for you? why would a submissive guy want a relationship where he only gives and you only take?

>>81885676
>he only gives and you only take?
What makes you think that? Hed be a regular guy in public and could be soft and puppy like at home. I dont think Im asking for much and Im sure some guys would actually like that kind of dynamic.

>>81885676
most male subs do want to top from the bottom

>>81880608 (OP)
>Not that pegging
dropped

>your comment was not original
lmao

>>81885704
you are underage
>>81885707
the only selfless guy was put on a cross

>>81885704
>Hed be a regular guy in public and could be soft and puppy like at home.
so what you'd make him learn a bunch of tricks and keep him in the kennel?

i'm a good looking masculine man who wants a female led relationship, that doesn't involve the woman trying to humiliate, cuckold, sissify, peg, or solicit money from me.

does this kind of woman exist? it seems all the dominant ones just hate or degrade men

Real femdom is realizing women want a strong, assertive partner. Being that strong figure for her oddly satisfies my sub desires

>>81886815
Yeah i agree with you

>>81880608 (OP)
I'm a subby guy but all you need to do is find a guy who likes to stand more shoulder to shoulder, if you're a tomboy this will help, as guys that like tomboys kinda like women like that, at least I think anyway.

>>81880707
This is just the girl version of "lady in the streets, freak in the sheets". She (generously, assuming OP is real) wants chad in the streets and puppy in the sheets. Very normal to want different public and sexual personas.